"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
>
> Rob
2153 is a church candle lighter upper and putter outer
On Jan 28, 9:18=A0am, humunculus <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 12:50=A0am, axolotl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> > > "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as
> > >> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>
> > > Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to m=
ake
> > > impressions in wood.
>
> > > Rob
>
> > My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
> > would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
> > the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
> > identification.
>
> > Kevin Gallimore
>
> I think this is exactly right. Google "stamp hammer" and you'll see
> plenty of examples....they look very much like this.http://www.robarindus=
tries.com/Rolog/PDFsRolog/log_hammers.pdf
Or yet...
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3D5146104
>>
"Bill" wrote:
> How about marking a (cooling) steel ingot. Maybe the "S and I"
> stands for for Steel Ingot? Long shot???? "C and I" would stand
> for Copper Ingot...hence dollars and cents : )
------------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>Ever been on a pouring platform, especially during an actual pour?
---------------------------------------
"Markem" wrote:
> No but I been within a 100 feet of a rolling mill and was not really
> interested in getting any closer.
---------------------------
In another life did some extensive R&D work involving adhesives
that would hold the hot top slabs in place during a pour long enough
to perform their function.
Field testing required being on the pouring platform during a pour,
no more than 10 ft from a stream of molten metal flowing from ladle to
ingot mold.
Clothing req'd included steel toed safety shoes complete with
metatarsal
steel safety flap, fire retardant suit, hard hat and flip down purple
safety
lens to be used when looking at molten metal.
Lost track of how many mills I was in; however, they were located
coast to cost.
Probably the most memorable test was in central Pennsylvania during
winter time.
Got the wake up call at the motel about 3:00AM, telling us the heat
would be ready
to pour within the hour.
Out in that cold night air headed to the mill.
Got to the mill and then had to wait for the heat to come in within
spec.
Being on the pouring platform kept one side of you warm which was
better than nothing.
Most of the mills I visited have been closed and I moved on to other
activities; however,
being on a pouring platform during a pour was an experience I'll never
forget.
Lew
> Hey Rob. Here's a better video of a Tesla coil in action. The guy is
> in a Farraday suit holding two fluorescent tubes in his hands. Tell
> me _that_ guy isn't brave!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G_oXcCzBqk
By far the best use of Tesla Coils are all the people using them to play
actual songs.
Like this one here where they are playing the US national anthem on the
Telsa Coils.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWf84muGRQ
Or this one where they played the Star Wars Imperial March on one of those
TV talent contents
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyYhcZwb7E
On Jan 27, 5:10=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
R
On Jan 29, 8:36=A0am, "Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> >>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
> >>2154. =A0A case for a Tesla coil.
>
>
> > I think this is probably correct. =A0One odd thing about the case, I do=
n't
> > remember seeing a handle on it.
>
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> Have tesla coils ever been manufactured commercially / in volume?
I would tend to doubt it, particularly if your definition of volume
was more than a few dozen.
> Would someone bother to make such a nice case for a one off tesla coil?
I doubt it. But you're making quite a jump from "commercially in
volume" to "one off". For a small unit like that I'd imagine it was
used in scientific demonstrations in school settings, and inventor/
research labs. And maybe guys who were working on the development of
their Ming The Merciless Death Ray. In portable form. ;)
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/projects/DIY_Devices/plasma-gun.htm
Cases like the one pictured were the equivalent of a blow-molded case
today. Now they're considered really good cases and of exceptional
quality, but back then they made them for everything.
Anyway, the Tesla coil was a guess, and I don't see how it could be
verified without actually having a picture of one with the coil inside
it.
R
Wild guesses....
2149 - A device for folding successive folds in a long band of pliable
material.... similar to the way Roman shades (window shades) are
successively folded. The dials - possibly for creating successively
larger (graduated) folds and/or multiple sections of different size
folds.
2152 - A tool for aligning offset or nonaligned holes, so plates can
be bolted together.... i.e., early steel frame construction.
Sonny
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:10:45 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Bill" wrote:
>
>> How about marking a (cooling) steel ingot. Maybe the "S and I"
>> stands for for Steel Ingot? Long shot???? "C and I" would stand
>> for Copper Ingot...hence dollars and cents : )
>------------------------------------
>Ever been on a pouring platform, especially during an actual pour?
No but I been within a 100 feet of a rolling mill and was not really
interested in getting any closer.
Mark
On Jan 28, 5:33=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 2153) Where is the hole in the spike? =A0On the end? (Not clear from
> > the photo). =A0If so, I might think that it would be used in a
> > church for installing candles in candelabras and lighting them
> > with a thin wax taper running through the spike. =A0(I don't see
> > the sliding part to adjust the extension of the taper, however.)
>
> Someone sent me the photo so I don't know exactly where the hole is but w=
as
> told that there is one.
