nm

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28/01/2005 9:03 PM

routing a rebate in pine

Hi all

I'm going to put a rebate in a pine door (french doors/lap koint), and am
curious to know whether routing over the centre of a knot would cause a
problem.

I'm going to seal the knots first but am worried that the force of the
router might knock it out?

Any help welcome.

Regards

Matt


This topic has 9 replies

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

29/01/2005 2:18 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:03:39 -0000, "news.tiscali.co.uk"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>I'm going to put a rebate in a pine door (french doors/lap koint), and am
>>curious to know whether routing over the centre of a knot would cause a
>>problem.
>>
>>I'm going to seal the knots first but am worried that the force of the
>>router might knock it out?
>>
>>Any help welcome.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Matt
>>
>other than money back, what's a rebate??
>

As any experienced fisherman knows, that's what you do with a hook, when
that fishie manages to remove the first worm without getting caught.


In woodworking, a somewhat archaic term with the same meaning as "rabbet",
a form of joinery that a craft master _always_ delegates to his journeyman.

Dd

"Dave"

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

28/01/2005 1:17 PM

Matt, it's kind of hard to tell with knots. You can run the router over
one of them and it will be fine. The next will blow out like it was
shot out of a cannon.

I would take very light passes over the knots so as not to allow the
router bit to get a good grip on the them.
What are you going to seal them with? Epoxy?

Dave

m

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

28/01/2005 2:59 PM

If the knot is kind of dark and has a blak ring arround it, it is a
loose knot and more likely it will come out, but if it is little dark
and has not ring arround it, it is most likely a tight knot and the
chance that it will come out is much less.
However if you pass several shalow pass on it, you will be much safer.

Even if it comes out, yoy still can glue it back.
Good luck
Maxen

news.tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm going to put a rebate in a pine door (french doors/lap koint),
and am
> curious to know whether routing over the centre of a knot would cause
a
> problem.
>
> I'm going to seal the knots first but am worried that the force of
the
> router might knock it out?
>
> Any help welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> Matt

nm

"news.tiscali.co.uk"

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

28/01/2005 9:42 PM

Thanks for your info Dave. The knot compound is Colron Kotting compound, it
doesn't give a description on the tin but judging from the smell (it smells
solvent based) it's a resin compound.

Any ideas on the router speed, full steam or slow rpm?

"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Matt, it's kind of hard to tell with knots. You can run the router over
> one of them and it will be fine. The next will blow out like it was
> shot out of a cannon.
>
> I would take very light passes over the knots so as not to allow the
> router bit to get a good grip on the them.
> What are you going to seal them with? Epoxy?
>
> Dave
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

29/01/2005 7:58 AM

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:54:11 +0000, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:


>> other than money back, what's a rebate??
>
>"A recess worked on the edge of a piece of wood over part of its
>thickness to form a bed for another part."
>From "Woodworker's Dictionary" by Vic Taylor
>
>Often misspelled "rabbet", but "rabbit" is the more commonly accepted
>spelling on the wreck.

Thanks, Luigi... it sounded like a dado, rabbet or mortise/recess, but
I just couldn't picture what the OP was trying to cut..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

JM

John McGaw

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

28/01/2005 4:29 PM

news.tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm going to put a rebate in a pine door (french doors/lap koint), and am
> curious to know whether routing over the centre of a knot would cause a
> problem.
>
> I'm going to seal the knots first but am worried that the force of the
> router might knock it out?
>
> Any help welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> Matt
>
>
Using the turner's friend, thin cyanoacrylate glue, is always a
possibility. It will hold knots and close cracks in wood (or in your
fingers for that matter; LOML, a florist, swears by it for that
purpose). Of course even with the knot secured, it still behooves you to
take it slow and to use the sharpest possible cutter. I've cut rebates
and slots and dovetails in rather knotty southern yellow and white pines
after using cyanocrylate.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com

md

mac davis

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

28/01/2005 9:05 PM

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:03:39 -0000, "news.tiscali.co.uk"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>I'm going to put a rebate in a pine door (french doors/lap koint), and am
>curious to know whether routing over the centre of a knot would cause a
>problem.
>
>I'm going to seal the knots first but am worried that the force of the
>router might knock it out?
>
>Any help welcome.
>
>Regards
>
>Matt
>
other than money back, what's a rebate??


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

md

mac davis

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

29/01/2005 7:56 AM

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:18:23 -0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>>other than money back, what's a rebate??
>>
>
>As any experienced fisherman knows, that's what you do with a hook, when
>that fishie manages to remove the first worm without getting caught.
>
ahh... I see...
you must be a maser baiter, Robert.. *g*



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

LZ

Luigi Zanasi

in reply to "news.tiscali.co.uk" on 28/01/2005 9:03 PM

28/01/2005 9:54 PM

On Saturday 29 Jan 2005 5:05 am, mac davis scribbled:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 21:03:39 -0000, "news.tiscali.co.uk"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>I'm going to put a rebate in a pine door (french doors/lap koint), and
>>am curious to know whether routing over the centre of a knot would
>>cause a problem.
>
> other than money back, what's a rebate??

"A recess worked on the edge of a piece of wood over part of its
thickness to form a bed for another part."
From "Woodworker's Dictionary" by Vic Taylor

Often misspelled "rabbet", but "rabbit" is the more commonly accepted
spelling on the wreck.

--
Luigi
Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html


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