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28/01/2005 1:06 PM

Delta BS table pin

Hello,

I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?
Thanks in advance,
Roy Fek


This topic has 15 replies

kk

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

31/01/2005 8:27 PM

i bought a used 14 inch delta band saw and the table alignment pin was
missing ...i dug up a 5/16 or 3/8 shanked bolt i dont recall the size
off hand ...i cut the threads off the bolt and pushed it in the table
alignment hole...this fix remains to this day and works good.
[email protected] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The
previous
> owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
> I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
> size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
> replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware
stores?
> Thanks in advance,
> Roy Fek

jJ

[email protected] (JMartin957)

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

31/01/2005 5:53 AM

>
>I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
>owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
>I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
>size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
>replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?
>Thanks in advance,
>Roy Fek
>

A #7 taper pin should do just fine. The head will stick out 3/8" or
thereabouts. Find a length of 1-1/2" or greater - you can always cut the small
end off.

Still not as good as the Delta part though, which has a hex head to give it a
twist to start it out.

A #8 would also work, if you found a really long one. Say 4" or more, but I
can't say for sure without a chart. The pins are sized by the large end, and
the tapers are the same for all sizes, so the small end of a long #8 is like a
#7.

John Martin

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

28/01/2005 11:15 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 13:06:37 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
>owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
>I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
>size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
>replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?
>Thanks in advance,
>Roy Fek


Order a new one. Unlikely you will find one at a hardware store. It
is tapered and properly lines up the table so it is important.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 7:23 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently bought a used Delta wi" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
> owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
> I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
> size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
> replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?
> Thanks in advance,
> Roy Fek
>
I tapped the hole and use a slightly tapered length of bolt
with a wing nut mounted on the end. Works fine for me.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Committees keep minutes and lose hours.





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"George"

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 8:10 AM


"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On a related note, the pin in my Delta is always very hard to remove - I
> end up using the claws of a hammer to pry it out. Anyone have any tricks
> to getting it out by hand or something a little more convenient that
> could be dedicated to the task?
>

Turn it with a wrench.

Mine stays fairly loose because I use WD 40 on the table a lot.

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 11:24 AM

Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
>My MSC catalog is downstairs and I'm just too lazy to head down there
>and look this up at the moment... Do tapered roll pins from the hardware
>stores come this large?

I suspect one could get one to work but the pin for my saw
is tapped on the end for a screw which allows the attachment
of a chain which allows for conveniently attaching to the
side of the table (also tapped). 'Sides, it was pretty
cheap from the manufacturer so I took the easy way out.

>On a related note, the pin in my Delta is always very hard to remove - I
>end up using the claws of a hammer to pry it out. Anyone have any tricks
>to getting it out by hand or something a little more convenient that
>could be dedicated to the task?

I tap mine out from beneath the table. I've got a wee
little ball peen that I picked up from a rummage/estate sale
that I use.

UA100

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

28/01/2005 11:22 PM

LP wrote:
>There are various theories on the purpose of the pin but I think its
>there to stop vibration from flexing the table, with the subsequent
>fatiguing of the cast iron.

Actually, band saw tables have to have a slit in them in
order for them to be able to take a blade otherwise we'd all
be having to braze our own bands every time we wanted to
change a blade. In fact, this slitting of the table is one
of the first steps in machining a table for a band saw.

The next step is to drill the side of the table at the slit
for a tapered pin.

Next up the pin is inserted and the table is machined flat
and to take what ever mechanical fasteners that are required
to attach it to the rest of the band saw.

The tapered pin is there to hold the table where it was held
when it was originally machined. It has nothing to do with
vibration or metal fatigue. In fact, many times you'll find
a table that's just not right and in you pop the pin and all
is well. That's it's job and it's only job.

>why not temporarily replace it with a nut and bolt and order the pin
>from Delta?

And they are cheap also.

UA100

Jj

John

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 12:37 PM

Putty knife blade in the slot, and gently tap it to break it free
should work as well

John

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:41:36 -0800, Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The tapered pin is there to hold the table where it was held
>> when it was originally machined. It has nothing to do with
>> vibration or metal fatigue. In fact, many times you'll find
>> a table that's just not right and in you pop the pin and all
>> is well. That's it's job and it's only job.
>
>My MSC catalog is downstairs and I'm just too lazy to head down there
>and look this up at the moment... Do tapered roll pins from the hardware
>stores come this large?
>
>On a related note, the pin in my Delta is always very hard to remove - I
>end up using the claws of a hammer to pry it out. Anyone have any tricks
>to getting it out by hand or something a little more convenient that
>could be dedicated to the task?