>
> Tough set this week but most of them were answered correctly, still not s=
ure
> about number 2152, the rest of the answers have been posted here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html#answers
Hey Rob. Here's a better video of a Tesla coil in action. The guy is
in a Farraday suit holding two fluorescent tubes in his hands. Tell
me _that_ guy isn't brave!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3G_oXcCzBqk
I also have some strong doubts about the item that you listed as a
cigar holder. Yes, it has strong similarities to the cigar holding
patent link your provided, but there are enough functional differences
that I don't see how it could be one. The one pictured in your quiz
has a widening 'mouthpiece' and no provision for a foot or anything to
keep it from rolling over if put down. The widening mouthpiece is
very problematic for something meant to inhale through - something
with appreciable resistance. The tiny hole in the hollow pointed barb
that pierces the cigar would have very little air flow to start with,
and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
difficult. When people inhale through something with resistance, they
purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. Have the owner of that
holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
R
Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> This is an update on the blue and red electrical device from last week,
> the owner of it cut it open to see what was inside, see below for what
> was found.
>
> Here is the original photo from last week:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145.jpg
>
> Two shots of the device after it was opened:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145na.jpg
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145nn.jpg
>
> The owner's description:
>
> 1. The terminals come into the case through some white insulating kind
> of plastic.
> 2. The exterior case is copper.
> 3. The terminals connect to two steel rods. They appear to be precisely
> ground to size.
> 4. The two steel rods were separated by two pieces of glass (insulators?)
> 5. The two steel rods had blocs of carbon on the outside.
> 6. Two larger pieces of carbon were on the top and bottom of the above.
> 7. The entire assembly was wrapped in ordinary masking tape (no
> insulation there!)
> 8. The space between the assembly wrapped in masking tape and the outer
> copper shell was filled with powered carbon.
>
> I still don't know what it was! If it weren't for the carbon (which is
> conductive) I would think some kind of a capacitor.
> Perhaps I am wrong about the solid carbon and the powdered carbon being
> carbon... but it sure looks like it to me! Sure made a mess in my shop.
>
> -----
>
> Anyone have an answer for it?
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
It might have been some type of vibration sensor or a form of microphone,
John
On Jan 28, 8:39=A0pm, J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/28/11 6:10 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>
> > I also have some strong doubts about the item that you listed as a
> > cigar holder. =A0Yes, it has strong similarities to the cigar holding
> > patent link your provided, but there are enough functional differences
> > that I don't see how it could be one. =A0The one pictured in your quiz
> > has a widening 'mouthpiece' and no provision for a foot or anything to
> > keep it from rolling over if put down. =A0The widening mouthpiece is
> > very problematic for something meant to inhale through - something
> > with appreciable resistance. =A0The tiny hole in the hollow pointed bar=
b
> > that pierces the cigar would have very little air flow to start with,
> > and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
> > ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
> > difficult. =A0When people inhale through something with resistance, the=
y
> > purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. =A0Have the owner of that
> > holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
> > donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
>
> Well, a trumpet has a big mouthpiece, and the player purses his lips
> inside.
What trumpet player inhales through it? The PSI would be a function
between the relative sizes of the two ports. On any of Rob's posts we
could always surmise that a piece is missing to make our guesses
'work'.
R
"Steve W." <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:ihsno1$4pc$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
> If it was carbon I would say some form of resistor. Maybe a large audio
> dummy load or carbon pile load for testing power supplies or RF
> equipment. It would be non inductive and well shielded.
>
Amen, and again! That's a dummy load. But not for long use, with that
case and no cooling apparatus.
LLoyd
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
>
> Rob
>
2152 sure looks like it could be used for splitting logs. Go
back and look at the videos you had links to a few weeks back.
There was a cone shaped spindle that a guy was feeding logs into
that would split the logs as it screwed in. Looked kinda
dangerous if I remember correctly...
Larry
"[email protected]" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:36:07 +0800, "Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
> >>
> >>>2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
> >>
> >>>R
> >>
> >>
> >> I think this is probably correct. One odd thing about the case, I don't
> >> remember seeing a handle on it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rob
> >
> >
> >A couple of questions:
> >
> >Have tesla coils ever been manufactured commercially / in volume?
>
> http://www.scientificsonline.com/50000-volt-tesla-coil-with-experiment-book.html
> http://www.amazing1.com/tesla.htm
>
> >Would someone bother to make such a nice case for a one off tesla coil?
>
> People make nice one-off furniture. ;-)
But you have to chose the people VERY carefully, and examine them
closely for defects if you want nice furniture! ;-)
--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's
Teflon coated.
On Jan 27, 8:15=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as hav=
ing
> > been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>
> Sounds like a good use for it! =A0I agree that it was probably used to ma=
ke
>impressions in wood.
