Was surfing about this and that and came on this
site:
<http://scarboroughmarshfurniture.com/index.html
>
Lots of information about Morris chairs, also
some good links to suppliers of materials. And
he has some hardware of his own that he has made
incidental to his own chair-making business but
is willing to sell to others.
On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:05:24 AM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> Was surfing about this and that and came on this
>> site:
>>
>> <http://scarboroughmarshfurniture.com/index.html
>> >
>>
>> Lots of information about Morris chairs, also
>> some good links to suppliers of materials. And
>> he has some hardware of his own that he has made
>> incidental to his own chair-making business but
>> is willing to sell to others.
>
>I do some part-time upholstering and, surprisingly, I've worked on several Morris chairs. In that link, notice the height of the legs compared to the height of the arms above the seat frame. The seat cushion thickness needs to be appropriate, in order for the arms not to be (feel) so high. If the seat cushion is too low, one's arms feel awkward, i.e., too high, when resting on the chair's arms.
>
>Also, I've worker on a Morris chair (variation) with a caned backrest.... I re-caned the backrest. The seat depth, for the caned chair, was shorter, than for a typical chair with a cushioned (3" or 4" thick) backrest. At first glance, a caned chair frame, without the seat cushion installed, looks mis-proportioned and one thinks something is wrong with it.... until you realize why the seat depth needs to be shorter. *For the caned chair I worked on, the customer still wanted a removable thin (2") backrest cushion.
>
>Sonny
Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
what I need to know.
I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
extended.
My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
for the Morris easy chairs.
Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:05:24 AM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> Was surfing about this and that and came on this=20
> site:
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> <http://scarboroughmarshfurniture.com/index.html
> >
>=20
> Lots of information about Morris chairs, also=20
> some good links to suppliers of materials. And=20
> he has some hardware of his own that he has made=20
> incidental to his own chair-making business but=20
> is willing to sell to others.
I do some part-time upholstering and, surprisingly, I've worked on several =
Morris chairs. In that link, notice the height of the legs compared to th=
e height of the arms above the seat frame. The seat cushion thickness nee=
ds to be appropriate, in order for the arms not to be (feel) so high. If =
the seat cushion is too low, one's arms feel awkward, i.e., too high, when =
resting on the chair's arms. =20
Also, I've worker on a Morris chair (variation) with a caned backrest.... I=
re-caned the backrest. The seat depth, for the caned chair, was shorter, =
than for a typical chair with a cushioned (3" or 4" thick) backrest. At f=
irst glance, a caned chair frame, without the seat cushion installed, looks=
mis-proportioned and one thinks something is wrong with it.... until you r=
ealize why the seat depth needs to be shorter. *For the caned chair I wor=
ked on, the customer still wanted a removable thin (2") backrest cushion.
Sonny
On 05 Apr 2017 15:33:09 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Also, I find, for a personal fit, if you make a seat for yourself...
>> and I often tell folks to adjust a porch swing this way.... have the
>> top of the front of the seat be as high as the center of your kneecap.
>> This custom sizing/height adjustment usually fits fairly
>> comfortably.
>>
>> I think many restaurant/eatery seats are 19" high. For dining seat
>> cushions that are crowned, it is the top of the crown that measures
>> 19" from the floor, generally/average/there-abouts.
>>
>> Sonny
>
>I will note that if your legs start to fall asleep, your chair may be too
>low. I have a metal folding chair like that, and not long ago I put a
>pillow on the seat and it's much nicer to sit on for long periods. I use
>it for the shop computer, and sometimes that involves sitting for a few
>hours as I'm drawing something out.
To high or too low. IMO, when a chair is too high, the edge cuts
across my thighs and will cause lower-leg problems. When it's too
low I sit on my tailbone and that hurts but not the legs.
>
>It feels like the added height is the biggest difference, but I sure
>don't mind the softness of the pillow.
That's what I was thinking. The softness keeps from cutting the blood
supply to the feet. ...or keeps from pinching nerves. Either one.
On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:33:05 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Something people might find useful...
>
> <http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/library/furnituredimensions.pdf>
I suspect that chart needs a bit of correcting. On the chairs listing, the last column is labeled seat height. I think that should be backrest height, not the seat height. I suppose folks would have readily realized that, as well.
Sonny
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Also, I find, for a personal fit, if you make a seat for yourself...
> and I often tell folks to adjust a porch swing this way.... have the
> top of the front of the seat be as high as the center of your kneecap.
