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G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
> Our bed is high and my wife is short, so she wanted me to make her a
> step stool with a hand-hold. I made it out of #1 pine with a glued up
> panel top. Stained it with golden oak then light walnut to match the
> bedroom furniture.
> Finished with two coats gloss polyurinestain, light sanding then satin
> poly.
> Applied clear non-slip strips to the top.
> Picture on ABPW before finishing.
> It works as designed, but is not fine furniture.

Neat design. I have the same situation, bed size/wife size. :-). She
manages but has warned me that one day she may need a step stool.
Can you share he dimensions? I would assume that the hand-hold doubles as
a way to move the step without bending over all they way down to pick it
up.

On 11/14/2015 8:34 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Our bed is high and my wife is short, so she wanted me to make her a
>>> step stool with a hand-hold. I made it out of #1 pine with a glued up
>>> panel top. Stained it with golden oak then light walnut to match the
>>> bedroom furniture.
>>> Finished with two coats gloss polyurinestain, light sanding then satin
>>> poly.
>>> Applied clear non-slip strips to the top.
>>> Picture on ABPW before finishing.
>>> It works as designed, but is not fine furniture.
>>
>> Neat design. I have the same situation, bed size/wife size. :-). She
>> manages but has warned me that one day she may need a step stool.
>> Can you share he dimensions? I would assume that the hand-hold
>> doubles as
>> a way to move the step without bending over all they way down to pick it
>> up.
>>
> She had been using a plastic stool 9" high, but it was unstable. I made
> this one the same height, 12" wide and 26 inches long. We checked the
> hand-hold height and she liked 28 inches from the floor so that is what
> I made. I made it out of stock 1 x 3's interlacing them at the top
> corners and one vertical stopped at the step top and two to the floor.
> All edges 1/4 round overs.
>
> One difficulty. My router table had a 1/4 bit and collet and I changed
> to a 1/2 collet and bit (on a DeWalt router). The collet did not catch
> in the nut so when I loosened the nut the collet was stuck. Any ideas
> how to get the bit and collet out? I tried taking washers with a 1/2
> hole, cutting them with a bolt cutter to make a "C" shape and sliding
> them between the nut and base of the bit and loosening the nut against
> them, but no joy, even after spraying with "break-loose". The nut travel
> is not enough to break the bit loose.

How about a hardwood "wrench" mortised to hold the head of the router
bit securely and then a sharp rap with a mallet while the router lock is
in place?

Take the washer idea one step further and fashioning something thicker
to reduce the amount of travel needed by the nut to break it free?

On 11/14/2015 10:15 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>> On 11/14/2015 8:34 AM, G. Ross wrote:

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>>
>> How about a hardwood "wrench" mortised to hold the head of the router
>> bit securely and then a sharp rap with a mallet while the router lock is
>> in place?
>>
>> Take the washer idea one step further and fashioning something thicker
>> to reduce the amount of travel needed by the nut to break it free?
>>
>>
>>
> Tried both. Made several washers and stacked them until no more would go.


Reading your follow-up posts...

Seems like you're ready to throw in the towel so go for broke. Write
off the router bit right now. Put the whole shebang, as is, in the
freezer and wait until tomorrow at which time try locking the router and
whacking a wrench that's holding the bit.

No luck? Get out the Bernzomatic torch, apply it to the bit and try,
try again.

You mentioned lube earlier. There was a thread here not long ago about,
Aero Kroil, a super penetrating lube used to break free just about
anything. To read the reviews, I suppose one could drive a tractor
through a 5" diameter pipe using this stuff<g>

Maybe it's worth a shot. You have another router to use in the meantime
so...

