"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have created for
> > training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the new
> > version is available for human children! Thank you for your service to
> > humanity!
>
> Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid Jerry. How
> dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
> He, and likely you, could use some sort of behavior program.
Why would you leave rpdb due to Jerry?
I don't know about you, but my keyboard works just fine...
The delete key is getting quite polished. <G>
I just mark his messages "read" on first scan thru the new
listings and ignore most of his posts....
Sheesh! :-)
C.
"Skip Middleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<_Sfeb.9255$gi2.1841@fed1read01>...
> These posts are completely off topic for rec.woodworking, rec.photo.digital
> and rec.photo.equipment.35mm. Please stop. I've requested you to do so
> several times, and to stop crossposting. Next step is to report you to your
> respective ISPs.
>
> --
> Skip Middleton
> www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
> "The Puppy Wizard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Carnivore269" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > "Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have
> created for
> > > > > training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the
> new
> > > > > version is available for human children! Thank you for your
> service to
> > > > > humanity!
> > > >
> > > > Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid
> Jerry. How
> > > > dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
> > > > He, and likely you, could use some sort of behavior program.
> > >
> > > Why would you leave rpdb due to Jerry?
> > > I don't know about you, but my keyboard works just fine...
> > > The delete key is getting quite polished. <G>
> > >
> > > I just mark his messages "read" on first scan thru the new
> > > listings and ignore most of his posts....
> > >
> > > Sheesh! :-)
> > >
> > > C.
> >
> >
> > HOWEDY Soup,
> >
> > "@d o g t v dot com" <""m i c h e ae l \"@d o g t v dot com">
> > wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > sighthounds etc. wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:56:36 -0400, "Tara O."
> <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >>Damn Gwen, don't mince words or anything.
> >
> > Right. She probably doesn't know what she's
> > sayin, HOWER dog lovers are havin a psychotic
> > reaction to The Puppy Wizard. That's what these
> > long bullshit threads are all abHOWET.
> >
> > > >> I will assume, from the above, that in your eyes,
> > > >> I am not trustworthy to rescue Boxers
> >
> > To say the least hat's correct, judging by your case
> > history in The Puppy Wizard's Archives.
> >
> > > >> or make decisions on who gets to adopt them...
> >
> > That's correct, judging by your case history in
> > The Puppy Wizard's Archives.
> >
> > > > having killed my own dog and all.
> >
> > INDEEDY. Cause you wouldn't stop jerking
> > and choking her on your pronged spiked pinch
> > choke collar and spraying IT with aversives and
> > lockin IT in a box.
> >
> > > > You're not the only one.
> >
> > Damned tootin. Most of HOWE Gang Of Lying Dog
> > Abusing Punk Thug Cowards are ACTIVE UNTREATED
> > MENTAL CASES who have killed their own dogs HOWETA
> > FEAR after they've HURT and INTIMIDATED their dogs
> > MOORE than anyWON could be expected to bear from
> > the person they LOVED THE MOST.
> >
> > Most of them have been VICTIMIZED by their parents.
> >
> > That's HOWE COME they should do the only honorable
> > thing left... under the circumstances. They've been lying
> > to themselves to save face from themselves. That's their
> > HUMAN NATURE.
> >
> > > > After numerous training classes, behavioral
> > > > consultations, and hundreds of dollars in vet bills,
> > > > I killed my Dalmatian several years ago due to
> > > > extreme dog-aggressiveness.
> >
> > Yeah. Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME you don't want
> > to BELIEVE The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
> > End Dog Training Method Manual Students like Nevyn
> > Valerie or Professora Daniel when THEY TELL YOU
> > they've CURED their dog's LONG TERM AGGRESSION
> > NEARLY INSTANTLY, FOR FREE, using The Puppy
> > Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
> > Manual, after WASTING 5 THOWESAND DOLLARS at
> > the veterinary behaviorists and seeing Purdue behavior
> > clinic and four trainers and followin ALL the information
> > from pryor dunbar dodman donaldson fogle and the
> > rest of the INCOMPTENT PET BEHAVIOR PROFESSIONALS.
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard CONSISTENTLY CURES ALL BEHAIVOR
> > PROBLEMS NEARLY INSTANTLY ALL OVER THE Whole
> > Wild World from settin right here, stark ravin nekkid.
> >
> > FOR FREE, goddamnit.
> >
> > Even The Puppy Wizard's CRIPPLED Students
> > are MOORE PROFICIENT than the VERY BEST
> > of the "EXXXPERTS."
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE on THAT.
> >
> > And yours and your kids, to boot, goddamnit.
> >
> > Cause THAT'S the Nature of this Beast. Failure
> > MEANS DEATH in the problem behavior BUSINESS.
> >
> > And The Puppy Wizard can do it AUTOMAGICKALLY,
> > from maybe up to a half mile away, using HIS Doggy
> > Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A
> > Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) Machine. GUARANTEED.
> >
> > > Did you have to pay for it,
> >
> > THAT'S a other reason HOWE COME HOWER DOG LOVERS
> > HATE The Puppy Wizard so bad they LIE and DISAVAIL
> > NEW READERS of the vital INFORMATION they NEED to
> > SAVE THEIR DOG'S LIFE.
> >
> > Look what these dog lovers did to Robert Crim after he
> > learned HOWE NOT TO KILL HIS NEXT DOG. They turned
> > on him like a pack of dogs scrappin after a bitch in heat.
> >
> > > or did the local Animal Protection League,
> >
> > Did you read the thread "shelter ringworm," Soup?
> > These DOG LOVERS are fixin to MURDER dogs
> > for RINGWORM!!! It's no worse than athlete's foot!
> >
> > > where you were board President while 70% of the
> > > animals coming in for rescue were being killed,
> >
> > And they BEG MONEY from J.Q. Pubic for THAT
> > withHOWET tellin them, to boot. And look at ed
> > williams of PET LOSS dot COIN! He makes his
> > livin off of DEAD DOGS. Can you GUESS HOWE
> > COME he's afraid for folks to learn HOWE NOT
> > to KILL their dogs, Soup? Hmm? You any good
> > at BUSINESS ECONOMICS? No WONder the
> > INDUSTRY is AFRAID to acknowledge us... it'd
> > be SUICIDE for them!
> >
> > > give you a freebie?
> >
> > kind2dogs sez "TOO MANY NO KILL SHELTERS"
> > and talks people HOWETA their dogs and accepts
> > a WEE BIT of MONEY for the favor, INSTEAD OF
> > TRAINING them usin The Puppy Wizard's FREE
> > WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> >
> > Who is doin who a favor here, Soup? Seems to
> > The Puppy Wizard these dog lovers are gettin
> > MONEY to TAKE a dog, and SELLIN IT to a
> > other person who can TOLERATE or AVOID the
> > problem. And if IT'S returned, they DHOWEBLE
> > UP on the action. That's better than freakin mafioso
> > business, ain't it, Soup?
> >
> > > > Either she was going to kill Tasha, my Siberian
> >
> > Like Nevyn's three y.o. pit bull X kelpie X bitch siblings.
> > Took Nevyn 23 DAYS to break their seriHOWES aggression
> > and have them workin off lead together in pubic...
> >
> > Even The Puppy Wizard will admit that's freakin AMAZIN.
> > Some Student's even call their NEAR INSTANT SUCCESS
> > a MIRACLE. The Puppy Wizard has people PRAYIN for HIM
> > all over the Whole Wild World cause HE'S save their dog's
> > lives and improve the quality of life of their entire family, and
> > broken the cycle of passin dHOWEN ABUSE through the generations.
> >
> > We ain't playin freakin games here Soup. We're
> > talkin LIFE or DEATH ISSUES. We've got some
> > very seriHOWES pathology goin dHOWEN
> > amongst HOWER shelter / rescue folks.
> >
> > The vast majority of REAL s/r folks are not be like
> > these guys. I've know some who were legit. These
> > guys are in it for their own fragile defective ego
> > gratification, weak fearful minds and to compensate
> > for their inferiority complexes.
> >
> > And don't FORGET, the WEE BIT of MONEY.
> >
> > > > with the rock steady temperament, or Tasha was
> > > > going to kill her, right in front of us.
> >
> > So these imbeciles stand there like big dumb
> > marlmalukes watchin for a fight to break HOWET.
> > They let their dogs fight it HOWET to make 'rank.'
> > They let their KATS train their dogs. When that
> > fails they KILL WON. They kill the "dominant" WON.
> > That's the WON who's MOST SCARED. That's what
> > DOMINANCE is. It's FEAR. The dogs are TERRIFIED
> > from getting jerked and choked on their pronged spiked
> > pinch choke and shock collars and their kats are attackin
> > cause the PEOPLE are GOIN NUTS.
> >
> > > >My DH's first dog, and still the canine love of his life.
> >
> > You mean the WON you MURDERED. You couldn't
> > GIVE IT AWAY??? Certainly noWON would BUY IT.
> > But MAYBE you could find a wino or sumpthin who
> > can't afford a dog and GIVE IT to them? Maybe even
> > give em a WEE BIT of MONEY to take IT off your hands?
> >
> > Or tie IT to a bench so someWON like Soup will
> > come by and give him a HOWES to live in.
> >
> > > > Good thing that Gwen is perfect
> >
> > gwen is a psycho.
> >
> > > >in her stewardship of her animals.
> >
> > She recently had a dog GET DEAD over a SHOCK
> > FENCE ACCIDENT. The REPLACEMENT puppy is
> > FIGHTING with her other dog who's DYIN of STRESS
> > INDUCED DIS-EASE, as are MANY of the other dogs
> > who've been gettin jerked and choked and shocked.
> >
> > Look at cate's Orson. Goin BLIND. 'It's PROGRESSIVE,
> > yet UNDIAGNOSABLE.' She's had Orson in REMEDIAL
> > OBEDIENCE for four years and STILL has behavior problems
> > particularly, POSSESSION AGGRESSION.
> >
> > Look at professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
> > 'NO!' into ITS face for 5 seconds and lock IT in a
> > box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer's Maxie
> > The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive
> > Masturbator, DYIN of STRESS INDUCED DIS-EASE.
> >
> > Charlie will get a thrill HOWETA this. professor SCRUFF
> > SHAKE's CURE for the recurrent UTI's is wiping Maxie's
> > tally whacker with a warm moist tHOWEL with Aloe gel,
> > UNKNOWINGLY, yet CONSEQUENTLY, mimicking
> > masturbation pryor to bedtime.
> >
> > This "urinary tract infection" treatmen consequently
> > sufficiently CALMS the dog dHOWEN and RELAXES,
> > makes him FRIENDLY, and he ain't had a case in six
> > months.
> >
> > Know what? If we did that treatment for most of the
> > "sick" dogs suffering every thing from seizures to
> > endocrine and myopathies and neuromyalgias, we'd
> > GET THE SAME SAME SAME SAME RESULTS,
> > cause the PROBLEM is NOT MEDICAL.
> >
> > The RESULTS will show 85% success, the same
> > same same same success rate they get with their
> > TRAINING. Of the 15% left over, those will be 100%
> > REHABILITATED using The Puppy Wizard's Ten Step
> > Rehabilitation Program... PROVING the connection
> > that FORCE TRAINING CAUSES DEADLY DIS-EASES,
> > I.e, The Goddamned Puppy Wizard SYNDROME.
> >
> > HOWE'S THAT hit you, Soup? Hit's Dr. Puppy Wizard
> > pretty goddamned good. But you know what? The Puppy
> > Wizard prefers The at the end of HIS handle. The universities
> > are NOT gonna BRIBE The Puppy Wizard to LAY OFF THEM.
> >
> > Even CLICKER training is NOT HARMLESS, Soup.
> > Withholding bribes to get the dog to "throw behaviors"
> > raises anxiety to the same same same same state of
> > mind to the level where OCD'S live. C/T training can
> > cause seizures light / shadow /tail chasing self mutilation
> > and even aggression.
> >
> > > Gwen didn't murder her own dog.
> >
> > Well Soup, her dogs have chosen a other course of
> > REACTION to The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. WON
> > recently had a TRAGICK ACCIDENT, a other is dog /
> > dog aggressive of her SICK DOG who's DYIN of degenerative
> > myopathy or sumpthin The can't even pronHOWENCE.
> >
> > gwen REFUSES to believe the EVIDENCE from UofOH
> > PROVING THE MECHANISM which CAUSES tellin the
> > dog NO an scruff shakin and lockin IT in a box, to cause
> > every thing from bladder stones and UTI's to OCD'S to
> > myopathies and myalgias and endocrine and even cataracts
> > and goddamned TOOTH DIS-EASE.
> >
> > > You and Tara O. did.
> >
> > INDEEDY. And the entire training and behavior industry
> > are unknowingly DOIN LIKEWIZE.
> >
> > > michael
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard will be submittin some STUFF
> > to the medical journals and them guys this week,
> > and will offer a "protocol" to follow. The puts protocol
> > in ""'s on accHOWENT of that's just the first page tellin
> > who and what, not the ROUTINE or METHOD to CURE
> > The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
> >
> > > live..
> >
> > INDEEDY.
> >
> > > dogtv.comn
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >
> >
> > > > Mustang Sally
> >
> > The dog killer:
> >
> > "I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
> > as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
> > for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
> > unwanted animals.
> >
> > This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
> > breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
> > to that problem," Mustang Sally.
> >
> > "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you and you
> > will
> > know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know
> > them, and what you do not know you will fear.
> >
> > What one fears, one destroys."
> > Chief Dan George
> >
> > Adapted with permission from his FREE copy
> > of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
> > End Dog Training Method Manual.
> >
> >
> > "It is by muteness that a dog becomes so
> > utterly beyond value."
> >
> > Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog
> > won't tell on you...
> >
> > "With him, words play no torturing tricks.., "
> > John Galsworthy.
> >
> > Their behaviors reflect our words, actions
> > and training quirks. Jerry HOWE.
> >
> > "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
> > can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> > ~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from
> > his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE Wits'
> > End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
> >
> >
> > All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
> > ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third,
> > it is accepted as being self-evident.
> > -Arthur Schopenhauer
> >
> > "Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
> > as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
> > enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
> > wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
> > perceives that the two are one knows the truth."
> >
> > "Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
> > indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
> > What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
> > hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
> > from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
> > the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
> > permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
> > End Dog Training Method manual.
> >
> > Force training JERRYIZES dogs, and GETS THEM DEAD.
> >
> > Every correction is like our dog lovers seeing a new post
> > from Jerry and every minute of crate anxiety is like reading
> > another "thanks Jerry, your method/machine saved my dog's
> > life" post from The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
> > Training Method Manual students...
> >
> > Now you know HOWE COME professor scruff shake's
> > little dog masturbates compulsively on his couch if he
> > doesn't get his five miles of road work every day.
> >
> > When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
> >
> > "I know that most men, including those at ease with
> > problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
> > even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
> > oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
> > have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
> > taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
> > thread, into the fabric of their lives."
> > -Leo Tolstoy-
> >
> > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
> > more complaints to my personal email than any other
> > controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
> >
> > CAVEAT
> > If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
> > would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
> > them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
> > dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
> > shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
> > punish your dog in any manner, that corrections OF ANY
> > KIND are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as
> > the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
> > can't train your dog to do what you want NEARLY
> > INSTANTLY, look for a trainer that knows HOWE.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jerry Howe,
> > Director of Research,
> > BIOSOUND Scientific
> > Director of Training,
> > Wits' End Dog Training
> > 1611 24th St
> > Orlando, FL 32805
> > Phone: 1-407-425-5092
> > Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
> > Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
> > http://www.doggydoright.com
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
> >
> > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
> > -Francis Bacon-
> >
> > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
> > problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
> > come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
> > should, please, not hit at all.
> > -Nietzsche-
> >
> > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
> > learned qualities.
> >
> > The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
> > centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
> > develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.
> >
> > The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
> > praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
> > timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
> > corrections, and scolding.
> >
> > -Jerry Howe-
> > The Puppy Wizzzard
> > <}TPW;~}>
> >
> > ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
> > ,-._,-,
> > V)"(V
> > (_o_) Have a great day!
> > / V)
> > (l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
> > oo-oo
> >
> >
> >
> >
Skip is a fucking dirty rat snitch!
Dear Mr Howe,
You are a great inspiration to all of us. Thank you for all of your
good work. My 4 year old Rottweiler has stopped crapping all over my
carpet now, thank to you Mr Puppy Wizard.
