(Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
aware of this, I wasn't)
Marc
The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
included in California=92s Health and Safety Code.
The legislation has caused a stir among tablesaw manufacturers, with a
few posting =93legislative action advisory=94 on their websites, urging
folks to contact Williams and other members of the California Assembly
to voice their opposition to the legislation. The fear among
manufacturers is that such a law will spread quickly to other states.
If passed, the bill would go into effect Jan. 1, 2015. Any seller that
does not comply will be subject to a civil fine, with a maximum of
$5,000 per sale.
The announcement of the bill comes as the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
Commision ponders the same possible requirements on a national scale.
Leon wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>>
>> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
>> serve a great purpose.
>>
>> Robert
>
>
> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
> pretty good. A very different taste.
>
Can't find it her in GA. Can you send me a bottle to try?
--
Gerald Ross
Every vision has an equal and opposite
revision.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
>
> I HATE those spill proof gas cans and it seems a few years ago those
> showed up and nothing else is available any longer. I do spill more
> now than I did. The spout is absolutely too short to be of any good.
> I partially fixed one of its problems by disabling the lock lever you
> have to depress in order to open the valve.
>
> The ill thought POS would be 100 times better if it had a 12" flexible
> spout.
The ones I got had a detachable flexible hose, but it really didn't do
very much good. It might work for smaller cans, but the big 5 gallon
ones are just too heavy for it to be useful.
One can company had a "venting spout" design that barely worked before
this non-sense spill-proof stuff. It only worked if the can was at just
the right angle, and you didn't move it...
Whatever happened to a can that's stable in its normal position (so it's
hard to knock over), with a open spout and a vent hole on the back? Was
the design just too good? Sure, I spilled quite a bit with those cans,
but that was because the gas tank on the mower was opaque.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
In article <[email protected]>,
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
> pretty good. A very different taste.
Send us a bottle, I'll give it a try.
I normally dring the Islay malts
--
Stuart Winsor
Only plain text for emails
http://www.asciiribbon.org
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:41:18 -0400, Gerald Ross <[email protected]>
>> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
>> pretty good. A very different taste.
>Can't find it her in GA. Can you send me a bottle to try?
Hmmm! There's none up here in Canada either. Better send me a case so
me and Robatoy can pass it around.
See the rest of Robert's comments above.
> It's all been said. =A0 Over and over and over and over and over and
> over again.
>
> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>
> Nice, Marc. =A0I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
> serve a great purpose.
>
> Robert
Hey Robert,
I sincerely apologize for this. I was, and am not trying to start
another Sawstop thread and I am also not anything like Limball or
Maher. I just thought it was interesting that a State (or more
accurately, one of its Representatives) would offer to enact a law
requiring such technology.
I think I learned a lesson here; If I ever post again and it is not
strictly woodworking related I'll be sure it won't be political. An
occasional joke, sure, but no offerings to upset anyone.
Marc
(But you can also ignore any posting that has the words Saw or Stop in
them.)
NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
I'm to young for this...
I don't deserve this...
It wasn't my fault...
I'll change... please... for the love of all things sacred...
NOT ANOTHER F'IN SAWSTOP THREAD.
I don't care about civil rights violations, or having to join the
Michigan militia out of protest. I won't vote for Ron Paul so he can
stop this. I won't renounce my citizenship to this country nor be a
Dittohead because I feel put upon as a little guy.
I don't give one shit about the nanny state or the whining that
follows it. I don't care if anyone wants to cut of hands, ears,
fingers, smash their head into a spinning blade, or jump naked onto
their saw leading with their privates to cut them off and prove that
is their God given right as a human being.
Just not another Sawstop thread.
Please... all the keyboard Limbaughs... all the Bill Mahers... all
the indignant people being crushed by an unfair system... just read
the other Sawstop threads. There are many **hundreds** of responses
on some of them, many with mean nasty personal remarks fired at fellow
formites, comments on the inherent profound stupidity of people that
don't agree with a post, and personal challenges to members to be more
professional and risk their body parts in the name of personal
independence and protecting their rights.
It's all been said. Over and over and over and over and over and
over again.
Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
serve a great purpose.
Robert
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 3/16/2012 9:02 AM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>>
>> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
>> serve a great purpose.
>>
>> Robert
>
>
> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
> pretty good. A very different taste.'
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Forget the booze. Smoke a joint, it's better for you.