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

28/01/2005 9:18 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
>owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
>I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
>size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
>replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?

On my Delta 14" bandsaw (model 28-262), the pin is tapered. It's 0.343" in
diameter at the outer end, tapering smoothly down to 0.313" at the inner end.

If I were you, I'd call Delta and order the part from them. Or see if a local
dealer can get it for you.

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"CW"

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 10:20 AM

All the ones I have seen use a standard taper pin. Available at any hardware
store, just buy a few (about 15 cents each) and try them until you find one
that fits.

"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
> >owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
> >I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
> >size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
> >replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?
>
> On my Delta 14" bandsaw (model 28-262), the pin is tapered. It's 0.343" in
> diameter at the outer end, tapering smoothly down to 0.313" at the inner
end.
>
> If I were you, I'd call Delta and order the part from them. Or see if a
local
> dealer can get it for you.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
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LP

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

28/01/2005 4:40 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 13:06:37 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I recently bought a used Delta 14" bandsaw, model 28-206. The previous
>owner lost the pin that levels both sides of the table.
>I checked Delta's website and the part is only listed as "pin", no
>size. Does anyone know the size, diameter, of the pin? Can a
>replacement be made from something purchased at local hardware stores?
>Thanks in advance,
>Roy Fek

The pin is probably slightely tapered and I doubt some off the shelf
from a hardware can be found.

There are various theories on the purpose of the pin but I think its
there to stop vibration from flexing the table, with the subsequent
fatiguing of the cast iron.

why not temporarily replace it with a nut and bolt and order the pin
from Delta?

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

28/01/2005 10:41 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote:

> The tapered pin is there to hold the table where it was held
> when it was originally machined. It has nothing to do with
> vibration or metal fatigue. In fact, many times you'll find
> a table that's just not right and in you pop the pin and all
> is well. That's it's job and it's only job.

My MSC catalog is downstairs and I'm just too lazy to head down there
and look this up at the moment... Do tapered roll pins from the hardware
stores come this large?

On a related note, the pin in my Delta is always very hard to remove - I
end up using the claws of a hammer to pry it out. Anyone have any tricks
to getting it out by hand or something a little more convenient that
could be dedicated to the task?

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FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

28/01/2005 11:18 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Fly-by-Night CC <[email protected]> wrote:

> My MSC catalog is downstairs and I'm just too lazy to head down there
> and look this up at the moment... Do tapered roll pins from the hardware
> stores come this large?

Well the 40 oz Coke Slurpee I enjoyed a couple hours ago was weighing
heavy on my bladder and I just couldn't cross my legs any tighter, so on
the way back upstairs from the bathroom (ahhhhhh!) I picked up my MSC
Big Book as well as swung by the garage for some dial calipers and the
table pin from my saw (had to again hunt for the hammer).

Tapered pins do come that large but it appears that my pin (from the
wear marks) stops .001" short of a standard #6's maximum diameter
(.3410"). Meaning that the standard pin likely has too small a diameter
to use. However, if you move up to a #7, the max diameter is .409" and
with a taper of .02083" per length inch; you'd need a 4" pin to get the
minimum diameter of the taper small enough to fit into the hole.

It certainly looks as though it could be a solution, and you might want
to see if you can find a #6 to try on your table, but I'd kinda doubt
the local Ace Hardware has 4" #7s in stock - at least, I've never seen
any in mine.

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Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 11:10 PM

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:52:14 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Fly-by-Night CC <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On a related note, the pin in my Delta is always very hard to remove - I
>>end up using the claws of a hammer to pry it out. Anyone have any tricks
>>to getting it out by hand or something a little more convenient that
>>could be dedicated to the task?
>
>Mine has a hex head (dunno if yours does). I just put a wrench on it and start
>turning, and it comes out easily.

My Delta manual (and Duginski) recommends using a wrench.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] on 28/01/2005 1:06 PM

29/01/2005 2:52 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Fly-by-Night CC <[email protected]> wrote:
>On a related note, the pin in my Delta is always very hard to remove - I
>end up using the claws of a hammer to pry it out. Anyone have any tricks
>to getting it out by hand or something a little more convenient that
>could be dedicated to the task?

Mine has a hex head (dunno if yours does). I just put a wrench on it and start
turning, and it comes out easily.

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

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