Thanks,
Arnold Sperminator
"The Puppy Wizard" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> HOWEDY skip,
>
> "Skip Middleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Cg_eb.11101$gi2.2502@fed1read01...
> >
> > Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on... ;-)
>
> Good for you, skip. NHOWE you don't ever got to even
> THINK abHOWET The Puppy Wizard. Ain't THAT nice?
>
> > -
> > Skip Middleton
> > www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
> > "Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > > It's more fun that getting all this crap. Fat lot of good
> it did to
> > > report him, though, apparently...
>
> Perhaps if you had a LEGITIMATE complaint they'd DO
> sumpthin, skip? Perhaps if you had some EVIDENCE of
> LIES or SLANDER they'd PULL The Puppy Wizard's plug?
>
> Go ahead and submit some QUOTES of The Puppy Wizard's
> LIES and THREATS and VULGARITY, skip. The WILL address
> those legitimate complaints, skip. TRUST The Puppy Wizard.
>
> > > Skip, I'm crossposting my reply because
>
> Because sinofabitch is a lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward, skip.
>
> > > I can't tell which group you're originating from- if by "him"
> you mean
> > > Jerry Howe aka the "Puppy Wizard", good luck.
>
> "Luck is for SUCKERS," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY.
>
> > > The rec.pets.dogs groups have been infested with him for
> almost six years-
>
> The Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED, EXXXPOSED, and DISCREDITED
> HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards and has PROVEN
> ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
>
> > > he's been booted from several ISPs,
>
> That's a LIE, sinofabitch. The Puppy Wizard has never been
> "booted."
>
> > > but always finds another provider.
>
> The Puppy Wizard has several ISP'S and changed some ISP'S
> to avail HISSELF of faster connections, sinofabitch. HOWEever,
> that's IRRELEVENT to the topic of BEHAVIORISM, ain't it.
>
> > > In case you hadn't already figured this out, he's an unstable
> person
>
> You mean, he trains dogs to heel by jerking and choking them on a
> pronged spiked pinch choke collar and when THAT fails after a half
> HOWER of PAIN FEAR and INTIMIDATION he FURTHER attacks
> them by throwing them to the grHOWEND an grHOWELING into
> their throats and biting them on their ears?:
>
> "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
> Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
> Side,
> Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
> And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
>
> > > who has anobsession with USENET in general
>
> The Puppy Wizard is only interested in identifying and EXXXPOSING
> you
> and your Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Coward pals,
> sinofabitch.
>
> > > and the dog groups in particular.
>
> The Puppy Wizard is only interested in BEHAIVOR, sinofabitch.
>
> > > In short, he's the USENET equivalent of those sad people you
> > > sometimes see ranting and raving on streetcorners, accosting
> > > passersby with their delusions about conspiracies and
> grandiose
> > > fantasies of their own importance.
>
> As opposed to you and your pals who WARN folks not to BELIEVE
> that dogs can be trained NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN
> or bribing and lockin them in boxes, sinofabitch?
>
> INDEED? The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
> Method Manual Students get 100% TOTAL SUCCESS, nearly INSTANTLY,
> sometimes FASTER... and REPORT their SUCCESS right here. You know,
> you call them LIARS and FORGERIES.
>
> > > Most of the rec.pets.dogs.xxx regulars have
>
> Been proven to be liars dog abusers and active MENTAL CASES.
>
> > > found it best to simply ignore and/or killfile him;
>
> You read The Puppy Wizard's posts first and relpy to them before
> the html is dry cause you're PARANOID.
>
> > > posts complaining to/about him only serve to feed his illness.
>
> So YOU IGNORE HIM.
>
> Good for you!
>
> HOWEDY Allan,
>
> "Allan Goodall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi, there.
> >
> > My wife and I had decided that we were going to get
> > a dog, a puppy. We are both dog people, but in this
> > case our youngest -- who has a dog at my wife's
> > ex-husband's home -- has been talking incessantly
> > about a dog. The last puppy I had was in a previous
> > marriage, 8 years ago, so I'm a little rusty. We had
> > hoped to have some time to research things more,
> > but last week we were the victims of a "drive-by dogging"
> > and ended up with a little mixed-breed bitch.
> >
> > The problem: she cries quite a bit in the middle of the night.
>
> Puppys and babies cry cause they got NEEDS, Allan.
>
> > We live in a small house,
>
> The Puppy Wizard grew up in a huge HOWES with
> a Great Dane kennel.
>
> > so it's not easy to segregate her where we won't hear her.
>
> That'd be NEGLECT, wouldn't it, Allan.
>
> > She's waking up about once every 45 minutes to 90
> > minutes, crying in her crate.
>
> That's on accHOWENT of she's UNHAPPY, Allan.
> You're gonna raise a VERY DISTURBED puppy.
>
> > At first we had it in a different room, but she woke up
> > and was very, very loud, waking up all of us.
>
> Your puppy AIN'T gonna develop to be a good dog
> if you NEGLECT and IGNORE her NEEDS, Allan.
>
> > We moved it into our room where she knows where
> > we are, but it just means that the quieter cries are
> > much closer to us.
>
> Your puppy is OBJECTING to being locked in a box, Allan.
> A mom dog wouldn't let her puppy cry for WON moment.
>
> > I've been getting up with her,
>
> Good.
>
> > but it's really taking its toll on both of us.
>
> Take her HOWETA the box and she'll be HAPPY
> and comfortable and she'll LOVE you. OtherWIZE,
> you'll teach her that YOU DON'T CARE abHOWET
> her and likeWIZE she WON'T CARE abHOWET you
> and your family.
>
> Have you been reading HOWER forum?
>
> The vast majority of posters here are LIARS, DOG
> ABUSERS, and MENTAL CASES.
>
> > This is our second week with her (and due to an
> > unfortunate bit of timing, she had to be boarded
> > at the vet's over the weekend;
>
> The boarding is not the same as being NEGLECTED
> at her HOWES with you there. THAT'S CRUELTY, Allan.
>
> > not a bad thing,
>
> Right. The boarding is DIFFERENT.
>
> > really, as they were able to deworm her and fix up some
> > other problems), and so far neither of us have had much
> > of a good night's sleep.
>
> You're gonna have a very difficult dog, like nessa and
> leah and liea and marcel and all the rest of HOWER
> DOG ABUSERS, LIARS, and MENTAL CASES got.
>
> > I realize she doesn't have any bladder control,
>
> That too, is on accHOWENT of the crate.
>
> > so getting up to let her out isn't a big deal.
>
> Good. But that's gonna train IT to cry to go play...
>
> > The problem is that I think half the time she is just not
> > tired enough,
>
> No. She's ANXIHOWES because of NEGLECT being
> locked in the box.
>
> > and the last time she wakes up it's obvious she just
> > wants to play.
>
> Catch-22, eh Allan?
>
> > Can anyone give us suggestions,
>
> You're askin LIARS, DOG ABUSERS, and MENTAL
> CASES for help with the same same same same
> problems THEY GOT.
>
> > other than just persevering?
>
> You mean, IGNORING your pup and allHOWEING
> IT to cry and find HOWET YOU DON'T CARE?
>
> > I know if we let her out of her crate and let her sleep
> > on the bed, she'd get us up to go outside and not much
> > more than that, but that means we'd have to let her sleep
> > in the bed with us for the rest of her life!
>
> No Allan. That's only a problem if you don't know
> HOWE to TRAIN a dog. HOWER DOG LOVERS
> are AFRAID of behaviors cause they got NO METHOD
> to TRAIN their dogs. That's HOWE COME they jerk
> and choke and shock and spray aversives in their faces
> and lock them in boxes...
>
> > We don't want to go there.
>
> You will, cause every thing you're doin is makin
> your dog a MENTAL CASE. That's gonna turn
> her into a PHYSICALLY ILL dog, as so many of
> HOWER dog lovers dogs have got STRESS
> INDUCED DIS-EASES.
>
> > I plan to try something tonight, taking her for a long
> > walk before we go to bed, which should help.
>
> No, that ain't gonna help, Allan. Your pup wants YOU,
> not a walk, not a kong toy filled with peanut butter.
>
> > Anyone have some suggestions?
>
> Yeah... either comit to raising your puppy pupperly
> or GET RID of IT before you end up KILLIN IT.
>
> > Any help would be appreciated.
>
> You'll get all the INFORMATION you need in your
> FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
> Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
>
> > Allan Goodall
>
> Here's the LIARS and DOG ABUSERS and MENTAL
> CASES you're askin for help, Allan.
>
> Can you tell the TRUTH from a LIE?:
>
> > > > Jerome Bigge writes:
> > > > I do know that hitting, hurting
> > > > your dog will often make the
> > > > dog either aggressive or a fear
> > > > biter, neither of which we want to do.
>
> And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
> This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
>
> > > And neither does anyone else,
> > > Jerome. No matter
> > > what Jerry Howe states.
>
> "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
> Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
> A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
> TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
> 33 Years Experience.
>
> You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
> regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
> Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
>
> Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
> that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?
>
> > > You're scary Marilyn.
>
> > > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
> > > individual. I feel very sorry for her
> > > and her family.
>
> "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
> Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
> Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
> Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
> You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
> Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
>
> > > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> > > doubt, please provide a quote (an
> > > original quote, not from one of Jerry
> > > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> > > shows a regular poster promoting or
> > > using an abusive form of training.
>
> BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
>
> > > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
>
> "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
> Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
> Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
> Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
> The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
> mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
>
> You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
> MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
>
> "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
> A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
> Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
> Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
> Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
>
> You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
> SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
> is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
>
> "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
> Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
> Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
> But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
> "Courteous Canine."
>
> You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
> is COURTEOUS?
>
> "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
> your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
> as possible. What does this mean?"
>
> Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
>
> "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
> one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
> won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue
> your
> normal behavior."
>
> You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
>
> --Mike Dufort
> author of the zero selling book
> "Courteous Canines"
>
> You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
>
> Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
> suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
>
> Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
>
> "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
> Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
> Side,
> Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
> And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
>
> Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
>
> And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
> "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
> something you twisted out of context,
> because you are full of bizarro manure."
>
> "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
> helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
> Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
> you to progress to striking them more
> sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
> expert trainer.
>
> You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
> a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
>
> "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
> Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
> With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
> discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
>
> Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
> their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
> HURT THEIR DOGS?
>
> "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
> gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
> rump with a training stick while holding him partially
> off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
> to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
>
> The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
> to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
>
> We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
>
> terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
> "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
> things is something you twisted out of
> context, because you are full of bizarro
> manure."
>
> Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
> chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all
> over
> it like a raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his
> ears, or
> leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in
> the
> snout with the heel of your palm.
>
> "BethF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > [email protected] (Leah) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > > > >"brianev" [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > > do with their dogs.
>
> > > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > > dogs are lies.
>
> > > > All of it. Every last bit.
>
> > > All of it?
>
> > > Ear pinching?
>
> > > Shock collars?
>
> > > Spiked chokers?
>
> > > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > > Howe does in his accusing of them.
> :
> > Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
> > Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> > would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> > killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> > let alone respond to them.
>
> "Rocky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
> > > When you compare using sound and
> > > praise to solve a problem with using
> > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > > how can you criticize the use of sound?
>
> > There's nothing more to be said, then.
> > You've made up your mind.
>
> > But you've impressed me by mentioning
> > that you're a professor with 30 years of
> > experience.
>
> > So, can you cite some examples of
> > people recommending "shock collars,
> > hanging, and punishment"?
>
> BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
>
> > --
> > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
>
> You think matty's playin with a full goddamned deck?
>
> matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
>
> Isn't that true, Marilyn?
>
> Of course not, but THIS IS:
>
> "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
>
> "Marshall Dermer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > >Di,
>
> > I don't believe you mentioned a particular
> > kind of training. If you are interested in
> > training retrieval behavior than do
> > consider our own Amy Dahl's:
>
> > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
> > Well-Mannered, Obedient and
> > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
> > Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
>
> You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
> proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
>
> "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
> Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
> Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
> Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
>
> LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
> mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
> a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
> CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
>
> "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
> beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
> a good working dog by making them unhapper,
> fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
>
> DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
>
> > just $17.95 at Amazon.com.
>
> > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> > few regulars here who are either ill-
> > tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
> > --Marshall
>
> Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
> STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
> professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
>
> amy lying frosty dahl continues:
>
> "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
> we have trained require much more
> frequent and heavy application of pressure
> (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
>
> This is continued resistance to your
> increasing authority, and the job is
> not done until it is overcome
>
> Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
> wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
> less tractable dogs may require you to
> progress to striking them more sharply"
>
> BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
>
> "Try pinching the ear between the metal
> casing and the collar, even the buckle on
> the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
> give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
> direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
>
> OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
>
> "You can press the dog's ear with a
> shotshell instead of your thumb even
> get a studded collar and pinch the ear
> against that Make the dog's need to stop
> the pinching so urgent that resisting your
> will fades in importance.
>
> CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
> Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
> using the stick and no ear pinch.
>
> When the dog is digging out to beat the
> stick and seems totally reliable without
> any ear pinch, you are finished
>
> This is continued resistance to your
> increasing authority, and the job is
> not done until it is overcome"
>
> If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
> under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
>
> (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
> because the ear is getting tender, or the
> dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
> frosty dahl.
>
> "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
> professora gingold.
>
> From: Marshall Dermer ([email protected])
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >> -snip headers etc.
>
> >> Yes. you're right, I really should find
> >> the book.. they don't have these books
> >> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
> >> do you find Koehler?
>
> > I got a nice large print copy from
> > Amazon.com
>
> >Richard
>
> Please try Powell's Books in Portland
> Oregon. Their URL is:
>
> http://www.powells.com/
>
> Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
> new and used books on its shelves. You
> can order books via e-email.
>
> Koehler Method Of Dog
> Training
> by Koehler, W R
> Published by HOWELL BOOK
> HOUSE (0876056575,
>
> ========================================================
>
> Here's some quotes and some methods right
> outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
> into its
> face for 5
> seconds:"
>
> "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
> Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
>
> Hanging
>
> "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar and leash are
> more
> than adequate for any jerk or strain that the dog's most frantic
> actions
> could cause. Then he starts to work the dog deliberately
> and fairly to the point where the dog makes his grab.
>
> Before the teeth have reached their target, the dog, weight
> permitting, is jerked from the ground.
>
> As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems
> the dog is suspended in mid-air.
>
> However, to let the biting dog recover
> his footing while he still had the strength
> to renew the attack would be cruelty.
>
> The only justifiable course is to hold him
> suspended until he has neither the strength
> nor inclination to renew the fight.
>
> When finally it is obvious that he is
> physically incapable of expressing his
> resentment and is lowered to the ground,
> he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
> few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
> over on his side.
>
> The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
> on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
> let it alarm you
>
> THE REAL "HOOD"
>
> "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
> regard the foregoing types of protest as
> "kid stuff" and would express his
> resentment of your efforts by biting,
> your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
>
> "Professional trainers often get these
> extreme problems. Nearly always the
> "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
> person who, by avoiding situations that
> the dog might resent, has nurtured the
> seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
> the resultant growth with under correction.
>
> When these people reap their inevitable
> and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
> ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
> trainer" whose advice they may have
> once rejected because it was incompatible
> with the sugary droolings of mealy-
> mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
> and dog psychologists who, by the
> broken skins and broken hearts their
> misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
> of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
> since the dawn of time.
>
> "With more genuine compassion for the
> biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
> by those who are "too kind" to make a
> correction and certainly with more disregard
> for his safety, the professional trainer
> morally feels obligated to perform a "major
> operation."
>
> "Since we are presently concerned with
> the dog that bites in resentment of the
> demands of training, we will set our
> example in that situation. (In a later
> chapter we will deal with the with the
> much easier problem of the dog that
> bites someone other than his master."
>
> Are we havin FUN yet?
>
> Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
>
> The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have created for
> > training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the new
> > version is available for human children! Thank you for your service to
> > humanity!
>
> Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid Jerry. How
> dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
> He, and likely you, could use some sort of behavior program.
Hey...Jerry is a great guy. He provides and invaluable service to Usenet!
"Carnivore269" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have
created for
> > > training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the
new
> > > version is available for human children! Thank you for your
service to
> > > humanity!
> >
> > Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid
Jerry. How
> > dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
> > He, and likely you, could use some sort of behavior program.
>
> Why would you leave rpdb due to Jerry?
> I don't know about you, but my keyboard works just fine...
> The delete key is getting quite polished. <G>
>
> I just mark his messages "read" on first scan thru the new
> listings and ignore most of his posts....
>
> Sheesh! :-)
>
> C.
