Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:24:14 -0600 typed
in rec.woodworking the following:
>On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>Perhaps a stapler. Or a framing nail gun. The stapler would probably
>work best, you don't need a honking gun go shoot staples.
Or a roofing nailer - with the nails in coils. Smaller than the
honking 3" nailer. Not sure if the nails can be gotten in the size he
wants.
pyotr
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[email protected] on Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:37:16 -0500 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
>On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:22:51 -0800, pyotr filipivich
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:24:14 -0600 typed
>>in rec.woodworking the following:
>>>On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>>Perhaps a stapler. Or a framing nail gun. The stapler would probably
>>>work best, you don't need a honking gun go shoot staples.
>>
>> Or a roofing nailer - with the nails in coils. Smaller than the
>>honking 3" nailer. Not sure if the nails can be gotten in the size he
>>wants.
>
>Roofing nails have a big honking head, not the best for wood to wood.
>A siding/fencing nailer might work. Unless there is an aesthetic
>reason for rejecting staples, they'd be my choice for this
>application.
As someone else just observed - they do make nailers for 1-1/4"
nails.
Or staples.
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On 1/6/2018 10:11 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/5/18 4:45 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 1/5/2018 2:16 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:35 -0800 (PST)
>>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a
>>>>> bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head
>>>>> on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> palm nailer
>>>>
>>>> of course test first to get depth right
>>>>
>>>> if you never tried one you will wonder why if you do try one
>>>>
>>>> hf has them for 20 bucks
>>>
>>> Thanks, everyone! The palm nailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm going
>>> to try it.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Palm mailers work pretty well but just marginally faster than a hammer.
>
> Yeah, that's true. They're not for speed, they're for tight places.
>
>
Pretty darn good for Simpson hangers.
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Palm mailers work pretty well but just marginally faster than a hammer.
I was thinking the same thing... 3-4 penny nails typically take a tap and a
whack with a hammer to sink... One fall I drove thousands of 4d common nails
while building trusses for the top and sides of a gambrel roof. Even those
4d seldom took more than a tap and a whack or two.
With the palm nailer I've used it was a PITA to use short nails in some
situations... with crates they can probably be positioned such as to avoid
that issue.
Not sure how to define "bunch" of crates in regards to volume, but if it is
say 100 or more I'd get a good nailer. Bostich has both coil and strip
nailers that will handle 1 1/2" nails. The coil nailers requires fewer
reloads...
On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
Perhaps a stapler. Or a framing nail gun. The stapler would probably
work best, you don't need a honking gun go shoot staples.
On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>
Take a look at a narrow crown stapler. That's about the only thing that
I can think of that will give you a "head" and be in the proper size
range. Framing nailers would be way too big both in diameter and length
as they start,IIRC, at 2".
Look at crates and see how they are assembled. Chances are good you'll
see narrow crown staples used.
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:37:25 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] on Sat, 06 Jan 2018 09:37:16 -0500 typed in
>rec.woodworking the following:
>>On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:22:51 -0800, pyotr filipivich
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:24:14 -0600 typed
>>>in rec.woodworking the following:
>>>>On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps a stapler. Or a framing nail gun. The stapler would probably
>>>>work best, you don't need a honking gun go shoot staples.
>>>
>>> Or a roofing nailer - with the nails in coils. Smaller than the
>>>honking 3" nailer. Not sure if the nails can be gotten in the size he
>>>wants.
>>
>>Roofing nails have a big honking head, not the best for wood to wood.
>>A siding/fencing nailer might work. Unless there is an aesthetic
>>reason for rejecting staples, they'd be my choice for this
>>application.
>
> As someone else just observed - they do make nailers for 1-1/4"
>nails.
Yes, I have a PC finish nailer that will use up to 1-3/4" nails, IIRC.
Something like this one:
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-Pneumatic-16-Gauge-2-1-2-in-Nailer-Kit-FN250C/100672162>
> Or staples.
They wouldn't pull through and are available in this sort of length,
too.
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-Pneumatic-18-Gauge-1-1-2-in-Narrow-Crown-Stapler-Kit-NS150C/203555606>
On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:35 -0800 (PST)
> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a
> > bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head
> > on the nail. Any thoughts?
>
> palm nailer
>
> of course test first to get depth right
>
> if you never tried one you will wonder why if you do try one
>
> hf has them for 20 bucks
Thanks, everyone! The palm nailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm going to try it.
Mike
Box nail gun -some call it a fence gun. The ones with a coil of nails
on the gun...