http://www.kanolabs.com

On 11/14/2015 8:34 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Our bed is high and my wife is short, so she wanted me to make her a
>>> step stool with a hand-hold. I made it out of #1 pine with a glued up
>>> panel top. Stained it with golden oak then light walnut to match the
>>> bedroom furniture.
>>> Finished with two coats gloss polyurinestain, light sanding then satin
>>> poly.
>>> Applied clear non-slip strips to the top.
>>> Picture on ABPW before finishing.
>>> It works as designed, but is not fine furniture.
>>
>> Neat design. I have the same situation, bed size/wife size. :-). She
>> manages but has warned me that one day she may need a step stool.
>> Can you share he dimensions? I would assume that the hand-hold
>> doubles as
>> a way to move the step without bending over all they way down to pick it
>> up.
>>
> She had been using a plastic stool 9" high, but it was unstable. I made
> this one the same height, 12" wide and 26 inches long. We checked the
> hand-hold height and she liked 28 inches from the floor so that is what
> I made. I made it out of stock 1 x 3's interlacing them at the top
> corners and one vertical stopped at the step top and two to the floor.
> All edges 1/4 round overs.
>
> One difficulty. My router table had a 1/4 bit and collet and I changed
> to a 1/2 collet and bit (on a DeWalt router). The collet did not catch
> in the nut so when I loosened the nut the collet was stuck. Any ideas
> how to get the bit and collet out? I tried taking washers with a 1/2
> hole, cutting them with a bolt cutter to make a "C" shape and sliding
> them between the nut and base of the bit and loosening the nut against
> them, but no joy, even after spraying with "break-loose". The nut travel
> is not enough to break the bit loose.
>


If you can't get the bit out you are basically stuck. I would tap the
bit shank with a metal wrench.

Leon wrote:
> G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Our bed is high and my wife is short, so she wanted me to make her a
>> step stool with a hand-hold. I made it out of #1 pine with a glued up
>> panel top. Stained it with golden oak then light walnut to match the
>> bedroom furniture.
>> Finished with two coats gloss polyurinestain, light sanding then satin
>> poly.
>> Applied clear non-slip strips to the top.
>> Picture on ABPW before finishing.
>> It works as designed, but is not fine furniture.
>
> Neat design. I have the same situation, bed size/wife size. :-). She
> manages but has warned me that one day she may need a step stool.
> Can you share he dimensions? I would assume that the hand-hold doubles as
> a way to move the step without bending over all they way down to pick it
> up.
>
She had been using a plastic stool 9" high, but it was unstable. I
made this one the same height, 12" wide and 26 inches long. We
checked the hand-hold height and she liked 28 inches from the floor so
that is what I made. I made it out of stock 1 x 3's interlacing them
at the top corners and one vertical stopped at the step top and two to
the floor. All edges 1/4 round overs.

One difficulty. My router table had a 1/4 bit and collet and I
changed to a 1/2 collet and bit (on a DeWalt router). The collet did
not catch in the nut so when I loosened the nut the collet was stuck.
Any ideas how to get the bit and collet out? I tried taking washers
with a 1/2 hole, cutting them with a bolt cutter to make a "C" shape
and sliding them between the nut and base of the bit and loosening the
nut against them, but no joy, even after spraying with "break-loose".
The nut travel is not enough to break the bit loose.

--
GW Ross

Ignorance is temporary; Stupidity
lasts forever!

G. Ross wrote:

> One difficulty. My router table had a 1/4 bit and collet and I
> changed to a 1/2 collet and bit (on a DeWalt router). The collet did
> not catch in the nut so when I loosened the nut the collet was stuck.
> Any ideas how to get the bit and collet out? I tried taking washers
> with a 1/2 hole, cutting them with a bolt cutter to make a "C" shape
> and sliding them between the nut and base of the bit and loosening the
> nut against them, but no joy, even after spraying with "break-loose".
> The nut travel is not enough to break the bit loose.

Try loosening the nut slightly, then tap it with a wrench. You don't have
to tap hard but you wll probably have to tap a lot.