>
Still better in Brownies.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:)
On 3/16/2012 9:58 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Steve Barker wrote:
>
>>
>> the secret is to buy the old fashioned vented cans at farm auctions. I
>> have a couple dozen five gallon cans in perfect condition being
>> stored in a cool dark place. I'll never have one of the worthless
>> new style, slow flowing junk bastards.
>
> I am now accepting offers for Steve's old style gas cans. Please be advised
> that due to the rare and valuable nature of these cans, offers below $100
> (for a one gallon can), will not be entertained.
>
> (psssttttt... Steve - can we talk off to the side?...)
>
no way dude. find yer own. LOL!
--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email
On 3/15/2012 9:27 PM, marc rosen wrote:
> (Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
> aware of this, I wasn't)
> Marc
>
> The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
> all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
> technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
> Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
> Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
> included in Californias Health and Safety Code.
>
> The legislation has caused a stir among tablesaw manufacturers, with a
> few posting legislative action advisory on their websites, urging
> folks to contact Williams and other members of the California Assembly
> to voice their opposition to the legislation. The fear among
> manufacturers is that such a law will spread quickly to other states.
> If passed, the bill would go into effect Jan. 1, 2015. Any seller that
> does not comply will be subject to a civil fine, with a maximum of
> $5,000 per sale.
>
> The announcement of the bill comes as the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
> Commision ponders the same possible requirements on a national scale.
>
I betcha it is going to have to come with a cancer warning label also!
In article <fc5c6849-e2bd-4c0c-9a7c-1e68897ca0e4
@w1g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> (Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
> aware of this, I wasn't)
> Marc
>
> The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
> all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
> technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
> Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
> Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
> included in California?s Health and Safety Code.
>
> The legislation has caused a stir among tablesaw manufacturers, with a
> few posting ?legislative action advisory? on their websites, urging
> folks to contact Williams and other members of the California Assembly
> to voice their opposition to the legislation. The fear among
> manufacturers is that such a law will spread quickly to other states.
> If passed, the bill would go into effect Jan. 1, 2015. Any seller that
> does not comply will be subject to a civil fine, with a maximum of
> $5,000 per sale.
>
> The announcement of the bill comes as the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
> Commision ponders the same possible requirements on a national scale.
Would somebody just shoot that greedy asshole?
On 3/16/2012 9:02 AM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>>
>> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
>> serve a great purpose.
>>
>> Robert
>
>
> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
> pretty good. A very different taste.'
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Forget the booze. Smoke a joint, it's better for you.
>
Still better in Brownies.
>"marc rosen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>(Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
>aware of this, I wasn't)
> Marc
>The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
>all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
>technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
>Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
>Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
>included in Californias Health and Safety Code.
The worst part about this, from my vantage point, is that a lot of "ground
breaking" "safety related" legistlation in CA ends up being pushed in NY...
it doesn't matter if it doesn't work right, creates new problems, or costs a
lot and solves no problems... For example, though probably a national thing,
the spill proof gas cans are a good example of all of these situations. The
one way valve doesn't fit the fuel fill hole on many small engines and is so
tough to depress that you end up moving/knocking over some machines. The
solution is to remove the fill tube and pour straight from the can with or
without a funnel.... especially with the 1 and 3 gallon cans. Another area
of idiocy are some of the gun regulations... The uninteneded consequences of
feel good legislation.
John
On 3/16/2012 6:52 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>> "marc rosen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> (Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
>> aware of this, I wasn't)
>> Marc
>
>> The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
>> all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
>> technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
>> Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
>> Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
>> included in Californias Health and Safety Code.
>
> The worst part about this, from my vantage point, is that a lot of
> "ground breaking" "safety related" legistlation in CA ends up being
> pushed in NY... it doesn't matter if it doesn't work right, creates new
> problems, or costs a lot and solves no problems... For example, though
> probably a national thing, the spill proof gas cans are a good example
> of all of these situations. The one way valve doesn't fit the fuel fill
> hole on many small engines and is so tough to depress that you end up
> moving/knocking over some machines. The solution is to remove the fill
> tube and pour straight from the can with or without a funnel....
> especially with the 1 and 3 gallon cans. Another area of idiocy are some
> of the gun regulations... The uninteneded consequences of feel good
> legislation.
>
> John
I HATE those spill proof gas cans and it seems a few years ago those
showed up and nothing else is available any longer. I do spill more now
than I did. The spout is absolutely too short to be of any good. I
partially fixed one of its problems by disabling the lock lever you have
to depress in order to open the valve.
The ill thought POS would be 100 times better if it had a 12" flexible
spout.