>
> Rob
That sounds reasonable.
Or leather? For hides, maybe the hammer head could be dipped in ink,
to temporarily tattoo a raw hide.
Sonny
On Jan 28, 9:25=A0am, humunculus <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 28, 9:18=A0am, humunculus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 12:50=A0am, axolotl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> > > > "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in messag=
e
> > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > >> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates a=
s
> > > >> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>
> > > > Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to=
make
> > > > impressions in wood.
>
> > > > Rob
>
> > > My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
> > > would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end o=
f
> > > the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
> > > identification.
>
> > > Kevin Gallimore
>
> > I think this is exactly right. Google "stamp hammer" and you'll see
> > plenty of examples....they look very much like this.http://www.robarind=
ustries.com/Rolog/PDFsRolog/log_hammers.pdf
>
> Or yet...http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3D5146104
2152: For some reason, I think of a screw plug for quickly sealing
holes in a metal ship's hull. Maybe something from the war to plug
below-the-waterline bullet holes or something.
2149: Maybe something to keep count of the number of bushels of
something (apples, etc) filled?
2151: A nice handmade lemon squeezer
"George W Frost" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
>
> Rob
2153 is a church candle lighter upper and putter outer
They don't have electric lights? :)
Steve R.
On Jan 28, 12:50=A0am, axolotl <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as
> >> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>
> > Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to mak=
e
> > impressions in wood.
>
> > Rob
>
> My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
> would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
> the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
> identification.
>
> Kevin Gallimore
I think this is exactly right. Google "stamp hammer" and you'll see
plenty of examples....they look very much like this.
http://www.robarindustries.com/Rolog/PDFsRolog/log_hammers.pdf
"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as having
> been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to make
impressions in wood.
Rob
> On 1/27/2011 5:10 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
Guesses:
2149: Frame from a "Grandfather clock" (with a pendulum)
2154: My guess is that the ends are mostly there to help protect
the long thin thing(s) in the cylindrical part--say, during transport.
It appears sort of in the style of a musical instrument case--which
makes more sense than a shipping case due to the absence of a lock.
So my final guess is that it contains an instrument--perhaps one for
engineering, like a LEVEL, where accuracy is a virtue.
Bill
On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as
>> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>
>
> Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to make
> impressions in wood.
>
>
> Rob
My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
identification.
Kevin Gallimore
On 1/27/2011 11:50 AM, axolotl wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as
>>> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>>
>>
>> Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to make
>> impressions in wood.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
> would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
> the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
> identification.
>
> Kevin Gallimore
I can't do better, but don't you find it just "too coincidental" that
the ownern's mark in this case is a '$'?
Bill
On 1/27/2011 12:06 PM, Bill wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 11:50 AM, axolotl wrote:
>> On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as
>>>> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to make
>>> impressions in wood.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
>> would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
>> the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
>> identification.
>>
>> Kevin Gallimore
>
> I can't do better, but don't you find it just "too coincidental" that
> the ownern's mark in this case is a '$'?
>
> Bill
No. Were I in the business, I might use it myself. Easily recognized,
and easily communicated.
Kevin Gallimore
On 1/27/2011 11:25 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Jan 27, 8:15 am, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Alexander Thesoso"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as having
>>> been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>>
>> Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to make
>> impressions in wood.
>>
>> Rob
How about marking a (cooling) steel ingot. Maybe the "S and I" stands
for for Steel Ingot? Long shot???? "C and I" would stand for Copper
Ingot...hence dollars and cents : )
Bill
>
> That sounds reasonable.
> Or leather? For hides, maybe the hammer head could be dipped in ink,
> to temporarily tattoo a raw hide.
>
> Sonny
On 1/27/2011 12:34 PM, axolotl wrote:
> On 1/27/2011 12:06 PM, Bill wrote:
>> On 1/27/2011 11:50 AM, axolotl wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2011 9:15 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> 2150 If I were a customs official, and had to mark wooden crates as
>>>>> having been taxed, this might be a handy tool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a good use for it! I agree that it was probably used to
>>>> make
>>>> impressions in wood.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>
>>> My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
>>> would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
>>> the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
>>> identification.
>>>
>>> Kevin Gallimore
>>
>> I can't do better, but don't you find it just "too coincidental" that
>> the ownern's mark in this case is a '$'?
>>
>> Bill
>
> No. Were I in the business, I might use it myself. Easily recognized,
> and easily communicated.
>
> Kevin Gallimore
>
As a followup to myself, here you see the British Pound symbol used as a
timber mark:
http://www.archive.org/stream/cihm_07348#page/n35/mode/1up
Kevin Gallimore
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
>
> Rob
This is an update on the blue and red electrical device from last week, the
owner of it cut it open to see what was inside, see below for what was
found.
Here is the original photo from last week:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145.jpg
Two shots of the device after it was opened:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145na.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145nn.jpg
The owner's description:
1. The terminals come into the case through some white insulating kind of
plastic.
2. The exterior case is copper.
3. The terminals connect to two steel rods. They appear to be precisely
ground to size.
4. The two steel rods were separated by two pieces of glass (insulators?)
5. The two steel rods had blocs of carbon on the outside.
6. Two larger pieces of carbon were on the top and bottom of the above.
7. The entire assembly was wrapped in ordinary masking tape (no insulation
there!)
8. The space between the assembly wrapped in masking tape and the outer
copper shell was filled with powered carbon.
I still don't know what it was! If it weren't for the carbon (which is
conductive) I would think some kind of a capacitor.
Perhaps I am wrong about the solid carbon and the powdered carbon being
carbon... but it sure looks like it to me! Sure made a mess in my shop.
-----
Anyone have an answer for it?
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> This is an update on the blue and red electrical device from last week,
> the owner of it cut it open to see what was inside, see below for what
> was found.
>
> Here is the original photo from last week:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145.jpg
>
> Two shots of the device after it was opened:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145na.jpg
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145nn.jpg
>
> The owner's description:
>
> 1. The terminals come into the case through some white insulating kind
> of plastic.
> 2. The exterior case is copper.
> 3. The terminals connect to two steel rods. They appear to be precisely
> ground to size.
> 4. The two steel rods were separated by two pieces of glass (insulators?)
> 5. The two steel rods had blocs of carbon on the outside.
> 6. Two larger pieces of carbon were on the top and bottom of the above.
> 7. The entire assembly was wrapped in ordinary masking tape (no
> insulation there!)
> 8. The space between the assembly wrapped in masking tape and the outer
> copper shell was filled with powered carbon.
>
> I still don't know what it was! If it weren't for the carbon (which is
> conductive) I would think some kind of a capacitor.
> Perhaps I am wrong about the solid carbon and the powdered carbon being
> carbon... but it sure looks like it to me! Sure made a mess in my shop.
>
> -----
>
> Anyone have an answer for it?
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
If it was carbon I would say some form of resistor. Maybe a large audio
dummy load or carbon pile load for testing power supplies or RF
equipment. It would be non inductive and well shielded.
--
Steve W.
>2152: For some reason, I think of a screw plug for quickly sealing
>holes in a metal ship's hull. Maybe something from the war to plug
>below-the-waterline bullet holes or something.
I agree that it might be some kind of plug, haven't been able to find any
information on it yet.
>2149: Maybe something to keep count of the number of bushels of
>something (apples, etc) filled?
Correct, or close enough at least, they were part of a thresher and counted
the number of boxes filled with grain.
>2151: A nice handmade lemon squeezer
Yes, though I think it's for more than just lemons.
Rob
> > My guess is that it was used for timber marking. The butt of the log
> > would be stamped before the log was sent down the river. At the end of
> > the run, the logs would be separated using the owner's stamp as
> > identification.
>
> > Kevin Gallimore
>
> I think this is exactly right. Google "stamp hammer" and you'll see
> plenty of examples....they look very much like
> this.http://www.robarindustries.com/Rolog/PDFsRolog/log_hammers.pdf
>Or yet...
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5146104
Thanks, that's a good link, I would say that this is most likely the correct
answer.
Rob
2149 the knife gives it away. As dishwashers are to dishes,
this is to male infant circumcision.
More seriously, it's a mechanical counter for boxes that
come down an assembly line. Or for the turns of a wagon
wheel.
2150 no clue
2151 no clue
2152, not pointy enough to be a log splitter to fasten to
car wheel
2153 candle inserter, for high walls in churches
2154 bipartisan Congressholder. Holds up Republicans or
Democrats while they orate.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
Rob
> 2153) Where is the hole in the spike? On the end? (Not clear from
> the photo). If so, I might think that it would be used in a
> church for installing candles in candelabras and lighting them
> with a thin wax taper running through the spike. (I don't see
> the sliding part to adjust the extension of the taper, however.)
Someone sent me the photo so I don't know exactly where the hole is but was
told that there is one.
Tough set this week but most of them were answered correctly, still not sure
about number 2152, the rest of the answers have been posted here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html#answers
Rob
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> "Steve W." <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:ihsno1$4pc$1
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>
>> If it was carbon I would say some form of resistor. Maybe a large audio
>> dummy load or carbon pile load for testing power supplies or RF
>> equipment. It would be non inductive and well shielded.
>>
>
> Amen, and again! That's a dummy load. But not for long use, with that
> case and no cooling apparatus.
>
> LLoyd
Thanks guys, the owner of the device thinks that this is probably correct.
