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Sonny

06/01/2018 8:29 PM

Some Stuff.....

Finally warmed enough to get into the shop, though still had to use the tor=
pedo heater. Hope all of you northern folks are doing well, with your ter=
rible weather conditions.

I noticed the "breeze" in the shop was pronounced. I had never finished t=
he remodel of west-side gable end (attic area). I had covered that area =
with visqueen and it had deteriorated, hence it was open to the weather. =
My heat was escaping through the gable end attic. Yesterday and today, I =
replaced the visqueen and cut and primed the T1-11 to finish the siding, of=
that top area. Tomorrow, I will paint the T1-11 and hopefully install it=
, if I can finish the framing. The old stud framing is 2' on centers. I=
want 16" on centers. I'll take pics of these goings on, tomorrow.

I had initially (yesterday) gone into the shop to make a "T" astragal, for =
the doors of the telescope room. This evening I started that project.... =
pulled out some 3"X3" (*eyeball measuring) cypress stock and squared it on =
the jointer. Shaping the astragal profile stock proved to be a discovery =
of a screw-up. One end of the stock was 3"X3" and the other end was 3.25" =
X 3.25" (the result of the eyeball, only, measuring), which screwed up my t=
able saw cutting, along the assumed appropriate lines. I had to glue the =
cutoff back on, so now I have to wait, until tomorrow, to circle saw the pr=
oper lines. Two pics- the stock and the glued assembly:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680403097/in/dateposted-public=
/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/39518294912/in/dateposted-public=
/

This evening I did some more work on the cypress chairs. Scroll left for =
the sequence of pics.
Pic 1- the latest notched seat, Pic 2 - partial contour of another seat, an=
d Pic 3 - two sets of legs, one contoured and the other not. All-in-all, =
a work in progress, slowly, but it's getting there.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680452237/in/dateposted-public=
/


Yesterday and today was fairly productive and hope to continue tomorrow.

Sports etiquette question - Re: NFL Playoffs: Are you suppose to start dri=
nking before the game starts or do you wait for the game to start, then sta=
rt drinking? I've always been of the mind, if you're not doing the cooking=
, you can start drinking before the game starts. Go Saints!

Sonny


This topic has 11 replies

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Sonny

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 10:03 AM

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 11:10:09 AM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:

>=20
> I'm concerned about the thin section of the T.
> The grain orientation makes it very easy to snap right off.

Yeah, that has happened before, 30-35 yrs ago, remodeling my brother's home=
. He had bought a set of antique doors, with a damaged astragal. I made =
a new one, the T eventually breaking. I had always liked that original as=
tragal design, hence, the basis of this latest one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/27784124309/in/dateposted-public=
/
>=20
> Good work on it, it looks great.

Thanks.
Sonny

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 6:47 AM

On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:29:43 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
...snip...
> Two pics- the stock and the glued assembly:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680403097/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/39518294912/in/dateposted-public/
>

Sorry,

Forgot the link to my glue-up in the previous post...

https://i.imgur.com/X8K6dXB.jpg

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Sonny

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 8:24 AM

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:48:00 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:

>=20
> Forgot the link to my glue-up in the previous post...
>=20
> https://i.imgur.com/X8K6dXB.jpg

The reattached strip was not thin, but about 1"X 1", besides, I would have =
had to make some cauls. Quicker to just clamp it on.

4 Pics of the roughed astragal. Still need to do some finish sanding. Al=
so, the T aspect is a tab thick, to fit between the doors. More/finish s=
anding is needed, there. Scroll right from Pic 1) Proposed profile, Pics=
2 & 3) shaped, Pic 4) the length (82").
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/25688659518/in/dateposted-public=
/

Too chilly, this morning, for painting the T1-11 siding, plus a threat of r=
ain. Temps in/near the 70s later this week, so that siding work will wait=
.

Sonny

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 10:34 AM

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 11:24:22 AM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:48:00 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > Forgot the link to my glue-up in the previous post...
> >=20
> > https://i.imgur.com/X8K6dXB.jpg
>=20
> The reattached strip was not thin, but about 1"X 1", besides, I would hav=
e had to make some cauls. Quicker to just clamp it on.

I see.

I had just ripped a whole bunch of stock for the bed I was building so I ha=
d (and still have)
a whole bunch of cauls lying around.

>=20
> 4 Pics of the roughed astragal. Still need to do some finish sanding. =
Also, the T aspect is a tab thick, to fit between the doors. More/finish=
sanding is needed, there. Scroll right from Pic 1) Proposed profile, Pi=
cs 2 & 3) shaped, Pic 4) the length (82").
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/25688659518/in/dateposted-publ=
ic/
>=20
> Too chilly, this morning, for painting the T1-11 siding, plus a threat of=
rain. Temps in/near the 70s later this week, so that siding work will wa=
it.
>=20

Chilly? Poor boy. Wanna hang out by my fire pit to warm up? ;-)

https://i.imgur.com/Zzk5qJM.jpg

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 10:29 AM

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 1:15:58 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
> "DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:29:43 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> >
> > ...snip..
> >
> >
> >> I had to glue the cutoff back on, so now I have to wait, until tomorrow,
> >> to circle saw the proper lines. Two pics- the stock and the glued
> >> assembly:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680403097/in/dateposted-public/
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/39518294912/in/dateposted-public/
> >>
> >
> > That's a lot of clamps!
> >
> > When I needed to laminate thin strips onto a board to create a matching
> > "side
> > grain" I used thicker pieces of wood as sort of cauls so that I could use
> > fewer clamps. In this image I am laminating both edges of the wider board
> > with an ~1/8 strip. (laminate can be seen peeking out near the left most
> > clamp).
> >
> > I covered the cauls with clear packing tape to prevent the clue from
> > getting
> > on them.
>
> For 1/8" or less, I just iron them on, no clamps needed.

