MM

[email protected] (MyOwnPlanet)

04/09/2004 7:52 AM

Hardwood floors and felt?

It is recommended that 3# felt be placed under wood flooring as it is
layed. What is the purpose of that? or "multi" purpose of that?

I have torn older floors up before that did not have any underlayment
(just subfloor). Were those floors installed incorrectly? or is felt a
new thing?

LP


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"Slowhand"

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

04/09/2004 11:46 AM


"MyOwnPlanet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It is recommended that 3# felt be placed under wood flooring as it is
> layed. What is the purpose of that? or "multi" purpose of that?
>
> I have torn older floors up before that did not have any underlayment
> (just subfloor). Were those floors installed incorrectly? or is felt a
> new thing?

Installing 3/4 t&g hardwood flooring over kraft paper directly over the
subfloor (no underlayment) has always been the norm in my neck of the woods.
The kraft paper is a water resistant membrane. I think it's the same stuff
that goes over insulation only it comes in rolls. I'm sure the 30# felt
would do the same but is prolly more expensive and overkill. IMHO of
course.
SH

MM

[email protected] (MyOwnPlanet)

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

04/09/2004 10:38 AM

I meant 30lb. felt not 3. D'oh.

MM

[email protected] (MyOwnPlanet)

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

05/09/2004 3:51 PM

"You were the person installing the recycled maple, right? How's is
going
with reducing the musty odor?"

Yes, that would be me. Things are going great, fixed the musty thing.

I have no regrets getting this wood - it has immense "history" and
will work well with my philosophy in life :)

Dj

"Dave jackson"

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

04/09/2004 11:07 PM

The Real reason it is there, whether it be kraft paper, red rosin paper, or
felt paper is to eliminate squeaks. It simply creates a barrier between
flooring and subfloor to eliminate wood rubbing against wood. Any one of
the products listed above serve the same purpose equally well. There is no
need for a moisture barrier, and none of these products are meant for that
purpose on a floor. The papers listed above are all close to each other in
price, and are similar in installation with felt paper being somewhat more
difficult simply because it is thicker, and the creosote gets on your hands.
"Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> >
> > "MyOwnPlanet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> It is recommended that 3# felt be placed under wood flooring as it is
> >> layed. What is the purpose of that? or "multi" purpose of that?
> >>
> >> I have torn older floors up before that did not have any underlayment
> >> (just subfloor). Were those floors installed incorrectly? or is felt
> >> a new thing?
> >
> > Installing 3/4 t&g hardwood flooring over kraft paper directly over
> > the subfloor (no underlayment) has always been the norm in my neck of
> > the woods. The kraft paper is a water resistant membrane. I think
> > it's the same stuff that goes over insulation only it comes in rolls.
> > I'm sure the 30# felt would do the same but is prolly more expensive
> > and overkill. IMHO of course.
> > SH
> >
> The paper has a few reasons for being there but the two main reasons
> benefit the installer. One is it's easier to see your lines when you're
> marking the joist (all installers don't mark / nail the joist but
> whenever possible it should be done). Two is that it makes it alot
> easier to kick the pieces into place - the flooring moves easier on
> paper than bare subfloor. As for it being a moisture barrier, it doesn't
> hurt but there are much more effective moisture barriers.
>
> Adam
>

Ap

Adam

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

04/09/2004 8:15 PM

"Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in news:[email protected]:

>
> "MyOwnPlanet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> It is recommended that 3# felt be placed under wood flooring as it is
>> layed. What is the purpose of that? or "multi" purpose of that?
>>
>> I have torn older floors up before that did not have any underlayment
>> (just subfloor). Were those floors installed incorrectly? or is felt
>> a new thing?
>
> Installing 3/4 t&g hardwood flooring over kraft paper directly over
> the subfloor (no underlayment) has always been the norm in my neck of
> the woods. The kraft paper is a water resistant membrane. I think
> it's the same stuff that goes over insulation only it comes in rolls.
> I'm sure the 30# felt would do the same but is prolly more expensive
> and overkill. IMHO of course.
> SH
>
The paper has a few reasons for being there but the two main reasons
benefit the installer. One is it's easier to see your lines when you're
marking the joist (all installers don't mark / nail the joist but
whenever possible it should be done). Two is that it makes it alot
easier to kick the pieces into place - the flooring moves easier on
paper than bare subfloor. As for it being a moisture barrier, it doesn't
hurt but there are much more effective moisture barriers.

Adam

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

05/09/2004 5:04 AM

[email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I meant 30lb. felt not 3. D'oh.

Do you have a local building inspection department? What would they look
for? No one would be better informed regarding practices local to you.

You were the person installing the recycled maple, right? How's is going
with reducing the musty odor?

Patriarch

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

04/09/2004 1:26 PM

On 4 Sep 2004 10:38:08 -0700, [email protected]
(MyOwnPlanet) calmly ranted:

>I meant 30lb. felt not 3. D'oh.

Oh, roofing tarpaper, eh? I thought you meant hat fabric.


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"Mark L."

in reply to [email protected] (MyOwnPlanet) on 04/09/2004 7:52 AM

05/09/2004 3:07 PM

Yeah, what he said. The main reason is to minimize/eliminate squeaking
between the 2 wood surfaces. Mark L.

Dave jackson wrote:

> The Real reason it is there, whether it be kraft paper, red rosin paper, or
> felt paper is to eliminate squeaks. It simply creates a barrier between
> flooring and subfloor to eliminate wood rubbing against wood. Any one of
> the products listed above serve the same purpose equally well. There is no
> need for a moisture barrier, and none of these products are meant for that
> purpose on a floor. The papers listed above are all close to each other in
> price, and are similar in installation with felt paper being somewhat more
> difficult simply because it is thicker, and the creosote gets on your hands.
> "Adam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>


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