> This custom sizing/height adjustment usually fits fairly
> comfortably.
>
> I think many restaurant/eatery seats are 19" high. For dining seat
> cushions that are crowned, it is the top of the crown that measures
> 19" from the floor, generally/average/there-abouts.
>
> Sonny
I will note that if your legs start to fall asleep, your chair may be too
low. I have a metal folding chair like that, and not long ago I put a
pillow on the seat and it's much nicer to sit on for long periods. I use
it for the shop computer, and sometimes that involves sitting for a few
hours as I'm drawing something out.
It feels like the added height is the biggest difference, but I sure
don't mind the softness of the pillow.
Puckdropper
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http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!
Also, I find, for a personal fit, if you make a seat for yourself... and I =
often tell folks to adjust a porch swing this way.... have the top of the =
front of the seat be as high as the center of your kneecap. This custom s=
izing/height adjustment usually fits fairly comfortably.
I think many restaurant/eatery seats are 19" high. For dining seat cushion=
s that are crowned, it is the top of the crown that measures 19" from the f=
loor, generally/average/there-abouts.
Sonny
On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:57:21 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
> Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
> what I need to know.
>=20
> I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
> normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
> know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
> sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
> extended.
>=20
> My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
> look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
> floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
> looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
>=20
> I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
> for the Morris easy chairs.
>=20
> Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
> top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
>=20
> Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
> sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
Pretty much, the standard height of a dining table top is 30". Dining cha=
ir seats are 19" above the floor. Typical living room seating is about 17"=
above the floor.
I suppose for an average, and certainly for formal dining sets, the 2 end c=
hairs are typically "captains" chairs, i.e., having arms. Side chairs woul=
d not have arms.
A formal dining seat may not be upholstered, but many/most are. For more f=
ormal dining chairs, the whole chair is often upholstered. These paramete=
rs vary, as it's what the person/family wants and/or fits their d=C3=A9cor =
and function.
Hope this helps.
Sonny
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:57:21 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
>> Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
>> what I need to know.
>>
>> I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
>> normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
>> know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
>> sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
>> extended.
>>
>> My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
>> look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
>> floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
>> looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
>>
>> I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
>> for the Morris easy chairs.
>>
>> Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
>> top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
>> sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
>
>Pretty much, the standard height of a dining table top is 30". Dining chair seats are 19" above the floor. Typical living room seating is about 17" above the floor.
>
>I suppose for an average, and certainly for formal dining sets, the 2 end chairs are typically "captains" chairs, i.e., having arms. Side chairs would not have arms.
>
>A formal dining seat may not be upholstered, but many/most are. For more formal dining chairs, the whole chair is often upholstered. These parameters vary, as it's what the person/family wants and/or fits their décor and function.
>
>Hope this helps.
Something people might find useful...
<http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/library/furnituredimensions.pdf>
On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:30:38 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 13:32:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:57:21 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
>>>> Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
>>>> what I need to know.
>>>>
>>>> I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
>>>> normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
>>>> know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
>>>> sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
>>>> extended.
>>>>
>>>> My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
>>>> look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
>>>> floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
>>>> looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
>>>>
>>>> I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
>>>> for the Morris easy chairs.
>>>>
>>>> Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
>>>> top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
>>>> sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
>>>
>>>Pretty much, the standard height of a dining table top is 30". Dining chair seats are 19" above the floor. Typical living room seating is about 17" above the floor.
>>>
>>>I suppose for an average, and certainly for formal dining sets, the 2 end chairs are typically "captains" chairs, i.e., having arms. Side chairs would not have arms.
>>>
>>>A formal dining seat may not be upholstered, but many/most are. For more formal dining chairs, the whole chair is often upholstered. These parameters vary, as it's what the person/family wants and/or fits their décor and function.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Something people might find useful...
>>
>><http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/library/furnituredimensions.pdf>
>
>Thanks, saved it, but I think I am going to notate it, since the
>measurements do not allow for cushions, versus non-cushion.
>
>This table is a full 30" height, non negotiable. And as to Sonny's
>suggestion I think he is spot on as my old maple chairs even with
>cushions are just too low.
>
>And of course the front of the seat is higher than the back of the
>seat which the chart does not show. :)
Sure, I don't think anyone will think there is a law of nature that
dictates these dimensions but they're a good start.
On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:57:21 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
>> Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
>> what I need to know.
>>
>> I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
>> normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
>> know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
>> sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
>> extended.
