The most recent outbreak of the never ending, herpes like in that it
goes away for a little while only to return seemingly without having
been resolved to any satisfactory degree, discussion about board feet
has, in fact bored not only my feet but also all the area north of my
neck and it is times like this that make me glad that the live rounds
are locked away.
Then again, if it wasn't board feet it would surely be 'what blurfl
should I buy?', 'should I poly my blurfl or simply dip it in whale
shit?', 'I hear HD isn't going to sell blurfls anymore, the pricks.',
'will blurfls r us be opening a store in my neighborhood soon, even
though I live in the middle of a six thousand square mile cow
pasture?'
I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
can you post a picture? 8^} Great job, both of them.
tim collins wrote:
> Scott Cramer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>On 13 Oct 2003, Tom Watson spake unto rec.woodworking:
>>
>>
>>>The most recent outbreak of the never ending, herpes like in that it
>>>goes away for a little while only to return seemingly without having
>>>been resolved to any satisfactory degree, discussion about board feet
>>>has, in fact bored not only my feet but also all the area north of my
>>>neck and it is times like this that make me glad that the live rounds
>>>are locked away.
>>>
>>>Then again, if it wasn't board feet it would surely be 'what blurfl
>>>should I buy?', 'should I poly my blurfl or simply dip it in whale
>>>shit?', 'I hear HD isn't going to sell blurfls anymore, the pricks.',
>>>'will blurfls r us be opening a store in my neighborhood soon, even
>>>though I live in the middle of a six thousand square mile cow
>>>pasture?'
>>>
>>>I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
>>
>> Tom, how much did you pay for that chisel? Bench or mortise chisel?
>>Is it scary sharp? Is it the same kind Norm uses? What angle did you
>>sharpen it to? Hollow ground? Did you put a microbevel on it? How are
>>you going to keep it from rusting after you get aqueous humor all over it?
>>Would a Harbor Freight chisel work as well? Does your chisel drawer have a
>>bottom in it? If yes, which way does the grain run? Are you going to get
>>a glass replacement eye, or a plastic one? What color? How are you going
>>to match the color?
>>
>>Scott, always curious
>
>
> and--whats the proper technique? Can I just jab away, or should I
> spend 80 hours making a proper jig with MDF so I can use my table saw
> to do the job (that can be done in less time with a hand tool)? Will
> using silicone lubricants on the chisle result in "Fisheyes"?
>
> tim (duck quickly)
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BRuce
Scott Cramer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 13 Oct 2003, Tom Watson spake unto rec.woodworking:
>
> > The most recent outbreak of the never ending, herpes like in that it
> > goes away for a little while only to return seemingly without having
> > been resolved to any satisfactory degree, discussion about board feet
> > has, in fact bored not only my feet but also all the area north of my
> > neck and it is times like this that make me glad that the live rounds
> > are locked away.
> >
> > Then again, if it wasn't board feet it would surely be 'what blurfl
> > should I buy?', 'should I poly my blurfl or simply dip it in whale
> > shit?', 'I hear HD isn't going to sell blurfls anymore, the pricks.',
> > 'will blurfls r us be opening a store in my neighborhood soon, even
> > though I live in the middle of a six thousand square mile cow
> > pasture?'
> >
> > I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
>
> Tom, how much did you pay for that chisel? Bench or mortise chisel?
> Is it scary sharp? Is it the same kind Norm uses? What angle did you
> sharpen it to? Hollow ground? Did you put a microbevel on it? How are
> you going to keep it from rusting after you get aqueous humor all over it?
> Would a Harbor Freight chisel work as well? Does your chisel drawer have a
> bottom in it? If yes, which way does the grain run? Are you going to get
> a glass replacement eye, or a plastic one? What color? How are you going
> to match the color?
>
> Scott, always curious
and--whats the proper technique? Can I just jab away, or should I
spend 80 hours making a proper jig with MDF so I can use my table saw
to do the job (that can be done in less time with a hand tool)? Will
using silicone lubricants on the chisle result in "Fisheyes"?
tim (duck quickly)
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [SS'ing Blue Chips]
>
> Should I just go back to 60 grit and keep scratching at it until the tip
> goes straight across? Is this crowning at the tip part of an eventual
> process of slightly changing the angle? If I keep going until it evens up,
> will it come out OK in the end, or am I just ruining yet another chisel?
