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"Mike Bruno"

30/09/2004 2:54 AM

Adjusting Plunge Router in a table

I didn't get any replys to my previous post, so I thought I would ask things
a little differently.

My new Freud router has an adjustment knob that smoothly adjusts the height
when it is resting on a table (hand held position). When I hang it upside
down in my router table, the same adjustment seems to cock the motor on the
two guide shafts and it binds. Talking to Freud, they say additional torque
on the knob is to be expected, but the pressure that I feel seems so extreme
that I am afraid I will damage the guide bushings. I can see the motor cock
on the base.

I have previously used only fixed routers in tables so I have no experience
with this. Should I experience easier adjustments with a table mounted
plunge router? Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Mike Bruno
Please remove MY SHOES if replying by e-mail
[email protected]


This topic has 12 replies

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 12:18 AM

Leon said:

>
><Greg G.> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Mike Bruno said:
>> Remove or flip the springs.
>
>
>
>:~) Or flip the springs???? Will that make them want to work backwards?
>;~)

Very funny. I KNEW that was going to draw fire.
Didn't want to write a 100 word dissertation on a simple concept.
What I mean't was:
Move the springs to a position which presses in the opposite direction
from that which they do at present. I don't own the router in
question, but this is possible with some routers.

Never mind - just pull the springs. :-p

FWIW,

Greg G.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 4:48 AM


<Greg G.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am told certain plunge Dewalts, and I have an old B&D plunge that
> was "flipped" - before it was relegated to the "obsolete junk tools"
> pile under the bench. I haven't tried it, 'cause I have no need, but
> from the disassembly of my PC890 plunge base, I believe it will allow
> this as well. I'll go check on this if you're really concerned.
>
> Remove the C-Clip from the post, remove the spring, replace the clip
> with the spring on top, replace the post caps. It now presses down.
> (Or up when in a router table.)


No need, Thanks. If it will really work that way, I can see now how that
would work.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 4:01 AM


<Greg G.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mike Bruno said:
> Remove or flip the springs.



:~) Or flip the springs???? Will that make them want to work backwards?
;~)

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 4:30 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <Greg G.> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Move the springs to a position which presses in the opposite direction
>> from that which they do at present. I don't own the router in
>> question, but this is possible with some routers.


Seriously though, which router is this possible to do that procedure on?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 3:44 AM


"Mike Bruno" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I didn't get any replys to my previous post, so I thought I would ask
>things
> a little differently.
>
> My new Freud router has an adjustment knob that smoothly adjusts the
> height
> when it is resting on a table (hand held position). When I hang it upside
> down in my router table, the same adjustment seems to cock the motor on
> the
> two guide shafts and it binds. Talking to Freud, they say additional
> torque
> on the knob is to be expected, but the pressure that I feel seems so
> extreme
> that I am afraid I will damage the guide bushings. I can see the motor
> cock
> on the base.
>
> I have previously used only fixed routers in tables so I have no
> experience
> with this. Should I experience easier adjustments with a table mounted
> plunge router? Any suggestions?


Did you disable or remove the plunge springs? The springs are designed to
counter act the weight of the router when right side up. Upside down the
effect of the springs double the weight of the router during an upside down
plunge adjustment.

kk

"ks"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

01/10/2004 1:20 AM

You should be ok with the warranty, as this is a standard mod for table
mounted routers, ie: can be easily reverted back.
I believe Freud routers have rubber boots covering the shafts. If the
bushing is metal, it wouldn't hurt to wipe the shafts with a bit of grease.

"Mike Bruno" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks. It was actually my plan to remove the springs (or at least the
one
> opposite the adjuster). Since it will always be table mounted, I guess I
> will remove both and be done. I was just a little leary dismembering a
> brand new router and what it might do to the warranty.
>
> Thanks to all that responded.
> Mike
>
> "ks" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a2L6d.3223$3j5.374@clgrps13...
> > Are the springs still mounted on the shafts? If they are, remove them.
> >
> >
> > "Mike Bruno" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I didn't get any replys to my previous post, so I thought I would ask
> > things
> > > a little differently.
> > >
> > > My new Freud router has an adjustment knob that smoothly adjusts the
> > height
> > > when it is resting on a table (hand held position). When I hang it
> upside
> > > down in my router table, the same adjustment seems to cock the motor
on
> > the
> > > two guide shafts and it binds. Talking to Freud, they say additional
> > torque
> > > on the knob is to be expected, but the pressure that I feel seems so
> > extreme
> > > that I am afraid I will damage the guide bushings. I can see the
motor
> > cock
> > > on the base.
> > >
> > > I have previously used only fixed routers in tables so I have no
> > experience
> > > with this. Should I experience easier adjustments with a table
mounted
> > > plunge router? Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Mike Bruno
> > > Please remove MY SHOES if replying by e-mail
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

kk

"ks"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 3:27 AM

Are the springs still mounted on the shafts? If they are, remove them.


