"Lobby Dosser" wrote:
> Related question: does masking tape along the line of cut reduce the
> odds of chipping?
-----------------------------------------------
SFWIW, It's been awhile since I did one of these, but with today's
equipment, you should be OK.
I'd still tape the laminate side, cut 1/4" proud with a Fein, then
clean up to the line with a router and a straight edge.
If you are fitting to a wall, remember not all walls are straight
and/or square.
Have fun.
Lew
On Jul 22, 3:31=A0pm, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
It's not clear from your post whether the backsplash and top are one
piece or you bought a loose backsplash. Here's some good info:
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=3D609462
There are a lot of places you could go wrong, and you'd then be
fussing with chips and belt sanders. Cutting to length when the cut
end is up against a wall, and the cut will be covered by the
backsplash is easier. Cutting meeting 45s to fit in a corner is a lot
tougher, particularly if the splash/top is one piece. The easiest
thing to do if you need meeting 45s is to bring the top to a
countertop shop that has a beam/travel saw.
R
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:35 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:20:17 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:57:40 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>> Box cutter and snap.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
>>>>>about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
>>>>>score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
>>>>>some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
>>>>>real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
>>>>
>>>> I think Lobby was funnin' the OP. One can't score and snap anything in
>>>> the shape of an ell.
>>>
>>>
>>>An ell?
>>
>> What do you call this shape? Are we on the same page here, Lob?
>> http://fwd4.me/Yue
>>
>> Laminate by itself, without the MDF backing, I'd score the front/top
>> and snap.
>>
>He's talking about laminate by itself.
Sheet laminate is not called "preformed countertops" as the subject is
titled, Lobby. Somebody screwed up. ;)
>>>But yes, score the back and snap
>>
>> Score the _BACK_? And snap to a raggedy laminate edge on the front
>> side? Please put your hands up n' step away from that bottle, sir!
>
>Just tested it on some scrap. You are correct!
>
>SCORE THE FRONT!
Thank you. <giggle>
>In practice you're going to cut over size and trim after you glue it down
>anyway.
True, hopefully with a router, but a file does do an OK job manually.
Butcha gotta be C A R E F U L !
--
It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
poverty and wealth have both failed.
-- Kin Hubbard
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:45:57 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>
>"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Here you go: http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2010 3:31 PM, Tim wrote:
>>> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would
>>> like
>>> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too
>>> long
>>> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>
>I just put masking tape on both sides and cut from the back and it
>worked out pretty good. Now, do you know how to cut laminate sheets?
>That's my next episode.
I masked the laminate, flipped the counter over on a carpeted waste
top, and used a new skilsaw blade to cut it from the back. I learned a
new trick since then: screwing on guides before doing the cut so I
could make that transition twixt the counter & splash perfectly
smoothly. On my last cut, I did it in two runs, splash first, then
counter. It needed only a tiny bit of filing to smooth out and the
iron-on edge fit like a champ.
I think I used the 24T blade vs. the 18 for a smoother edge.
--
It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
poverty and wealth have both failed.
-- Kin Hubbard
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here you go: http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
>
>
> On 7/22/2010 3:31 PM, Tim wrote:
>> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would
>> like
>> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too
>> long
>> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
I just put masking tape on both sides and cut from the back and it
worked out pretty good. Now, do you know how to cut laminate sheets?
That's my next episode.
--
Careful how you respond. I have people!
JC
"Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:19f27885-d2b4-4bd8-9450-0ce2eb1abe11@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
I cut them upside down, use a straightedge, skill saw with a fine tooth
blade, with the blade extended all the way so it cuts most of the way "up"
the back splash. Doing it this way I need to set up twice to clamp the
straight edge for the final cut on the back splash. I have done several
counter tops this way and have had good results, no shipping of the Formica.
I have never cut a 45 degree this way, just trimming to length.
Greg
One more way is to cut proud by 1/4 then use a belt sander to fit in.
I take a washer and card board to make a template.
I then run the washer with a pencil in the center and that is my sanding
line. I make sure my measurement is correct before sanding.