From the sound of it, the chisel edge wasn't square to its sides
out of the package. Unfortunately, that's not uncommon. You might
want to verify that by taking a small combo or try-square, holding it
against either side and sliding it up until you almost reach the edge.
It should be obvious if the edge is off.
If that's the case, then just keep going until you get all the way
across the edge. You'll know when you feel a burr all the way across
the back.
> Should I go lower than 60 grit? I used up three sheets on one chisel. The
> abrasive is mostly gone, and it's not cutting worth a damn.
What kind of abrasive are you using? If you can get your hands on
the stuff the Norton "blue belts" are made from (alumina zirconium or
some such), I think you'll find that it outperforms standard wet-dry
for re-doing an edge.
You might also want to consider contacting the folks at Precision
Surfaces: http://www.psidragon.com/ They have a wide variety of
PSA-backed lapping and microfinishing films, and are very helpful in
getting you set up. (They also are aware of the SS system, so if you
mention what you're using it for, they should be able to help.)
Finally, are you brushing the abrasive sheets off every so often?
> What if I say piss on the mirror shine for the entire bevel, and just start
> a new micro-bevel? I guess that's pointless now that the blade has started
> to crown.
You could still do that, but I'd recommend you just go ahead and
get the whole bevel done. Once you've done it once, you can
concentrate on giving the blade a slight microbevel and it will only
take a couple of minutes to sharpen/hone unless you really ding up the
edge.
> So much for the Veritas flummy being the magical answer to my prayers. It's
> no good if I'm too stupid to use it.
It's not necessarily your fault. You'll find quite a few folks on
the wreck who feel that there is no single sharpening jig currently
being made that is the answer to all of our prayers. The Veritas has
the nice wide wheel and the micro-bevel setting feature, but the
clamping system can be a pain (as you fond out) as it's prone to
slipping and it can be tough to register the blade for squareness.
The side-clamping ones (Eclipse) are great for getting an iron square,
but they have narrow rollers and don't handle narrow chisels well.
There is a newer, pricey English model that was shown in the Garrett
Wade catalog (?) that looks like it would be great for chisels, but
won't handle wider blades.
So some of us are hoping that some enterprising company will
combine the various good features into one (affordable) "ultimate"
sharpening jig. (And of course, some folks make their own.)
Until then, I just use the Eclipse when possible for squaring an
iron or blade, use the Veritas only when I have to, and after getting
an edge square, I freehand to hone. It's a skill worth learning
anyhow.
Chuck Vance
I love finding one of those "you know" types. At every
utterance of a "you know" I interrupt with: "No, I don't
know. You're telling the story.". Drives 'em right up the
wall.
Art
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Like, you know, "like" is ALMOST, you know, as bad as "you know", you
know.
>
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> Last update: 9/21/03
>
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> > Like, I saw this bill board, and like it had like an odometer on it and
> like
> > it counted up to like 7,844,982. And like it was also asked, like how
> many
> > times has your teenage daughter like said "like" today? And like it
also
> > indicated that "like" barely edged out "what ever".
>
>
Like, you know, "like" is ALMOST, you know, as bad as "you know", you know.
--
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Last update: 9/21/03
"Leon" wrote in message
> Like, I saw this bill board, and like it had like an odometer on it and
like
> it counted up to like 7,844,982. And like it was also asked, like how
many
> times has your teenage daughter like said "like" today? And like it also
> indicated that "like" barely edged out "what ever".
Yeah,,, like, you know what I'm sayin? ;~)
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Like, you know, "like" is ALMOST, you know, as bad as "you know", you
know.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 9/21/03
>
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> > Like, I saw this bill board, and like it had like an odometer on it and
> like
> > it counted up to like 7,844,982. And like it was also asked, like how
> many
> > times has your teenage daughter like said "like" today? And like it
also
> > indicated that "like" barely edged out "what ever".
>
>
Like, I saw this bill board, and like it had like an odometer on it and like
it counted up to like 7,844,982. And like it was also asked, like how many
times has your teenage daughter like said "like" today? And like it also
indicated that "like" barely edged out "what ever".
