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Electric Comet

13/11/2015 8:39 PM

your project

post info on your last project
not many of you post your projects so this is your chance

i made a minimalist bookshelf
a sort of mission style but more minimal
all from previously used lumber

also making some tv trays
these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier

which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
garbage which is not a surprise

so it was easy to do better











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Sonny

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 6:50 AM

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 6:56:17 AM UTC-6, keith_
> >
> I made my first table. While I had no problems cutting and gluing the=20
> table I had a lot of problems with the finish. With extensive research=20
> and experimentation it is complete and is sitting beside me as I type.
>=20
> While I know it it not what is consider good by the subscribers to this=
=20
> newsgroup, I am satisfied with my First table.

My first table was in 9th grade shop class - 2'X 2' top, 4 legs with lower =
stretchers, no skirt-type leg-top attachment.... the legs attached directly=
to the top with "dowels". I had no idea of what a dowel rod was. I carve=
d "dowels" (nubs) on the leg tops, to insert into the table holes. The te=
acher made it a point of showing the class what I did (carved dowels), then=
he explained, to me, what a dowel is for, etc.

Lately, my projects have been put on hold. Been away from home, a lot, tak=
ing care of Mom, with dementia. To engage her, we built a new bird house. =
Hope to bring it back to her, today, for priming and painting. Seems, t=
hese little projects (flowers, pot plants, also) helps keep her mind off ot=
her "issues".... calms her anxieties, etc.

I hope to be back in the shop tomorrow and do a little more work on the alt=
ernative camp dining table.... E.R. cedar, this time 'round.

Sonny

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 2:46 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n26dqi$70k$1
@dont-email.me:

> post info on your last project
> not many of you post your projects so this is your chance
>
> i made a minimalist bookshelf
> a sort of mission style but more minimal
> all from previously used lumber
>
> also making some tv trays
> these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier
>
> which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
> garbage which is not a surprise
>
> so it was easy to do better
>
>

I decided to make a set of cauls. Wouldn't you know it, though? My
tools are all set up to cut straight and all the hand planes were down
with a case of Oak rust! I've got them sitting in a special Nitrogen
solution to hopefully reverse it.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

16/11/2015 3:34 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n2b7h3$kbj$3
@dont-email.me:

> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 15:55:42 -0500
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No, from the tannins. Which is why you don't use iron/steel (non
>> stainless) fasteners in oak.
>
> i use resins and tannins to mean the same but i did not know this about
> oak and fasteners
>
> i made a small table using oak not too long ago and use stainless just
> for the look and i guess i count myself lucky for doing that
>
> i bought high quality stainless nuts and bolts
>

Search the archives here. There's plenty of good information about oak
rust.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

16/11/2015 11:05 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n2dkct$trh$1
@dont-email.me:

> On 16 Nov 2015 15:34:12 GMT
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> oak rust.
>
> interesting
> oak rust is a fungus
>
> tannins are a constituent of resins
> tannins in the pulp and paper industry are considered corrosion
> inhibitors
>
> and a study showed that pH was a corrosive factor and that tannins
> are a corrosion inhibitor
>
>

You oughta see what it does around WD40 and vehicle brakes.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 7:24 AM

Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/14/2015 6:54 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>> Electric Comet wrote:
>>> post info on your last project
>>> not many of you post your projects so this is your chance
>>>
>>> i made a minimalist bookshelf
>>> a sort of mission style but more minimal
>>> all from previously used lumber
>>>
>>> also making some tv trays
>>> these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier
>>>
>>> which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
>>> garbage which is not a surprise
>>>
>>> so it was easy to do better
>>>
>>
>> I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not offended
>> by my use of punctuation.
>>
>>
> I made my first table. While I had no problems cutting and gluing the
> table I had a lot of problems with the finish. With extensive research
> and experimentation it is complete and is sitting beside me as I type.
>
> While I know it it not what is consider good by the subscribers to this
> newsgroup, I am satisfied with my First table.
>

Your first? It may very well be better than any ones first. If you are
happy with your results be proud, none of us are perfect.

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 6:54 AM

Electric Comet wrote:
> post info on your last project
> not many of you post your projects so this is your chance
>
> i made a minimalist bookshelf
> a sort of mission style but more minimal
> all from previously used lumber
>
> also making some tv trays
> these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier
>
> which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
> garbage which is not a surprise
>
> so it was easy to do better
>

I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not offended
by my use of punctuation.


--
GW Ross






JM

John McCoy

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

16/11/2015 4:06 PM

Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote in news:n2b7h3$kbj$3
@dont-email.me:

> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 15:55:42 -0500
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No, from the tannins. Which is why you don't use iron/steel (non
>> stainless) fasteners in oak.
>
> i use resins and tannins to mean the same but i did not know this about
> oak and fasteners

This is a problem you seem to have, using words to mean
things they don't mean. To the rest of us, you end up
making as much sense as Lewis Carroll's Humpty Dumpty.

Apropos of the current issue, tannins are water soluble,
while resins are not. That is why they are a problem
with oak, because water content in the wood (or humidity
in the air) can dissolve them and allow them to react
with iron.