HOWEDY Soup,
"@d o g t v dot com" <""m i c h e ae l \"@d o g t v dot com">
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> sighthounds etc. wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:56:36 -0400, "Tara O."
<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Damn Gwen, don't mince words or anything.
Right. She probably doesn't know what she's
sayin, HOWER dog lovers are havin a psychotic
reaction to The Puppy Wizard. That's what these
long bullshit threads are all abHOWET.
> >> I will assume, from the above, that in your eyes,
> >> I am not trustworthy to rescue Boxers
To say the least hat's correct, judging by your case
history in The Puppy Wizard's Archives.
> >> or make decisions on who gets to adopt them...
That's correct, judging by your case history in
The Puppy Wizard's Archives.
> > having killed my own dog and all.
INDEEDY. Cause you wouldn't stop jerking
and choking her on your pronged spiked pinch
choke collar and spraying IT with aversives and
lockin IT in a box.
> > You're not the only one.
Damned tootin. Most of HOWE Gang Of Lying Dog
Abusing Punk Thug Cowards are ACTIVE UNTREATED
MENTAL CASES who have killed their own dogs HOWETA
FEAR after they've HURT and INTIMIDATED their dogs
MOORE than anyWON could be expected to bear from
the person they LOVED THE MOST.
Most of them have been VICTIMIZED by their parents.
That's HOWE COME they should do the only honorable
thing left... under the circumstances. They've been lying
to themselves to save face from themselves. That's their
HUMAN NATURE.
> > After numerous training classes, behavioral
> > consultations, and hundreds of dollars in vet bills,
> > I killed my Dalmatian several years ago due to
> > extreme dog-aggressiveness.
Yeah. Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME you don't want
to BELIEVE The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Students like Nevyn
Valerie or Professora Daniel when THEY TELL YOU
they've CURED their dog's LONG TERM AGGRESSION
NEARLY INSTANTLY, FOR FREE, using The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual, after WASTING 5 THOWESAND DOLLARS at
the veterinary behaviorists and seeing Purdue behavior
clinic and four trainers and followin ALL the information
from pryor dunbar dodman donaldson fogle and the
rest of the INCOMPTENT PET BEHAVIOR PROFESSIONALS.
The Puppy Wizard CONSISTENTLY CURES ALL BEHAIVOR
PROBLEMS NEARLY INSTANTLY ALL OVER THE Whole
Wild World from settin right here, stark ravin nekkid.
FOR FREE, goddamnit.
Even The Puppy Wizard's CRIPPLED Students
are MOORE PROFICIENT than the VERY BEST
of the "EXXXPERTS."
The Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE on THAT.
And yours and your kids, to boot, goddamnit.
Cause THAT'S the Nature of this Beast. Failure
MEANS DEATH in the problem behavior BUSINESS.
And The Puppy Wizard can do it AUTOMAGICKALLY,
from maybe up to a half mile away, using HIS Doggy
Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A
Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) Machine. GUARANTEED.
> Did you have to pay for it,
THAT'S a other reason HOWE COME HOWER DOG LOVERS
HATE The Puppy Wizard so bad they LIE and DISAVAIL
NEW READERS of the vital INFORMATION they NEED to
SAVE THEIR DOG'S LIFE.
Look what these dog lovers did to Robert Crim after he
learned HOWE NOT TO KILL HIS NEXT DOG. They turned
on him like a pack of dogs scrappin after a bitch in heat.
> or did the local Animal Protection League,
Did you read the thread "shelter ringworm," Soup?
These DOG LOVERS are fixin to MURDER dogs
for RINGWORM!!! It's no worse than athlete's foot!
> where you were board President while 70% of the
> animals coming in for rescue were being killed,
And they BEG MONEY from J.Q. Pubic for THAT
withHOWET tellin them, to boot. And look at ed
williams of PET LOSS dot COIN! He makes his
livin off of DEAD DOGS. Can you GUESS HOWE
COME he's afraid for folks to learn HOWE NOT
to KILL their dogs, Soup? Hmm? You any good
at BUSINESS ECONOMICS? No WONder the
INDUSTRY is AFRAID to acknowledge us... it'd
be SUICIDE for them!
> give you a freebie?
kind2dogs sez "TOO MANY NO KILL SHELTERS"
and talks people HOWETA their dogs and accepts
a WEE BIT of MONEY for the favor, INSTEAD OF
TRAINING them usin The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
Who is doin who a favor here, Soup? Seems to
The Puppy Wizard these dog lovers are gettin
MONEY to TAKE a dog, and SELLIN IT to a
other person who can TOLERATE or AVOID the
problem. And if IT'S returned, they DHOWEBLE
UP on the action. That's better than freakin mafioso
business, ain't it, Soup?
> > Either she was going to kill Tasha, my Siberian
Like Nevyn's three y.o. pit bull X kelpie X bitch siblings.
Took Nevyn 23 DAYS to break their seriHOWES aggression
and have them workin off lead together in pubic...
Even The Puppy Wizard will admit that's freakin AMAZIN.
Some Student's even call their NEAR INSTANT SUCCESS
a MIRACLE. The Puppy Wizard has people PRAYIN for HIM
all over the Whole Wild World cause HE'S save their dog's
lives and improve the quality of life of their entire family, and
broken the cycle of passin dHOWEN ABUSE through the generations.
We ain't playin freakin games here Soup. We're
talkin LIFE or DEATH ISSUES. We've got some
very seriHOWES pathology goin dHOWEN
amongst HOWER shelter / rescue folks.
The vast majority of REAL s/r folks are not be like
these guys. I've know some who were legit. These
guys are in it for their own fragile defective ego
gratification, weak fearful minds and to compensate
for their inferiority complexes.
And don't FORGET, the WEE BIT of MONEY.
> > with the rock steady temperament, or Tasha was
> > going to kill her, right in front of us.
So these imbeciles stand there like big dumb
marlmalukes watchin for a fight to break HOWET.
They let their dogs fight it HOWET to make 'rank.'
They let their KATS train their dogs. When that
fails they KILL WON. They kill the "dominant" WON.
That's the WON who's MOST SCARED. That's what
DOMINANCE is. It's FEAR. The dogs are TERRIFIED
from getting jerked and choked on their pronged spiked
pinch choke and shock collars and their kats are attackin
cause the PEOPLE are GOIN NUTS.
> >My DH's first dog, and still the canine love of his life.
You mean the WON you MURDERED. You couldn't
GIVE IT AWAY??? Certainly noWON would BUY IT.
But MAYBE you could find a wino or sumpthin who
can't afford a dog and GIVE IT to them? Maybe even
give em a WEE BIT of MONEY to take IT off your hands?
Or tie IT to a bench so someWON like Soup will
come by and give him a HOWES to live in.
> > Good thing that Gwen is perfect
gwen is a psycho.
> >in her stewardship of her animals.
She recently had a dog GET DEAD over a SHOCK
FENCE ACCIDENT. The REPLACEMENT puppy is
FIGHTING with her other dog who's DYIN of STRESS
INDUCED DIS-EASE, as are MANY of the other dogs
who've been gettin jerked and choked and shocked.
Look at cate's Orson. Goin BLIND. 'It's PROGRESSIVE,
yet UNDIAGNOSABLE.' She's had Orson in REMEDIAL
OBEDIENCE for four years and STILL has behavior problems
particularly, POSSESSION AGGRESSION.
Look at professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
'NO!' into ITS face for 5 seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer's Maxie
The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive
Masturbator, DYIN of STRESS INDUCED DIS-EASE.
Charlie will get a thrill HOWETA this. professor SCRUFF
SHAKE's CURE for the recurrent UTI's is wiping Maxie's
tally whacker with a warm moist tHOWEL with Aloe gel,
UNKNOWINGLY, yet CONSEQUENTLY, mimicking
masturbation pryor to bedtime.
This "urinary tract infection" treatmen consequently
sufficiently CALMS the dog dHOWEN and RELAXES,
makes him FRIENDLY, and he ain't had a case in six
months.
Know what? If we did that treatment for most of the
"sick" dogs suffering every thing from seizures to
endocrine and myopathies and neuromyalgias, we'd
GET THE SAME SAME SAME SAME RESULTS,
cause the PROBLEM is NOT MEDICAL.
The RESULTS will show 85% success, the same
same same same success rate they get with their
TRAINING. Of the 15% left over, those will be 100%
REHABILITATED using The Puppy Wizard's Ten Step
Rehabilitation Program... PROVING the connection
that FORCE TRAINING CAUSES DEADLY DIS-EASES,
I.e, The Goddamned Puppy Wizard SYNDROME.
HOWE'S THAT hit you, Soup? Hit's Dr. Puppy Wizard
pretty goddamned good. But you know what? The Puppy
Wizard prefers The at the end of HIS handle. The universities
are NOT gonna BRIBE The Puppy Wizard to LAY OFF THEM.
Even CLICKER training is NOT HARMLESS, Soup.
Withholding bribes to get the dog to "throw behaviors"
raises anxiety to the same same same same state of
mind to the level where OCD'S live. C/T training can
cause seizures light / shadow /tail chasing self mutilation
and even aggression.
> Gwen didn't murder her own dog.
Well Soup, her dogs have chosen a other course of
REACTION to The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. WON
recently had a TRAGICK ACCIDENT, a other is dog /
dog aggressive of her SICK DOG who's DYIN of degenerative
myopathy or sumpthin The can't even pronHOWENCE.
gwen REFUSES to believe the EVIDENCE from UofOH
PROVING THE MECHANISM which CAUSES tellin the
dog NO an scruff shakin and lockin IT in a box, to cause
every thing from bladder stones and UTI's to OCD'S to
myopathies and myalgias and endocrine and even cataracts
and goddamned TOOTH DIS-EASE.
> You and Tara O. did.
INDEEDY. And the entire training and behavior industry
are unknowingly DOIN LIKEWIZE.
> michael
The Puppy Wizard will be submittin some STUFF
to the medical journals and them guys this week,
and will offer a "protocol" to follow. The puts protocol
in ""'s on accHOWENT of that's just the first page tellin
who and what, not the ROUTINE or METHOD to CURE
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
> live..
INDEEDY.
> dogtv.comn
The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >
> > Mustang Sally
The dog killer:
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.
"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you and you
will
know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know
them, and what you do not know you will fear.
What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George
Adapted with permission from his FREE copy
of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so
utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog
won't tell on you...
"With him, words play no torturing tricks.., "
John Galsworthy.
Their behaviors reflect our words, actions
and training quirks. Jerry HOWE.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from
his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third,
it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer
"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
perceives that the two are one knows the truth."
"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method manual.
Force training JERRYIZES dogs, and GETS THEM DEAD.
Every correction is like our dog lovers seeing a new post
from Jerry and every minute of crate anxiety is like reading
another "thanks Jerry, your method/machine saved my dog's
life" post from The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual students...
Now you know HOWE COME professor scruff shake's
little dog masturbates compulsively on his couch if he
doesn't get his five miles of road work every day.
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
"I know that most men, including those at ease with
problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Leo Tolstoy-
Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
more complaints to my personal email than any other
controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
CAVEAT
If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
punish your dog in any manner, that corrections OF ANY
KIND are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as
the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
can't train your dog to do what you want NEARLY
INSTANTLY, look for a trainer that knows HOWE.
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
http://www.doggydoright.com
The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-
There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-
The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities.
The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.
The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
corrections, and scolding.
-Jerry Howe-
The Puppy Wizzzard
<}TPW;~}>
ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
oo-oo
Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on... ;-)
--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
"Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > It's more fun that getting all this crap. Fat lot of good it did to
> report
> > him, though, apparently...
>
> Skip, I'm crossposting my reply because I can't tell which group you're
> originating from- if by "him" you mean Jerry Howe aka the "Puppy Wizard",
> good luck.
> The rec.pets.dogs groups have been infested with him for almost six
years-
> he's been booted from several ISPs, but always finds another provider. In
> case you hadn't already figured this out, he's an unstable person who has
an
> obsession with USENET in general and the dog groups in particular.
> In short, he's the USENET equivalent of those sad people you sometimes
see
> ranting and raving on streetcorners, accosting passersby with their
> delusions about conspiracies and grandiose fantasies of their own
> importance.
> Most of the rec.pets.dogs.xxx regulars have found it best to simply
ignore
> and/or killfile him; posts complaining to/about him only serve to feed his
> illness.
>
>
plonk plonk plonk
--
David Sweeney
STI
QK9SARG
"Send Seek Find"
www.qk9sarg.org
www.qk9sarg.org
"The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dear Mr Howe,
>
> You are a great inspiration to all of us. Thank you for all of your
> good work. My 4 year old Rottweiler has stopped crapping all over my
> carpet now, thank to you Mr Puppy Wizard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arnold Sperminator
>
>
>
> "The Puppy Wizard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > HOWEDY skip,
> >
> > "Skip Middleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:Cg_eb.11101$gi2.2502@fed1read01...
> > >
> > > Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on... ;-)
> >
> > Good for you, skip. NHOWE you don't ever got to even
> > THINK abHOWET The Puppy Wizard. Ain't THAT nice?
> >
> > > -
> > > Skip Middleton
> > > www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
> > > "Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > > > It's more fun that getting all this crap. Fat lot of good
> > it did to
> > > > report him, though, apparently...
> >
> > Perhaps if you had a LEGITIMATE complaint they'd DO
> > sumpthin, skip? Perhaps if you had some EVIDENCE of
> > LIES or SLANDER they'd PULL The Puppy Wizard's plug?
> >
> > Go ahead and submit some QUOTES of The Puppy Wizard's
> > LIES and THREATS and VULGARITY, skip. The WILL address
> > those legitimate complaints, skip. TRUST The Puppy Wizard.
> >
> > > > Skip, I'm crossposting my reply because
> >
> > Because sinofabitch is a lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward, skip.
> >
> > > > I can't tell which group you're originating from- if by "him"
> > you mean
> > > > Jerry Howe aka the "Puppy Wizard", good luck.
> >
> > "Luck is for SUCKERS," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY.
> >
> > > > The rec.pets.dogs groups have been infested with him for
> > almost six years-
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED, EXXXPOSED, and DISCREDITED
> > HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards and has PROVEN
> > ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
> >
> > > > he's been booted from several ISPs,
> >
> > That's a LIE, sinofabitch. The Puppy Wizard has never been
> > "booted."
> >
> > > > but always finds another provider.
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard has several ISP'S and changed some ISP'S
> > to avail HISSELF of faster connections, sinofabitch. HOWEever,
> > that's IRRELEVENT to the topic of BEHAVIORISM, ain't it.
> >
> > > > In case you hadn't already figured this out, he's an unstable
> > person
> >
> > You mean, he trains dogs to heel by jerking and choking them on a
> > pronged spiked pinch choke collar and when THAT fails after a half
> > HOWER of PAIN FEAR and INTIMIDATION he FURTHER attacks
> > them by throwing them to the grHOWEND an grHOWELING into
> > their throats and biting them on their ears?:
> >
> > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
> > Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
> > Side,
> > Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
> > And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
> >
> > > > who has anobsession with USENET in general
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard is only interested in identifying and EXXXPOSING
> > you
> > and your Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Coward pals,
> > sinofabitch.
> >
> > > > and the dog groups in particular.
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard is only interested in BEHAIVOR, sinofabitch.
> >
> > > > In short, he's the USENET equivalent of those sad people you
> > > > sometimes see ranting and raving on streetcorners, accosting
> > > > passersby with their delusions about conspiracies and
> > grandiose
> > > > fantasies of their own importance.
> >
> > As opposed to you and your pals who WARN folks not to BELIEVE
> > that dogs can be trained NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN
> > or bribing and lockin them in boxes, sinofabitch?
> >
> > INDEED? The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
> > Method Manual Students get 100% TOTAL SUCCESS, nearly INSTANTLY,
> > sometimes FASTER... and REPORT their SUCCESS right here. You know,
> > you call them LIARS and FORGERIES.
> >
> > > > Most of the rec.pets.dogs.xxx regulars have
> >
> > Been proven to be liars dog abusers and active MENTAL CASES.
> >
> > > > found it best to simply ignore and/or killfile him;
> >
> > You read The Puppy Wizard's posts first and relpy to them before
> > the html is dry cause you're PARANOID.
> >
> > > > posts complaining to/about him only serve to feed his illness.
> >
> > So YOU IGNORE HIM.
> >
> > Good for you!
> >
> > HOWEDY Allan,
> >
> > "Allan Goodall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi, there.
