Why don't more people use a pocket hole?
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:19:51 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Providing the backs of the frames are flat, you can use pocket holes on the
>back sides. I just completed building 13 picture frames. I used 1 pocket
>hole screw in each corner in the back and added glue. Very strong joint.
>I can send a pic to a.b.p.w if you like.
>
>"OtterEagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to
>be
>> solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or
>ideas?
>
Look into an Incra sled. I have an Incra 1000 that I made a sled for
which looks a lot like the new Incra 5000. I have a bit more hold down
capability in mine, but the 5000 is the way to go for a "store bought"
unit. You'll be able to cut miters that close to less than 0.001"
Be sure to use biscuits or splines to keep the joints closed.
Phil
Chris wrote:
> [email protected] (OtterEagle) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to be
>>solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or ideas?
>
>
> The key is getting the miters as close to 45 degrees as possible
> (assuming of course that it is a four sided frame. I can't get them
> perfect using my CMS so I get a slight gap, but small enough that it
> is acceptable for my purposes. 4 corner clamps or a band clamp make
> glue up easier. I have made quite a few frames so I made my own jig.
> Can't remember where I found the plans but if you are interested,
> email me and I'll send you a picture.
>
> I have seen Norm cut his on a CMS leaving them a little long, then
> trim them with a guillotine-style miter cutter that uses a razor
> blade. Woodworkers Warehouse has them for about $100 US. Might be
> worth it if you are building enough frames. With the cost of framing
> now, it wouldn't take many to justify this.
>
> -Chris
Biscuit joining is a popular method for improving picture frame strength.
You could also use V nails on the back surface to hold them together a
little better. A good glue always helps :)
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"OtterEagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to
be
> solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or
ideas?
"Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Why don't more people use a pocket hole?
My theory is that not everyone likes the 'hole' they leave behind. Although
you can fill the hole with a pocket hole plug, it's just not to everyones
liking.
As a method of joinery however, pocket hole joints are very strong and quick
and easy to assemble.
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A special Frame clamp That is a clamp and a mitre joint all in one. There
are also Shears that can be obtained for a perfectly smooth joint (so they
claim). Low angle smooth planes smooth the joints. Veritas and several
other suppliers have four way clamps.
Different joining techniques. Lap joints, Lap mitered joints (if your
looking for a challenge) Spline mitres, staples, nails, Pocket joints.
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"OtterEagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to
be
> solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or
ideas?
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Providing the backs of the frames are flat, you can use pocket holes on the
back sides. I just completed building 13 picture frames. I used 1 pocket
hole screw in each corner in the back and added glue. Very strong joint.
I can send a pic to a.b.p.w if you like.
"OtterEagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to
be
> solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or
ideas?
I would much appreciate a picture if you could maybe attach it to an email and
send to [email protected].
thank you so much for your input.
Regards,
Ron
You should have an e-mail waiting.
"OtterEagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I would much appreciate a picture if you could maybe attach it to an email
and
> send to [email protected].
>
> thank you so much for your input.
>
> Regards,
> Ron
I totally agree but, like the I-hooks & cable or hanger bracket and picture
retainers, the pocket holes are on the back and do not show.
"Woody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Ramsey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Why don't more people use a pocket hole?
>
> My theory is that not everyone likes the 'hole' they leave behind.
Although
> you can fill the hole with a pocket hole plug, it's just not to everyones
> liking.
> As a method of joinery however, pocket hole joints are very strong and
quick
> and easy to assemble.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dean Bielanowski
> Editor,
> Online Tool Reviews
> http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Latest 5 Reviews:
> - Bosch 3912 (GCM12) 12" Compound Miter Saw
> - Dowelmax Doweling System
> - Ryobi CDL1802D Pro Series 18v Cordless Drill
> - Eze-Lap Diamond Sharpening Stones
> - Incra TS-III Table Saw Fence
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
[email protected] (OtterEagle) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to be
> solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or ideas?
The key is getting the miters as close to 45 degrees as possible
(assuming of course that it is a four sided frame. I can't get them
perfect using my CMS so I get a slight gap, but small enough that it
is acceptable for my purposes. 4 corner clamps or a band clamp make
glue up easier. I have made quite a few frames so I made my own jig.
Can't remember where I found the plans but if you are interested,
email me and I'll send you a picture.
I have seen Norm cut his on a CMS leaving them a little long, then
trim them with a guillotine-style miter cutter that uses a razor
blade. Woodworkers Warehouse has them for about $100 US. Might be
worth it if you are building enough frames. With the cost of framing
now, it wouldn't take many to justify this.
-Chris
I'm just completing a double sided frame used to display a 4' x 1' piece of
stained glass art. I used double FF biscuits at each miter. I set up a
simple jig to hold each frame member while I cut the FF slot (PC 557). The
assembled frame surfaces lined up within a few thou. Also used a one-off
jig to do the glue-up.
"OtterEagle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I will be building frames for custom mirrors, and would like the joints to
be
> solid, invisible and fairly easy to make. Any wonderful inventions or
ideas?