Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander in
quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4 Klingspor belts
come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts were barely warm and the
grit was not clogged. The joint strip separated from the belt itself. I have
some Sungold belts of the same vintage and they stayed together.
Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
John
"John Grossbohlin" wrote:
> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively
> old sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt
> sander in quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had
> 4 Klingspor belts come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts
> were barely warm and the grit was not clogged. The joint strip
> separated from the belt itself. I have some Sungold belts of the
> same vintage and they stayed together.
>
> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
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Belts definitely have a shelf life.
Have experienced the same problem with some old belts given to me.
I only use 3x24, 24 grit belts since I'm using the B/S as an abrasive
cutting tool.
Tried a few different brands, but not Klingspor, and finally found
Pearl which worked well.
Bought 3 boxes/10/box (30 total) at a time which was a good price
break.
About $10/box from memory.
Worked with a local hardware store.
They would use my order to make minimum orders with Pearl, a Canuck
outfit with a warehouse here in Los angeles, so everybody was happy.
Lew
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:52:03 -0500, Jack Stein <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 1/27/2011 11:26 AM, GROVER wrote:
>
>> I agree with Garage Woodworks. Buy
>> them in small quantities on an as needed basis. Retail cost should be
>> less than throwing away unused but failed belts.
>
>Why throw away unused belts when you can easily glue them back together,
>good as new?
What? It's much easier to just staple them.
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman
On Jan 26, 6:40=A0pm, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
> sanding belts failing at the seam? =A0I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander i=
n
> quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4 Klingspor bel=
ts
> come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts were barely warm and t=
he
> grit was not clogged. The joint strip separated from the belt itself. I h=
ave
> some Sungold belts of the same vintage and they stayed together.
>
> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
>
> John
I haven't got anything radically new to add to previous discussion. I
have the same problem and attribute it to keeping new belts beyond
their usefull shelf life. Manufacturers don't seem willing to alert
their customers to this problem. I agree with Garage Woodworks. Buy
them in small quantities on an as needed basis. Retail cost should be
less than throwing away unused but failed belts.
Joe G
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:41:18 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "John Grossbohlin" wrote:
>> Funny, I've got some planes that are a good 60-70+ years old and
>> they still work fine... wonder what the shelf life is on them? ;~)
>-------------------------------
>Depends on the attached power supply.
New power supplies are a dime a dozen, but the planes sell for lots on
eBay to nouveau Yuppies.
Plane lifetimes are measured in centuries...if kept dry.
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John Grossbohlin" wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
>> sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander in
>> quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4 Klingspor
>> belts come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts were barely warm
>> and the grit was not clogged. The joint strip separated from the belt
>> itself. I have some Sungold belts of the same vintage and they stayed
>> together.
>>
>> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
> -------------------------------------------
> Belts definitely have a shelf life.
>
Funny, I've got some planes that are a good 60-70+ years old and they still
work fine... wonder what the shelf life is on them? ;~)
John
"garage woodworker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> YES!!!! I bought several 'packs' of belts from them and hardly used my
> belt
> sander. When I did they seperated at the seam right away after only
> several
> minutes of use. I sent them back and complained. They sent me 1 new one to
> replace the 6 I sent in and told me it was "out of courtesy" and that the
> belts were over 8 years old. i didn't realize that they had a shelf life.
> So now I just buy em retail if I need some. Mail order isn't worth the
> hassle for something I don't use much.
>
I was using the belt sander a lot in a renovation project when I bought the
belts so I bought in bulk. I'll buy 'em a few at a time now that I know
about the self life problem...
John
YES!!!! I bought several 'packs' of belts from them and hardly used my belt
sander. When I did they seperated at the seam right away after only several
minutes of use. I sent them back and complained. They sent me 1 new one to
replace the 6 I sent in and told me it was "out of courtesy" and that the
belts were over 8 years old. i didn't realize that they had a shelf life.
So now I just buy em retail if I need some. Mail order isn't worth the
hassle for something I don't use much.
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
> sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander
> in quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4
> Klingspor belts come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts
> were barely warm and the grit was not clogged. The joint strip
> separated from the belt itself. I have some Sungold belts of the same
> vintage and they stayed together.