Iron them on with what? What adhesive?

Ll

Leon

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 2:14 PM

On 1/7/2018 10:24 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:48:00 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>
>> Forgot the link to my glue-up in the previous post...
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/X8K6dXB.jpg
>
> The reattached strip was not thin, but about 1"X 1", besides, I would have had to make some cauls. Quicker to just clamp it on.
>
> 4 Pics of the roughed astragal. Still need to do some finish sanding. Also, the T aspect is a tab thick, to fit between the doors. More/finish sanding is needed, there. Scroll right from Pic 1) Proposed profile, Pics 2 & 3) shaped, Pic 4) the length (82").
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/25688659518/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Too chilly, this morning, for painting the T1-11 siding, plus a threat of rain. Temps in/near the 70s later this week, so that siding work will wait.
>
> Sonny
>

Nice!

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 5:54 AM

On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:29:43 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> Finally warmed enough to get into the shop, though still had to use=20
> the torpedo heater. Hope all of you northern folks are doing well,=20
> with your terrible weather conditions.

I'm about to go clear some snow. 3=C2=B0, wind chills in the minus teens.

My daughter lives in VT. -21=C2=B0 right now, but no wind. She teaches=20
2nd and 3rd graders how to ski. They've been doing indoor activities
for the past few days.

She just got a new (used) car. No remote start yet. Sucks to be her.


Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 5:47 AM

On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:29:43 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:

...snip..


> I had to glue the cutoff back on, so now I have to wait, until tomorrow,
> to circle saw the proper lines. Two pics- the stock and the glued
> assembly:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680403097/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/39518294912/in/dateposted-public/
>

That's a lot of clamps!

When I needed to laminate thin strips onto a board to create a matching "side
grain" I used thicker pieces of wood as sort of cauls so that I could use
fewer clamps. In this image I am laminating both edges of the wider board
with an ~1/8 strip. (laminate can be seen peeking out near the left most
clamp).

I covered the cauls with clear packing tape to prevent the clue from getting
on them.

Would that method have worked for you, eliminating the need for so many
clamps?

...snip...

>
> Sports etiquette question - Re: NFL Playoffs: Are you suppose to start
> drinking before the game starts or do you wait for the game to start, then
> start drinking? I've always been of the mind, if you're not doing the
> cooking, you can start drinking before the game starts. Go Saints!
>

What does the cooking or start of the game have to do with it? Start
drinking whenever the urge hits you. ;-) Go Bills!

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 11:10 AM

On 1/7/18 10:24 AM, Sonny wrote> 4 Pics of the roughed astragal. Still
need to do some finish
> sanding. Also, the T aspect is a tab thick, to fit between the
> doors. More/finish sanding is needed, there. Scroll right from
> Pic 1) Proposed profile, Pics 2 & 3) shaped, Pic 4) the length
> (82").
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/25688659518/in/dateposted-public/
>
>

I'm concerned about the thin section of the T.
The grain orientation makes it very easy to snap right off.
If you want to guard against that, you could easy cut the T off, cut a
slot unto the bulk of the astragal, and insert a strip of wood with the
grain running straight.

However, if the astragal is going to be glued permanently to one door,
it's probably not an issue.

Good work on it, it looks great.

--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

dx

"dadiOH"

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

07/01/2018 1:16 PM


"DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:29:43 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>
> ...snip..
>
>
>> I had to glue the cutoff back on, so now I have to wait, until tomorrow,
>> to circle saw the proper lines. Two pics- the stock and the glued
>> assembly:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680403097/in/dateposted-public/
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/39518294912/in/dateposted-public/
>>
>
> That's a lot of clamps!
>
> When I needed to laminate thin strips onto a board to create a matching
> "side
> grain" I used thicker pieces of wood as sort of cauls so that I could use
> fewer clamps. In this image I am laminating both edges of the wider board
> with an ~1/8 strip. (laminate can be seen peeking out near the left most
> clamp).
>
> I covered the cauls with clear packing tape to prevent the clue from
> getting
> on them.

For 1/8" or less, I just iron them on, no clamps needed.

dx

"dadiOH"

in reply to Sonny on 06/01/2018 8:29 PM

08/01/2018 7:11 AM


"DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 1:15:58 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
>> "DerbyDad03" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:29:43 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
>> >
>> > ...snip..
>> >
>> >
>> >> I had to glue the cutoff back on, so now I have to wait, until
>> >> tomorrow,
>> >> to circle saw the proper lines. Two pics- the stock and the glued
>> >> assembly:
>> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/24680403097/in/dateposted-public/
>> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/39518294912/in/dateposted-public/
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's a lot of clamps!
>> >
>> > When I needed to laminate thin strips onto a board to create a matching
>> > "side
>> > grain" I used thicker pieces of wood as sort of cauls so that I could
>> > use
>> > fewer clamps. In this image I am laminating both edges of the wider
>> > board
>> > with an ~1/8 strip. (laminate can be seen peeking out near the left
>> > most
>> > clamp).
>> >
>> > I covered the cauls with clear packing tape to prevent the clue from
>> > getting
>> > on them.
>>
>> For 1/8" or less, I just iron them on, no clamps needed.
>
> Iron them on with what? What adhesive?

White glue. It is thermoplastic.

Coat or or both surfaces, let dry, use iron at hottest setting, trim edges
when cool. I generally trim with a tiny plane, sometimes with a
four-in-hand file. Works fine, been doing it for more than 30 years.


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