On 7/23/2010 12:10 AM, Rich wrote:
> Greg O wrote:
>
>>
>> "Tim"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:19f27885-d2b4-4bd8-9450-0ce2eb1abe11@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
>>> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
>>> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>> I cut them upside down, use a straightedge, skill saw with a fine tooth
>> blade, with the blade extended all the way so it cuts most of the way "up"
>> the back splash. Doing it this way I need to set up twice to clamp the
>> straight edge for the final cut on the back splash. I have done several
>> counter tops this way and have had good results, no shipping of the
>> Formica. I have never cut a 45 degree this way, just trimming to length.
>> Greg
>
> I do the same just use a good carbide blade in the circular saw, have even
> used a good blade in a jig saw with a guide. The laminate is pretty tough
> these days. Are you putting end caps on these counters? If so cut them down
> proud of where you want them and then get yourself a good rasp with at least
> 4 different cutting surface and have fun filing them to size after you have
> installed them of course... I just installed one of those counters from HD
> they look real good...
Here you go: http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
On 7/22/2010 3:31 PM, Tim wrote:
> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:57:40 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>
>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Box cutter and snap.
>
>I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
>about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
>score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
>some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
>real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
I think Lobby was funnin' the OP. One can't score and snap anything in
the shape of an ell.
--
It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
poverty and wealth have both failed.
-- Kin Hubbard
Greg O wrote:
>
> "Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:19f27885-d2b4-4bd8-9450-0ce2eb1abe11@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
>> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
>> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>
> I cut them upside down, use a straightedge, skill saw with a fine tooth
> blade, with the blade extended all the way so it cuts most of the way "up"
> the back splash. Doing it this way I need to set up twice to clamp the
> straight edge for the final cut on the back splash. I have done several
> counter tops this way and have had good results, no shipping of the
> Formica. I have never cut a 45 degree this way, just trimming to length.
> Greg
I do the same just use a good carbide blade in the circular saw, have even
used a good blade in a jig saw with a guide. The laminate is pretty tough
these days. Are you putting end caps on these counters? If so cut them down
proud of where you want them and then get yourself a good rasp with at least
4 different cutting surface and have fun filing them to size after you have
installed them of course... I just installed one of those counters from HD
they look real good...
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jul 22, 3:31 pm, Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
It's not clear from your post whether the backsplash and top are one
piece or you bought a loose backsplash. Here's some good info:
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=609462
There are a lot of places you could go wrong, and you'd then be
fussing with chips and belt sanders. Cutting to length when the cut
end is up against a wall, and the cut will be covered by the
backsplash is easier. Cutting meeting 45s to fit in a corner is a lot
tougher, particularly if the splash/top is one piece. The easiest
thing to do if you need meeting 45s is to bring the top to a
countertop shop that has a beam/travel saw.
R
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Related question: does masking tape along the line of cut reduce the odds of
chipping?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
>
>> Related question: does masking tape along the line of cut reduce the odds
>> of chipping?
> -----------------------------------------------
> SFWIW, It's been awhile since I did one of these, but with today's
> equipment, you should be OK.
>
> I'd still tape the laminate side, cut 1/4" proud with a Fein, then clean
> up to the line with a router and a straight edge.
>
> If you are fitting to a wall, remember not all walls are straight and/or
> square.
>
> Have fun.
>
In this house, no walls are straight or square. :(
Greg O <[email protected]> wrote:
: "Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: news:19f27885-d2b4-4bd8-9450-0ce2eb1abe11@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
:>I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
:> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
:> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
:>
:> Thanks,
:>
:> Tim
: I cut them upside down, use a straightedge, skill saw with a fine tooth
: blade, with the blade extended all the way so it cuts most of the way "up"
: the back splash. Doing it this way I need to set up twice to clamp the
: straight edge for the final cut on the back splash. I have done several
: counter tops this way and have had good results, no shipping of the Formica.
: I have never cut a 45 degree this way, just trimming to length.
: Greg
I did the exact same thing. Cutting upward so the teeth of the blade press the laminate into
the substrate, instead of pulling it off, is key.
I used one of those straightedge clamps, and it worked great.
-- Andy Barss
"The Post Quartermaster" <[email protected]>
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Here you go: http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/2010 3:31 PM, Tim wrote:
>>> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would like
>>> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too long
>>> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the top.
>
> I just put masking tape on both sides and cut from the back and it worked
> out pretty good. Now, do you know how to cut laminate sheets? That's my
> next episode.
