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notbob

27/04/2016 2:35 PM

Which douzuki saw?

Im gonaa buy a Japanese pull saw fer making finger/dovetail joints.
I'll be using them on 1/2" thk baltic birch plywood to make kitchen drawer
boxes. I'll start w/ finger joints and proceed to dovetails as I improve. Which
douzuki saw do you ppl recommend? I've been eying this one:

<http://www.amazon.com/Gyokucho-372-Razor-Dotsuki-Takebiki/dp/B006JW19U8/ref=pd_cp_469_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=12J2QN1E6RHDX0ZR4R32#Ask>

I was gonna order a Z saw, but one of the reviewers strongly
recommended a Gyokucho over a Z saw.

nb


This topic has 10 replies

h

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 5:33 PM

On 27 Apr 2016 14:35:24 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

>Im gonaa buy a Japanese pull saw fer making finger/dovetail joints.
>I'll be using them on 1/2" thk baltic birch plywood to make kitchen drawer
>boxes. I'll start w/ finger joints and proceed to dovetails as I improve. Which
>douzuki saw do you ppl recommend? I've been eying this one:
>
><http://www.amazon.com/Gyokucho-372-Razor-Dotsuki-Takebiki/dp/B006JW19U8/ref=pd_cp_469_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=12J2QN1E6RHDX0ZR4R32#Ask>
>
>I was gonna order a Z saw, but one of the reviewers strongly
>recommended a Gyokucho over a Z saw.
>
>nb



Lee Valley carries a couple models at that price-point ...
If you are near a store - you might be able to try one out ..

http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=32935&cat=1,42884,42898&ap=1

http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=70898&cat=1,42884,42898&ap=1

John T.

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Leon

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

29/04/2016 7:59 AM

On 4/28/2016 9:13 PM, graham wrote:
> On 28/04/2016 1:15 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:53:58 -0600
>> graham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
>>> dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.
>>
>> what kind of steel is it do you know
>>
>> bought a really cheap dovetail and have to keep it wrapped in plastic
>> to prevent rust
>>
>> left it out in the shop after first use for a week and it was showing
>> rust signs
>>
> Many years ago, I bought a top of the line, Spear & Jackson,
> Sheffield made, brass backed tenon saw. To protect the teeth during a move,
> I used a plastic guard, slipped over them. A few months later I noticed
> a line of corrosion where the plastic was in contact with the steel. I
> think that not all plastics are completely neutral.
> Graham
>

That or the plastic captured moisture/condensation and would not let it
escape.

b

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 1:58 PM

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 4:53:19 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 3:17:55 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:53:58 -0600
> > graham <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
> > > dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.
> >
> > what kind of steel is it do you know
> >
> > bought a really cheap dovetail and have to keep it wrapped in plastic
> > to prevent rust
> >
> > left it out in the shop after first use for a week and it was showing
> > rust signs
>
> 3 mistakes as I see it (strictly my opinions, not based on deep research or decades/scores of experience...
>
> 1. Buying a cheap saw: what did you expect?
> 2. Wrapping in plastic: needs to breathe so moisture has an opportunity to escape. Covering in plastic is altogether different
> 3. Leaving in the "shop": Should be in a drawer with either a desiccant or dehumidifier
> Otherwise, good job, well done :)

Wait. EC purchased a cheap dovetail. I have never seen one rust. Hmmm

nn

notbob

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 7:06 PM

On 2016-04-28, graham <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 27/04/2016 8:35 AM, notbob wrote:

>> I was gonna order a Z saw, but one of the reviewers strongly
>> recommended a Gyokucho over a Z saw.

> I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
> dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.

Thank you for yer reply. I'm gonna get it! ;)

nb

n

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 1:53 PM

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 3:17:55 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:53:58 -0600
> graham <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
> > dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.
>
> what kind of steel is it do you know
>
> bought a really cheap dovetail and have to keep it wrapped in plastic
> to prevent rust
>
> left it out in the shop after first use for a week and it was showing
> rust signs

3 mistakes as I see it (strictly my opinions, not based on deep research or decades/scores of experience...

1. Buying a cheap saw: what did you expect?
2. Wrapping in plastic: needs to breathe so moisture has an opportunity to escape. Covering in plastic is altogether different
3. Leaving in the "shop": Should be in a drawer with either a desiccant or dehumidifier
Otherwise, good job, well done :)

gg

graham

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 11:53 AM

On 27/04/2016 8:35 AM, notbob wrote:
> Im gonaa buy a Japanese pull saw fer making finger/dovetail joints.
> I'll be using them on 1/2" thk baltic birch plywood to make kitchen drawer
> boxes. I'll start w/ finger joints and proceed to dovetails as I improve. Which
> douzuki saw do you ppl recommend? I've been eying this one:
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Gyokucho-372-Razor-Dotsuki-Takebiki/dp/B006JW19U8/ref=pd_cp_469_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=12J2QN1E6RHDX0ZR4R32#Ask>
>
> I was gonna order a Z saw, but one of the reviewers strongly
> recommended a Gyokucho over a Z saw.
>
> nb
>
I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 12:15 PM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:53:58 -0600
graham <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
> dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.

what kind of steel is it do you know

bought a really cheap dovetail and have to keep it wrapped in plastic
to prevent rust

left it out in the shop after first use for a week and it was showing
rust signs







gg

graham

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 1:18 PM

On 28/04/2016 1:06 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-04-28, graham <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 27/04/2016 8:35 AM, notbob wrote:
>
>>> I was gonna order a Z saw, but one of the reviewers strongly
>>> recommended a Gyokucho over a Z saw.
>
>> I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
>> dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.
>
> Thank you for yer reply. I'm gonna get it! ;)
>
> nb
>
>
Try cutting with the saw vertically until you get used to the cut on the
pull.

gg

graham

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

28/04/2016 8:13 PM

On 28/04/2016 1:15 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:53:58 -0600
> graham <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have this saw, or one virtually identical, that I bought for
>> dovetails. I don't think you can go wrong.
>
> what kind of steel is it do you know
>
> bought a really cheap dovetail and have to keep it wrapped in plastic
> to prevent rust
>
> left it out in the shop after first use for a week and it was showing
> rust signs
>
Many years ago, I bought a top of the line, Spear & Jackson,
Sheffield made, brass backed tenon saw. To protect the teeth during a move,
I used a plastic guard, slipped over them. A few months later I noticed
a line of corrosion where the plastic was in contact with the steel. I
think that not all plastics are completely neutral.
Graham

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to notbob on 27/04/2016 2:35 PM

07/05/2016 9:47 AM

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:13:30 -0600
graham <[email protected]> wrote:

> Many years ago, I bought a top of the line, Spear & Jackson,
> Sheffield made, brass backed tenon saw. To protect the teeth during a
> move, I used a plastic guard, slipped over them. A few months later I
> noticed a line of corrosion where the plastic was in contact with the
> steel. I think that not all plastics are completely neutral.

yes probably true
i keep it inside the bubble wrap that it came with and it seems to
protect it











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