Mm

Michael

05/08/2015 1:08 PM

Multi-joint

http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv

Pretty nifty.


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Gs

"Gramps' shop"

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

08/08/2015 4:14 PM

That is beautiful. I would love to see a step by step on how that is cut.

On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 11:28:54 AM UTC-5, Larry Kraus wrote:
> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
> > http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
> >
> > Pretty nifty.
> >
>
>
> How is it cut?
>
> All I can find is https://instagram.com/p/tQwU-_xEZa/
>
> Claims cut with saw and plane, shows how the cuts are marked out.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

05/08/2015 9:41 PM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>
>> Pretty nifty.
>>
> yes, pretty cool.
> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
> way :-(
>

Why would you glue a joint like that?

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

LK

Larry Kraus

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

08/08/2015 12:28 PM

On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>
> Pretty nifty.
>


How is it cut?

All I can find is https://instagram.com/p/tQwU-_xEZa/

Claims cut with saw and plane, shows how the cuts are marked out.

kk

krw

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

07/08/2015 7:59 PM

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:09:10 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 8/7/2015 9:02 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/5/2015 7:26 PM, krw wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:37:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>>>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>>>>> way :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.
>>>
>>> If the glue is stronger than the wood, more surface area doesn't help.
>>> I wouldn't think it would take anything near that much surface area
>>> for the above to be true.
>>>
>>
>> Certainly it helps, it keeps the joint from sliding apart. Jeez!
>>
>>
>>
>And just to add to that. The less glue on the surface, the more the
>area that does have glue has to support the rest of the joint.
>Read that as a small portion of the wood surface at the glue can break
>and the joint becomes loose. More glue surface and you have more more
>wood working at the joint.
>
>Which brings up the question, if you are gluing a panel edge to another
>panel face do you use a drop of glue or the entire mating surface?

I see your point but you've hogged out half of the wood, too. The
"neck" (for lack of a better word) may not be as strong as another
type of joint.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

07/08/2015 9:09 AM

On 8/7/2015 9:02 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/5/2015 7:26 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:37:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>>>
>>>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>>>> way :-(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>>>
>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>
>>>
>>> With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.
>>
>> If the glue is stronger than the wood, more surface area doesn't help.
>> I wouldn't think it would take anything near that much surface area
>> for the above to be true.
>>
>
> Certainly it helps, it keeps the joint from sliding apart. Jeez!
>
>
>
And just to add to that. The less glue on the surface, the more the
area that does have glue has to support the rest of the joint.
Read that as a small portion of the wood surface at the glue can break
and the joint becomes loose. More glue surface and you have more more
wood working at the joint.

Which brings up the question, if you are gluing a panel edge to another
panel face do you use a drop of glue or the entire mating surface?

Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

05/08/2015 5:37 PM

On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>
>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>
>> yes, pretty cool.
>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>> way :-(
>>
>
> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>
> Puckdropper
>

With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

05/08/2015 4:43 PM

On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>
> Pretty nifty.
>
yes, pretty cool.
But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong way :-(

--
Jeff

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

05/08/2015 6:09 PM

It would be nice to have a cut sequence.
Is it computer cut only or how the joints are made.

Martin

On 8/5/2015 5:37 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>
>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>
>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>> way :-(
>>>
>>
>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>
>> Puckdropper
>>
>
> With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

07/08/2015 9:02 AM

On 8/5/2015 7:26 PM, krw wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:37:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>>
>>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>>> way :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>
>> With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.
>
> If the glue is stronger than the wood, more surface area doesn't help.
> I wouldn't think it would take anything near that much surface area
> for the above to be true.
>

Certainly it helps, it keeps the joint from sliding apart. Jeez!


EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

08/08/2015 4:37 PM

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:08:21 -0700 (PDT)
Michael <[email protected]> wrote:

> Pretty nifty.

it is a beautiful joint
done by a japanese artisan

if you have the chance check out a show called artisan x designer
pronounced artisan times designer

they share a significant amount of detail about their craft







Ll

Leon

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

07/08/2015 7:41 PM

On 8/7/2015 6:59 PM, krw wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:09:10 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2015 9:02 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/5/2015 7:26 PM, krw wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:37:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>>>>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>>>>>> way :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.
>>>>
>>>> If the glue is stronger than the wood, more surface area doesn't help.
>>>> I wouldn't think it would take anything near that much surface area
>>>> for the above to be true.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Certainly it helps, it keeps the joint from sliding apart. Jeez!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> And just to add to that. The less glue on the surface, the more the
>> area that does have glue has to support the rest of the joint.
>> Read that as a small portion of the wood surface at the glue can break
>> and the joint becomes loose. More glue surface and you have more more
>> wood working at the joint.
>>
>> Which brings up the question, if you are gluing a panel edge to another
>> panel face do you use a drop of glue or the entire mating surface?
>
> I see your point but you've hogged out half of the wood, too. The
> "neck" (for lack of a better word) may not be as strong as another
> type of joint.
>


That is entirely possible but the beauty to the joint is that it can be
cut the same way and used in multiple directions/orientations.
Probably totally way too much trouble but interesting.

kk

krw

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

07/08/2015 10:26 PM

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:41:21 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 8/7/2015 6:59 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:09:10 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/7/2015 9:02 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 8/5/2015 7:26 PM, krw wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:37:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>>>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>>>>>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>>>>>>> way :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the glue is stronger than the wood, more surface area doesn't help.
>>>>> I wouldn't think it would take anything near that much surface area
>>>>> for the above to be true.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Certainly it helps, it keeps the joint from sliding apart. Jeez!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And just to add to that. The less glue on the surface, the more the
>>> area that does have glue has to support the rest of the joint.
>>> Read that as a small portion of the wood surface at the glue can break
>>> and the joint becomes loose. More glue surface and you have more more
>>> wood working at the joint.
>>>
>>> Which brings up the question, if you are gluing a panel edge to another
>>> panel face do you use a drop of glue or the entire mating surface?
>>
>> I see your point but you've hogged out half of the wood, too. The
>> "neck" (for lack of a better word) may not be as strong as another
>> type of joint.
>>
>
>
>That is entirely possible but the beauty to the joint is that it can be
>cut the same way and used in multiple directions/orientations.

Not after the glue dries! ;-)

>Probably totally way too much trouble but interesting.

Sure. I'd like to see what it took to make.

kk

krw

in reply to Michael on 05/08/2015 1:08 PM

05/08/2015 8:26 PM

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:37:23 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 8/5/2015 4:41 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 8/5/2015 4:08 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/Lcn5sUV.gifv
>>>>
>>>> Pretty nifty.
>>>>
>>> yes, pretty cool.
>>> But it would be easy to screw up your assembly and glue it the wrong
>>> way :-(
>>>
>>
>> Why would you glue a joint like that?
>>
>> Puckdropper
>>
>
>With all those glue surfaces it should be extremely strong.

If the glue is stronger than the wood, more surface area doesn't help.
I wouldn't think it would take anything near that much surface area
for the above to be true.


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