"Mike Bruno" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I didn't get any replys to my previous post, so I thought I would ask
things
> a little differently.
>
> My new Freud router has an adjustment knob that smoothly adjusts the
height
> when it is resting on a table (hand held position). When I hang it upside
> down in my router table, the same adjustment seems to cock the motor on
the
> two guide shafts and it binds. Talking to Freud, they say additional
torque
> on the knob is to be expected, but the pressure that I feel seems so
extreme
> that I am afraid I will damage the guide bushings. I can see the motor
cock
> on the base.
>
> I have previously used only fixed routers in tables so I have no
experience
> with this. Should I experience easier adjustments with a table mounted
> plunge router? Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike Bruno
> Please remove MY SHOES if replying by e-mail
> [email protected]
>
>

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 1:03 AM

Leon said:

>
><Greg G.> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I am told certain plunge Dewalts, and I have an old B&D plunge that
>> was "flipped" - before it was relegated to the "obsolete junk tools"
>> pile under the bench. I haven't tried it, 'cause I have no need, but
>> from the disassembly of my PC890 plunge base, I believe it will allow
>> this as well. I'll go check on this if you're really concerned.
>>
>> Remove the C-Clip from the post, remove the spring, replace the clip
>> with the spring on top, replace the post caps. It now presses down.
>> (Or up when in a router table.)
>
>
>No need, Thanks. If it will really work that way, I can see now how that
>would work.

FYI - I went and checked on the PC 890 plunge base - It does not work
that way. Seems the mod probably only works with some routers that
have springs external to the post - not internal. It does on the old
B&D, however.


Greg G.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 12:46 AM

Leon said:

>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> <Greg G.> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Move the springs to a position which presses in the opposite direction
>>> from that which they do at present. I don't own the router in
>>> question, but this is possible with some routers.
>
>
>Seriously though, which router is this possible to do that procedure on?

I am told certain plunge Dewalts, and I have an old B&D plunge that
was "flipped" - before it was relegated to the "obsolete junk tools"
pile under the bench. I haven't tried it, 'cause I have no need, but
from the disassembly of my PC890 plunge base, I believe it will allow
this as well. I'll go check on this if you're really concerned.

Remove the C-Clip from the post, remove the spring, replace the clip
with the spring on top, replace the post caps. It now presses down.
(Or up when in a router table.)

FWIW,

Greg G.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 4:28 AM


<Greg G.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Move the springs to a position which presses in the opposite direction
> from that which they do at present. I don't own the router in
> question, but this is possible with some routers.

Move the springs to a position which presses in the opposite direction???
Can you explain how to do that??? LOL

>
> Never mind - just pull the springs. :-p

Yeah.. that is probably what is going to work. ;~)

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

29/09/2004 11:54 PM

Mike Bruno said:

>I didn't get any replys to my previous post, so I thought I would ask things
>a little differently.
>
>My new Freud router has an adjustment knob that smoothly adjusts the height
>when it is resting on a table (hand held position). When I hang it upside
>down in my router table, the same adjustment seems to cock the motor on the
>two guide shafts and it binds. Talking to Freud, they say additional torque
>on the knob is to be expected, but the pressure that I feel seems so extreme
>that I am afraid I will damage the guide bushings. I can see the motor cock
>on the base.
>
>I have previously used only fixed routers in tables so I have no experience
>with this. Should I experience easier adjustments with a table mounted
>plunge router? Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Mike Bruno
>Please remove MY SHOES if replying by e-mail
>[email protected]
>

Remove or flip the springs.

FWIW,

Greg G.

MB

"Mike Bruno"

in reply to "Mike Bruno" on 30/09/2004 2:54 AM

30/09/2004 10:29 AM

Thanks. It was actually my plan to remove the springs (or at least the one
opposite the adjuster). Since it will always be table mounted, I guess I
will remove both and be done. I was just a little leary dismembering a
brand new router and what it might do to the warranty.

Thanks to all that responded.
Mike

"ks" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:a2L6d.3223$3j5.374@clgrps13...
> Are the springs still mounted on the shafts? If they are, remove them.
>
>
> "Mike Bruno" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I didn't get any replys to my previous post, so I thought I would ask
> things
> > a little differently.
> >
> > My new Freud router has an adjustment knob that smoothly adjusts the
> height
> > when it is resting on a table (hand held position). When I hang it
upside
> > down in my router table, the same adjustment seems to cock the motor on
> the
> > two guide shafts and it binds. Talking to Freud, they say additional
> torque
> > on the knob is to be expected, but the pressure that I feel seems so
> extreme
> > that I am afraid I will damage the guide bushings. I can see the motor
> cock
> > on the base.
> >
> > I have previously used only fixed routers in tables so I have no
> experience
> > with this. Should I experience easier adjustments with a table mounted
> > plunge router? Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Mike Bruno
> > Please remove MY SHOES if replying by e-mail
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
>
>


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