Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
Some friends told me bamboo floors were good, but I'm confused now
because I viewed a comment .
"I've seen reports of Bamboo flooring being ripped up due to fast wear
out.
I've seen reports of the plastic wood replacement boards coming apart
-
into messes of plastic - as the wood rots. It only costs 3 times more
and
lasts 5 or so years. Great. I have some on my weather station and the
rest of the "board" (Veranda) in the shop. Maybe the shop board will
last being dry for some years of replacements.
Kinda ugly things put on us - like the water polluting chemical in
Gasoline.
Good ideas forced upon us at our costs. Like Drug companies.
Martin "
The original post :
Typical Types Of Wood Floors
Source: http://www.towood.com/news_detail.php?id=373
Wood Floors can be classified into several types by the type of wood.
1. Solid Wood Floor
Each piece of Solid Wood Floor is made of a single piece of timber .
The
natural wood grains of Solid Wood Floor look beautiful . But Solid
Wood
Floors are expensive. But Expansion and contraction of Solid Wood
Floor from
moisture and temperature fluctuation may occur .
......
4. Bamboo Floor
Bamboo Floor is made of bamboo . Bamboo Floor is durable because the
hardness of bamboo is much higher .
5. Cork Floor
Cork Floor is made of cork which is harvested from the bark of cork
oak
tree. Cork Floor is probably the most comfortable floor because of its
softness, noise reduction, beautiful patterns and special textures.
You had negative experience with the bad quality bamboo floors.
I want to buy bamboo floor, but now I'm afraid how to choose quality
bamboo floors.
On Aug 29, 1:54=A0am, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT), "G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wr=
ote:
> >Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>
> Some are, some aren't.
>
> >Some friends told me bamboo floors were good, but I'm confused now
> >because I viewed a comment .
>
> We loved the (vertical) bamboo I installed in our previous house. =A0This=
house
> (horizontal), not so much. =A0We'll likely replace it in five years or so=
with
> hardwood, if we're still here. =A0IOW, it's a crap-shoot.
>
> >"I've seen reports of Bamboo flooring being ripped up due to fast wear
> >out.
> >I've seen reports of the plastic wood replacement boards coming apart
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=
^^^^^^^^^^
>
> ??? =A0
On Aug 29, 6:42=A0am, "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > G.Jitu wrote:
> >> Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>
> > Some are, some aren't....like most things, it depends on whether one bu=
ys
> > good material and does a quality installation.
>
> > There are all types of bamboo flooring and bamboo itself, like wood
> > consists of many species which have different characteritics--"bamboo" =
is
> > not all just "bamboo".
>
> > You need to research more about it -- there is quite a plethora of
> > information available from flooring manufacturers, trade associations,
> > etc., etc., etc., that discuss the various factors; I'm not going to ev=
en
> > try to write a treatise here.
>
> I am always leery of the glue they use. Bamboo is little strips of "wood"
> all glued together, usually in China. With so much glue used in the assem=
bly
> and their propensity to use toxic materials, one never knows what is in i=
t,
> what is off-gassing from the glue chemicals and the quality of the adhesi=
ve
> bond.
Will pay attention to this . thanks !
My god, I thought all bamboo floors were hard . confused ....
On Aug 30, 10:53=A0pm, "PB" <[email protected]> wrote:
> G. Jitu
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Bamboo floors have their place that they work wel=
l and they will
> FAIL miserably in other areas. I installed over 1200 sqft of bamboo form
> Lumber Liquidators. The material is very soft !!!!! =A0As a key example t=
ake a
> normal 8 ounce glass tumber and drop in free fall onto the floor. If the
> bottom hits first, the floor WILL NOW HAVE A NASTY DENT !!!! =A0Dining ro=
om
> chairs will dammage the floor as folks push back from the table.. Office
> chairs with rollers will severely rut the floor. I witness this first han=
d
> in my own home. The flooring I used is solid bamboo not the engineered
> laminate type. I also went with the "Hortizontal " type. This means when =
you
> look at the flooring each plank is a series of bamboo strips glued togeth=
er.
> For bedroom use nice choice, for anywhere esle do not use this product. W=
ith
> regard to the information below regarding Bamboo as hard, comapred to oak=
,
> it is SUPER soft. I tore out the 50 year old oak flooring that was here.
> (Tearing out many walls created a nightmare to try to save the floor) The
> oak floor never had any of the damage issues I now have with bamboo.
>
> Paul
>
> "G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>
> > Some friends told me bamboo floors were good, but I'm confused now
> > because I viewed a comment .
>
> > "I've seen reports of Bamboo flooring being ripped up due to fast wear
> > out.
> > I've seen reports of the plastic wood replacement boards coming apart
> > -
> > into messes of plastic - as the wood rots. =A0It only costs 3 times mor=
e
> > and
> > lasts 5 or so years. =A0Great. I have some on my weather station and th=
e
> > rest of the "board" (Veranda) in the shop. =A0Maybe the shop board will
> > last being dry for some years of replacements.