>>
>> My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
>> look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
>> floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
>> looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
>>
>> I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
>> for the Morris easy chairs.
>>
>> Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
>> top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
>> sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
>
>Pretty much, the standard height of a dining table top is 30". Dining chair seats are 19" above the floor. Typical living room seating is about 17" above the floor.
>
Our maple kitchen/dining room table was lower and the seats as
mentioned above. The 19" that you mentioned seems far more reasonable
for a 30" table as you suggested, but I wasn't sure. In looking for
dining room chairs I have only seen the lower ones available so far,
even in looking online via craigslist. Seems like stuff for today is
designed for short people.
>I suppose for an average, and certainly for formal dining sets, the 2 end chairs are typically "captains" chairs, i.e., having arms. Side chairs would not have arms.
>
>A formal dining seat may not be upholstered, but many/most are. For more formal dining chairs, the whole chair is often upholstered. These parameters vary, as it's what the person/family wants and/or fits their décor and function.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Sonny
It does help and is appreciated. I hope to find chairs similar to what
I remembered as a kid, Captains chairs and all. Thank you.
On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 22:11:16 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:30:38 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 13:32:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:57:21 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
>>>>> Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
>>>>> what I need to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
>>>>> normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
>>>>> know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
>>>>> sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
>>>>> extended.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
>>>>> look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
>>>>> floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
>>>>> looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
>>>>> for the Morris easy chairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
>>>>> top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
>>>>> sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
>>>>
>>>>Pretty much, the standard height of a dining table top is 30". Dining chair seats are 19" above the floor. Typical living room seating is about 17" above the floor.
>>>>
>>>>I suppose for an average, and certainly for formal dining sets, the 2 end chairs are typically "captains" chairs, i.e., having arms. Side chairs would not have arms.
>>>>
>>>>A formal dining seat may not be upholstered, but many/most are. For more formal dining chairs, the whole chair is often upholstered. These parameters vary, as it's what the person/family wants and/or fits their décor and function.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>Something people might find useful...
>>>
>>><http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/library/furnituredimensions.pdf>
>>
>>Thanks, saved it, but I think I am going to notate it, since the
>>measurements do not allow for cushions, versus non-cushion.
>>
>>This table is a full 30" height, non negotiable. And as to Sonny's
>>suggestion I think he is spot on as my old maple chairs even with
>>cushions are just too low.
>>
>>And of course the front of the seat is higher than the back of the
>>seat which the chart does not show. :)
>
>Sure, I don't think anyone will think there is a law of nature that
>dictates these dimensions but they're a good start.
True enough, like I said, I saved it. :)
On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 13:32:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Apr 2017 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:57:21 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
>>> Sonny, this is slightly off topic, but it sounds like you would know
>>> what I need to know.
>>>
>>> I have an antique dining table from my Grandmother. It is higher than
>>> normal Dining tables, but I do not know what happened to the chairs. I
>>> know there were two chairs with arms, and at least six chairs for the
>>> sides. It has a drop down ladder to support the table when fully
>>> extended.
>>>
>>> My question is this, in looking for chairs I am pretty sure I need to
>>> look for upholstered chairs, but what height for the seat to the
>>> floor? I currently have 17 1/2 inch and everyone sitting at the table
>>> looks like little kids. IYKWIM.
>>>
>>> I assume the difference in height is the cushions, as you made mention
>>> for the Morris easy chairs.
>>>
>>> Also a chair with a 24" arm height will fit under the table The table
>>> top is 30" and under it is 29" from the floor.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking for chairs. I am not
>>> sure if the table is mahogany or a dark Cherry.
>>
>>Pretty much, the standard height of a dining table top is 30". Dining chair seats are 19" above the floor. Typical living room seating is about 17" above the floor.
>>
>>I suppose for an average, and certainly for formal dining sets, the 2 end chairs are typically "captains" chairs, i.e., having arms. Side chairs would not have arms.
>>
>>A formal dining seat may not be upholstered, but many/most are. For more formal dining chairs, the whole chair is often upholstered. These parameters vary, as it's what the person/family wants and/or fits their décor and function.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>
>Something people might find useful...
>
><http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/library/furnituredimensions.pdf>
Thanks, saved it, but I think I am going to notate it, since the
measurements do not allow for cushions, versus non-cushion.
This table is a full 30" height, non negotiable. And as to Sonny's
suggestion I think he is spot on as my old maple chairs even with
cushions are just too low.
And of course the front of the seat is higher than the back of the
seat which the chart does not show. :)