> > >
> > > My wife and I had decided that we were going to get
> > > a dog, a puppy. We are both dog people, but in this
> > > case our youngest -- who has a dog at my wife's
> > > ex-husband's home -- has been talking incessantly
> > > about a dog. The last puppy I had was in a previous
> > > marriage, 8 years ago, so I'm a little rusty. We had
> > > hoped to have some time to research things more,
> > > but last week we were the victims of a "drive-by dogging"
> > > and ended up with a little mixed-breed bitch.
> > >
> > > The problem: she cries quite a bit in the middle of the night.
> >
> > Puppys and babies cry cause they got NEEDS, Allan.
> >
> > > We live in a small house,
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard grew up in a huge HOWES with
> > a Great Dane kennel.
> >
> > > so it's not easy to segregate her where we won't hear her.
> >
> > That'd be NEGLECT, wouldn't it, Allan.
> >
> > > She's waking up about once every 45 minutes to 90
> > > minutes, crying in her crate.
> >
> > That's on accHOWENT of she's UNHAPPY, Allan.
> > You're gonna raise a VERY DISTURBED puppy.
> >
> > > At first we had it in a different room, but she woke up
> > > and was very, very loud, waking up all of us.
> >
> > Your puppy AIN'T gonna develop to be a good dog
> > if you NEGLECT and IGNORE her NEEDS, Allan.
> >
> > > We moved it into our room where she knows where
> > > we are, but it just means that the quieter cries are
> > > much closer to us.
> >
> > Your puppy is OBJECTING to being locked in a box, Allan.
> > A mom dog wouldn't let her puppy cry for WON moment.
> >
> > > I've been getting up with her,
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > but it's really taking its toll on both of us.
> >
> > Take her HOWETA the box and she'll be HAPPY
> > and comfortable and she'll LOVE you. OtherWIZE,
> > you'll teach her that YOU DON'T CARE abHOWET
> > her and likeWIZE she WON'T CARE abHOWET you
> > and your family.
> >
> > Have you been reading HOWER forum?
> >
> > The vast majority of posters here are LIARS, DOG
> > ABUSERS, and MENTAL CASES.
> >
> > > This is our second week with her (and due to an
> > > unfortunate bit of timing, she had to be boarded
> > > at the vet's over the weekend;
> >
> > The boarding is not the same as being NEGLECTED
> > at her HOWES with you there. THAT'S CRUELTY, Allan.
> >
> > > not a bad thing,
> >
> > Right. The boarding is DIFFERENT.
> >
> > > really, as they were able to deworm her and fix up some
> > > other problems), and so far neither of us have had much
> > > of a good night's sleep.
> >
> > You're gonna have a very difficult dog, like nessa and
> > leah and liea and marcel and all the rest of HOWER
> > DOG ABUSERS, LIARS, and MENTAL CASES got.
> >
> > > I realize she doesn't have any bladder control,
> >
> > That too, is on accHOWENT of the crate.
> >
> > > so getting up to let her out isn't a big deal.
> >
> > Good. But that's gonna train IT to cry to go play...
> >
> > > The problem is that I think half the time she is just not
> > > tired enough,
> >
> > No. She's ANXIHOWES because of NEGLECT being
> > locked in the box.
> >
> > > and the last time she wakes up it's obvious she just
> > > wants to play.
> >
> > Catch-22, eh Allan?
> >
> > > Can anyone give us suggestions,
> >
> > You're askin LIARS, DOG ABUSERS, and MENTAL
> > CASES for help with the same same same same
> > problems THEY GOT.
> >
> > > other than just persevering?
> >
> > You mean, IGNORING your pup and allHOWEING
> > IT to cry and find HOWET YOU DON'T CARE?
> >
> > > I know if we let her out of her crate and let her sleep
> > > on the bed, she'd get us up to go outside and not much
> > > more than that, but that means we'd have to let her sleep
> > > in the bed with us for the rest of her life!
> >
> > No Allan. That's only a problem if you don't know
> > HOWE to TRAIN a dog. HOWER DOG LOVERS
> > are AFRAID of behaviors cause they got NO METHOD
> > to TRAIN their dogs. That's HOWE COME they jerk
> > and choke and shock and spray aversives in their faces
> > and lock them in boxes...
> >
> > > We don't want to go there.
> >
> > You will, cause every thing you're doin is makin
> > your dog a MENTAL CASE. That's gonna turn
> > her into a PHYSICALLY ILL dog, as so many of
> > HOWER dog lovers dogs have got STRESS
> > INDUCED DIS-EASES.
> >
> > > I plan to try something tonight, taking her for a long
> > > walk before we go to bed, which should help.
> >
> > No, that ain't gonna help, Allan. Your pup wants YOU,
> > not a walk, not a kong toy filled with peanut butter.
> >
> > > Anyone have some suggestions?
> >
> > Yeah... either comit to raising your puppy pupperly
> > or GET RID of IT before you end up KILLIN IT.
> >
> > > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > You'll get all the INFORMATION you need in your
> > FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
> > Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> >
> > > Allan Goodall
> >
> > Here's the LIARS and DOG ABUSERS and MENTAL
> > CASES you're askin for help, Allan.
> >
> > Can you tell the TRUTH from a LIE?:
> >
> > > > > Jerome Bigge writes:
> > > > > I do know that hitting, hurting
> > > > > your dog will often make the
> > > > > dog either aggressive or a fear
> > > > > biter, neither of which we want to do.
> >
> > And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
> > This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
> >
> > > > And neither does anyone else,
> > > > Jerome. No matter
> > > > what Jerry Howe states.
> >
> > "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
> > Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
> > A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
> > TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
> > 33 Years Experience.
> >
> > You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
> > regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
> > Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
> >
> > Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
> > that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?
> >
> > > > You're scary Marilyn.
> >
> > > > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
> > > > individual. I feel very sorry for her
> > > > and her family.
> >
> > "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
> > Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
> > Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
> > Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
> > You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
> > Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
> >
> > > > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> > > > doubt, please provide a quote (an
> > > > original quote, not from one of Jerry
> > > > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> > > > shows a regular poster promoting or
> > > > using an abusive form of training.
> >
> > BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
> >
> > > > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
> >
> > "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
> > Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
> > Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
> > Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
> > The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
> > mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
> >
> > You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
> > MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
> >
> > "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
> > A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
> > Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
> > Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
> > Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
> >
> > You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
> > SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
> > is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
> >
> > "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
> > Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
> > Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
> > But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
> > "Courteous Canine."
> >
> > You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
> > is COURTEOUS?
> >
> > "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
> > your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
> > as possible. What does this mean?"
> >
> > Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
> >
> > "When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
> > one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
> > won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue
> > your
> > normal behavior."
> >
> > You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
> >
> > --Mike Dufort
> > author of the zero selling book
> > "Courteous Canines"
> >
> > You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
> >
> > Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
> > suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
> >
> > Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
> >
> > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
> > Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
> > Side,
> > Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
> > And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
> >
> > Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
> >
> > And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
> > "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
> > something you twisted out of context,
> > because you are full of bizarro manure."
> >
> > "Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
> > helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
> > Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
> > you to progress to striking them more
> > sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
> > expert trainer.
> >
> > You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
> > a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
> >
> > "Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
> > Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
> > With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
> > discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
> >
> > Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
> > their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
> > HURT THEIR DOGS?
> >
> > "John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
> > gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
> > rump with a training stick while holding him partially
> > off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
> > to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
> > to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
> >
> > We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
> >
> > terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
> > "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
> > things is something you twisted out of
> > context, because you are full of bizarro
> > manure."
> >
> > Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
> > chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all
> > over
> > it like a raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his
> > ears, or
> > leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in
> > the
> > snout with the heel of your palm.
> >
> > "BethF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > [email protected] (Leah) wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > > > > >"brianev" [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > > > do with their dogs.
> >
> > > > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > > > dogs are lies.
> >
> > > > > All of it. Every last bit.
> >
> > > > All of it?
> >
> > > > Ear pinching?
> >
> > > > Shock collars?
> >
> > > > Spiked chokers?
> >
> > > > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > > > Howe does in his accusing of them.
> > :
> > > Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
> > > Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> > > would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> > > killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> > > let alone respond to them.
> >
> > "Rocky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> >
> > > > When you compare using sound and
> > > > praise to solve a problem with using
> > > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > > > how can you criticize the use of sound?
> >
> > > There's nothing more to be said, then.
> > > You've made up your mind.
> >
> > > But you've impressed me by mentioning
> > > that you're a professor with 30 years of
> > > experience.
> >
> > > So, can you cite some examples of
> > > people recommending "shock collars,
> > > hanging, and punishment"?
> >
> > BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> >
> > > --
> > > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
> >
> > You think matty's playin with a full goddamned deck?
> >
> > matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
> >
> > Isn't that true, Marilyn?
> >
> > Of course not, but THIS IS:
> >
> > "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
> >
> > "Marshall Dermer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > >Di,
> >
> > > I don't believe you mentioned a particular
> > > kind of training. If you are interested in
> > > training retrieval behavior than do
> > > consider our own Amy Dahl's:
> >
> > > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
> > > Well-Mannered, Obedient and
> > > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
> > > Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
> >
> > You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
> > proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
> >
> > "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
> > Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
> > Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
> > Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
> >
> > LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
> > mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
> > a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
> > CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
> >
> > "I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
> > beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
> > a good working dog by making them unhapper,
> > fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
> >
> > DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
> >
> > > just $17.95 at Amazon.com.
> >
> > > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> > > few regulars here who are either ill-
> > > tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
> > > --Marshall
> >
> > Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
> > STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
> > professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
> >
> > amy lying frosty dahl continues:
> >
> > "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
> > we have trained require much more
> > frequent and heavy application of pressure
> > (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
> >
> > This is continued resistance to your
> > increasing authority, and the job is
> > not done until it is overcome
> >
> > Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
> > wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
> > less tractable dogs may require you to
> > progress to striking them more sharply"
> >
> > BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
> >
> > "Try pinching the ear between the metal
> > casing and the collar, even the buckle on
> > the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
> > give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
> > direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
> >
> > OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
> >
> > "You can press the dog's ear with a
> > shotshell instead of your thumb even
> > get a studded collar and pinch the ear
> > against that Make the dog's need to stop
> > the pinching so urgent that resisting your
> > will fades in importance.
> >
> > CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
> > Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
> > using the stick and no ear pinch.
> >
> > When the dog is digging out to beat the
> > stick and seems totally reliable without
> > any ear pinch, you are finished
> >
> > This is continued resistance to your
> > increasing authority, and the job is
> > not done until it is overcome"
> >
> > If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
> > under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
> >
> > (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
> > because the ear is getting tender, or the
> > dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
> > frosty dahl.
> >
> > "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
> > professora gingold.
> >
> > From: Marshall Dermer ([email protected])
> > In article <[email protected]>
> > [email protected] writes:
> >
> > >> -snip headers etc.
> >
> > >> Yes. you're right, I really should find
> > >> the book.. they don't have these books
> > >> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
> > >> do you find Koehler?
> >
> > > I got a nice large print copy from
> > > Amazon.com
> >
> > >Richard
> >
> > Please try Powell's Books in Portland
> > Oregon. Their URL is:
> >
> > http://www.powells.com/
> >
> > Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
> > new and used books on its shelves. You
> > can order books via e-email.
> >
> > Koehler Method Of Dog
> > Training
> > by Koehler, W R
> > Published by HOWELL BOOK
> > HOUSE (0876056575,
> >
> > ========================================================
> >
> > Here's some quotes and some methods right
> > outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
> > into its
> > face for 5
> > seconds:"
> >
> > "The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
> > Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
> >
> > Hanging
> >
> > "First, the trainer makes certain that the collar and leash are
> > more
> > than adequate for any jerk or strain that the dog's most frantic
> > actions
> > could cause. Then he starts to work the dog deliberately
> > and fairly to the point where the dog makes his grab.
> >
> > Before the teeth have reached their target, the dog, weight
> > permitting, is jerked from the ground.
> >
> > As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems
> > the dog is suspended in mid-air.
> >
> > However, to let the biting dog recover
> > his footing while he still had the strength
> > to renew the attack would be cruelty.
> >
> > The only justifiable course is to hold him
> > suspended until he has neither the strength
> > nor inclination to renew the fight.
> >
> > When finally it is obvious that he is
> > physically incapable of expressing his
> > resentment and is lowered to the ground,
> > he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
> > few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
> > over on his side.
> >
> > The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
> > on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
> > let it alarm you
> >
> > THE REAL "HOOD"
> >
> > "If your dog is a real "hood" who would
> > regard the foregoing types of protest as
> > "kid stuff" and would express his
> > resentment of your efforts by biting,
> > your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
> >
> > "Professional trainers often get these
> > extreme problems. Nearly always the
> > "protest biter" is the handiwork of a
> > person who, by avoiding situations that
> > the dog might resent, has nurtured the
> > seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
> > the resultant growth with under correction.
> >
> > When these people reap their inevitable
> > and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
> > ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
> > trainer" whose advice they may have
> > once rejected because it was incompatible
> > with the sugary droolings of mealy-
> > mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
> > and dog psychologists who, by the
> > broken skins and broken hearts their
> > misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
> > of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
> > since the dawn of time.
> >
> > "With more genuine compassion for the
> > biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
> > by those who are "too kind" to make a
> > correction and certainly with more disregard
> > for his safety, the professional trainer
> > morally feels obligated to perform a "major
> > operation."
> >
> > "Since we are presently concerned with
> > the dog that bites in resentment of the
> > demands of training, we will set our
> > example in that situation. (In a later
> > chapter we will deal with the with the
> > much easier problem of the dog that
> > bites someone other than his master."
> >
> > Are we havin FUN yet?
> >
> > Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
> >
> > The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
HOWEDY sinofabitch,
"Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid
>Jerry.
>
> What makes you think "Ted" is a real person,
Cause he managed to post to a ng. Dogs can't do that.
> rather than a JH sock puppet?
The Puppy Wizard has NEVER posted anonymHOWESLY.
> Do you really think anybody else would have crossposted to
> the woodworking and photo groups?
Yeah. Your pal perry (bentcajungirl) did when her DEAD DOG
Maggie ate Gorilla Glue.
> > How dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
Ain't nobody's business but Ted's.
> Er- you're doing exactly the same thing by replying
That's hugely EMBARRASSING to you ain't it, dog abuser.
> and leaving all 5 groups "Ted" posted to in the headers.
Blame Ted. The Puppy Wizard is only interested in identifying
exposing and discrediting the liars dog abuser and MENTAL
CASES like you, sinofabitch.
> If you reply to *this* post, please do everyone a favor, and
trim the
> headers to the group you're posting from and
rec.pets.dogs.breeds
> (which is where I am).
You ain't gonna be here noMOORE on accHOWENT of you're
a liar a dog abuser and a mental case.
> I can't tell which of the five groups you've posted to is your
> "home" group, so I'm forced to cross-post in reply.
Good for you, you paranoid psychopath.
Here's you hurtin a dog you're handling in your
ILLEGAL UN TAXED dog walking BUSINESS:
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's
Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand,
Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled
Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her
Ear," sionnach.
From Frank to lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn:
"How fricken sick do you need to be to say a dog chooses to be
shocked or pronged or shot in the ass with a sling shot?
Chooses it over what?
Are you twisted pieces of human refuse offering a dog a
selection of torture devices, and observing them indicating
their personal preference of pain infliction?
I thought the whole idea behind aversion training was that the
subject does not choose it.
You Lynn thinking people are a bunch of abusive idiots. *YOU*
choose to hurt dogs. Fine. But the fact that you want to sell
the idea that the dogs that god and human society have
entrusted, have gifted to you, are actually empowered by your
abuse, is an example of sociopathic illogic beyond anything
this ng has yet offered. You're like some fricken wife beater
who actually says "Don't make me hit you, Bitch!" What part of
what backwoods portion of which idiot nation do you people
reside in? THE DOG CHOOSES? What is next?
we have so far
1. I hurt dogs to save their lives.
2. I hurt dogs to save people's lives.
3. I hurt dogs to accomodate their choice in being hurt.
Just hurt the dogs and don't try to explain it. Please, you're
scaring me with this stuff. No wonder why you guys get so
bent out of shape when others speculate as to your
motivation behind hurting dogs.
Their speculation seems more plausable then what you yourself
offer. You're so sick, so drunk with your "tools" of power,
that you don't even see the abusive egoism in your
explanations. You people are way far gone. It will be 20 years
before you'll be embarrassed or ashamed by what you write in
here daily."
And here's a little of what Frank was talking about:
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite
Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction
The First Few Times It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike
duforth, author: "Courteous Canine."