> > Kinda ugly things put on us - like the water polluting chemical in
> > Gasoline.
> > Good ideas forced upon us at our costs. =A0Like Drug companies.
> > Martin "
>
> > The original post :
> > Typical Types Of Wood Floors
> > Source:http://www.towood.com/news_detail.php?id=3D373
>
> > Wood Floors can be classified into several types by the type of wood.
>
> > 1. Solid Wood Floor
> > Each piece of Solid Wood Floor is made of a single piece of timber .
> > The
> > natural wood grains of Solid Wood Floor look beautiful . But Solid
> > Wood
> > Floors are expensive. But Expansion and contraction of Solid Wood
> > Floor from
> > moisture and temperature fluctuation may occur .
> > ......
> > 4. Bamboo Floor
> > Bamboo Floor is made of bamboo . Bamboo Floor is durable because the
> > hardness of bamboo is much higher .
>
> > 5. Cork Floor
> > Cork Floor is made of cork which is harvested from the bark of cork
> > oak
> > tree. Cork Floor is probably the most comfortable floor because of its
> > softness, noise reduction, beautiful patterns and special textures.
for consumers, hardness and scratch resistance are quite important.
but how to know the hardness and scratch resistance of bamboo floor
when buying
On Aug 31, 2:06=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 9:53=A0am, "PB" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > G. Jitu
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Bamboo floors have their place that they work w=
ell and they will
> > FAIL miserably in other areas. I installed over 1200 sqft of bamboo for=
m
> > Lumber Liquidators. The material is very soft !!!!! =A0As a key example=
take a
> > normal 8 ounce glass tumber and drop in free fall onto the floor. If th=
e
> > bottom hits first, the floor WILL NOW HAVE A NASTY DENT !!!! =A0Dining =
room
> > chairs will dammage the floor as folks push back from the table.. Offic=
e
> > chairs with rollers will severely rut the floor. I witness this first h=
and
> > in my own home. The flooring I used is solid bamboo not the engineered
> > laminate type. I also went with the "Hortizontal " type. This means whe=
n you
> > look at the flooring each plank is a series of bamboo strips glued toge=
ther.
> > For bedroom use nice choice, for anywhere esle do not use this product.=
With
> > regard to the information below regarding Bamboo as hard, comapred to o=
ak,
> > it is SUPER soft. I tore out the 50 year old oak flooring that was here=
.
> > (Tearing out many walls created a nightmare to try to save the floor) T=
he
> > oak floor never had any of the damage issues I now have with bamboo.
>
> Bamboo hardness is quite variable. =A0Some is significantly harder than
> Oak, obviously some not. =A0The stuff I put in my previous house was
> quite hard and scratch resistant. =A0The problem we have with the floors
> in our current house is not so much that they're soft, but the surface
> scratches very easily and has faded terribly.
>
> There is a lot of information to be found with a web search. =A0This
> article proposes that the darker the carbonization the softer. =A0That's
> not the whole story because our previous floors were carbonized-
> medium. =A0The ones in our current house are light. =A0Anyway, FWIW:
>
> http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/bamboo_hardness.htm
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:30:19 -0700 (PDT), "G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wrote:
>for consumers, hardness and scratch resistance are quite important.
Exactly.
>but how to know the hardness and scratch resistance of bamboo floor
>when buying
That *is* the question.
>On Aug 31, 2:06 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Aug 30, 9:53 am, "PB" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > G. Jitu
>> > Bamboo floors have their place that they work well and they will
>> > FAIL miserably in other areas. I installed over 1200 sqft of bamboo form
>> > Lumber Liquidators. The material is very soft !!!!! As a key example take a
>> > normal 8 ounce glass tumber and drop in free fall onto the floor. If the
>> > bottom hits first, the floor WILL NOW HAVE A NASTY DENT !!!! Dining room
>> > chairs will dammage the floor as folks push back from the table.. Office
>> > chairs with rollers will severely rut the floor. I witness this first hand
>> > in my own home. The flooring I used is solid bamboo not the engineered
>> > laminate type. I also went with the "Hortizontal " type. This means when you
>> > look at the flooring each plank is a series of bamboo strips glued together.
>> > For bedroom use nice choice, for anywhere esle do not use this product. With
>> > regard to the information below regarding Bamboo as hard, comapred to oak,
>> > it is SUPER soft. I tore out the 50 year old oak flooring that was here.
>> > (Tearing out many walls created a nightmare to try to save the floor) The
>> > oak floor never had any of the damage issues I now have with bamboo.
>>
>> Bamboo hardness is quite variable. Some is significantly harder than
>> Oak, obviously some not. The stuff I put in my previous house was
>> quite hard and scratch resistant. The problem we have with the floors
>> in our current house is not so much that they're soft, but the surface
>> scratches very easily and has faded terribly.
