James engstrom <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
> aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that?
> i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then
> what else do people use?
Lee Valley sells one that probably could use wooden inserts:
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=55985&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
Puckdropper
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Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On 2/22/2013 5:44 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "James engstrom" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
> aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i
> have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what
> else do people use?
> =============================================================================================================================
>
> Your Google must be defective.
> http://tinyurl.com/b7dc7ct
Close, sorta, kinda but I didn't see what I think that James is looking
for; an insert that has replaceable zero clearance center inserts.
I've got one in the shop for my Jet Cabinet saw that I bought (99% sure)
at the local Woodcraft store about five years ago. Red anodized
aluminum frame with little spring loaded balls to help keep it snug and
adjustable (hex key) headless screws to level it.
Then, mounted therein is a phenolic plate which forms the zero-clearance
part. I THINK I may have the manufacturer's name out in the shop if I
look hard enough. If you can't dig it up at Woodcraft, etc. let me know
and I try to find it (the manufacturer's name)for you.
FWIW, I do recall that the packaging was rather minimalist - kinda like
you'd expect if some machinist had some spare time on a CNC rig and
figured to make make a buck or two or three.
I THINK that a Unisaw plate was one of the models offered.
Only thing that I see on Woodcraft presently is:
<http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2000909/31917/delta-unisaw-zeroclearance-dado-insert.aspx>
On 2/22/2013 8:52 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> James engstrom <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
>> aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that?
>> i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then
>> what else do people use?
>
> Lee Valley sells one that probably could use wooden inserts:
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=55985&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
There you go, James. That's the same one that I have for my Jet. When
needed, I'll just run some white oak scraps through the planer to get
the proper thickness.
I should have read the damn thread in order and saved the time.
Thanks, Puckdropper!
P.S. Those puppies have really gotten dear. Don't think mine was a
close-out item at Woodcraft, but it could have been. Think I paid less
than $40 for mine 5 or 6 years back.
On 2/23/2013 10:05 AM, Pat wrote:
>>
>> Daxxxx!!! I guess. Almost $100 for something that takes <5 min to
>> make from scrap/leftovers...that's nonsense.
>>
>> --
>
> I suppose it depends on whether he has a band saw or not. The insert
> can probably be made on a table saw.
True, but the beauty of the one described is that the replacement pieces
are a simple rectangle. Once you get the thickness down, it's a breeze
to cut a dozen and have them waiting in the wings. No worries about
leveling them, etc. Still, for $85...<g>
On 2/22/2013 6:44 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "James engstrom" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
> aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i
> have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what
> else do people use?
> =============================================================================================================================
>
> Your Google must be defective.
> http://tinyurl.com/b7dc7ct
this is more what he is looking for:
http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Clearance-Throat-Plate-Insert-Unisaw/dp/B008SYZ6ZO/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
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Jeff
On 2/22/2013 6:21 PM, James engstrom wrote:
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else do people use?
>
Just make your own.
I use MDF with a formica laminate.
I also picked up a cheap plastic (milk container like plastic)
cutting board.
Ply wood.
Whatever you use put a finish on it to make it smooth, make 3 at least.
one zero clearance
one for a dado
one for angled cuts.
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Jeff
"James engstrom" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i have
googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else do
people use?
=============================================================================================================================
Your Google must be defective.
http://tinyurl.com/b7dc7ct
On 2/22/2013 5:21 PM, James engstrom wrote:
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else do people use?
>
IIRC those were discontinued long ago.
On Feb 22, 6:21=A0pm, James engstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw =A0i remember Norm had an a=
luminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i have=
googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else d=
o people use?
1/2" Baltic birch. They last for years, even longer if you
patch them with epoxy putty.
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:21:46 -0800 (PST), James engstrom
<[email protected]> wrote:
>i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else do people use?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zero-Clearance-Inserts-for-Delta-Unisaw-table-saw-accessories-/321076708386
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw =A0i remember Norm had an a=
luminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i have=
googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else d=
o people use?''
Check out Charles Neil's site:
http://www.cn-woodworking.com/zero-clearance-reference/
On the other hand, I've been making my own inserts for years. I use
1/2" Baltic Birch with small screws in the ends for height adjustment.
The screws that work best are the same that I use for Blum cup hinges.
On Friday, February 22, 2013 11:22:12 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> > i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw =A0i remember Norm had an=
aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i ha=
ve googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what else=
do people use?''
>=20
>=20
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> Check out Charles Neil's site:
>=20
> THATS IT where can i find one????
>=20
> http://www.cn-woodworking.com/zero-clearance-reference/
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On the other hand, I've been making my own inserts for years. I use
>=20
> 1/2" Baltic Birch with small screws in the ends for height adjustment.
>=20
> The screws that work best are the same that I use for Blum cup hinges.
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:05:29 -0800, "Pat" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Daxxxx!!! I guess. Almost $100 for something that takes <5 min to make
>> from scrap/leftovers...that's nonsense.
>>
>> --
>
>I suppose it depends on whether he has a band saw or not. The insert can
>probably be made on a table saw.
What I do is cut rectangular blanks on the table saw, slightly
oversized, then cut the rounded corners on the bandsaw, slightly
oversized, then final cut using a template bit on the router table
(the original insert is the template).
I make them up in batches and my last batch has lasted for years.
On 2/22/2013 5:21 PM, James engstrom wrote:
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
> aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that?
> i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then
> what else do people use?
I just make 'em as needed from scrap material--if they're for something
that's going to see a lot of projected use, then hardwood or maybe
something laminated; if just a one-off, any ol' thing'll work just fine.