He had a few more questions on it:
- Why a copper case?
- Why are the input terminals red and black; they're both the same?
- Why an inner core of carbon block and an outer core of carbon powder.
- Why no markings of any kind? (could be a paper label which came off at
some time.)
Somebody suggested the copper case was possibly an RF shield, which sounds
good except it's not grounded to anything!
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Steve W." <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:ihsno1$4pc$1
>> @speranza.aioe.org:
>>
>>> If it was carbon I would say some form of resistor. Maybe a large audio
>>> dummy load or carbon pile load for testing power supplies or RF
>>> equipment. It would be non inductive and well shielded.
>>>
>>
>> Amen, and again! That's a dummy load. But not for long use, with that
>> case and no cooling apparatus.
>>
>> LLoyd
>
>
> Thanks guys, the owner of the device thinks that this is probably correct.
>
> He had a few more questions on it:
>
> - Why a copper case?
RF shielding and easy to form.
> - Why are the input terminals red and black; they're both the same?
They usually come as a set of B&R.
> - Why an inner core of carbon block and an outer core of carbon powder.
Carbon block for better voltage control, carbon powder because it's
cheaper and easier to fill the container rather than machining an entire
block.
> - Why no markings of any kind? (could be a paper label which came off at
> some time.)
If it's a kit or home built item the owner knew what it was, why label
it. Plus it looks like it had been repainted, there could have been
printing on the original paint.
> Somebody suggested the copper case was possibly an RF shield, which
> sounds good except it's not grounded to anything!
Doesn't really require it for a dummy load.
--
Steve W.
On 1/28/11 5:33 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> Tough set this week but most of them were answered correctly, still not
> sure about number 2152,
Here the DOT talks about maintaining trails by splitting rock with
drills and wedges.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/fspubs/84232602/page03.htm
It mentions shale, shist, sandstone, limestone, marble, and harder
rocks. The metal missing from 2152 makes me wonder if it's a screw
wedge for splitting some kinds of rock.
On 1/28/11 6:10 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> I also have some strong doubts about the item that you listed as a
> cigar holder. Yes, it has strong similarities to the cigar holding
> patent link your provided, but there are enough functional differences
> that I don't see how it could be one. The one pictured in your quiz
> has a widening 'mouthpiece' and no provision for a foot or anything to
> keep it from rolling over if put down. The widening mouthpiece is
> very problematic for something meant to inhale through - something
> with appreciable resistance. The tiny hole in the hollow pointed barb
> that pierces the cigar would have very little air flow to start with,
> and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
> ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
> difficult. When people inhale through something with resistance, they
> purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. Have the owner of that
> holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
> donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
Well, a trumpet has a big mouthpiece, and the player purses his lips
inside. However, smoking that way could leave stains around the lips,
something I doubt the inventor would like. The invention had a
mouthpiece that fit into the metal tube.
The invention had a bulb to catch liquids. The mystery item has none.
The parts of the invention unscrew for easy cleaning. The mystery item
doesn't appear to be screwed together.
45 215 looks little closer, but still substantially different.
I wonder if the mystery item was made to let somebody smoke a cigar for
five minutes and put it out without having it stink if he didn't relight
for a day or so. As smoke is drawn through a cigar, water and oil
condense in the tobacco. If you put it out and carry it around, it will
stink as those oils get old. The mystery item could keep smoke from
condensing in the tobacco by drawing it through the probe, near the
burning end.
Drawing the smoke through the length of a cigar cools it. The big brass
tube would be a way to cool smoke drawn from near the tip. The fatter
the tube, the slower smoke travels, and the more time it has to transfer
its heat to the metal. There may have been a mouthpiece that slipped
into the end of the tube.
> Tough set this week but most of them were answered correctly, still not
> sure
> about number 2152, the rest of the answers have been posted here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html#answers
>Hey Rob. Here's a better video of a Tesla coil in action. The guy is
>in a Farraday suit holding two fluorescent tubes in his hands. Tell
>me _that_ guy isn't brave!
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G_oXcCzBqk
Thanks! I added it to the web site.
>I also have some strong doubts about the item that you listed as a
>cigar holder. Yes, it has strong similarities to the cigar holding
>patent link your provided, but there are enough functional differences
>that I don't see how it could be one. The one pictured in your quiz
>has a widening 'mouthpiece' ...
The one in the patent has a screw in mouthpiece, it's possible that it's
missing from the one on my site, I'll ask the owner if the open end is
threaded.
>and no provision for a foot or anything to
>keep it from rolling over if put down.
If it was set down in an ashtray, it wouldn't matter if it was on its side
or not, I don't think it was meant to be put down on a table, same with the
old cigarette holders.