>
> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
>
> John
>
"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
>> sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander in
>> quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4 Klingspor
>> belts
>> come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts were barely warm and
>> the
>> grit was not clogged. The joint strip separated from the belt itself. I
>> have
>> some Sungold belts of the same vintage and they stayed together.
>>
>> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
>>
>> John
>>
>
> There was a thread on this exact thing last Nov.
> Subject: Klingspor Sanding Belts / $29 for 30 belts (!?)
> Art
>
>
Just went back and found that thread... ignored it at the time as I don't
do much sanding of wood and it had probably been 10-11 years since I used
the belt sander! I'm a plane/scraper guy with wood and only use the belt
sander for things like taking finish/paint off flat surfaces like cabinet
doors and sections of floors... Wish I knew about the CA glue trick before
now!
John
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
>
> I did and the answer made me blush. I hadn't noticed the arrow
> indicating proper belt direction. When I put another of the old ones
> on the -right- way, it is lasting well.
>
> Some belts are bi-directional, others aren't. Remember to check!
They were definitely mounted correctly.... I think I've only had one
bi-directional belt and it was a freebie that the vendor included with the
belt sander when I bought it. I'm conditioned to look for the arrow!
BTW, the Sungolds are holding up just fine despite being a good decade
old...
John
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
> sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander in
> quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4 Klingspor belts
> come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts were barely warm and the
> grit was not clogged. The joint strip separated from the belt itself. I have
> some Sungold belts of the same vintage and they stayed together.
>
> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
>
> John
>
There was a thread on this exact thing last Nov.
Subject: Klingspor Sanding Belts / $29 for 30 belts (!?)
Art
On 1/27/2011 11:26 AM, GROVER wrote:
> I agree with Garage Woodworks. Buy
> them in small quantities on an as needed basis. Retail cost should be
> less than throwing away unused but failed belts.
Why throw away unused belts when you can easily glue them back together,
good as new?
--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com
On 1/26/2011 6:40 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
> sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander in
> quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4 Klingspor
> belts come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts were barely
> warm and the grit was not clogged. The joint strip separated from the
> belt itself. I have some Sungold belts of the same vintage and they
> stayed together.
>
> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
My 6x48" belts are well over 20 years old and they do fail. I
"temporarily" glued one together hoping I could get through a small job
I was doing without running out to buy belts. That was 6 months to a
year ago and the damned belt has many hours on it, and works good as
new. It seems it will wear out before it breaks...
Super Glue Gel, sold everywhere.
--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively
> old sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt
> sander in quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had
> 4 Klingspor belts come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts
> were barely warm and the grit was not clogged. The joint strip
> separated from the belt itself. I have some Sungold belts of the
> same vintage and they stayed together.
>
> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
>
> John
JG:
I received a bounty of helpful answers re repairing broken belts on
this newsgroup in the thread inaugurated on 7.16.10 under the
heading "Belt Sander Belt Tape".
Thanks again to the very
helpful folks in response.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:55:42 GMT, garage woodworker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>YES!!!! I bought several 'packs' of belts from them and hardly used my belt
>sander. When I did they seperated at the seam right away after only several
>minutes of use. I sent them back and complained. They sent me 1 new one to
>replace the 6 I sent in and told me it was "out of courtesy" and that the
>belts were over 8 years old. i didn't realize that they had a shelf life.
>So now I just buy em retail if I need some. Mail order isn't worth the
>hassle for something I don't use much.
>
>"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Out of curiosity, has anyone had problems with new but relatively old
>> sanding belts failing at the seam? I hadn't used my 4x24 belt sander
>> in quite some time but I had a stock of belts on hand. I had 4
>> Klingspor belts come apart at the seam within minutes... the belts
>> were barely warm and the grit was not clogged. The joint strip
>> separated from the belt itself. I have some Sungold belts of the same
>> vintage and they stayed together.
>>
>> Anyhow, anyone else run in to this problem?
I did and the answer made me blush. I hadn't noticed the arrow
indicating proper belt direction. When I put another of the old ones
on the -right- way, it is lasting well.
Some belts are bi-directional, others aren't. Remember to check!
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman