In article
<2c8a6bad-3ec3-4207-a988-1a9f89aa22df@l16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 31, 11:02 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On 31 May 2012 22:30:29 GMT, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> > >Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:jq8qp9$edv$1
> > >@dont-email.me:
> >
> > >> This is pretty cool:
> >
> > >>http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
> >
> > >> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
> >
> > >>http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
> >
> > >This could be a good project for learning precision woodworking. It
> > >doesn't take much wood, and the guts are easily available. You can carve
> > >the top if you want, or some simple designs can be done with a bandsaw
> > >and sander. (My mouse has a slight arc from back to front and is flat
> > >across the surface.)
> >
> > >Oh, to sum up the first link: Use a CNC machine to carve out a mouse in
> > >wood.
> >
> > Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
> > CNC router. I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
> > finish it...
> >
> > I wonder how many he sells at 800-1250 euros apiece, though.
> >
> > --
> > Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
> > -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton
>
> Where are you at with that thang C-less?
I think his first project will be a bow-saur...
In article <[email protected]>, Steve Turner
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>
> http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
Does he start with a whole tree per mouse? Yikes!
--
Woodworking and more at <http://www.woodenwabbits.com>
In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Didn't I tell you guys that I found the pieces I made for the bowsaur?
> After all that, I decided that I really didn't want/need one. ;)
>
> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
Good grief! I thought I was the only one with a shop that cluttered!
And is that a Crapsman router table I see?
--
Life. Nature's way of keeping meat fresh. -- Dr. Who
On May 31, 11:02=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 31 May 2012 22:30:29 GMT, Puckdropper
>
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> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:jq8qp9$edv$=
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> >@dont-email.me:
>
> >> This is pretty cool:
>
> >>http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
>
> >> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>
> >>http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
>
> >This could be a good project for learning precision woodworking. =A0It
> >doesn't take much wood, and the guts are easily available. =A0You can ca=
rve
> >the top if you want, or some simple designs can be done with a bandsaw
> >and sander. =A0(My mouse has a slight arc from back to front and is flat
> >across the surface.)
>
> >Oh, to sum up the first link: =A0Use a CNC machine to carve out a mouse =
in
> >wood.
>
> Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
> CNC router. =A0I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
> finish it...
>
> I wonder how many he sells at 800-1250 euros apiece, though.
>
> --
> Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Elizabeth Cady=
Stanton
Where are you at with that thang C-less?
On Jun 1, 2:41=A0am, Dave Balderstone <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article
> <2c8a6bad-3ec3-4207-a988-1a9f89aa2...@l16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
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> Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On May 31, 11:02=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > On 31 May 2012 22:30:29 GMT, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)co=
m> wrote:
> > > >Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:jq8qp9$=
edv$1
> > > >@dont-email.me:
>
> > > >> This is pretty cool:
>
> > > >>http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
>
> > > >> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>
> > > >>http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
>
> > > >This could be a good project for learning precision woodworking. =A0=
It
> > > >doesn't take much wood, and the guts are easily available. =A0You ca=
n carve
> > > >the top if you want, or some simple designs can be done with a bands=
aw
> > > >and sander. =A0(My mouse has a slight arc from back to front and is =
flat
> > > >across the surface.)
>
> > > >Oh, to sum up the first link: =A0Use a CNC machine to carve out a mo=
use in
> > > >wood.
>
> > > Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
> > > CNC router. =A0I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
> > > finish it...
>
> > > I wonder how many he sells at 800-1250 euros apiece, though.
>
> > > --
> > > Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Elizabeth =
Cady Stanton
>
> > Where are you at with that thang C-less?
>
> I think his first project will be a bow-saur...
I call that AdzTech.
Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:jq8qp9$edv$1
@dont-email.me:
> This is pretty cool:
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
>
> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>
> http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
>
This could be a good project for learning precision woodworking. It
doesn't take much wood, and the guts are easily available. You can carve
the top if you want, or some simple designs can be done with a bandsaw
and sander. (My mouse has a slight arc from back to front and is flat
across the surface.)
Oh, to sum up the first link: Use a CNC machine to carve out a mouse in
wood.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
>>> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
---------------------------------
If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18 months,
throw it away.
2 years from now, you may be able to see the floor.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:4fcab72a$0$1294
[email protected]:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
>>>> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
>
> ---------------------------------
> If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18 months,
> throw it away.
>
> 2 years from now, you may be able to see the floor.
>
> Lew
>
It's a good place to start. Consider all those assorted things you've
kept for a few years because you might need them later. If you haven't
even thought about them for 18 months, you probably won't remember them
when the time comes to use them.
The rule doesn't have to be applied strictly, it's just a good place to
start. The process does work, I've used it.
By the way... If you bought something for a project and didn't use it,
the big box stores will take it back sometimes a year later and give you
credit for it. Tools and "style"-type items (curtains, rugs, etc) you
may not get full credit for, but things like pipe and fittings are common
enough they almost never get clearanced out. Good way to get rid of
something for a project you wound up not doing.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
>> If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18
>> months,
>> throw it away.
"Mike Marlow" wrote:
> Hell - if I had done that over all of these years, I would have
> regretted a lot of things.
-------------------------------------
Really, name 10.
-------------------------------------
> I'm not a pack rat, ....
---------------------------
Want to bet?
---------------------------
> - a lot of good stuff sits around for longer than that before it is
> needed.
-----------------------------
It's all relative.
-----------------------------
> Think about that for a moment Lew - don't you have tools or
> materials that are used less frequently than 18 months? Throw it
> away? Hell, there have been periods when I would have had to throw
> my table saw away because I had not used it in 18 months. Does that
> make any sense?
--------------------------------
Tools don't count except for cheap throw aways.
I lived for years with a company policy that you cleaned out your
files yearly and threw away anything over one year old.
Engineering documents were exempted.
As the lawyers said, you can't be forced to produce something you
don't have.
Lew
On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:19:21 -0500, Steve Turner wrote:
> This is pretty cool:
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
>
> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>
> http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
They do look nice, but at almost $1000, there are to pricy for me to.
Paul T.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18
>>> months,
>>> throw it away.
>
> "Mike Marlow" wrote:
>
>> Hell - if I had done that over all of these years, I would have
>> regretted a lot of things.
> -------------------------------------
> Really, name 10.
> -------------------------------------
10 might be hard for me to come up with off the top of my head, but I can
immediately think of a roll of aluminum tape for use on duct work, a 500 ft
roll of 1/4" nylon rope (which I hate, so I hadn't used it a lot), a roll of
flashing, sheet rock tape, my reloading equipment, a small stock of pressure
treated lumber from dismantling a section of deck after we got rid of our
pool. Those are just some that quickly come to mind that way defy the 18
month suggestion.
>
>> I'm not a pack rat, ....
> ---------------------------
>
> Want to bet?
> ---------------------------
If I am, I'm probably junior on the scale. When I tackled my work bench
earlier, I decided to do one of those 10 year cleanings. I threw out a
bunch of junk I had been keeping - just in case. Coffee cans full of parts
from door handles, etc. You know - ya never know... Stuff like that. It
was a pretty clean sweep, and all I generated was 3 garbage bags of junk.
They weren't even filled, because they got too heavy to lift without
tearing, before they filled up.
>> - a lot of good stuff sits around for longer than that before it is
>> needed.
> -----------------------------
> It's all relative.
> -----------------------------
It's funny - just this weekend we went to my mother's house for our monthly
visit to help her out some, and to visit. Had a small project to do for
her - installing a shutoff valve in the propane line for her kitchen stove.
I hadn't taken any tools with me at all this trip, so I was scrounging
around looking for a couple of things to finish off the job. It was amazing
all of the junk and clutter that I came across looking for a couple of
clamps, and some other things. The winner was this small hammer that was
stuck in a drawer. It was a cheap, all metal hammer. The handle was broken
off, the claws were broken off, and the head was a shattered remnant of what
used to be there. It was rediculous what was left of this hammer. But -
there it was, stuck in the drawer rather than having been thrown out years
ago. Ya never know...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Larry Jaques
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Didn't I tell you guys that I found the pieces I made for the
>> bowsaur? After all that, I decided that I really didn't want/need
>> one. ;)
>>
>> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
>> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
>
> Good grief! I thought I was the only one with a shop that cluttered!
>
Indeed - Larry, I'm downright proud of ya! I started some clean up in mine
this spring, but I've got a ways to go before you can really navigate the
third bay.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On May 31, 10:02=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 31 May 2012 22:30:29 GMT, Puckdropper
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:jq8qp9$edv$=
1
> >@dont-email.me:
>
> >> This is pretty cool:
>
> >>http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
>
> >> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>
> >>http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
>
> >This could be a good project for learning precision woodworking. =A0It
> >doesn't take much wood, and the guts are easily available. =A0You can ca=
rve
> >the top if you want, or some simple designs can be done with a bandsaw
> >and sander. =A0(My mouse has a slight arc from back to front and is flat
> >across the surface.)
>
> >Oh, to sum up the first link: =A0Use a CNC machine to carve out a mouse =
in
> >wood.
>
> Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
> CNC router. =A0I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
> finish it...
>
> I wonder how many he sells at 800-1250 euros apiece, though.
>
> --
> Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Elizabeth Cady=
Stanton
You know, if you could offer a matching, well executed, desk set with
turned pens you could probably raise the price to 2000 euros.
RonB
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
>>>> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
>
> ---------------------------------
> If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18 months,
> throw it away.
>
Hell - if I had done that over all of these years, I would have regretted a
lot of things. I'm not a pack rat, but let me tell ya - a lot of good stuff
sits around for longer than that before it is needed. Think about that for
a moment Lew - don't you have tools or materials that are used less
frequently than 18 months? Throw it away? Hell, there have been periods
when I would have had to throw my table saw away because I had not used it
in 18 months. Does that make any sense?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Jun 1, 8:56=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:35:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On May 31, 11:02=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
> >> CNC router. =A0I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
> >> finish it...
>
> >Where are you at with that thang C-less?
>
> I ain't "at" nowhere, Toy. =A0;)
>
> Probably 90% now. =A0I learned a lot about machining in the 220 man
> hours we put into the build. =A0I haven't drilled and tapped as many
> holes in the rest of my life as I did with this beastie.
>
> I have it shoehorned into my own shop with barely enough clearance to
> scrunch by it. I'm selling tools to get more room. =A0I thought I had
> cleared out enough, but it didn't leave any work room.
>
> The engine hoist came in handy to pick her up and move her into the
> shop. =A0She weighs about #150 sans the MDF. That's one other thing I
> need to buy and =A0install.
>
> To-Do: I have to notch a place for the chain to fit better through the
> gantry side plate, dismantle to paint her, and finally wire her up.
> Oh, I need to make and pipe a dust collector hood to the router, too.
> and wire up a relay for the spindle.
>
> I'm not sure I like the chain drive, though. I may switch over to
> toothed belt, but I'll get her up and running first.
>
Chain on X and Y, screw on Z?
P I C T U R E S !!!!! Dammit. :-)
Puckdropper wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote in news:4fcab72a$0$1294
> [email protected]:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
>>>>> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>> If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18 months,
>> throw it away.
>>
>> 2 years from now, you may be able to see the floor.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
> It's a good place to start. Consider all those assorted things you've
> kept for a few years because you might need them later. If you haven't
> even thought about them for 18 months, you probably won't remember them
> when the time comes to use them.
Oh, I'd remember them, just maybe not where me or my wife last placed
them! : ) I often repeat, if you don't know where it is, you might as
well not have it! And yes, that includes her car keys!
>
> The rule doesn't have to be applied strictly, it's just a good place to
> start. The process does work, I've used it.
>
> By the way... If you bought something for a project and didn't use it,
> the big box stores will take it back sometimes a year later and give you
> credit for it. Tools and "style"-type items (curtains, rugs, etc) you
> may not get full credit for, but things like pipe and fittings are common
> enough they almost never get clearanced out. Good way to get rid of
> something for a project you wound up not doing.
>
> Puckdropper
On 31 May 2012 22:30:29 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:jq8qp9$edv$1
>@dont-email.me:
>
>> This is pretty cool:
>>
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Wooden-mice-by-AlestRukov/
>>
>> I'd like to have one, but the prices are a bit steep for me:
>>
>> http://www.alestrukov.com/mouse/
>>
>
>This could be a good project for learning precision woodworking. It
>doesn't take much wood, and the guts are easily available. You can carve
>the top if you want, or some simple designs can be done with a bandsaw
>and sander. (My mouse has a slight arc from back to front and is flat
>across the surface.)
>
>Oh, to sum up the first link: Use a CNC machine to carve out a mouse in
>wood.
Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
CNC router. I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
finish it...
I wonder how many he sells at 800-1250 euros apiece, though.
--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton
On 03 Jun 2012 03:58:38 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:4fcab72a$0$1294
>[email protected]:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
>>>>> http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>> If you pick something up that hasn't been used in the last 18 months,
>> throw it away.
>>
>> 2 years from now, you may be able to see the floor.
>>
>> Lew
I have Lew filtered, so I hadn't seen this. For once, though, he's
right. <g>
>It's a good place to start. Consider all those assorted things you've
>kept for a few years because you might need them later. If you haven't
>even thought about them for 18 months, you probably won't remember them
>when the time comes to use them.
I've been in "declutter" mode for about 6 months now, after reading
_Clear Your Clutter with Feng Shui_ by Karen Kingston, and I've
offloaded a dozen pickups worth of "stuff" since then. Some went to
the Goodwill, some went to the metal recycler, some to the dump (extra
2/3 of trashcan filled each week for several months), and some to the
local freecycle type of folks. Some is going to Craigslist and eBay.