"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."
You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING is COURTEOUS?
"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load your dog
for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as possible. What
does this mean?"
Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away.
The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and
continue your normal behavior."
You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL
BEHAVIOR?
--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"
You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with
a full deck?
Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's
Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand,
Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled
Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her
Ear," sionnach.
Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
HOWEDY skip,
"Skip Middleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Cg_eb.11101$gi2.2502@fed1read01...
>
> Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on... ;-)
Good for you, skip. NHOWE you don't ever got to even
THINK abHOWET The Puppy Wizard. Ain't THAT nice?
> -
> Skip Middleton
> www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
> "Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > It's more fun that getting all this crap. Fat lot of good
it did to
> > report him, though, apparently...
Perhaps if you had a LEGITIMATE complaint they'd DO
sumpthin, skip? Perhaps if you had some EVIDENCE of
LIES or SLANDER they'd PULL The Puppy Wizard's plug?
Go ahead and submit some QUOTES of The Puppy Wizard's
LIES and THREATS and VULGARITY, skip. The WILL address
those legitimate complaints, skip. TRUST The Puppy Wizard.
> > Skip, I'm crossposting my reply because
Because sinofabitch is a lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward, skip.
> > I can't tell which group you're originating from- if by "him"
you mean
> > Jerry Howe aka the "Puppy Wizard", good luck.
"Luck is for SUCKERS," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY.
> > The rec.pets.dogs groups have been infested with him for
almost six years-
The Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED, EXXXPOSED, and DISCREDITED
HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards and has PROVEN
ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
> > he's been booted from several ISPs,
That's a LIE, sinofabitch. The Puppy Wizard has never been
"booted."
> > but always finds another provider.
The Puppy Wizard has several ISP'S and changed some ISP'S
to avail HISSELF of faster connections, sinofabitch. HOWEever,
that's IRRELEVENT to the topic of BEHAVIORISM, ain't it.
> > In case you hadn't already figured this out, he's an unstable
person
You mean, he trains dogs to heel by jerking and choking them on a
pronged spiked pinch choke collar and when THAT fails after a half
HOWER of PAIN FEAR and INTIMIDATION he FURTHER attacks
them by throwing them to the grHOWEND an grHOWELING into
their throats and biting them on their ears?:
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
> > who has anobsession with USENET in general
The Puppy Wizard is only interested in identifying and EXXXPOSING
you
and your Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Coward pals,
sinofabitch.
> > and the dog groups in particular.
The Puppy Wizard is only interested in BEHAIVOR, sinofabitch.
> > In short, he's the USENET equivalent of those sad people you
> > sometimes see ranting and raving on streetcorners, accosting
> > passersby with their delusions about conspiracies and
grandiose
> > fantasies of their own importance.
As opposed to you and your pals who WARN folks not to BELIEVE
that dogs can be trained NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN
or bribing and lockin them in boxes, sinofabitch?
INDEED? The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Students get 100% TOTAL SUCCESS, nearly INSTANTLY,
sometimes FASTER... and REPORT their SUCCESS right here. You know,
you call them LIARS and FORGERIES.
> > Most of the rec.pets.dogs.xxx regulars have
Been proven to be liars dog abusers and active MENTAL CASES.
> > found it best to simply ignore and/or killfile him;
You read The Puppy Wizard's posts first and relpy to them before
the html is dry cause you're PARANOID.
> > posts complaining to/about him only serve to feed his illness.
So YOU IGNORE HIM.
Good for you!
HOWEDY Allan,
"Allan Goodall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, there.
>
> My wife and I had decided that we were going to get
> a dog, a puppy. We are both dog people, but in this
> case our youngest -- who has a dog at my wife's
> ex-husband's home -- has been talking incessantly
> about a dog. The last puppy I had was in a previous
> marriage, 8 years ago, so I'm a little rusty. We had
> hoped to have some time to research things more,
> but last week we were the victims of a "drive-by dogging"
> and ended up with a little mixed-breed bitch.
>
> The problem: she cries quite a bit in the middle of the night.
Puppys and babies cry cause they got NEEDS, Allan.
> We live in a small house,
The Puppy Wizard grew up in a huge HOWES with
a Great Dane kennel.
> so it's not easy to segregate her where we won't hear her.
That'd be NEGLECT, wouldn't it, Allan.
> She's waking up about once every 45 minutes to 90
> minutes, crying in her crate.
That's on accHOWENT of she's UNHAPPY, Allan.
You're gonna raise a VERY DISTURBED puppy.
> At first we had it in a different room, but she woke up
> and was very, very loud, waking up all of us.
Your puppy AIN'T gonna develop to be a good dog
if you NEGLECT and IGNORE her NEEDS, Allan.
> We moved it into our room where she knows where
> we are, but it just means that the quieter cries are
> much closer to us.
Your puppy is OBJECTING to being locked in a box, Allan.
A mom dog wouldn't let her puppy cry for WON moment.
> I've been getting up with her,
Good.
> but it's really taking its toll on both of us.
Take her HOWETA the box and she'll be HAPPY
and comfortable and she'll LOVE you. OtherWIZE,
you'll teach her that YOU DON'T CARE abHOWET
her and likeWIZE she WON'T CARE abHOWET you
and your family.
Have you been reading HOWER forum?
The vast majority of posters here are LIARS, DOG
ABUSERS, and MENTAL CASES.
> This is our second week with her (and due to an
> unfortunate bit of timing, she had to be boarded
> at the vet's over the weekend;
The boarding is not the same as being NEGLECTED
at her HOWES with you there. THAT'S CRUELTY, Allan.
> not a bad thing,
Right. The boarding is DIFFERENT.
> really, as they were able to deworm her and fix up some
> other problems), and so far neither of us have had much
> of a good night's sleep.
You're gonna have a very difficult dog, like nessa and
leah and liea and marcel and all the rest of HOWER
DOG ABUSERS, LIARS, and MENTAL CASES got.
> I realize she doesn't have any bladder control,
That too, is on accHOWENT of the crate.
> so getting up to let her out isn't a big deal.
Good. But that's gonna train IT to cry to go play...
> The problem is that I think half the time she is just not
> tired enough,
No. She's ANXIHOWES because of NEGLECT being
locked in the box.
> and the last time she wakes up it's obvious she just
> wants to play.
Catch-22, eh Allan?
> Can anyone give us suggestions,
You're askin LIARS, DOG ABUSERS, and MENTAL
CASES for help with the same same same same
problems THEY GOT.
> other than just persevering?
You mean, IGNORING your pup and allHOWEING
IT to cry and find HOWET YOU DON'T CARE?
> I know if we let her out of her crate and let her sleep
> on the bed, she'd get us up to go outside and not much
> more than that, but that means we'd have to let her sleep
> in the bed with us for the rest of her life!
No Allan. That's only a problem if you don't know
HOWE to TRAIN a dog. HOWER DOG LOVERS
are AFRAID of behaviors cause they got NO METHOD
to TRAIN their dogs. That's HOWE COME they jerk
and choke and shock and spray aversives in their faces
and lock them in boxes...
> We don't want to go there.
You will, cause every thing you're doin is makin
your dog a MENTAL CASE. That's gonna turn
her into a PHYSICALLY ILL dog, as so many of
HOWER dog lovers dogs have got STRESS
INDUCED DIS-EASES.
> I plan to try something tonight, taking her for a long
> walk before we go to bed, which should help.
No, that ain't gonna help, Allan. Your pup wants YOU,
not a walk, not a kong toy filled with peanut butter.
> Anyone have some suggestions?
Yeah... either comit to raising your puppy pupperly
or GET RID of IT before you end up KILLIN IT.
> Any help would be appreciated.
You'll get all the INFORMATION you need in your
FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> Allan Goodall
Here's the LIARS and DOG ABUSERS and MENTAL
CASES you're askin for help, Allan.
Can you tell the TRUTH from a LIE?:
> > > Jerome Bigge writes:
> > > I do know that hitting, hurting
> > > your dog will often make the
> > > dog either aggressive or a fear
> > > biter, neither of which we want to do.
And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
> > And neither does anyone else,
> > Jerome. No matter
> > what Jerry Howe states.
"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
33 Years Experience.
You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?
> > You're scary Marilyn.
> > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
> > individual. I feel very sorry for her
> > and her family.
"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
> > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> > doubt, please provide a quote (an
> > original quote, not from one of Jerry
> > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> > shows a regular poster promoting or
> > using an abusive form of training.
BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
> > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."
You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?
"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"
Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue
your
normal behavior."
You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"
You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!"
And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context,
because you are full of bizarro manure."
"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer.
You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
HURT THEIR DOGS?
"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."
Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all
over
it like a raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his
ears, or
leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in
the
snout with the heel of your palm.
"BethF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (Leah) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > > >"brianev" [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > do with their dogs.
:
> > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > dogs are lies.
:
> > > All of it. Every last bit.
:
> > All of it?
:
> > Ear pinching?
:
> > Shock collars?
:
> > Spiked chokers?
:
> > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > Howe does in his accusing of them.
:
> Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
> Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> let alone respond to them.
"Rocky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > When you compare using sound and
> > praise to solve a problem with using
> > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > how can you criticize the use of sound?
> There's nothing more to be said, then.
> You've made up your mind.
> But you've impressed me by mentioning
> that you're a professor with 30 years of
> experience.
> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?
BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
You think matty's playin with a full goddamned deck?
matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
Isn't that true, Marilyn?
Of course not, but THIS IS:
"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
"Marshall Dermer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Di,
> I don't believe you mentioned a particular
> kind of training. If you are interested in
> training retrieval behavior than do
> consider our own Amy Dahl's:
> The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
> Well-Mannered, Obedient and
> Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
> Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
> just $17.95 at Amazon.com.
> (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> few regulars here who are either ill-
> tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
> --Marshall
Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
amy lying frosty dahl continues:
"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome
Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"
BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.
CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.
When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished
This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"
If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.
"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer ([email protected])
In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] writes:
>> -snip headers etc.
>> Yes. you're right, I really should find
>> the book.. they don't have these books
>> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
>> do you find Koehler?
> I got a nice large print copy from
> Amazon.com
>Richard
Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:
http://www.powells.com/
Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.
Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,
========================================================
Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its
face for 5
seconds:"
"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
Hanging
"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar and leash are
more
than adequate for any jerk or strain that the dog's most frantic
actions
could cause. Then he starts to work the dog deliberately
and fairly to the point where the dog makes his grab.
Before the teeth have reached their target, the dog, weight
permitting, is jerked from the ground.
As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems
the dog is suspended in mid-air.
However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.
The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.
When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.
The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you
THE REAL "HOOD"
"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.
When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.
"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."
"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."
Are we havin FUN yet?
Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
These posts are completely off topic for rec.woodworking, rec.photo.digital
and rec.photo.equipment.35mm. Please stop. I've requested you to do so
several times, and to stop crossposting. Next step is to report you to your
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--
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"The Puppy Wizard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Carnivore269" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > "Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have
> created for
> > > > training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the
> new
> > > > version is available for human children! Thank you for your
> service to
> > > > humanity!
> > >
> > > Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid
> Jerry. How
> > > dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
> > > He, and likely you, could use some sort of behavior program.
> >
> > Why would you leave rpdb due to Jerry?
> > I don't know about you, but my keyboard works just fine...
> > The delete key is getting quite polished. <G>
> >
> > I just mark his messages "read" on first scan thru the new
> > listings and ignore most of his posts....
> >
> > Sheesh! :-)
> >
> > C.
>
>
> HOWEDY Soup,
>
> "@d o g t v dot com" <""m i c h e ae l \"@d o g t v dot com">
> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> > sighthounds etc. wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:56:36 -0400, "Tara O."
> <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>Damn Gwen, don't mince words or anything.
>
> Right. She probably doesn't know what she's
> sayin, HOWER dog lovers are havin a psychotic
> reaction to The Puppy Wizard. That's what these
> long bullshit threads are all abHOWET.
>
> > >> I will assume, from the above, that in your eyes,
> > >> I am not trustworthy to rescue Boxers
>
> To say the least hat's correct, judging by your case
> history in The Puppy Wizard's Archives.
>
> > >> or make decisions on who gets to adopt them...
>
> That's correct, judging by your case history in
> The Puppy Wizard's Archives.
>
> > > having killed my own dog and all.
>
> INDEEDY. Cause you wouldn't stop jerking
> and choking her on your pronged spiked pinch
> choke collar and spraying IT with aversives and
> lockin IT in a box.
>
> > > You're not the only one.
>
> Damned tootin. Most of HOWE Gang Of Lying Dog
> Abusing Punk Thug Cowards are ACTIVE UNTREATED
> MENTAL CASES who have killed their own dogs HOWETA
> FEAR after they've HURT and INTIMIDATED their dogs
> MOORE than anyWON could be expected to bear from
> the person they LOVED THE MOST.
>
> Most of them have been VICTIMIZED by their parents.
>
> That's HOWE COME they should do the only honorable
> thing left... under the circumstances. They've been lying
> to themselves to save face from themselves. That's their
> HUMAN NATURE.
>
> > > After numerous training classes, behavioral
> > > consultations, and hundreds of dollars in vet bills,
> > > I killed my Dalmatian several years ago due to
> > > extreme dog-aggressiveness.
>
> Yeah. Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME you don't want
> to BELIEVE The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
> End Dog Training Method Manual Students like Nevyn
> Valerie or Professora Daniel when THEY TELL YOU
> they've CURED their dog's LONG TERM AGGRESSION
> NEARLY INSTANTLY, FOR FREE, using The Puppy
> Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
> Manual, after WASTING 5 THOWESAND DOLLARS at
> the veterinary behaviorists and seeing Purdue behavior
> clinic and four trainers and followin ALL the information
> from pryor dunbar dodman donaldson fogle and the
> rest of the INCOMPTENT PET BEHAVIOR PROFESSIONALS.
>
> The Puppy Wizard CONSISTENTLY CURES ALL BEHAIVOR
> PROBLEMS NEARLY INSTANTLY ALL OVER THE Whole
> Wild World from settin right here, stark ravin nekkid.
>
> FOR FREE, goddamnit.
>
> Even The Puppy Wizard's CRIPPLED Students
> are MOORE PROFICIENT than the VERY BEST
> of the "EXXXPERTS."
>
> The Puppy Wizard will BET HIS LIFE on THAT.
>
> And yours and your kids, to boot, goddamnit.
>
> Cause THAT'S the Nature of this Beast. Failure
> MEANS DEATH in the problem behavior BUSINESS.
>
> And The Puppy Wizard can do it AUTOMAGICKALLY,
> from maybe up to a half mile away, using HIS Doggy
> Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A
> Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) Machine. GUARANTEED.
>
> > Did you have to pay for it,
>
> THAT'S a other reason HOWE COME HOWER DOG LOVERS
> HATE The Puppy Wizard so bad they LIE and DISAVAIL
> NEW READERS of the vital INFORMATION they NEED to
> SAVE THEIR DOG'S LIFE.
>
> Look what these dog lovers did to Robert Crim after he
> learned HOWE NOT TO KILL HIS NEXT DOG. They turned
> on him like a pack of dogs scrappin after a bitch in heat.
>
> > or did the local Animal Protection League,
>
> Did you read the thread "shelter ringworm," Soup?
> These DOG LOVERS are fixin to MURDER dogs
> for RINGWORM!!! It's no worse than athlete's foot!
>
> > where you were board President while 70% of the
> > animals coming in for rescue were being killed,
>
> And they BEG MONEY from J.Q. Pubic for THAT
> withHOWET tellin them, to boot. And look at ed
> williams of PET LOSS dot COIN! He makes his
> livin off of DEAD DOGS. Can you GUESS HOWE
> COME he's afraid for folks to learn HOWE NOT
> to KILL their dogs, Soup? Hmm? You any good
> at BUSINESS ECONOMICS? No WONder the
> INDUSTRY is AFRAID to acknowledge us... it'd
> be SUICIDE for them!
>
> > give you a freebie?
>
> kind2dogs sez "TOO MANY NO KILL SHELTERS"
> and talks people HOWETA their dogs and accepts
> a WEE BIT of MONEY for the favor, INSTEAD OF
> TRAINING them usin The Puppy Wizard's FREE
> WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
>
> Who is doin who a favor here, Soup? Seems to
> The Puppy Wizard these dog lovers are gettin
> MONEY to TAKE a dog, and SELLIN IT to a
> other person who can TOLERATE or AVOID the
> problem. And if IT'S returned, they DHOWEBLE
> UP on the action. That's better than freakin mafioso
> business, ain't it, Soup?