Leon wrote:
> On 11/14/2015 8:34 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Our bed is high and my wife is short, so she wanted me to make her a
>>>> step stool with a hand-hold. I made it out of #1 pine with a glued up
>>>> panel top. Stained it with golden oak then light walnut to match the
>>>> bedroom furniture.
>>>> Finished with two coats gloss polyurinestain, light sanding then satin
>>>> poly.
>>>> Applied clear non-slip strips to the top.
>>>> Picture on ABPW before finishing.
>>>> It works as designed, but is not fine furniture.
>>>
>>> Neat design. I have the same situation, bed size/wife size. :-). She
>>> manages but has warned me that one day she may need a step stool.
>>> Can you share he dimensions? I would assume that the hand-hold
>>> doubles as
>>> a way to move the step without bending over all they way down to pick it
>>> up.
>>>
>> She had been using a plastic stool 9" high, but it was unstable. I made
>> this one the same height, 12" wide and 26 inches long. We checked the
>> hand-hold height and she liked 28 inches from the floor so that is what
>> I made. I made it out of stock 1 x 3's interlacing them at the top
>> corners and one vertical stopped at the step top and two to the floor.
>> All edges 1/4 round overs.
>>
>> One difficulty. My router table had a 1/4 bit and collet and I changed
>> to a 1/2 collet and bit (on a DeWalt router). The collet did not catch
>> in the nut so when I loosened the nut the collet was stuck. Any ideas
>> how to get the bit and collet out? I tried taking washers with a 1/2
>> hole, cutting them with a bolt cutter to make a "C" shape and sliding
>> them between the nut and base of the bit and loosening the nut against
>> them, but no joy, even after spraying with "break-loose". The nut travel
>> is not enough to break the bit loose.
>>
>
>
> If you can't get the bit out you are basically stuck. I would tap the
> bit shank with a metal wrench.
>
I am basically stuck. Thought about a slide hammer but haven't come
up with a way to attach one to the bit. I have another router but hate
to give up on this.

--
GW Ross

Ignorance is temporary; Stupidity
lasts forever!

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 11/14/2015 8:34 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> G. Ross <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Our bed is high and my wife is short, so she wanted me to make her a
>>>> step stool with a hand-hold. I made it out of #1 pine with a glued up
>>>> panel top. Stained it with golden oak then light walnut to match the
>>>> bedroom furniture.
>>>> Finished with two coats gloss polyurinestain, light sanding then satin
>>>> poly.
>>>> Applied clear non-slip strips to the top.
>>>> Picture on ABPW before finishing.
>>>> It works as designed, but is not fine furniture.
>>>
>>> Neat design. I have the same situation, bed size/wife size. :-). She
>>> manages but has warned me that one day she may need a step stool.
>>> Can you share he dimensions? I would assume that the hand-hold
>>> doubles as
>>> a way to move the step without bending over all they way down to pick it
>>> up.
>>>
>> She had been using a plastic stool 9" high, but it was unstable. I made
>> this one the same height, 12" wide and 26 inches long. We checked the
>> hand-hold height and she liked 28 inches from the floor so that is what
>> I made. I made it out of stock 1 x 3's interlacing them at the top
>> corners and one vertical stopped at the step top and two to the floor.
>> All edges 1/4 round overs.
>>
>> One difficulty. My router table had a 1/4 bit and collet and I changed
>> to a 1/2 collet and bit (on a DeWalt router). The collet did not catch
>> in the nut so when I loosened the nut the collet was stuck. Any ideas
>> how to get the bit and collet out? I tried taking washers with a 1/2
>> hole, cutting them with a bolt cutter to make a "C" shape and sliding
>> them between the nut and base of the bit and loosening the nut against
>> them, but no joy, even after spraying with "break-loose". The nut travel
>> is not enough to break the bit loose.
>
> How about a hardwood "wrench" mortised to hold the head of the router
> bit securely and then a sharp rap with a mallet while the router lock is
> in place?
>
> Take the washer idea one step further and fashioning something thicker
> to reduce the amount of travel needed by the nut to break it free?
>
>
>
Tried both. Made several washers and stacked them until no more would
go.

--
GW Ross

Ignorance is temporary; Stupidity
lasts forever!