I'm liking the leaner me. (I've offloaded 22 lbs from myself, too,
and my BP is down 50 points, 122/73 this afternoon.)
>The rule doesn't have to be applied strictly, it's just a good place to
>start. The process does work, I've used it.
Ayup. I tossed most of my mixed screw/bolt/nail boxes and will buy a
box of each size I need as I need it instead of just buying 3 or 22.
That works great for the fasteners I often need. I found a local bolt
distributor where I got boxes of 5/16" x 1" NC zinc plated bolts,
nuts, washers, lockwashers, and nuts for a total price of $7 and
change, about 18% of the price at a hardware store.
>By the way... If you bought something for a project and didn't use it,
>the big box stores will take it back sometimes a year later and give you
>credit for it. Tools and "style"-type items (curtains, rugs, etc) you
>may not get full credit for, but things like pipe and fittings are common
>enough they almost never get clearanced out. Good way to get rid of
>something for a project you wound up not doing.
I keep all new product unless I got out of that line of work and know
I will never need it. I keep all single (and some dupes) tools, but
get rid of the types I'll never use, the broken ones, and the really
cheap crap that came in a $1 box at a garage sale.
I brought home about 1,000' of 1/8" x 5/8" nylon "tape" from a sale
yesterday, and will keep several 100'+ hanks while giving several
others away. It was used by the Hunter fiber optic/telephone/DSL
people when putting up a new feed in our neighborhood. It was a buck.
It's rated for 1,800 lbs.
Anyway, I can actually see _carpeting_ in several of my rooms
nowadays. <heh, heh, heh>
--
Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
-- Thomas Jefferson
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:27:03 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jun 1, 8:56 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:35:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On May 31, 11:02 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
>> >> CNC router. I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
>> >> finish it...
>>
>> >Where are you at with that thang C-less?
>>
>> I ain't "at" nowhere, Toy. ;)
>>
>> Probably 90% now. I learned a lot about machining in the 220 man
>> hours we put into the build. I haven't drilled and tapped as many
>> holes in the rest of my life as I did with this beastie.
>>
>> I have it shoehorned into my own shop with barely enough clearance to
>> scrunch by it. I'm selling tools to get more room. I thought I had
>> cleared out enough, but it didn't leave any work room.
>>
>> The engine hoist came in handy to pick her up and move her into the
>> shop. She weighs about #150 sans the MDF. That's one other thing I
>> need to buy and install.
>>
>> To-Do: I have to notch a place for the chain to fit better through the
>> gantry side plate, dismantle to paint her, and finally wire her up.
>> Oh, I need to make and pipe a dust collector hood to the router, too.
>> and wire up a relay for the spindle.
>>
>> I'm not sure I like the chain drive, though. I may switch over to
>> toothed belt, but I'll get her up and running first.
>>
>Chain on X and Y, screw on Z?
>
>P I C T U R E S !!!!! Dammit. :-)
On Jun 1, 2:41 am, Dave Balderstone <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think his first project will be a bow-saur...
>
>I call that AdzTech.
Didn't I tell you guys that I found the pieces I made for the bowsaur?
After all that, I decided that I really didn't want/need one. ;)
OK, here are a few pics. I don't have the dedicated site up yet.
http://homeandgardenhandyman.com/cncrouter.htm
--
In reality, serendipity accounts for one percent of the blessings
we receive in life, work and love. The other 99 percent is due to
our efforts.
-- Peter McWilliams
On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:35:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 31, 11:02 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> Hey, there's something I might be able to make money with on my new
>> CNC router. I'm slowly clearing a hole in my shop for it so I can
>> finish it...
>>
>
>Where are you at with that thang C-less?
I ain't "at" nowhere, Toy. ;)
Probably 90% now. I learned a lot about machining in the 220 man
hours we put into the build. I haven't drilled and tapped as many
holes in the rest of my life as I did with this beastie.
I have it shoehorned into my own shop with barely enough clearance to
scrunch by it. I'm selling tools to get more room. I thought I had
cleared out enough, but it didn't leave any work room.
The engine hoist came in handy to pick her up and move her into the
shop. She weighs about #150 sans the MDF. That's one other thing I
need to buy and install.
To-Do: I have to notch a place for the chain to fit better through the
gantry side plate, dismantle to paint her, and finally wire her up.
Oh, I need to make and pipe a dust collector hood to the router, too.
and wire up a relay for the spindle.
I'm not sure I like the chain drive, though. I may switch over to
toothed belt, but I'll get her up and running first.
--
In reality, serendipity accounts for one percent of the blessings
we receive in life, work and love. The other 99 percent is due to
our efforts.
-- Peter McWilliams