>
> > > Either she was going to kill Tasha, my Siberian
>
> Like Nevyn's three y.o. pit bull X kelpie X bitch siblings.
> Took Nevyn 23 DAYS to break their seriHOWES aggression
> and have them workin off lead together in pubic...
>
> Even The Puppy Wizard will admit that's freakin AMAZIN.
> Some Student's even call their NEAR INSTANT SUCCESS
> a MIRACLE. The Puppy Wizard has people PRAYIN for HIM
> all over the Whole Wild World cause HE'S save their dog's
> lives and improve the quality of life of their entire family, and
> broken the cycle of passin dHOWEN ABUSE through the generations.
>
> We ain't playin freakin games here Soup. We're
> talkin LIFE or DEATH ISSUES. We've got some
> very seriHOWES pathology goin dHOWEN
> amongst HOWER shelter / rescue folks.
>
> The vast majority of REAL s/r folks are not be like
> these guys. I've know some who were legit. These
> guys are in it for their own fragile defective ego
> gratification, weak fearful minds and to compensate
> for their inferiority complexes.
>
> And don't FORGET, the WEE BIT of MONEY.
>
> > > with the rock steady temperament, or Tasha was
> > > going to kill her, right in front of us.
>
> So these imbeciles stand there like big dumb
> marlmalukes watchin for a fight to break HOWET.
> They let their dogs fight it HOWET to make 'rank.'
> They let their KATS train their dogs. When that
> fails they KILL WON. They kill the "dominant" WON.
> That's the WON who's MOST SCARED. That's what
> DOMINANCE is. It's FEAR. The dogs are TERRIFIED
> from getting jerked and choked on their pronged spiked
> pinch choke and shock collars and their kats are attackin
> cause the PEOPLE are GOIN NUTS.
>
> > >My DH's first dog, and still the canine love of his life.
>
> You mean the WON you MURDERED. You couldn't
> GIVE IT AWAY??? Certainly noWON would BUY IT.
> But MAYBE you could find a wino or sumpthin who
> can't afford a dog and GIVE IT to them? Maybe even
> give em a WEE BIT of MONEY to take IT off your hands?
>
> Or tie IT to a bench so someWON like Soup will
> come by and give him a HOWES to live in.
>
> > > Good thing that Gwen is perfect
>
> gwen is a psycho.
>
> > >in her stewardship of her animals.
>
> She recently had a dog GET DEAD over a SHOCK
> FENCE ACCIDENT. The REPLACEMENT puppy is
> FIGHTING with her other dog who's DYIN of STRESS
> INDUCED DIS-EASE, as are MANY of the other dogs
> who've been gettin jerked and choked and shocked.
>
> Look at cate's Orson. Goin BLIND. 'It's PROGRESSIVE,
> yet UNDIAGNOSABLE.' She's had Orson in REMEDIAL
> OBEDIENCE for four years and STILL has behavior problems
> particularly, POSSESSION AGGRESSION.
>
> Look at professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
> 'NO!' into ITS face for 5 seconds and lock IT in a
> box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer's Maxie
> The Magnificent FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive
> Masturbator, DYIN of STRESS INDUCED DIS-EASE.
>
> Charlie will get a thrill HOWETA this. professor SCRUFF
> SHAKE's CURE for the recurrent UTI's is wiping Maxie's
> tally whacker with a warm moist tHOWEL with Aloe gel,
> UNKNOWINGLY, yet CONSEQUENTLY, mimicking
> masturbation pryor to bedtime.
>
> This "urinary tract infection" treatmen consequently
> sufficiently CALMS the dog dHOWEN and RELAXES,
> makes him FRIENDLY, and he ain't had a case in six
> months.
>
> Know what? If we did that treatment for most of the
> "sick" dogs suffering every thing from seizures to
> endocrine and myopathies and neuromyalgias, we'd
> GET THE SAME SAME SAME SAME RESULTS,
> cause the PROBLEM is NOT MEDICAL.
>
> The RESULTS will show 85% success, the same
> same same same success rate they get with their
> TRAINING. Of the 15% left over, those will be 100%
> REHABILITATED using The Puppy Wizard's Ten Step
> Rehabilitation Program... PROVING the connection
> that FORCE TRAINING CAUSES DEADLY DIS-EASES,
> I.e, The Goddamned Puppy Wizard SYNDROME.
>
> HOWE'S THAT hit you, Soup? Hit's Dr. Puppy Wizard
> pretty goddamned good. But you know what? The Puppy
> Wizard prefers The at the end of HIS handle. The universities
> are NOT gonna BRIBE The Puppy Wizard to LAY OFF THEM.
>
> Even CLICKER training is NOT HARMLESS, Soup.
> Withholding bribes to get the dog to "throw behaviors"
> raises anxiety to the same same same same state of
> mind to the level where OCD'S live. C/T training can
> cause seizures light / shadow /tail chasing self mutilation
> and even aggression.
>
> > Gwen didn't murder her own dog.
>
> Well Soup, her dogs have chosen a other course of
> REACTION to The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME. WON
> recently had a TRAGICK ACCIDENT, a other is dog /
> dog aggressive of her SICK DOG who's DYIN of degenerative
> myopathy or sumpthin The can't even pronHOWENCE.
>
> gwen REFUSES to believe the EVIDENCE from UofOH
> PROVING THE MECHANISM which CAUSES tellin the
> dog NO an scruff shakin and lockin IT in a box, to cause
> every thing from bladder stones and UTI's to OCD'S to
> myopathies and myalgias and endocrine and even cataracts
> and goddamned TOOTH DIS-EASE.
>
> > You and Tara O. did.
>
> INDEEDY. And the entire training and behavior industry
> are unknowingly DOIN LIKEWIZE.
>
> > michael
>
> The Puppy Wizard will be submittin some STUFF
> to the medical journals and them guys this week,
> and will offer a "protocol" to follow. The puts protocol
> in ""'s on accHOWENT of that's just the first page tellin
> who and what, not the ROUTINE or METHOD to CURE
> The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
>
> > live..
>
> INDEEDY.
>
> > dogtv.comn
>
> The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >
>
> > > Mustang Sally
>
> The dog killer:
>
> "I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
> as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
> for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
> unwanted animals.
>
> This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
> breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
> to that problem," Mustang Sally.
>
> "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you and you
> will
> know each other. If you do not talk to them, you will not know
> them, and what you do not know you will fear.
>
> What one fears, one destroys."
> Chief Dan George
>
> Adapted with permission from his FREE copy
> of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
> End Dog Training Method Manual.
>
>
> "It is by muteness that a dog becomes so
> utterly beyond value."
>
> Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog
> won't tell on you...
>
> "With him, words play no torturing tricks.., "
> John Galsworthy.
>
> Their behaviors reflect our words, actions
> and training quirks. Jerry HOWE.
>
> "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
> can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
> ~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from
> his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE Wits'
> End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
>
>
> All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
> ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third,
> it is accepted as being self-evident.
> -Arthur Schopenhauer
>
> "Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
> as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
> enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
> wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
> perceives that the two are one knows the truth."
>
> "Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
> indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
> What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
> hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
> from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
> the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
> permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
> End Dog Training Method manual.
>
> Force training JERRYIZES dogs, and GETS THEM DEAD.
>
> Every correction is like our dog lovers seeing a new post
> from Jerry and every minute of crate anxiety is like reading
> another "thanks Jerry, your method/machine saved my dog's
> life" post from The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
> Training Method Manual students...
>
> Now you know HOWE COME professor scruff shake's
> little dog masturbates compulsively on his couch if he
> doesn't get his five miles of road work every day.
>
> When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
>
> "I know that most men, including those at ease with
> problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
> even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
> oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
> have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
> taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
> thread, into the fabric of their lives."
> -Leo Tolstoy-
>
> Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
> more complaints to my personal email than any other
> controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
>
> CAVEAT
> If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
> would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
> them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
> dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
> shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
> punish your dog in any manner, that corrections OF ANY
> KIND are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as
> the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
> can't train your dog to do what you want NEARLY
> INSTANTLY, look for a trainer that knows HOWE.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jerry Howe,
> Director of Research,
> BIOSOUND Scientific
> Director of Training,
> Wits' End Dog Training
> 1611 24th St
> Orlando, FL 32805
> Phone: 1-407-425-5092
> Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
> Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
> http://www.doggydoright.com
>
> The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
>
> Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
> -Francis Bacon-
>
> There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
> problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
> come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
> should, please, not hit at all.
> -Nietzsche-
>
> The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
> learned qualities.
>
> The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
> centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
> develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.
>
> The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
> praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
> timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
> corrections, and scolding.
>
> -Jerry Howe-
> The Puppy Wizzzard
> <}TPW;~}>
>
> ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
> ,-._,-,
> V)"(V
> (_o_) Have a great day!
> / V)
> (l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
> oo-oo
>
>
>
>
HOWEDY skip,
"Skip Middleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:onkfb.11310$gi2.3308@fed1read01...
>
> I'm over at rec.****.35mm.
Excellent! You'll enjoy this:
> --
> Skip Middleton
> www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
HOWEDY Linda,
"Linda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
> dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
> I do not know what started the problem but he came
> aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
> snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
> and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
> ad I took him with me everywhere.
>
> At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
> Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
> clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
> it was not working on his aggression problem.
>
> I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
> trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
> They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
> and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
> suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
> working as he was becoming more aggressive.
>
> I took him to an animal behaviorist with PhD 400 miles
> away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
> on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
> use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.
>
> I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
> ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
> LEASH", ETC looking for help.
>
> We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal
> Behavior Clinic and they said he had fear aggression,
> punishment would not work, use the gentle leader and
> when out walking and he got stressed have the people
> stop until he could get in control using treats,and work
> on clicker training.
>
> At that point I knew more about clicker training and
> using the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was
> working--he would not come when I called him and
> would run away when I tried to catch him.
>
> I was afraid to walk him even in the neighborhood
> as we had become that "mean dog and women who
> hasn't trained her dog."
>
> I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida
> who were trainer/specialists in aggression and the
> last two were so afraid of him they could not approach
> him. No one said I should give up on him and kill him
> but they would say "You have to realize he is dangerous
> and you are responsible for him."
>
> As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had
> on going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown
> and Dr Meister with out any help-and I found the ad
> to Doggy Do Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this
> might help my dog.
>
> He said solving the aggression problem was EZ
> but I could not believe him even when I downloaded
> the manual.
>
> The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
>
> I had been working for 18 month!
>
> Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
> from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
> I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
> blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
> can sound and he looked at me like uhn?
>
> I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
> -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
> looked at me like why are shaking that can but just
> walked on by.
>
> When ever I try to explain about the sound people look
> at me like "you must be out of your mind"
>
> The results can make a believer!!!
>
> Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
> Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
> in a busy shopping area with many dogs. He just
> seemed to not notice any one.
>
> When people talked to him or ask his name he would
> look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
>
> I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
> enjoy life out in public.
>
> If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
> was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
> and had to be killed. Through all this he never growled
> at me, guarded his toys or food or showed any sign of
> aggression with me.
>
> My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
> dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
> out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
> I know most people would have given up on him a long time
> ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
> but only with the right approach-sound and praise.
>
> I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!
-------- Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression
Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.
We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!
We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.
He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!
Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.
I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!
I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.
I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-
- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.
They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.
HOWEDY Linda,
----- Original Message -----
>From: Linda
>To: Jerry Howe
>Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:13 PM
>Subject: Re: dog aggression
>
> Well we are here in Kissimmee and I can not believe the
> change in Sunshine--we went to farmers market in
> Celebration and everyone wanted to pet Sunshine and
> he walked up and wagged his tail--he is so much happier
> and less stressed.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! THAT makes Your
Puppy Wizard's day all warm and fuzzy!
Thank you for being a dedicated student!
> One problem which I have not solved
There's NUTHIN we can't solve together from sittin
right here..., stark ravin nekkid.
> is his jumping up on people he knows and loves-
Fine! EZ!
> -he still gets so excited he get out of control.
O.K. There's lots of ways we can break that.
> He does not jump up on strangers or people he meets
EXXXCELLENTE!!!
> Just the people he is so excited to see.
EXXXCELLENTE!!!
> I have told everyone I see about you and your system-
EXXXCELLENTE!!!
> -people with little dogs who are totally untrained have
> been able to quiet their dog with the can and good boy!!
EXXXCELLENTE!!!
> Everyone wants to know why the can works
You mean they want to know HOWE COME IT WORKS?
> and how you were able to understand how a dog thinks.
I grew up in a Dane kennel. My dogs have ALWAYS been
bigger n me... and I couldn't hurt them at all, so I couldn't
train them, and that was not making The Puppy Wizard's
dogs owner's HAPPY. And WE couldn't KILL THEM as
our EXXXPERT trainers and breed fanciers practice.
So, we worked 24/8 just like I'm still doin.
But back then, it was just me and my dog. Now it's me
an my dogs against the ENTIRE industry, so it seems
from the REJECTION, RIDICULE, and MALICE from
self proclaimed dog lovers who RELIGIOUSLY REFUSE
to believe we can train ALL dogs and ALL handlers and
ALL behavior problems using ONE method... because
"every dog is a individual" and NEEDS "individualized"
training.
Well, it's that "INDIVIDUALIZED TRAINING" that KILLS dogs
and gets innocent people HURT. And the crying goddamned
shame of it is, there's NO reason for it save for the fragile
defective EGOS of our professional and competitive pet
lovers who'd PREFER to HURT their own dogs than listen to
the one trainer and his multitude of 100% nearly instantly
SUCCESSFUL, FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
students, like YOURSELF.
Their objection? "Could be dangerous not having CONTROL."
> Now just a good boy when he gets a little concerned will
> have him turn toward me and look like "oh great"
Our EXXPERT dog lovers blatantly refuse to praise a dog
for doin BAD, they KNOW they got to HURT IT to teach
RESPECT.. for their goddamned G-d-like AUTHORITY.
> We are close to Celebration and when he was little we
> went over and sat by the water and people talked with
> us and petted Sunshine but last year we could not go
> as he lunged at everyone and sounded like he wanted to kill.
Yeah. That's cause EVERYTHING you'd been "taught" by
your pet professional was EXXXACTLY OPPOSITE of
what YOU learned HERE in CYBERSPACE, and applied
in a couple of days, maybe LESS... Hey? Got a surprise for
ya...
Last week The Puppy Wizard signed onto the "pro trainers"
hot list... a group of jerk and choke pinch and shock
fanciers.
My first post was NOT inflammatory (as you know The Puppy
Wizard has a propensity for being, when dealing with "dog
trainers").
My introduction IMMEDIATELY got me "redirected" to their
"BACK ROOM" "where ANYTHING goes..." Well, their only
concern from my first post was that I'd quoted Sir Monty
Roberts, the horse trainer for The Queen?
Our horse trainers are EXXXACTLY the same selfish, vicious,
ignorant, lying animal abusing coward thug cretins who hurt
dogs where I come from. ALL they wanted to do was 'take issue'
with ME quoting the NOTORIOUS ABUSER and FRAUD,
Sir Monty Roberts!~
All for havin quoted ONE LINE: "I've never seen a horse
run to the NEXT blade of grass." IMAGINE???
They had NOTHIN to say about the detailed DOG BEHAVIOR
text I'd sent, only voiced their objections to that dangerous
unscrupulous horseman!!! I didn't make any other reference
to him except his simile about BRIBERY.
In examining their quoted "complaints" of animal abuse, there
were only 2 references to HORSES! They intentionally
maligned his Technique, which is comparable to The Puppy
Wizard's H&C FPLX.
My findings were there were NO discrepancies in MR's methods,
only in the COMPLAINER'S failure to WANT to understand and
outrage for EMBARRASSING THEM!
As we've seen from MY work with these "trainers" on the net,
their OBJECTIONS were FALSE, and their rendition of what
MR's methods, tools, and goals are, were OBSCURED beyond
any sense of reason... or practicality!
I managed to last about 1.5 days in the PRO TRAINER'S
HOT LIST "BACK ROOM, where ANYTHING GOES!!!"
COWARDS CAN'T EVEN DISCUSS THE FACTS IN PRIVATE!
> Now we can go and he enjoys the people again-
EXXXCELLENTE!
Hey? Ya wanna know HOWE COME the PRO TRAINERS
freaked out on Your Puppy Wizard, Linda??? The Puppy
Wizard figured he'd CUT THEM DOWN TO SIZE, so he
sent them YOUR POSTING HISTORY - with the subject
header: "Cripples Train Vicious Dogs Just Like Your
Puppy Wizard."
BWEHAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAA!!!
Them nitwits got Your Puppy Wizard laughin in Spanish
and he don't even Espekie Espanish!!!
Here's a bit of the text, I think you'll appreciate it.
BUT FIRST, check the goddamned seatbelt an set
the breaks on your wheel chair or you WILL have
a accident when you start laughin so hard as you're
gonnna... Try this on for size:
PRO TRAINER:
> > Get some help, man.
Don't need no HELP. Training dogs is EZ. Even a cripple
student of mine can train their dogs better and faster
than the whole damned bunch of you assholes put
together... Even if we give you a week's head start...
FACT!
> I would have written sooner, but I had to wait for the
> laughter to subside.
Check it out! Your Puppy Wizard is laughin his ass off.
> Thanks, Keith. :-)
Oh, I didn't think Keith was being insincere when he
asked for the contact info. I figured if he was serious
he'd of just punched up a couple emails and wrote...
> That may be the best advice
Laughter is always the best medicine, ruthie. Perhaps
that's HOWE COME my FREE Wits' End Dog Training
Method manual students dogs train up so goddamned
fast and EZ?
> I've ever seen given on the internet!
Oh, INDEED! We got help here. Your Puppy Wizard's got
them BIOSOUND Scientific Elves...
> Eleanor
Oh, bye the bye, here's a CRIPPLE with a vicious dog
that bit her twice a couple days before she wrote.
And I'll get you a other from a other crip who couldn't
even use her clicker, which I think she threw away...
================================
End pro nuthin... tee hee, tee hee, tee hee!
> -Horses have always been a stress for him
BWWHWHAHAHAHAAA!!! ME TOO! Been broke up
a couple times by mistook... but I learned those lessons
QUITE WELL and have applied them to my dogs...
> and last year we could not go the Celebration on the
> weekends because if he saw a horse three blocks
> away he started off barking and tearing up the car
> to get to the horse.
Yeah. Horses belong in the dinner plate or in a can,
as far as our dogs are concerned...
> Just before Christmas we drove over to Celebration
> and when he saw a horse I shook the can and told
> him good boy--after this one time he acts like horses
> are no big deal and can drive right past them.
EXXXCELLENTE!!! BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
You got any idea HOWE hard most trainers work on
THAT problem??? FOREVER and A DAY!
> I understand that telling him good boy lets him know
> it is ok and he settles down, but why does it work so
> well???
Aggression is FEAR. HOWE can we be fearful when Mumzie
sez "You good boy you! Nice doggy!"
Huh? HOWE can ANYbody be FEARFUL, when MUMZI
sez "It's O.K. GOOD BOY! NICE DOG!"
> Do you do in personal consultations?
The Puppy Wizard seldom leaves his rubber room
desktop, even to eat.
> I still have a few problems that I know are related
> to my not being able to move very well and am alone
> so it is hard to do the family thing.
NO PROBLEMO! Tell me what's the problem,
and Your Puppy Wizard will troubleshoot it for
you and it will DISSAPPEAR as fast as it came!
> Also I really want to meet you as I figured out
> I had spent over four thousand dollars with
> classes, sessions with vets, behaviorist, and
> a visit to Purdue Small Animal Behavioral clinic.
Interested in recouping your LOSSES? Perhaps
Your Puppy Wizard will grant you an audience
were you to consider SUING THE INCOMPETENT
BASTARDS and HE'LL REPRESENT YOU IN
COURT and The Puppy Wizard will CURSE the
offenders and BLESS his dedicated disadvantaged
student...
I'm as serious about that as a heart attack. YOU GAME
FOR THAT? The Puppy Wizard will subsidize any costs
till your court ordered AWARD is GRANTED.
HOWE BOUT IT, LINDA? CAN YOU DO THIS
FOR YOUR PUPPY WIZARD?
> Nothing helped until I FOUND YOU.
PAYBACK'S A BITCH! Can you pay the Piper?
> The other thing I wanted to share is that I can
> see that because I know he will come and I
> have a way to break his thinking I am more
> relaxed and I think this is very important because
> I think like you said when I got tense he thought
> he had to protect me not understanding that I
> was tense about him.
INDEEDY!
> Sunshine is really my life
LIKEWISE, The Puppy Wizard's. The Sunshines The
Puppy Wizard has a WATCHED BEING MURDERED
by snot nosed Punk "professional trainers" has brewed
a VILE POTION Your Puppy Wizard has decocted to
THROW IN THE FACES of the entire industry, from
the top to the bottom and back to the depths of HELL
where these vicious cretins were SPAWNED by
STATAN HIMSELF!!!
> as I am alone and the thought of losing him because
> of him biting or attacking was more than I could take.
LIKEWISE, for Your Puppy Wizard.
> Also taking him out in public is an important part of
> my life as that's how I meet people and have people
> to talk with.
INDEED, we are DOUBLY BLESSED! Thank You.
The Puppy Wizard is NOTHING without Sunshine
and YOUR DEDICATION.
> Looking forward to hearing from you again
You just did.
> and hope I can meet you and you can meet Mr. Sunshine!!!!!
The Puppy Wizard is NOT a FOOL, for FLATTERY!
What IS the nature of this problem you seek assistance with?
Your Puppy Wizard LIVES for a challenge, Linda.
Tell The Puppy Wizard the nature of your dilemma
you believe requires his generous assistance. IF
The Puppy Wizard can suffice your trainin desires
from sittin right here stark ravin nekkid, he will
GLADLY grant you a personal audience and have
the OPPORTUNITY OF HIS LIFE, to meet our
Sunshine IN THE FLESH....
State: "our training problem is:
And THEN we'll see about OUR own PLEASURE!
Your Puppy Wizard. <YPW;~)
P.S. Coincidentally, we have kin visiting down
your way and we are tentatively planning to
go there (don't know when) as they are not
mobile.
Perhaps Mrs. Puppy Wizard and himself can combine
the visits and we can socialize *(Ugh! The Puppy
Wizard PREFERS to WORK!!!)?
HOWE long will you be in town, and do you have
any commitments? Your Puppy Wizard is available
24/8 - IF we can solve your training problem as
per the usual, customary, medium. of CYBERSPACE.
DEAL? And PLEASE seriously consider NAILING
THAT UNIVERSITY. The Puppy Wizard will RAVENOUSLY
DEVOUR their "behaviorists" AND their high priced defense
team, FOR FREE! GUARANTEED.
Cause THAT'S HOWE The Puppy Wizard HAS HIS FUUN!!!
Eternally Yours, Jerry Howe, Your Puppy Wizard. <YPW;~)
P.S. Ooops! In reviewing my post, I've solved your training
problem... Perhaps it was the EXXXCITEMENT of hearing
from you once again and all the prospects it entails. The
PROBLEM IS, when Sunsine greets HIS PALS, he's already
gained physical contact through his feet on his friend.
Advise his friends they must not engage him physically,
that they should ACT NORMAL in their greeting, but at
the very last moment, STEP BACK to avoid contact
with his feet as you operate the techniques, and
Sunshine will AUTOMAGICKALLY become effectively
broken of this last, long term behavioral problem.
The Puppy Wizard is at your disposal. Call me whenever
you'd like and I / we will be there, nearly instantly, or
next spring. The Puppy Wizard gets lost on his way to
the corner store... repeatedly. Perhaps THAT'S HOWE
COME he prefers to be settin right here, stark ravin nekkid.
XXX/000
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
To: Linda Daniel
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect or I'll get the
heel outta this business... Yours, Jerry.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks for the encouragement
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:35 AM
To: Linda Daniel
Subject: Re: dog aggression
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
HOWEDY Linda,
> I got your message tonight and have printed
> your manual--will start tomorrow--
Excellent.
> I am truly at my wits end!!!
Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!
> Today he bite me twice breaking the skin when he was in a
> "rage" .
He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking about you when he
bites. He's just overexcited trying to PROTECT you. That'll
diminish immediately through simply handling the lead
properly, gettin the control and attention through the praise
conditioning, and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control.
EZ stuff.
> Once when he saw another dog-ran toward the dog
Sound/praise and repeat as necessary. Just remember
to always vary the direction the sound comes from. You
might need a helper to produce the alternate sounds in
time.
> and pulled me down-
In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.
> -since I do not walk or move very well, falling down is
> a major problem as I can not get up without much help.
He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.
> He bite me when my hand went close to his mouth while I was
> falling.
Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's in a fury protecting
you.
> The second time was when we were going down the street-
> -I use an electric cart
Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.
> and a man walked toward us and He saw him before I did
That would complicate and slow things down.
> and took off-
In a couple days you'll have the control to stop him after
he's started.
> -lunging barking and snapping again I got my hand within
> reach of his mouth and he bite me-
That was predictable!
> -he bites what every is close.
At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!
> When he is not in a rage he will let me doing anything-
Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is the kind of
dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...
> -take is food away, touch him anywhere, or do anything to
> him-
Perfect.
> -and he will never even raise his lip but when he goes
> off he is in another world.
Yeah, kinda like me...
> You are my last hope-
You're gonna be EZ.
> -he works to help me at home--he picks up anything on the
> floor, closes doors, picks up the daily paper and will stand to
>brace me when I stand up on my bad days.
He sounds like a great dog!
> He waits for me to go out the door first and will wait until
> I call him to come in and close the door.
He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.
> He really helps me everyday and if I didn't have him life
> would much harder.
We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.
> But I know if we can not solve the "rage" problem
Pssst! It's already in the bag...
> he will bite someone other than me and will have to be
> killed.
Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.
> Your method seems so simple
It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me if you
need any help. I've got all kinds of fast EZ solutions
for any problem you could encounter.
> after all we have tried it does not seem possible to
> change his behavior easily-
Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force
and confrontation.
> -but I will start trying tomorrow.
And instead of trying to force him to stay in control,
you'll PRAISE his first aggressive thought and he'll
move in close to YOU to protect you, not charge at
others. He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll do
EVERY THING you ask the first time.
I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.
> I use a Halti so he does not pull me over-usually!
Right, but here again, you're relying on some degree
of force to control him. That will ALWAYS trigger
the OPPOSITE of what we want, telling him to be
aggressive, not to pay attention to you and your safety.
Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a shoe horn
to PRY him AWAY from you.
In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone all you'll
have to do is let him see someone and gently pull back
on his collar without sayin nuthin, and that'll set him off...
> but have never used punishment, choke collar or any
> other "corrections"
Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.
> I taught him all his tricks and tasks with a clicker and
> food.
Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the click differently
for our puporses.
> Thanks for your help in advance-
CONGRATULATIONS in advance...
> -I pray your method will be our salvation!!!
No need to. It's already DONE.
> Linda
Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.
Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.
Yours, Jerry.
============================
------Original Message -----
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!
Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!
Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.
Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.
The word come has no affect on him just the phrase--Sunshine
come goodboy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To: Lindalee
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!
----- Original Message -----
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
HOWEDY Linda,
> I am not sure what happened but after two days
> Sunshine walked with me not sniffing, pulling or
> going his own way. In two and a half years he
> has never walked without his nose to the ground-
> -today he walked closer to the cart than ever
> before and turned to look at me every few minutes-
> -in past with treats and pleading he only looked
> toward me when I had a treat in my hand.
> It is hard to believe he has really changed so quickly.
> Now I have several questions--After one time with
> throwing the can he has always come on the first call-
> -do I need to try to set him up to not come so we can
> do four times in different places?
Yup. You've got to generalize the come command to make
it 100% reliable. MISTAKES ARE GOOD. You want him to
make a few mistakes so we can get the sound associated
with the command.
> I have not tried to call him off leash outside as that is
> the time he is does not come.
O.K. You know to do the HOT & Cold and Family Leadership
Exercises and you'll have a perfect come command in a couple
fifteen minute sessions.
> On the leash he came on the first call today even when he
> was starting to explore the leaves etc.
Excellent. We discussed his penchant for eating leaves and
dirt off the ground.
> He walked past several people today with hardly a second
glance-
We also discussed that he was rather aggressive, and you
were becoming very concerned about being able to keep him.
> he did see a cat about 10 feet away and when I called him
> the first time he did not respond but when I used the can he
> ran over to me and seemed to forget about the cat.
PERFECT. Next time you'll probably not need the sound.
Just remember to vary the origin of the sound each time,
day in to day out, the sequence never breaks.
> Now what do I do when he sees another dog?
You'll tell him GOOD BOY and prepare to make the sound
and praise if he continues looking, and if that fails, you'll
ask him to come, keeping in mind the sequence of the
commands with sound and the distract/praise techniques.
You'll get used to thinking that fast in a couple more days,
no problem.
> Although the calling him the four times seems easy it was
> very hard-
Yes, it takes a bit of a knack to get it just right, but if
you fail, not to worry, you'll be able to get it right the
next time.
We don't lose points for "do overs" as long as we get the
pup under control fast and EZ. That's HOWE COME that
dependable come command is so necessary.
> -I had a friend which was good since I had a lot of trouble
> calling the right way and using the can at the same time.
Yes, I recommended you may want a friend to help because
of your disability.
> I found out I had been calling him many times each time
> I called him to come.
Right. Should be about a second between requests and
the sounds on the second and fourth commands and move
off into the FPLX if that fails, and continue the technique.
EZ, huh???
> I am still working on the leash it is really hard when you
> are not standing upright as the leash can not be as loose
> since it drags on the ground-
Yeah, I don't know if you're able, but do try to handle the
lead exactly as instructed. It'll feel uncomfortable for a
few days, but we don't want that lead tangling and
accidentally pullin on him.
>-I am so worried without the leash around my hand
Psst! If you've got fair strength in your hands, let me
do the worrying for you... O.K.?
> but I am not sure if it was the leash,
Well, you know I told you it was the overcontrol of
the lead that triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition
reflex.
> telling him good boy everytime he looked at me
That ALWAYS works. All my Mrs. got to do is tell me
good boy and I'll do anything she asks. Hey? I think
I just figgered out HOWE COME she always gets
her way with me...
> or the cans,
Any sound will suffice, even an extraneous and coincidentally
but well timed sound will work, maybe even BETTER.
> but today seemed like a miracle.
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!
> I told a friend about this approach and they thought you
> were on "Today" this spring--was it you?
Naaah. There's nobody that has such fast EZ safe gentle
methods. I'll be on TV soon enough with my Doggy Do Right
(And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two
Did Too) machine.
But that's just gonna give me the floor to discuss the state
of the art of the animal behavior industry.
Would you do me a favor? If you're on the internet, I'd sure
appreciate it if you'd repost this to the groups, a lot of
people are saying terrible things about me and tellin folks
reports like yours, are FORGERIES by ME.
Thank you for being a good student.
Yours, Jerry.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:24 PM
To: Lindalee
Subject: Re: dog aggression
Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect or I'll get the
heel outta this business... Yours, Jerry.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks for the encouragement
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:35 AM
To: Lindaleee
Subject: Re: dog aggression
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
HOWEDY Linda,
> I got your message tonight and have printed
> your manual--will start tomorrow--
Excellent.
> I am truly at my wits end!!!
Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!
> Today he bite me twice breaking the skin when he was in a
> "rage" .
He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking about you when he
bites. He's just overexcited trying to PROTECT you. That'll
diminish immediately through simply handling the lead
properly, gettin the control and attention through the praise
conditioning, and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control.
EZ stuff.
> Once when he saw another dog-ran toward the dog
Sound/praise and repeat as necessary. Just remember
to always vary the direction the sound comes from. You
might need a helper to produce the alternate sounds in
time.
> and pulled me down-
In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.
> -since I do not walk or move very well, falling down is
> a major problem as I can not get up without much help.
He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.
> He bite me when my hand went close to his mouth while I was
> falling.
Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's in a fury protecting
you.
> The second time was when we were going down the street-
> -I use an electric cart
Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.
> and a man walked toward us and He saw him before I did
That would complicate and slow things down.
> and took off-
In a couple days you'll have the control to stop him after
he's started.
> -lunging barking and snapping again I got my hand within
> reach of his mouth and he bite me-
That was predictable!
> -he bites what every is close.
At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!
> When he is not in a rage he will let me doing anything-
Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is the kind of
dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...
> -take is food away, touch him anywhere, or do anything to
> him-
Perfect.
> -and he will never even raise his lip but when he goes
> off he is in another world.
Yeah, kinda like me...
> You are my last hope-
You're gonna be EZ.
