I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
JGS wrote:
> I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
> OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
> question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
> of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
> each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
> the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
> pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
I'd go with one of the tubing suggestions if it were me, but that would
leave the end un-capped, and that might not work.
If you really insist on using rod, you could do this with a floor model
drill press and a lot of care, I think. You'd probably need some extra
tall vise jaw extensions.
If you're married to the rod idea, I might go try some of my thoughts.
Otherwise save yourself from a lot of trouble and use tubing. If you can't
get a press fit on the tubing, you can always lock it on with a screw.
Or heck, how about going a different way entirely? I'll bet that would be
much easier to accomplish using some sort of metallic foil. Or even,
<gasp> gold paint.
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I can't thing of any suitable method for attaching these two materials.
Maybe some sort of double-sided screw (like the kind used to attach bun feet
to cases, etc.).
I think a better solution would be to use thin brass sheets, and wrap the
dowel with it, epoxying it in place. You could punch a disk to cover the
bottom of the dowel, too, and then use a file to chamfer the intersection
and take away sharp burrs. This is still probably a little bit of a tedious
process, but I think it will be more likely to result in success than trying
to attach the two rods end to end.
Mike
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"JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
> OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
> question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
> of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
> each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
> the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
> pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
>
> ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
>
Either that or how about some thin brass tubing - then just make a little
relief on the dowel to let it slip on the end.
Kind of like a ferell on a tool handle.
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I can't thing of any suitable method for attaching these two materials.
> Maybe some sort of double-sided screw (like the kind used to attach bun
feet
> to cases, etc.).
>
> I think a better solution would be to use thin brass sheets, and wrap the
> dowel with it, epoxying it in place. You could punch a disk to cover the
> bottom of the dowel, too, and then use a file to chamfer the intersection
> and take away sharp burrs. This is still probably a little bit of a
tedious
> process, but I think it will be more likely to result in success than
trying
> to attach the two rods end to end.
>
> Mike
>
> --
>
> There are no stupid questions.
> There are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
>
>
> "JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
> > OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
> > question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
> > of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
> > each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
> > the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
> > pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
> >
> > ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
> >
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
JGS <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
>OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
>question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
>of using metal epoxy and butt joining them
This might be too fragile.
>or drilling a small hole in
>each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
>the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
>pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
This sounds like an easy job for a small (machinist-type) lathe. If
the hole is a bit larger than the dowel to be inserted, that would both
provide space for glue and also allow for perfect alignment.
>ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
:-)
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Take a hardwood board about two inches wide, run a saw kerf about halfway
along its length. Now clamp the board to your drillpress table with the
hole through the table centered up, and bore a hole the size of your
wand/rod about 3/4" into the kerf. If you don't move things, and keep the
board firmly clamped, you can put a smaller bit in the press, run your wand
or brass up into the hole, and cross-clamp to close the kerf and hold the
wand/brass. Should give you centered holes for a piece of welding rod or
similar to serve as a dowel.
"Mike in Mystic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I can't thing of any suitable method for attaching these two materials.
> Maybe some sort of double-sided screw (like the kind used to attach bun
feet
> to cases, etc.).
>
> I think a better solution would be to use thin brass sheets, and wrap the
> dowel with it, epoxying it in place. You could punch a disk to cover the
> bottom of the dowel, too, and then use a file to chamfer the intersection
> and take away sharp burrs. This is still probably a little bit of a
tedious
> process, but I think it will be more likely to result in success than
trying
> to attach the two rods end to end.
>
> Mike
>
> --
>
> There are no stupid questions.
> There are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
>
>
> "JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
> > OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
> > question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
> > of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
> > each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
> > the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
> > pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
> >
> > ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
> >
>
>
use brass tubing 3/8 od. Cut the 3/8 dowel rod down at the end so that it
will almost fit into the brass tubing. Heat brass tubing to just under red
hot and force over end of dowel submerse in cold water. This forms a very
tight bond of metal to wood, might take a few tries to get it right but it
works for me every time.
"JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
> OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
> question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
> of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
> each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
> the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
> pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
>
> ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
>
Go to
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=30021&category=1,41504
If the link wraps, go to www.leevalley.com , click on item search, enter
FERRULE and you get a complete listing of brass ferrules from 0.312" to 1.5"
in diameter. To be elegant, turn down the end of your wand so that the
ferrule is flsuuh with the wood.
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"Sweet Sawdust" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> use brass tubing 3/8 od. Cut the 3/8 dowel rod down at the end so that it
> will almost fit into the brass tubing. Heat brass tubing to just under
red
> hot and force over end of dowel submerse in cold water. This forms a very
> tight bond of metal to wood, might take a few tries to get it right but it
> works for me every time.
> "JGS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I need to make a few magic wands. They are to be 15" long, about 3/8"
> > OD of maple dowel with about 1.5" of 3/8" brass rod at each end. My
> > question is how to attach the brass end pieces to the dowel. I thought
> > of using metal epoxy and butt joining them or drilling a small hole in
> > each piece, inserting a metal or wood dowel and epoxy. The problem with
> > the second method is getting both holes in exactly the centre of the
> > pieces. Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks JG
> >
> > ps- If only I had a working magic wand this would not be a problem
> >
>
>