John

Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 12:47 PM

On 11/14/2015 10:57 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 06:54:38 -0500
> "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not
>> offended by my use of punctuation.
>
> the useful projects are always the best
>
> just curious why the glossy then the satin
>
> i know very little about finishing
>
>

Satin uses a talc additive to give a "satin" appearance and starts off
as a gloss. Gloss simply does not talc to muddy up the finish.

Typically you use gloss to get a good clear finish and then as a last
coat add the satin.

KN

Keith Nuttle

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 7:56 AM

On 11/14/2015 6:54 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>> post info on your last project
>> not many of you post your projects so this is your chance
>>
>> i made a minimalist bookshelf
>> a sort of mission style but more minimal
>> all from previously used lumber
>>
>> also making some tv trays
>> these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier
>>
>> which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
>> garbage which is not a surprise
>>
>> so it was easy to do better
>>
>
> I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not offended
> by my use of punctuation.
>
>
I made my first table. While I had no problems cutting and gluing the
table I had a lot of problems with the finish. With extensive research
and experimentation it is complete and is sitting beside me as I type.

While I know it it not what is consider good by the subscribers to this
newsgroup, I am satisfied with my First table.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 10:34 AM

On 11/14/15 5:54 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> Electric Comet wrote:
>> post info on your last project
>> not many of you post your projects so this is your chance
>>
>> i made a minimalist bookshelf
>> a sort of mission style but more minimal
>> all from previously used lumber
>>
>> also making some tv trays
>> these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier
>>
>> which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
>> garbage which is not a surprise
>>
>> so it was easy to do better
>>
>
> I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not offended
> by my use of punctuation.
>

I'm certainly not... sure makes it easier to read.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 8:53 AM

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:12:00 -0600
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

> Got pictures?

nope
might make another tray and will try to remember a pic












EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 8:54 AM

On 14 Nov 2015 14:46:39 GMT
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

> I decided to make a set of cauls. Wouldn't you know it, though? My
> tools are all set up to cut straight and all the hand planes were
> down with a case of Oak rust! I've got them sitting in a special
> Nitrogen solution to hopefully reverse it.

i will guess
oak rust is from the resins in oak













EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 8:57 AM

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 06:54:38 -0500
"G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I posted my last "project"--such as it was. Hope you are not
> offended by my use of punctuation.

the useful projects are always the best

just curious why the glossy then the satin

i know very little about finishing










EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 9:00 AM

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:56:10 -0500
Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote:

> I made my first table. While I had no problems cutting and gluing
> the table I had a lot of problems with the finish. With extensive
> research and experimentation it is complete and is sitting beside me
> as I type.

i always figure that if you like what you make then it is a success

i always notice my flaws in the stuff i make and no one else does

the shelf i made has a saw burn mark here and there and it almost
looks like the wood grain

i noticed it but no one else mentioned it










EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 9:05 AM

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 06:50:34 -0800 (PST)
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lately, my projects have been put on hold. Been away from home, a
> lot, taking care of Mom, with dementia. To engage her, we built a
> new bird house. Hope to bring it back to her, today, for priming
> and painting. Seems, these little projects (flowers, pot plants,
> also) helps keep her mind off other "issues".... calms her anxieties,
> etc.

like the birdhouse idea

now i know what to do with all the scraps i have
i know an old man that might like one for similar reasons

what kind of bird or is it purely decorative

i know some birds are picky about the house they will use













dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 3:52 PM

G. Ross wrote:

> Hope you are not offended by my use of punctuation.

Good for you...ee cummings et al be damned :)

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 3:55 PM

Electric Comet wrote:
> On 14 Nov 2015 14:46:39 GMT
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> I decided to make a set of cauls. Wouldn't you know it, though? My
>> tools are all set up to cut straight and all the hand planes were
>> down with a case of Oak rust! I've got them sitting in a special
>> Nitrogen solution to hopefully reverse it.
>
> i will guess
> oak rust is from the resins in oak

No, from the tannins. Which is why you don't use iron/steel (non stainless)
fasteners in oak.



EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

15/11/2015 4:23 PM

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 15:55:42 -0500
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, from the tannins. Which is why you don't use iron/steel (non
> stainless) fasteners in oak.

i use resins and tannins to mean the same but i did not know this about
oak and fasteners

i made a small table using oak not too long ago and use stainless just
for the look and i guess i count myself lucky for doing that

i bought high quality stainless nuts and bolts










EC

Electric Comet

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

16/11/2015 2:14 PM

On 16 Nov 2015 15:34:12 GMT
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

> oak rust.

interesting
oak rust is a fungus

tannins are a constituent of resins
tannins in the pulp and paper industry are considered corrosion
inhibitors

and a study showed that pH was a corrosive factor and that tannins
are a corrosion inhibitor












Ll

Leon

in reply to Electric Comet on 13/11/2015 8:39 PM

14/11/2015 8:12 AM

On 11/13/2015 10:39 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> post info on your last project
> not many of you post your projects so this is your chance

Actually I post most of my work as I do it. But I will not repost for
the sake of showing it under this thread.




>
> i made a minimalist bookshelf
> a sort of mission style but more minimal
> all from previously used lumber

got pictures?


>
> also making some tv trays
> these make the usual store bought trays look even cheaper and flimsier
>
> which seems hard as most of the ones i have seen are thrown together
> garbage which is not a surprise
>
> so it was easy to do better
>
Got pictures?


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