> -he works to help me at home--he picks up anything on the
> floor, closes doors, picks up the daily paper and will stand
> to brace me when I stand up on my bad days.
He sounds like a great dog!
> He waits for me to go out the door first and will wait until
> I call him to come in and close the door.
He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.
> He really helps me everyday and if I didn't have him life
> would much harder.
We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.
> But I know if we can not solve the "rage" problem
Pssst! It's already in the bag...
> he will bite someone other than me and will have to be
> killed.
Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.
> Your method seems so simple
It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me if you
need any help. I've got all kinds of fast EZ solutions
for any problem you could encounter.
> after all we have tried it does not seem possible to
> change his behavior easily-
Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force
and confrontation.
> -but I will start trying tomorrow.
And instead of trying to force him to stay in control,
you'll PRAISE his first aggressive thought and he'll
move in close to YOU to protect you, not charge at
others. He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll do
EVERY THING you ask the first time.
I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.
> I use a Halti so he does not pull me over-usually!
Right, but here again, you're relying on some degree
of force to control him. That will ALWAYS trigger
the OPPOSITE of what we want, telling him to be
aggressive, not to pay attention to you and your safety.
Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a shoe horn
to PRY him AWAY from you.
In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone all you'll
have to do is let him see someone and gently pull back
on his collar without sayin nuthin, and that'll set him off...
> but have never used punishment, choke collar or any
> other "corrections"
Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.
> I taught him all his tricks and tasks with a clicker and
> food.
Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the click differently
for our puporses.
> Thanks for your help in advance-
CONGRATULATIONS in advance...
> -I pray your method will be our salvation!!!
No need to. It's already DONE.
> Linda.
Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.
Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.
Yours, Jerry.
================================
--------Original Post-----------
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!
Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-
-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.
Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.
Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.
I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.
If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.
I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.
--- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!
HOWEDY Linda,
Your words are music to my ears, and are my
sunshine.
Thank you for being a good student. I'm available
any time you have a question or whatever.
Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.
Yours, Jerry.
============================
> "Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> > "Skip Middleton" wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on...
;-)
> >
> >
> > Aha. I know what you mean- especially from the dimwits who
haven't
> > figured out that they can use the "delete" or "cut" key to
remove sixty
> > billion lines of quoted ranting from their one-sentence
replies, and then
> > add insult to injury by bottom-posting. <G>
> >
> > BTW, which group are you posting from? Your name looks
familiar; I think
> > I've seen posts from you on my occasional forays into the
rec.photo
> groups.
> >
> > --
> > Sarah
> > Brenin, CGC, AD, O-EAC-V, O-EJC-V, EGC
> > Gwydion, Handy Cat
> > Morag Thistledown, Novice and Open Triple Superiors, EAC,
O-EJC
> > Robyn Meezer, Inspector of Human Activity
> > Rocsi Cadarn, S-NJC, O-NAC, O-NGC, O-OAC NGTG, OGTG
> >
> > we can be seen at: http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs1
> > and http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs2
> >
> >
>
>
> Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid >Jerry.
What makes you think "Ted" is a real person, rather than a JH sock puppet?
Do you really think anybody else would have crossposted to the woodworking
and photo groups?
> How
> dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
Er- you're doing exactly the same thing by replying and leaving all 5
groups "Ted" posted to in the headers.
If you reply to *this* post, please do everyone a favor, and trim the
headers to the group you're posting from and rec.pets.dogs.breeds (which is
where I am). I can't tell which of the five groups you've posted to is your
"home" group, so I'm forced to cross-post in reply.
> It's more fun that getting all this crap. Fat lot of good it did to
report
> him, though, apparently...
Skip, I'm crossposting my reply because I can't tell which group you're
originating from- if by "him" you mean Jerry Howe aka the "Puppy Wizard",
good luck.
The rec.pets.dogs groups have been infested with him for almost six years-
he's been booted from several ISPs, but always finds another provider. In
case you hadn't already figured this out, he's an unstable person who has an
obsession with USENET in general and the dog groups in particular.
In short, he's the USENET equivalent of those sad people you sometimes see
ranting and raving on streetcorners, accosting passersby with their
delusions about conspiracies and grandiose fantasies of their own
importance.
Most of the rec.pets.dogs.xxx regulars have found it best to simply ignore
and/or killfile him; posts complaining to/about him only serve to feed his
illness.
"Skip Middleton" wrote:
> Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on... ;-)
Aha. I know what you mean- especially from the dimwits who haven't
figured out that they can use the "delete" or "cut" key to remove sixty
billion lines of quoted ranting from their one-sentence replies, and then
add insult to injury by bottom-posting. <G>
BTW, which group are you posting from? Your name looks familiar; I think
I've seen posts from you on my occasional forays into the rec.photo groups.
--
Sarah
Brenin, CGC, AD, O-EAC-V, O-EJC-V, EGC
Gwydion, Handy Cat
Morag Thistledown, Novice and Open Triple Superiors, EAC, O-EJC
Robyn Meezer, Inspector of Human Activity
Rocsi Cadarn, S-NJC, O-NAC, O-NGC, O-OAC NGTG, OGTG
we can be seen at: http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs1
and http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs2
plonk plonk
--
David Sweeney
STI
QK9SARG
"Send Seek Find"
www.qk9sarg.org
www.qk9sarg.org
"me and bobby mcgee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> PLONK
>
>
HOWEDY Ted,
Thank you.
The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
"Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have created
for
> training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the new
> version is available for human children! Thank you for your
service to
> humanity!
I'm over at rec.****.35mm.
--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
"Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Skip Middleton" wrote:
>
>
> > Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on... ;-)
>
>
> Aha. I know what you mean- especially from the dimwits who haven't
> figured out that they can use the "delete" or "cut" key to remove sixty
> billion lines of quoted ranting from their one-sentence replies, and then
> add insult to injury by bottom-posting. <G>
>
> BTW, which group are you posting from? Your name looks familiar; I think
> I've seen posts from you on my occasional forays into the rec.photo
groups.
>
> --
> Sarah
> Brenin, CGC, AD, O-EAC-V, O-EJC-V, EGC
> Gwydion, Handy Cat
> Morag Thistledown, Novice and Open Triple Superiors, EAC, O-EJC
> Robyn Meezer, Inspector of Human Activity
> Rocsi Cadarn, S-NJC, O-NAC, O-NGC, O-OAC NGTG, OGTG
>
> we can be seen at: http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs1
> and http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs2
>
>
HOWEDY sinofabitch,
"Sionnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Skip Middleton" wrote:
>
>
> > Well, I've kill filed him too, but the replies linger on...
;-)
>
INDEEDY. That's the nature of the beast.
> Aha. I know what you mean- especially from the dimwits who
haven't
> figured out that they can use the "delete" or "cut" key to
remove sixty
> billion lines of quoted ranting from their one-sentence replies,
and then
> add insult to injury by bottom-posting. <G>
Yeah, that's particularly EMBARRASSIN, ain't it.
> BTW, which group are you posting from? Your name looks
familiar; I think
> I've seen posts from you on my occasional forays into the
rec.photo groups.
You'd think the genius would snip his own group, if he wants to
bitch...
> --
> Sarah
Here's you, sinofabitch:
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her
Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said
"GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sionnach.
Here's The Goddamned Puppy Wizard, sinofabitch:
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Can we get specific about doggydoright without
rancor?
Date: 2003-01-13 19:57:34 PST
Oh I'm real. And I am serious. This machine does what
it says. Last night we had the most quiet night for the first
time.. EVER. I figured it was just a coincidence that all..
ALL of the neighborhood dogs shut up. Today neighbor
came home.. let her obnoxious dogs outside. I reset the
machine to play... not even 30 seconds later.. silence..
hmmm? go look outside. Guess what? Their two dogs
AND pig are at our side of the fence quietly doing NOTHING.
Is it possible that for the first time in the 4.5 months we
lived here that they decided to not bark constantly..?
Sure. Is it likely that they all happen to shut the hell up
when i turn this machine on out of coincidence? Not at all.
We'll see when i turn it on at my dad's so his obnoxious,
attention craving, squaking bird tries it.
> <shaking head> There is no way you are a real person -
> you don't seem like an arsehole, just a Howe puppet.
HOWEDY Amanda,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: Soon as you left
> Kelly jumped on thebed..
For SHORE. We didn't finish her with that cause she
didn't get up there while we were togethers. So now's
your opportunity to D/P that next attempt.
> snap and praise and she followed me right out of the room.
Good. Now you got to catch her just startin to jump and you'll
break that urge FAST.
> I did scare the shit out of her.. she jumped onto the high
chair to
> eat naya's dinner and i tossed a snap... really scared her.
No. What scared her was her GUILT. She THOUGHT SHE
WAS BAD. That's NOT GOOD. If your praise was RIGHT
just after she "got scared," you're in good shape cause she
won't have anxiety over it. That will bear watching and be
prepared to follow through with the ALTERNATE sound
if she ever tries the high chair dining again...
You could set up some food on the high chair and just
break her of thinkin of taking ANYTHING unless it's
given or dropped, and you DID say you don't want them
scrambling for droppins from the kids till YOU are SHORE
that's what you want WHOM to have WHAT.
You should have a grasp of the intricacies.
> Anyway we fed them.. the tension was so nonexistant Moo
> approached her while eating...
Not bad for about fifteen minutes of feeding together and
maybe eight D/P's, correct me if I'm wrong.
> in which case i did sound praise becaise i think they
> need some time before the can approach each other.
Perhaps, but The Puppy Wizard likes to jump in with both feet...,
unlike mike d, who's "a straight leg..." That's between The Puppy
Wizard and hisself, he knows. BWWWAAAAHAJAJJAJAJAAA!!!
> But.. naya grabbed some dog food from the pantry..
That's the 3 y.o. daughter. I'm awful with names...
> and we found her feeding moo AND kelly side by side with
> kelly cleaning up the crumbs under moo without problem.
"Bless the Beast and the Children."
Well, HOWE do you know THEY didn't take if from The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method manual???
Everybody ELSE did, they're welcome, they shoulda asked
permission, but it's OK, I'll get over it, like mikey sez:
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And
Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few
Times It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."
The Puppy Wizard didn't follow the instructions. HE didn't spray
in mikeys mouth first, to DEMON-STRAIGHT for him... Just did,
HOWEver. NO PROBLEMO.
> the kids are doing great too...
Yeah, we got that pretty good on film, too. Kids LOVE
The Puppy Wizard... just like PUPPYS.
> i caught jasmine yelling MOOOVE! and i nicely said Jaaasmine...
> and she shouts GOOD GIRL CHLOE GOOD GIRL! lol.
Chloe is the 6yo child, I think.
> the kids sat down.. ate thier dinner..
Like The Puppy Wizard's Kids all do.
> Naya didn't climb from her high chair...
And miss the whole SHEBANG??? Course not!
The table is WHERE IT'S AT, nuthin else as much fun.
> and we're so frigging happy and calm..
Yeah, The Puppy Wizard has a tendency to calm folks and
make them verry verry HAPPY or VERRRY VERRRY SADLY...
The Puppy Wizard PREFERS HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!
But HE'S ALSO EXXXPERT AT SADLY... sooo sad.
> i dunno if its you or the doggy do right.. lol.. but i'm stoked!
Eschio Funi, would splain it for The Puppy Wizard. But the FACT
is, you broke the cycle of negatively interacting with the kids an
dogs in ANY WAY, and they're responding cause they are not
feeling controled, although you've got strict control, but not if
you fail to follow the techniques so we don't make anyone FEEL
BAD about their behaviors, no matter what.
> i can't thank you enough...
Don't worry about THAT... The Puppy Wizard will assist you.
> i think now i will quit second guessing myself..
It's already been DONE. Can't go nowhere WONS you see The
Wizard. Can't go back, and can't run YET. Got to let it 'Set A
SPELL,' so to speak. BWEHAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAA!!!
> and just do the technique.. now that i know i have it.
Day or two it'll be second nature to each of you
> my timing is kicking ass too...
WONS YOU GOT IT DOWN PAT, YOU WON'T NEED IT BUT RARELY.
> i'm catching them in all the right places.
INDEED. You'll break every area of concern and the pups will
have EXXXCELLLENTE behavior in a couple HOWERS... maybe less.
> I am also going to start taking them outside on lead to teach
> them to go on their side of the yard so we can quit having dog
> poop accidents :) and ruining shoes.
Train them to WON spot for a few days then send them off
lead and direct them if they stray from the route and follow
through a few times and that's the end of that.
> thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!
You can't say that enough. Don't let me interfere.... continue,
please.
> btw.. your pics are all up.
Gonna crash the whole wild goddamned WWW.
> I would like to write a jorunal of today and make a site about
> it.. with all of the pictures. Plus we'll get the video card
and
> make this training video so people can download it.
Yeah... kick my feet up for a while, maybe spend a day with The
Puppy Wizard's Mrs. and HIS puppys... now that the STATE of
The ART has been RIGHTED.
> thank you thank you thank you.
You CANNOT FLATTER The Puppy Wizard ENOUGH. PLEASE
TRY HARDER. The Puppy Wizard reveres a DEDICATED STUDENT.
> of course don't forget mrs. puppy wizard.
The Puppy Wizard SHARES EVERYTHING with HIS Mrs. and their Puppys.
> I liked her alot!
The Puppy Wizard wouldn't wanna be in HER shoes... too tight.
> You guys are cool people.
The Puppy Wizard would be nothing without HIS Mrs. Puppy Wizard.
She pulls all the strings, HE just sets there stark raven nekkid
takin all the goddamned CREDIT for it for HIMSELF.
Mrs. Puppy Wizard has been instrumental in keeping The Puppy
Wizard's postings REASONABLE when there's a dispute in The
Puppy Wizard's opinion. When Mrs. Puppy Wizard sez "you ain't
gonna post THAT are you?" The Puppy Wizard asks her to fault
the INFO. If it passes scrutiny, I know that whatever else The
Puppy Wizard sez is just frosting on the cake and got nuthing to
do with nuthing except lettin HOWER pubick KNOW HOWE IT IS.
> Spirit didn't mess up in introducing you guys..
This entire production has been crafted by the hands of the
Angels and Archangels... for EONS. Nuthin happens by
accident or coincidence.
> and i don't think they did showing me your site either.
That ain't even the half of it, Amanda. Feature THIS. Professora
Daniels CHOSE a FEMALE... and someHOWE, the papers from
the rescue org gave her F documentaion with the M pup. Vet sez
you should take her back, after havin HIM 3 days... can u believe?
Linda had been DEAD SET against a boy puppy. But she couldn't
LOOK cause she's in the chair and couldn't pich him up like that.
If Linda had the female, Sunshine might not have met US.
> I know I will be a much better parent because of you..
Yeah... ain't THAT the TRUTH...
NOW WE'RE GONNA TEACH THE UNIVERSITIES... THE HARD
WAY, if that's their PREFERENCE. That's The Puppy Wizard's
PLEASURE.
> and because of you hopefully
HOPE? PRAY? LUCK? They're abundant but risky...
DO THE WORK. Ask for HELP if you think you need it.
The EXERCISES GUARANTEE you won't NEED LUCK...
LUCK is for SUCKERS... HOPE is a WASTE cause we
KNOW we got IT comin and Pray like HEEL just cause it
wouldn't hurt, like Chicken Soup.
> my grandchildren will never ever.. ever.. feel shame or feel
> like they're not loved :).
Yeah... and that's the BEST PART, and the PRICE is FREE.
> I won't stop till everyone is doing it too :)
The Puppy Wizard thought you'd see things HIS WON WAY.
The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW;~)
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Preserving Families One Day at a Time
http://www.dcfwatch.com
He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even
his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he
establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. -- 1776
From the American Crisis by Thomas Jefferson
"Ted Rumple" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jerry, I am forever in your debt. The system you have created for
> training dogs is absolutely amazing! I can't wait until the new
> version is available for human children! Thank you for your service to
> humanity!
Damn you Ted! I had to leave rec.pets.dogs.behavior to avoid Jerry. How
dare you drag elsewhere for no reason at all.
He, and likely you, could use some sort of behavior program.
It's more fun that getting all this crap. Fat lot of good it did to report
him, though, apparently...
--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
"Lionel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Skip Middleton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > These posts are completely off topic for rec.woodworking,
rec.photo.digital
> > and rec.photo.equipment.35mm. Please stop. I've requested you to do so
> > several times, and to stop crossposting. Next step is to report you to
your
> > respective ISPs.
> >
> > --
> > Skip Middleton
> > www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
>>
> Skip is a fucking dirty rat snitch!