"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
>
> "First we were like 'Whoa'! And then we were like 'Whoa'!! And then you
were
> like 'Whoooa.
> You've got serious thrill issues, dude."
>
> Crush
> Crusin the EAC
> Finding Nemo
>
>
On 13 Oct 2003, Tom Watson spake unto rec.woodworking:
> The most recent outbreak of the never ending, herpes like in that it
> goes away for a little while only to return seemingly without having
> been resolved to any satisfactory degree, discussion about board feet
> has, in fact bored not only my feet but also all the area north of my
> neck and it is times like this that make me glad that the live rounds
> are locked away.
>
> Then again, if it wasn't board feet it would surely be 'what blurfl
> should I buy?', 'should I poly my blurfl or simply dip it in whale
> shit?', 'I hear HD isn't going to sell blurfls anymore, the pricks.',
> 'will blurfls r us be opening a store in my neighborhood soon, even
> though I live in the middle of a six thousand square mile cow
> pasture?'
>
> I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
Tom, how much did you pay for that chisel? Bench or mortise chisel?
Is it scary sharp? Is it the same kind Norm uses? What angle did you
sharpen it to? Hollow ground? Did you put a microbevel on it? How are
you going to keep it from rusting after you get aqueous humor all over it?
Would a Harbor Freight chisel work as well? Does your chisel drawer have a
bottom in it? If yes, which way does the grain run? Are you going to get
a glass replacement eye, or a plastic one? What color? How are you going
to match the color?
Scott, always curious
"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
"First we were like 'Whoa'! And then we were like 'Whoa'!! And then you were
like 'Whoooa.
You've got serious thrill issues, dude."
Crush
Crusin the EAC
Finding Nemo
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:16:55 -0400, Tom Watson
<[email protected]> pixelated:
>The most recent outbreak of the never ending, herpes like in that it
>goes away for a little while only to return seemingly without having
>been resolved to any satisfactory degree, discussion about board feet
>has, in fact bored not only my feet but also all the area north of my
>neck and it is times like this that make me glad that the live rounds
>are locked away.
>
>Then again, if it wasn't board feet it would surely be 'what blurfl
>should I buy?', 'should I poly my blurfl or simply dip it in whale
>shit?', 'I hear HD isn't going to sell blurfls anymore, the pricks.',
>'will blurfls r us be opening a store in my neighborhood soon, even
>though I live in the middle of a six thousand square mile cow
>pasture?'
>
>I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
ROTFLSHIAPMP, Tawm. That was even better than the story.
P.S: Got Bandaids?
Tom Watson wrote:
> I think I'll stick this freshly sharpened chisel in my eye now.
Speaking of which, I finally got the nerve to sharpen my new chisels...
Marples Blue Chip. I could just hone the micro-bevel as suggested on the
package, but I want to hone the entire thing and make it purty, just
because I do.
So dammit, I'm screwing it up. It's hitting more on one side than the
other, and starting to round just a smidge. I quit with the rough grit and
went ahead through the motions of 100 150 220 320 400 600 800 1000 1200
1500 2000 real quick, with just 20 strokes on each. 3/4 of the edge has a
mirror shine, while the remaining corner looks like it's still at about
100.
This suggests to me that I'm not sharpening it with the bevel perfectly
perpendicular to the guide, and I'm skewing the tip. I'm using the Veritas
guide, set with the setter thingie, and by eyeball it sure looks parallel
to a groove on either side. Even cranking down on that brass thing hard, I
can still skew it a little if I'm not careful. However, I'm *being*
careful, and checking it frequently, and it's remaining in the same
orientation.
Should I just go back to 60 grit and keep scratching at it until the tip
goes straight across? Is this crowning at the tip part of an eventual
process of slightly changing the angle? If I keep going until it evens up,
will it come out OK in the end, or am I just ruining yet another chisel?
Should I go lower than 60 grit? I used up three sheets on one chisel. The
abrasive is mostly gone, and it's not cutting worth a damn.
What if I say piss on the mirror shine for the entire bevel, and just start
a new micro-bevel? I guess that's pointless now that the blade has started
to crown.
Dammit.
So much for the Veritas flummy being the magical answer to my prayers. It's
no good if I'm too stupid to use it.
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