> --
> Careful how you respond. I have people!
>
> JC
Box cutter and snap.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:57:40 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>
>>
>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>
>>> Box cutter and snap.
>>
>>I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
>>about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
>>score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
>>some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
>>real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
>
> I think Lobby was funnin' the OP. One can't score and snap anything in
> the shape of an ell.
An ell? But yes, score the back and snap
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:20:17 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:57:40 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>> Box cutter and snap.
>>>>
>>>>I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
>>>>about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
>>>>score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
>>>>some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
>>>>real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
>>>
>>> I think Lobby was funnin' the OP. One can't score and snap anything in
>>> the shape of an ell.
>>
>>
>>An ell?
>
> What do you call this shape? Are we on the same page here, Lob?
> http://fwd4.me/Yue
>
> Laminate by itself, without the MDF backing, I'd score the front/top
> and snap.
>
He's talking about laminate by itself.
>
>>But yes, score the back and snap
>
> Score the _BACK_? And snap to a raggedy laminate edge on the front
> side? Please put your hands up n' step away from that bottle, sir!
Just tested it on some scrap. You are correct!
SCORE THE FRONT!
In practice you're going to cut over size and trim after you glue it down
anyway.
>
> --
> It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
> poverty and wealth have both failed.
> -- Kin Hubbard
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:39:35 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:20:17 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>>>
>>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:57:40 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Box cutter and snap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
>>>>>>about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
>>>>>>score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
>>>>>>some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
>>>>>>real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Lobby was funnin' the OP. One can't score and snap anything in
>>>>> the shape of an ell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>An ell?
>>>
>>> What do you call this shape? Are we on the same page here, Lob?
>>> http://fwd4.me/Yue
>>>
>>> Laminate by itself, without the MDF backing, I'd score the front/top
>>> and snap.
>>>
>>He's talking about laminate by itself.
>
> Sheet laminate is not called "preformed countertops" as the subject is
> titled, Lobby. Somebody screwed up. ;)
He got the preformed stuff done and moved on.
>
>
>>>>But yes, score the back and snap
>>>
>>> Score the _BACK_? And snap to a raggedy laminate edge on the front
>>> side? Please put your hands up n' step away from that bottle, sir!
>>
>>Just tested it on some scrap. You are correct!
>>
>>SCORE THE FRONT!
>
> Thank you. <giggle>
>
>
>>In practice you're going to cut over size and trim after you glue it down
>>anyway.
>
> True, hopefully with a router, but a file does do an OK job manually.
> Butcha gotta be C A R E F U L !
>
> --
> It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
> poverty and wealth have both failed.
> -- Kin Hubbard
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "The Post Quartermaster"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Here you go:
>>> http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2010 3:31 PM, Tim wrote:
>>>> I purchased some preformed countertops from Home Depot and would
>>>> like
>>>> to know the best way to cut them without chipping, They are too
>>>> long
>>>> to put on the table saw. I need to cut the backsplash and the
>>>> top.
>>
>> I just put masking tape on both sides and cut from the back and it
>> worked out pretty good. Now, do you know how to cut laminate
>> sheets? That's my next episode.
>> --
>> Careful how you respond. I have people!
>>
>> JC
>
> Box cutter and snap.
I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
--
Careful how you respond. I have people!
JC
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:20:17 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:57:40 -0500, "The Post Quartermaster"
>> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>> Box cutter and snap.
>>>
>>>I've heard that a skilsaw was the proper method but I'm a bit uneasy
>>>about that. I don't recall the box cutter method. I'm assuming you
>>>score from the backside??? I'm going to make several trial runs on
>>>some scrap. Usually when I do that, the tests are perfect and then the
>>>real deal crumbles into a disaster. <G>
>>
>> I think Lobby was funnin' the OP. One can't score and snap anything in
>> the shape of an ell.
>
>
>An ell?
What do you call this shape? Are we on the same page here, Lob?
http://fwd4.me/Yue
Laminate by itself, without the MDF backing, I'd score the front/top
and snap.
>But yes, score the back and snap
Score the _BACK_? And snap to a raggedy laminate edge on the front
side? Please put your hands up n' step away from that bottle, sir!
--
It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness;
poverty and wealth have both failed.
-- Kin Hubbard