Jack wrote:
> On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>
> .... The one way valve doesn't fit the fuel fill
>> hole on many small engines and is so tough to depress that you end up
>> moving/knocking over some machines. The solution is to remove the
>> fill tube and pour straight from the can with or without a funnel....
>> especially with the 1 and 3 gallon cans. Another area of idiocy are
>> some of the gun regulations... The uninteneded consequences of feel
>> good legislation.
>
>
> QUINNs FIRST LAW: Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of
> its stated intent
I have another: Most problems in society can be traced to a failed,
up-stream, liberal, solution to another problem (i.e., schools, homlessness,
etc.).
Gerald Ross wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>>>
>>> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
>>> serve a great purpose.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>>
>> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
>> pretty good. A very different taste.
>>
> Can't find it her in GA. Can you send me a bottle to try?
Or in NY - could you send a bottle up here as well...?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>
> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
> serve a great purpose.
>
> Robert
Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
pretty good. A very different taste.
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 02:27:28 -0700, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Leon" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>On 3/16/2012 9:02 AM, CW wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Leon" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>>>
>>> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
>>> serve a great purpose.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>>
>> Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
>> pretty good. A very different taste.'
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Forget the booze. Smoke a joint, it's better for you.
>>
>
>Still better in Brownies. :)
DANGEROUS! Once you eat one, you get the munchies and...
--
The greatest justice in life is that your
vision and looks tend to go simultaneously.
-- Kevin Bacon
Steve Barker wrote:
>
> the secret is to buy the old fashioned vented cans at farm auctions. I
> have a couple dozen five gallon cans in perfect condition being
> stored in a cool dark place. I'll never have one of the worthless
> new style, slow flowing junk bastards.
I am now accepting offers for Steve's old style gas cans. Please be advised
that due to the rare and valuable nature of these cans, offers below $100
(for a one gallon can), will not be entertained.
(psssttttt... Steve - can we talk off to the side?...)
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 3/15/2012 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>
> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
> serve a great purpose.
>
> Robert
Robert, have you tried Rebecca Creek whiskey? Made in Texas and IMHO
pretty good. A very different taste.'
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Forget the booze. Smoke a joint, it's better for you.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:02:39 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
>
>I'm to young for this...
>
>I don't deserve this...
>
>It wasn't my fault...
>
>I'll change... please... for the love of all things sacred...
>
>
>NOT ANOTHER F'IN SAWSTOP THREAD.
>
>I don't care about civil rights violations, or having to join the
>Michigan militia out of protest. I won't vote for Ron Paul so he can
>stop this. I won't renounce my citizenship to this country nor be a
>Dittohead because I feel put upon as a little guy.
>
>I don't give one shit about the nanny state or the whining that
>follows it. I don't care if anyone wants to cut of hands, ears,
>fingers, smash their head into a spinning blade, or jump naked onto
>their saw leading with their privates to cut them off and prove that
>is their God given right as a human being.
>
>
>Just not another Sawstop thread.
>
>Please... all the keyboard Limbaughs... all the Bill Mahers... all
>the indignant people being crushed by an unfair system... just read
>the other Sawstop threads. There are many **hundreds** of responses
>on some of them, many with mean nasty personal remarks fired at fellow
>formites, comments on the inherent profound stupidity of people that
>don't agree with a post, and personal challenges to members to be more
>professional and risk their body parts in the name of personal
>independence and protecting their rights.
>
>It's all been said. Over and over and over and over and over and
>over again.
>
>Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>
>Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
>serve a great purpose.
I'm witcha, Naily. The new acronym for this topic will be NAFSST.
--
Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.
This is the ultimate. -- Chuang-tzu
Leon wrote:
> On 3/15/2012 9:27 PM, marc rosen wrote:
>> (Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
>> aware of this, I wasn't)
>> Marc
>>
>> The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
>> all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
>> technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
>> Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
>> Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
>> included in Californias Health and Safety Code.
>>
>> The legislation has caused a stir among tablesaw manufacturers, with a
>> few posting legislative action advisory on their websites, urging
>> folks to contact Williams and other members of the California Assembly
>> to voice their opposition to the legislation. The fear among
>> manufacturers is that such a law will spread quickly to other states.
>> If passed, the bill would go into effect Jan. 1, 2015. Any seller that
>> does not comply will be subject to a civil fine, with a maximum of
>> $5,000 per sale.
>>
>> The announcement of the bill comes as the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
>> Commision ponders the same possible requirements on a national scale.
>>
>
> I betcha it is going to have to come with a cancer warning label also!
