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Rolling Thunder

20/10/2004 11:45 PM

Glueup Method

What would be the best means to glue up some
1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?

Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
together or other?

TIA,

Thunder


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david zaret

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 1:06 AM

i'd use biscuits for alignment, and bunches of glue.


Rolling Thunder wrote:
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?
>
> TIA,
>
> Thunder

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 5:04 AM


"Rolling Thunder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>

Joint edges.
Dry fit.
Cut biscuit slots.
Dry fit again.
Apply glue.
Assemble.
Clamp and caul.
Wait 15 mins - clean up squeeze out.
Let glue dry.
Remove clamps.
Scrape and/or Sand.
Add legs.
Finish.
Drag into kitchen.
Apply dishes and flatware.
Put spaghetti on plates...

... you get the idea.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 7:06 AM

"Rolling Thunder" wrote in message
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?

If "seeing" would be of any help, go to the page 5 of my projects journal on
the web site below and slide on down to the trestle table section where
there is a picture or two, and a description of sorts, that may shed some
light on the process for you.


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/04/04


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Phisherman

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 1:40 AM

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:45:57 GMT, Rolling Thunder <[email protected]>
wrote:

>What would be the best means to glue up some
>1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
>Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
>together or other?
>
>TIA,
>
>Thunder


The biscuits will help with the alignment and will help avoid steps at
the glue line. Important step: Dry fit all the boards together and
carefully inspect for any gaps.

hj

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 5:09 AM

Rolling Thunder <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?
>
> TIA,
>
> Thunder

I always use a glue joint on the edges. Seems to work well and you
only need one cutter. I have a large shaper which makes it easy. I
only use biscuits for shelf boards.
Jack

LL

"Lawrence L'Hote"

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 1:19 AM


"Rolling Thunder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?


I've found that you MUST prepare the edges properly. Biscuits, t & g and
dowels only help with alignment and not much strength. Use cauls or clamps
to keep the table top(field) flat while clamping. If you haven't done
anything like this before, I would suggest you get some 1 x 6 pine
boards(the cheapest) and practice your technique before you mess up some
good cherry or oak... The glued up pine panel(s) can always be used for a
shop assembly table or such.

Larry
--
Lawrence L'Hote
Columbia, MO
http://home.mchsi.com/~larrylhote

Mm

MikeG

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

20/10/2004 8:51 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?
>
> TIA,
>
> Thunder
>


yes, plus some more.

--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
[email protected]

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

22/10/2004 12:07 AM

Make sure the edges are straight and square. Then use bisquits for
alignment, since the boards are fairly long. The other methods would work,
but bisquits are much easier.

Preston

"Rolling Thunder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?
>
> TIA,
>
> Thunder

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 12:24 AM

Just glue them together.

"Rolling Thunder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?
>
> TIA,
>
> Thunder

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 5:39 PM

Rolling Thunder <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?

Add me to the "just glue them" list. Unless one of the boards has
a slight bend to it, and needs to be encourage to lie in plane with
it's mate, in which case I'd use dowels.

As everyone else has said, you'll want to make sure they're jointed
straight & square first. You'll also find it easier to glue up
pairs, and then glue the pairs together, etc, rather than try to
get several boards all clamped up at once.

John

SS

"Stephen"

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 5:21 AM

Something not otherwise mentioned which I have heard about, but not
personnally experienced, was the table top being aligned with biscuits, and
sanded / planed / smoothed and finished within a day or two after glue up.

Eventually little biscuit "dents" were showing up in the glossy finish along
the glue line. The explanation posed was that the glue swelled the biscuits
and surrounding wood which was then smoothed flat. Eventually the moisture
was lost and the wood shrank back to it's original dimension (at moisture
equilibrium) and the outline of the buscuits could be seen.

You will need
Lots of clamps
Lots of glue
Lots of alignment tools (biscuits, splines, etc)

hope this helps.


--

Stephen

"Rolling Thunder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What would be the best means to glue up some
> 1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?
>
> Use a biscuit joiner, tongue and grove, dowels, just glue 'em
> together or other?
>
> TIA,
>
> Thunder

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Andy Dingley

in reply to Rolling Thunder on 20/10/2004 11:45 PM

21/10/2004 3:16 AM

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:45:57 GMT, Rolling Thunder <[email protected]>
wrote:

>What would be the best means to glue up some
>1"X6"X60" boards to assemble a table top?

Good jointing of the edges, then something like a Plano clamp to hold
them flat and together as they dry. If you don't have such a clamp,
sandwich them between a couple of straight bars with a light clamping
force, and use long clamps to squeeze the boards together.

I'd probably biscuit them, because it doesn't hurt and I'm usually
working single-handed to get them into the clamps. With an assistant I
might not bother.

--
Smert' spamionam


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