>The widening mouthpiece is
>very problematic for something meant to inhale through - something
>with appreciable resistance. The tiny hole in the hollow pointed barb
>that pierces the cigar would have very little air flow to start with,
I'll also ask how big the hole is, the patent mentions "a number of holes",
the owner mentioned "a hole" in an email, but may have mistyped.
>and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
>ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
>difficult. When people inhale through something with resistance, they
>purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. Have the owner of that
>holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
>donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
I think that cigar holder is the correct answer but will be happy to look at
any evidence that points in a different direction, I can't think of anything
else that it could be used for. I'll let everyone know when I hear back
from the owner.
Rob
"Jonathan Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Hey Rob. Here's a better video of a Tesla coil in action. The guy is
>> in a Farraday suit holding two fluorescent tubes in his hands. Tell
>> me _that_ guy isn't brave!
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G_oXcCzBqk
> By far the best use of Tesla Coils are all the people using them to play
> actual songs.
> Like this one here where they are playing the US national anthem on the
> Telsa Coils.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWf84muGRQ
>
> Or this one where they played the Star Wars Imperial March on one of those
> TV talent contents
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyYhcZwb7E
Those are great, I added the first one to the site.
Thanks,
Rob
"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/28/11 5:33 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Tough set this week but most of them were answered correctly, still not
>> sure about number 2152,
>
> Here the DOT talks about maintaining trails by splitting rock with drills
> and wedges.
>
>
> http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/fspubs/84232602/page03.htm
>
> It mentions shale, shist, sandstone, limestone, marble, and harder rocks.
> The metal missing from 2152 makes me wonder if it's a screw wedge for
> splitting some kinds of rock.
Sounds reasonable, I'll add this to my list of possible answers. I think
this one is going to hard to nail down, not really expecting to get a final
answer for it.
Rob
>I also have some strong doubts about the item that you listed as a
>cigar holder. Yes, it has strong similarities to the cigar holding
>patent link your provided, but there are enough functional differences
>that I don't see how it could be one. The one pictured in your quiz
>has a widening 'mouthpiece' and no provision for a foot or anything to
>keep it from rolling over if put down. The widening mouthpiece is
>very problematic for something meant to inhale through - something
>with appreciable resistance. The tiny hole in the hollow pointed barb
>that pierces the cigar would have very little air flow to start with,
>and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
>ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
>difficult. When people inhale through something with resistance, they
>purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. Have the owner of that
>holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
>donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
>R
If anyone happens to have the book "Mikatin" by Juha Vartiainen, item number
371 in it is this cigar holder. The title on the cover is actually
"M?katin", it's an excellent 'what is it?' book from Finland, but hard to
find in the U.S. The photo in the book makes the holder look a little
different than the one on my site, in the book the black stem looks long and
thin, about 1/4" diameter, with a small round hole in the end, similar to
what you might find in a pipe mouthpiece.
The shadow on the photo on my site makes the stem look thicker, and wider at
the end. I can't post the photo in the book because of copyright issues,
but I'm sure that most people who saw it would agree that the small hole in
the mouthpiece would work well for smoking a cigar with this holder.
Rob
On 1/28/11 8:58 PM, RicodJour wrote:
> On Jan 28, 8:39 pm, J Burns<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/28/11 6:10 PM, RicodJour wrote:
>>
>>> I also have some strong doubts about the item that you listed as a
>>> cigar holder. Yes, it has strong similarities to the cigar holding
>>> patent link your provided, but there are enough functional differences
>>> that I don't see how it could be one. The one pictured in your quiz
>>> has a widening 'mouthpiece' and no provision for a foot or anything to
>>> keep it from rolling over if put down. The widening mouthpiece is
>>> very problematic for something meant to inhale through - something
>>> with appreciable resistance. The tiny hole in the hollow pointed barb
>>> that pierces the cigar would have very little air flow to start with,
>>> and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
>>> ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
>>> difficult. When people inhale through something with resistance, they
>>> purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. Have the owner of that
>>> holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
>>> donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
>>
>> Well, a trumpet has a big mouthpiece, and the player purses his lips
>> inside.
>
> What trumpet player inhales through it? The PSI would be a function
> between the relative sizes of the two ports. On any of Rob's posts we
> could always surmise that a piece is missing to make our guesses
> 'work'.
>
> R
Is PSI pressure? Pressure would be atmospheric pressure minus losses
from restrictions. Those losses would vary according to flow. The
losses of drawing a puff of smoke through a cigar and through a
wire-sized orifice are likely to be small.
I put my finger over the little end of my trumpet mouthpiece, put my
lips into it, and puffed in, moving my finger enough to let air leak
with resistance. It worked fine. If I smoked a whole cigar that way, I
might need to wipe away a ring around my lips.