This reminds me of what I read in the manual for the Grizzly 690 TS
(page 86):
Safety labels warn about machine hazards and ways to prevent injury. The
owner of this machine MUST maintain the original location and
readability of the labels on the machine. If any label is
removed or becomes unreadable, REPLACE that label before using the
machine again.
The lawyers surely got to them! : )
On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
.... The one way valve doesn't fit the fuel fill
> hole on many small engines and is so tough to depress that you end up
> moving/knocking over some machines. The solution is to remove the fill
> tube and pour straight from the can with or without a funnel....
> especially with the 1 and 3 gallon cans. Another area of idiocy are some
> of the gun regulations... The uninteneded consequences of feel good
> legislation.
QUINNs FIRST LAW: Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its
stated intent
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 3/16/2012 12:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
>
Perhaps rather than participating in threads that hold no interest to
you, you could simply skip them instead of telling everyone interested
enough to read and reply how it should be...
When government insists on telling folks what they must buy,
particularly expensive wood working products, it tends to spark the
interest of woodworkers, hard as that is for you to believe. Further,
if a thread gets tons of play, it's not because people are not interested.
Further, since forced use of saw stop tech is fresh on the minds of the
dolts in government hell bent in protecting everyone from themselves,
the subject is timely. After the laws are passed, it's a little late to
do much about it.
Personally, I think anyone dumb enough to vote for dolts like Pelosi,
Brown and other left wing dingbats, probably should not be using
dangerous wood working tools to begin with, and certainly not without
intense government intervention.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
> I'm to young for this...
>
> I don't deserve this...
>
> It wasn't my fault...
>
> I'll change... please... for the love of all things sacred...
>
>
> NOT ANOTHER F'IN SAWSTOP THREAD.
>
> I don't care about civil rights violations, or having to join the
> Michigan militia out of protest. I won't vote for Ron Paul so he can
> stop this. I won't renounce my citizenship to this country nor be a
> Dittohead because I feel put upon as a little guy.
>
> I don't give one shit about the nanny state or the whining that
> follows it. I don't care if anyone wants to cut of hands, ears,
> fingers, smash their head into a spinning blade, or jump naked onto
> their saw leading with their privates to cut them off and prove that
> is their God given right as a human being.
>
>
> Just not another Sawstop thread.
>
> Please... all the keyboard Limbaughs... all the Bill Mahers... all
> the indignant people being crushed by an unfair system... just read
> the other Sawstop threads. There are many **hundreds** of responses
> on some of them, many with mean nasty personal remarks fired at fellow
> formites, comments on the inherent profound stupidity of people that
> don't agree with a post, and personal challenges to members to be more
> professional and risk their body parts in the name of personal
> independence and protecting their rights.
>
> It's all been said. Over and over and over and over and over and
> over again.
>
> Somehow... I'll bet this will be one of those.
>
> Nice, Marc. I am sure that pages of indignant bitching here will
> serve a great purpose.
>
> Robert
In article <[email protected]>, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>On 3/16/2012 12:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
> >
>
>Perhaps rather than participating in threads that hold no interest to
>you, you could simply skip them instead of telling everyone interested
>enough to read and reply how it should be...
<...snipped...>
Well, it sure didn't take long for Marc to prove his point!
--
Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Albert Einstein)
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
On 3/16/2012 7:50 PM, Larry W wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, Jack<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/16/2012 12:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
>> Perhaps rather than participating in threads that hold no interest to
>> you, you could simply skip them instead of telling everyone interested
>> enough to read and reply how it should be...
> <...snipped...>
> Well, it sure didn't take long for Marc to prove his point!
Marc made no point other than California was considering tougher Safety
standards for Table saws.
Someone else made the point that they were tired of reading threads
about Saw Stop tech and didn't deserve to read them.
My point was don't participate in threads you are not interested in.
The point is just as valid to you and anyone else that feels the need to
dictate what everyone else should be interested in.
--
Jack
Got Change: big government =====> BIG GOVERNMENT!
http://jbstein.com
In article <[email protected]>, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 3/16/2012 7:50 PM, Larry W wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>, Jack<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2012 12:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
>
>>> Perhaps rather than participating in threads that hold no interest to
>>> you, you could simply skip them instead of telling everyone interested
>>> enough to read and reply how it should be...
>> <...snipped...>
>
>> Well, it sure didn't take long for Marc to prove his point!
>
>Marc made no point other than California was considering tougher Safety
>standards for Table saws.
I meant his point where he said he realized he was risking another
crazy sawstop thread.
--
Often wrong, never in doubt.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
On 3/18/2012 8:58 AM, Larry W wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>, Jack<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 3/16/2012 7:50 PM, Larry W wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>, Jack<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/16/2012 12:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> NO... NO... IT CAN'T BE...