Martin
On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
Michael <[email protected]> writes:
>On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:35 -0800 (PST)
>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a
>> > bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head
>> > on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>
>> palm nailer
>>
>> of course test first to get depth right
>>
>> if you never tried one you will wonder why if you do try one
>>
>> hf has them for 20 bucks
>
>Thanks, everyone! The palm nailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm going to try it.
>
>Mike
>
They're often not the panacea they appear to be, unfortunately,
especially with 16d fasteners.
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> on Sat, 6
Jan 2018 17:29:31 -0500 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
>"Leon" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>Palm mailers work pretty well but just marginally faster than a hammer.
>
>I was thinking the same thing... 3-4 penny nails typically take a tap and a
>whack with a hammer to sink... One fall I drove thousands of 4d common nails
>while building trusses for the top and sides of a gambrel roof. Even those
>4d seldom took more than a tap and a whack or two.
>
>With the palm nailer I've used it was a PITA to use short nails in some
>situations... with crates they can probably be positioned such as to avoid
>that issue.
>
>Not sure how to define "bunch" of crates in regards to volume, but if it is
>say 100 or more I'd get a good nailer. Bostich has both coil and strip
>nailers that will handle 1 1/2" nails. The coil nailers requires fewer
>reloads...
Always a good thing - unless you're looking for an excuse to get
coffee, have a smoke, skate. B-)
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2018 22:22:51 -0800, pyotr filipivich
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> on Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:24:14 -0600 typed
>in rec.woodworking the following:
>>On 1/5/2018 1:01 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>>Perhaps a stapler. Or a framing nail gun. The stapler would probably
>>work best, you don't need a honking gun go shoot staples.
>
> Or a roofing nailer - with the nails in coils. Smaller than the
>honking 3" nailer. Not sure if the nails can be gotten in the size he
>wants.
Roofing nails have a big honking head, not the best for wood to wood.
A siding/fencing nailer might work. Unless there is an aesthetic
reason for rejecting staples, they'd be my choice for this
application.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 17:29:31 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Leon" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>Palm mailers work pretty well but just marginally faster than a hammer.
>
>I was thinking the same thing... 3-4 penny nails typically take a tap and a
>whack with a hammer to sink... One fall I drove thousands of 4d common nails
>while building trusses for the top and sides of a gambrel roof. Even those
>4d seldom took more than a tap and a whack or two.
>
>With the palm nailer I've used it was a PITA to use short nails in some
>situations... with crates they can probably be positioned such as to avoid
>that issue.
A palm nailer would be my last choice. I'd think a hammer would be
faster, considering that the crate can be positioned in the best
position.
>Not sure how to define "bunch" of crates in regards to volume, but if it is
>say 100 or more I'd get a good nailer. Bostich has both coil and strip
>nailers that will handle 1 1/2" nails. The coil nailers requires fewer
>reloads...
Yes, but reloads take longer than they do with strips. There are a
lot of finishing nails or staples on a strip and reloading is a snap.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:35 -0800 (PST)
Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a
> bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head
> on the nail. Any thoughts?
palm nailer
of course test first to get depth right
if you never tried one you will wonder why if you do try one
hf has them for 20 bucks
On 1/5/18 4:45 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/5/2018 2:16 PM, Michael wrote:
>> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:35 -0800 (PST)
>>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a
>>>> bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head
>>>> on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> palm nailer
>>>
>>> of course test first to get depth right
>>>
>>> if you never tried one you will wonder why if you do try one
>>>
>>> hf has them for 20 bucks
>>
>> Thanks, everyone! The palm nailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm going
>> to try it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Palm mailers work pretty well but just marginally faster than a hammer.
Yeah, that's true. They're not for speed, they're for tight places.
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 12:16:47 -0800 (PST)
Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, everyone! The palm nailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm going
> to try it.
they are fun and everything will look like a nail to borrow that
old adage
thinking nails might not be the best way for crates but it depends
screws might be the better choice
depends on the usage for the crates
if they are a one time use crate for shipping nails are fine but
for multiple uses nails not so good
On 1/5/2018 12:01 PM, Michael wrote:
> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head on the nail. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
Don't see my earlier reply. I have two round head framing nailers that
easily shoot smaller ring nails. Since I have them, that's what I would
use.
On 1/5/2018 2:16 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 1:10:03 PM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:35 -0800 (PST)
>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a nail gun to shoot 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" nails to make a
>>> bunch of crates. I see a lot of guns for brads, but I want the head
>>> on the nail. Any thoughts?
>>
>> palm nailer
>>
>> of course test first to get depth right
>>
>> if you never tried one you will wonder why if you do try one
>>
>> hf has them for 20 bucks
>
> Thanks, everyone! The palm nailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm going to try it.
>
> Mike
>
Palm mailers work pretty well but just marginally faster than a hammer.