RicodJour wrote:
> On Jan 27, 5:10 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
> 2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
The proportions are all wrong for any practical Tesla coil I've ever seen
pix of. The post is too skinny, and what's with the big top hat?
Thanks,
Rich
On 1/28/11 8:54 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> and that coupled with a widening and fairly large opening where
>> ostensibly someones' lip would be, would make the draw very, very
>> difficult. When people inhale through something with resistance, they
>> purse their lips, not hold their lips wide. Have the owner of that
>> holder try to smoke a cigar through it and I would bet dollars to
>> donuts he will confirm my suspicions.
>
>
> I think that cigar holder is the correct answer but will be happy to
> look at any evidence that points in a different direction, I can't think
> of anything else that it could be used for. I'll let everyone know when
> I hear back from the owner.
With a trumpet mouthpiece, I have found it easy to suck air against
resistance with my lips in rather than around a mouthpiece.
45,215 (1864) is an earlier patent. It has no bulb to collect liquids.
It has a place for a piece of sponge soaked in camphor, a sort of
menthol filter.
Your patent says one advantage is that because the smoke is drawn from
near the burning tip, the rest of the cigar is not spoiled if you decide
to save it.
I think that's the big advantage of the mystery item. In addition, the
large tube would cool the smoke. Any condensate could easily be wiped
out of a tube that large, long before there was enough to run. So who
needs a bulb or a sponge?
J Burns wrote:
>
> I put my finger over the little end of my trumpet mouthpiece, put my
> lips into it, and puffed in, moving my finger enough to let air leak
> with resistance. It worked fine. If I smoked a whole cigar that way, I
> might need to wipe away a ring around my lips.
I seriously doubt if any real smoker would even consider such a thing.
One of the most important, but most overlooked (or ignored) aspects
of smoking anything is, it's something to stick in your mouth. :-)
Hope This Helps!
Rich
On 1/29/11 4:52 PM, Rich Grise wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>> On Jan 27, 5:10 am, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>>
>> 2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
>
> The proportions are all wrong for any practical Tesla coil I've ever seen
> pix of. The post is too skinny, and what's with the big top hat?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
It's the 19th Century. You walk into a political caucus. The absence
of footprints in the fresh snow has told you that nobody has stepped out
for fresh air because it's very cold and nobody wants members to suffer
frostbite.
A boss spots your case, rushes over, slaps you on the back, and invites
you to the smoke-filled room in back. As he leads you across the floor,
others join you. Your reputation has preceded you.
You set up your invention and they stand in a circle gushing praise.
They agree that you will be the next President of the United States.
They don't shake hands but are definitely relieved to conclude their
business.
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:02:10 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"[email protected]" wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:36:07 +0800, "Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>> >>
>> >>>2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
>> >>
>> >>>R
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think this is probably correct. One odd thing about the case, I don't
>> >> remember seeing a handle on it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob
>> >
>> >
>> >A couple of questions:
>> >
>> >Have tesla coils ever been manufactured commercially / in volume?
>>
>> http://www.scientificsonline.com/50000-volt-tesla-coil-with-experiment-book.html
>> http://www.amazing1.com/tesla.htm
>>
>> >Would someone bother to make such a nice case for a one off tesla coil?
>>
>> People make nice one-off furniture. ;-)
>
>
> But you have to chose the people VERY carefully, and examine them
>closely for defects if you want nice furniture! ;-)
**IT'S PEOPLE!!!!**
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>
>>2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
>
>>R
>
>
> I think this is probably correct. One odd thing about the case, I don't
> remember seeing a handle on it.
>
>
> Rob
A couple of questions:
Have tesla coils ever been manufactured commercially / in volume?
Would someone bother to make such a nice case for a one off tesla coil?
On 2011-01-27, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always:
2149) Looks like something designed to count out the number of lengths
of some product -- perhaps cheese or butter. The device with a
handle below it would appear to be for scribing a cutting line
for thicker things, or for cutting fully through thinner things.
Since the smaller one seems to increment in steps of 2, I would
guess that these are units of weight -- ounces or pounds.
2150) Hmm ... the '$' seems to be upside down as shown, which
suggests that it would be used while standing on the item,
perhaps to mark the end of a length of log as accepted.
How long is the handle? It sort of looks like a sledge hammer,
but I'm not sure.
2151) Perhaps for forming round cakes of soap or something similar,
with the adjustment screw tuning for the final size.
2152) Drive it into the end of a section of log, then screw it in to
split the log.
2153) Where is the hole in the spike? On the end? (Not clear from
the photo). If so, I might think that it would be used in a
church for installing candles in candelabras and lighting them
with a thin wax taper running through the spike. (I don't see
the sliding part to adjust the extension of the taper, however.)
2154) A carrying case for a badly unbalanced dumbbell set. :-)
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2011-01-27, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>A new set of photos has been added to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> This is an update on the blue and red electrical device from last week, the
> owner of it cut it open to see what was inside, see below for what was
> found.
[ ... ]
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145na.jpg
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2145nn.jpg
>
> The owner's description:
>
> 1. The terminals come into the case through some white insulating kind of
> plastic.
> 2. The exterior case is copper.
> 3. The terminals connect to two steel rods. They appear to be precisely
> ground to size.
> 4. The two steel rods were separated by two pieces of glass (insulators?)
> 5. The two steel rods had blocs of carbon on the outside.
> 6. Two larger pieces of carbon were on the top and bottom of the above.
> 7. The entire assembly was wrapped in ordinary masking tape (no insulation
> there!)
> 8. The space between the assembly wrapped in masking tape and the outer
> copper shell was filled with powered carbon.
>
> I still don't know what it was! If it weren't for the carbon (which is
> conductive) I would think some kind of a capacitor.
> Perhaps I am wrong about the solid carbon and the powdered carbon being
> carbon... but it sure looks like it to me! Sure made a mess in my shop.
[ ... ]
> Anyone have an answer for it?
O.K. The copper makes a good electrostatic shield.
If the powder is truly carbon, it *could* be some kind of
vibration transducer -- similar to a carbon microphone -- where
vibration changes the resistance. Perhaps something for detecting
footsteps in the forest or something similar.
I presume that there were no experiments with measuring at the
terminals prior to disassembly?
Enjoy,
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On 2011-01-28, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
[ ... ]
> Thanks guys, the owner of the device thinks that this is probably correct.
>
> He had a few more questions on it:
>
> - Why a copper case?
Shielding -- keep the signal inside -- or keep an external
signal from getting in.
> - Why are the input terminals red and black; they're both the same?
Commonly supplied in colored pairs, as they are commonly used
for speaker outputs on amplifiers. You can buy them all in one color,
or in mounted pairs or whatever, but the most readily available are in
red/black pairs. Aside from the red and black, in good quality ones,
such as those by Greyhill, I also have some green and blue ones.
Here is what Graywhill's binding posts look like:
<http://www.grayhill.com/web1/TABproducts.asp?SolutionCatID=366&LevelID=3&TabID=1>
note that tehy come either with individual panel insulators, or ones
which hold two at the standard 3/4" spacing. (For that matter, I know
that they at least once had triangular patterns of three as well.
Downloading the data sheet, I no longer see the triangular three post
base insulator. But these were perhaps twenty years ago. :-)
From other makers, I have also seen yellow and white ones.
Others, once made by General Radio, were available in three
colors -- red, black, and bare metal. The latter was used as a ground,
the black was often right next to it with a sliding link to allow
grounding it or not at need, and the third was red, which was the hot
side.
But these look like the poor quality ones which were once sold
by Radio Shack -- and those would have been sold with the assumption
that they would be used as speaker terminals, thus the red and black
pairs. Radio Shack also offers (at least on their web site) some better
quality ones as well.
I just went searching on Radio Shack's web page, and found this
(among others):
<http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103984>
These look very much like the ones which were in the device under
discussion. They are sold in packs of two pairs -- two red and two black.
> - Why an inner core of carbon block and an outer core of carbon powder.
Perhaps to even out clumping? Was there no carbon powder in
contact with the rods?
Note that carbon granule microphones in use tended to clump, and
had to be bumped to break up the clumps. Think of the old telephones
(which used carbon granule microphones), and how occasionally they would
produce weak sound. If you bumped the microphone end of the handset
against a table it would break up the clumping and improve the sound
level.
> - Why no markings of any kind? (could be a paper label which came off at
> some time.)
Could be -- or if it was unique -- or one of only a few, the
distinctive color pattern could explain what it was to those who were
presumed to need to know. :-)
> Somebody suggested the copper case was possibly an RF shield, which sounds
> good except it's not grounded to anything!
A complete copper shield does not have to be grounded to block
RF. It can be advantageous to ground it if you want to control buildup
of static voltages, of course.
Or -- it could be that there was a connection from the black
binding post to the copper case -- which would serve as the requested
reason for the two colors.
Enjoy,
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:36:07 +0800, "Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/01/set-373.html
>>
>>>2154. A case for a Tesla coil.
>>
>>>R
>>
>>
>> I think this is probably correct. One odd thing about the case, I don't
>> remember seeing a handle on it.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
>A couple of questions:
>
>Have tesla coils ever been manufactured commercially / in volume?
http://www.scientificsonline.com/50000-volt-tesla-coil-with-experiment-book.html
http://www.amazing1.com/tesla.htm
>Would someone bother to make such a nice case for a one off tesla coil?
People make nice one-off furniture. ;-)