>>
>>>> Perhaps rather than participating in threads that hold no interest to
>>>> you, you could simply skip them instead of telling everyone interested
>>>> enough to read and reply how it should be...
>>> <...snipped...>
>>
>>> Well, it sure didn't take long for Marc to prove his point!
>>
>> Marc made no point other than California was considering tougher Safety
>> standards for Table saws.
>
> I meant his point where he said he realized he was risking another
> crazy sawstop thread.
So you agree with Nailshooter that it's fun to participate in threads
you are not even slightly interested in.
Way cool dude.
--
Jack
God save us from concerned citizens and the politicians who listen to them!
http://jbstein.com
On 3/16/2012 7:03 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 3/16/2012 6:52 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
>>> "marc rosen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> (Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
>>> aware of this, I wasn't)
>>> Marc
>>
>>> The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
>>> all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
>>> technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
>>> Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
>>> Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
>>> included in Californias Health and Safety Code.
>>
>> The worst part about this, from my vantage point, is that a lot of
>> "ground breaking" "safety related" legistlation in CA ends up being
>> pushed in NY... it doesn't matter if it doesn't work right, creates new
>> problems, or costs a lot and solves no problems... For example, though
>> probably a national thing, the spill proof gas cans are a good example
>> of all of these situations. The one way valve doesn't fit the fuel fill
>> hole on many small engines and is so tough to depress that you end up
>> moving/knocking over some machines. The solution is to remove the fill
>> tube and pour straight from the can with or without a funnel....
>> especially with the 1 and 3 gallon cans. Another area of idiocy are some
>> of the gun regulations... The uninteneded consequences of feel good
>> legislation.
>>
>> John
>
>
> I HATE those spill proof gas cans and it seems a few years ago those
> showed up and nothing else is available any longer. I do spill more now
> than I did. The spout is absolutely too short to be of any good. I
> partially fixed one of its problems by disabling the lock lever you have
> to depress in order to open the valve.
>
> The ill thought POS would be 100 times better if it had a 12" flexible
> spout.
the secret is to buy the old fashioned vented cans at farm auctions. I
have a couple dozen five gallon cans in perfect condition being stored
in a cool dark place. I'll never have one of the worthless new style,
slow flowing junk bastards.
--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:13:00 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Leon wrote:
>> On 3/15/2012 9:27 PM, marc rosen wrote:
>>> (Pasted from Fine woodwroking website. Some of you may already be
>>> aware of this, I wasn't)
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> The California State Assembly is considering a bill that will require
>>> all tablesaws sold in the state be equipped with SawStop-like
>>> technology, which can detect and prevent blade contact injuries.
>>> Called the Table Saw Safety Act, the legislation was introduced by
>>> Assemblyman Das Williams (D- Santa Barbara), and, if passed, will be
>>> included in Californias Health and Safety Code.
>>>
>>> The legislation has caused a stir among tablesaw manufacturers, with a
>>> few posting legislative action advisory on their websites, urging
>>> folks to contact Williams and other members of the California Assembly
>>> to voice their opposition to the legislation. The fear among
>>> manufacturers is that such a law will spread quickly to other states.
>>> If passed, the bill would go into effect Jan. 1, 2015. Any seller that
>>> does not comply will be subject to a civil fine, with a maximum of
>>> $5,000 per sale.
>>>
>>> The announcement of the bill comes as the U.S. Consumer Product Safety
>>> Commision ponders the same possible requirements on a national scale.
>>>
>>
>> I betcha it is going to have to come with a cancer warning label also!
>
>
>This reminds me of what I read in the manual for the Grizzly 690 TS
>(page 86):
>
>
>Safety labels warn about machine hazards and ways to prevent injury. The
>owner of this machine MUST maintain the original location and
>readability of the labels on the machine. If any label is
>removed or becomes unreadable, REPLACE that label before using the
>machine again.
>
>The lawyers surely got to them! : )
Ayup. And the first (what, NINETEEN?) pages in every electrical hand
tool is rife with warnings from the same crew of speaking weasels.
Years ago, there was a story about some idiot who lost his entire hand
when he reached up inside the _wood chipper_ from the bottom to see if
he could get whatever was stuck out the bottom. I wish I'd saved a
hard copy, as the speaking weasels had it taken off the Internet soon
thereafter. It resulted in the caution/danger signs at the bottom of
the unit.
Connected to every warning label, there is a truly mystifying DUH!
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