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On 2/23/2013 12:01 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 2/22/2013 8:52 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> James engstrom <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
>>> aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that?
>>> i have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then
>>> what else do people use?
>>
>> Lee Valley sells one that probably could use wooden inserts:
>> http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=55985&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
...
> P.S. Those puppies have really gotten dear.....
Daxxxx!!! I guess. Almost $100 for something that takes <5 min to make
from scrap/leftovers...that's nonsense.
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On 2/23/2013 10:05 AM, Pat wrote:
>>
>> Daxxxx!!! I guess. Almost $100 for something that takes <5 min to make
>> from scrap/leftovers...that's nonsense.
>>
...
> I suppose it depends on whether he has a band saw or not. The insert can
> probably be made on a table saw.
All it would take is a jigsaw and rasp/file and about 10-15 minutes
instead of 5...
Or, spend a little longer and route out a center section for the inserts
if one is really that serious that want them that way.
The LV one is just ridiculously overpriced im(nsh)o...at a third of that
I'd still balk.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Unquestionably Confused <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2/23/2013 10:05 AM, Pat wrote:
>>>
>>> Daxxxx!!! I guess. Almost $100 for something that takes <5 min to
>>> make from scrap/leftovers...that's nonsense.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> I suppose it depends on whether he has a band saw or not. The insert
>> can probably be made on a table saw.
>
>True, but the beauty of the one described is that the replacement pieces
>are a simple rectangle. Once you get the thickness down, it's a breeze
>to cut a dozen and have them waiting in the wings. No worries about
>leveling them, etc. Still, for $85...<g>
>
>
>
I've cut plenty of them out on a cheap scroll saw. You can also use a
jig saw, router, or even by hand with a coping saw or fret saw. Rip to
width first on the table saw and then you only have to cut the curve
at each end.
--
Often wrong, never in doubt.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
On 2/23/2013 9:55 PM, Jim Weisgram wrote:
...
> What I do is cut rectangular blanks on the table saw, slightly
> oversized, then cut the rounded corners on the bandsaw, slightly
> oversized, then final cut using a template bit on the router table
> (the original insert is the template).
...
Dang!! Why in the world haven't I ever thought of it (in 50-something
years!) Good catch--use patterns all the time but for some reason when
make one of these end up doing it by hand automatically w/o thinking
about having a pattern already at the ready...
--
On 2/24/2013 9:43 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/24/2013 10:09 AM, dpb wrote:
>> On 2/23/2013 9:55 PM, Jim Weisgram wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> What I do is cut rectangular blanks on the table saw, slightly
>>> oversized, then cut the rounded corners on the bandsaw, slightly
>>> oversized, then final cut using a template bit on the router table
>>> (the original insert is the template).
>> ...
>>
>> Dang!! Why in the world haven't I ever thought of it (in 50-something
>> years!) Good catch--use patterns all the time but for some reason when
>> make one of these end up doing it by hand automatically w/o thinking
>> about having a pattern already at the ready...
>>
>> --
> I used the plate as a pattern too.
> But the original plate is loose in the access hole.
...
The PM Model 66 plates fit well other than they dado plate they gave me
obviously was the one for a different saw--the cutout is wrong. I
didn't notice for long enough I never got a replacement. Was just
looking yesterday while cutting the notches for the chair repair of
earlier thread and decided ought to try to cut out the offending
area--the cut is right left/right, just not long enough towards the rear
for clearance...
--
On 2/24/2013 10:09 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 2/23/2013 9:55 PM, Jim Weisgram wrote:
> ...
>
>> What I do is cut rectangular blanks on the table saw, slightly
>> oversized, then cut the rounded corners on the bandsaw, slightly
>> oversized, then final cut using a template bit on the router table
>> (the original insert is the template).
> ...
>
> Dang!! Why in the world haven't I ever thought of it (in 50-something
> years!) Good catch--use patterns all the time but for some reason when
> make one of these end up doing it by hand automatically w/o thinking
> about having a pattern already at the ready...
>
> --
I used the plate as a pattern too.
But the original plate is loose in the access hole.
I put a bullet catch in mine.
But next time I will cut to exact size on the sides, easily measurable.
And calculate the radius, and make one master. Then do the rest as a
pattern of that.
Much easier since the bullet catches are expensive these days, and also
need to be countersunk to just the right depth.
--
Jeff
On 2/22/2013 5:21 PM, James engstrom wrote:
> i am looking for a throat plate for my unisaw i remember Norm had an
aluminum one that held wooden inserts any idea where i can find that? i
have googled already and had very few results..if not that one then what
else do people use?
>
I liked that metal one with the replaceable inserts, but it was/is not
available (for the saw I had then, Powermatic 63, or for my present
Grizzly G0691, that I love!) So I (a) bought some of the wooden inserts,
so I would know the "standard" dimensions, and (b) milled an aluminum
plate using those, using my mini-mill. I did that for the first saw. I
later sold that, moved up to the Grizz, and I intend (getting around
some health problems) to make one for it. As a metalworking project it
is pretty trivial, except that the piece is longer than my mini-mill can
conveniently work, I had to make two setups and cuts to cut the sides of
the plate. The round ends are trivial with a rotary table for the mill.
So if you have a friend (or yourself) who does any metalworking I
suggest that. I don't know what a machine shop would charge to do it,
though, probably too much...
I do have some fiberboard plates I quickly made for the Grizz, but the
aluminum one with inserts is definitely the way I want to get back to.
Bob Wilson