>>
>> There is a lot of information to be found with a web search. This
>> article proposes that the darker the carbonization the softer. That's
>> not the whole story because our previous floors were carbonized-
>> medium. The ones in our current house are light. Anyway, FWIW:
>>
>> http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/bamboo_hardness.htm
"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> G.Jitu wrote:
>> Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>
> Some are, some aren't....like most things, it depends on whether one buys
> good material and does a quality installation.
>
> There are all types of bamboo flooring and bamboo itself, like wood
> consists of many species which have different characteritics--"bamboo" is
> not all just "bamboo".
>
> You need to research more about it -- there is quite a plethora of
> information available from flooring manufacturers, trade associations,
> etc., etc., etc., that discuss the various factors; I'm not going to even
> try to write a treatise here.
I am always leery of the glue they use. Bamboo is little strips of "wood"
all glued together, usually in China. With so much glue used in the assembly
and their propensity to use toxic materials, one never knows what is in it,
what is off-gassing from the glue chemicals and the quality of the adhesive
bond.
G. Jitu
Bamboo floors have their place that they work well and they will
FAIL miserably in other areas. I installed over 1200 sqft of bamboo form
Lumber Liquidators. The material is very soft !!!!! As a key example take a
normal 8 ounce glass tumber and drop in free fall onto the floor. If the
bottom hits first, the floor WILL NOW HAVE A NASTY DENT !!!! Dining room
chairs will dammage the floor as folks push back from the table.. Office
chairs with rollers will severely rut the floor. I witness this first hand
in my own home. The flooring I used is solid bamboo not the engineered
laminate type. I also went with the "Hortizontal " type. This means when you
look at the flooring each plank is a series of bamboo strips glued together.
For bedroom use nice choice, for anywhere esle do not use this product. With
regard to the information below regarding Bamboo as hard, comapred to oak,
it is SUPER soft. I tore out the 50 year old oak flooring that was here.
(Tearing out many walls created a nightmare to try to save the floor) The
oak floor never had any of the damage issues I now have with bamboo.
Paul
"G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>
> Some friends told me bamboo floors were good, but I'm confused now
> because I viewed a comment .
>
> "I've seen reports of Bamboo flooring being ripped up due to fast wear
> out.
> I've seen reports of the plastic wood replacement boards coming apart
> -
> into messes of plastic - as the wood rots. It only costs 3 times more
> and
> lasts 5 or so years. Great. I have some on my weather station and the
> rest of the "board" (Veranda) in the shop. Maybe the shop board will
> last being dry for some years of replacements.
> Kinda ugly things put on us - like the water polluting chemical in
> Gasoline.
> Good ideas forced upon us at our costs. Like Drug companies.
> Martin "
>
>
> The original post :
> Typical Types Of Wood Floors
> Source: http://www.towood.com/news_detail.php?id=373
>
> Wood Floors can be classified into several types by the type of wood.
>
> 1. Solid Wood Floor
> Each piece of Solid Wood Floor is made of a single piece of timber .
> The
> natural wood grains of Solid Wood Floor look beautiful . But Solid
> Wood
> Floors are expensive. But Expansion and contraction of Solid Wood
> Floor from
> moisture and temperature fluctuation may occur .
> ......
> 4. Bamboo Floor
> Bamboo Floor is made of bamboo . Bamboo Floor is durable because the
> hardness of bamboo is much higher .
>
> 5. Cork Floor
> Cork Floor is made of cork which is harvested from the bark of cork
> oak
> tree. Cork Floor is probably the most comfortable floor because of its
> softness, noise reduction, beautiful patterns and special textures.
On 8/28/2010 8:17 PM, G.Jitu wrote:
> You had negative experience with the bad quality bamboo floors.
> I want to buy bamboo floor, but now I'm afraid how to choose quality
> bamboo floors.
With bamboo flooring, you're at the mercy of the retailer. Do your
homework carefully, pick your retailer for longevity, experience and
good referrals, and you should be OK ... but, like one poster said "it's
a crap shoot" with this type of flooring.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Aug 29, 12:36=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/28/2010 8:17 PM, G.Jitu wrote:
>
> > You had negative experience with the bad quality bamboo floors.
> > I want to buy bamboo floor, but now I'm afraid how to choose quality
> > bamboo floors.
>
> With bamboo flooring, you're at the mercy of the retailer. Do your
> homework carefully, pick your retailer for longevity, experience and
> good referrals, and you should be OK ... but, like one poster said "it's
> a crap shoot" with this type of flooring.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
The complaints I have heard (aside from unanticipated panda invasions)
is that the solid bamboo floors tend to have issues with humidity
cycles. One customer bought a bamboo lamination (veneer?) laid up on
engineered wood planks and she is very pleased. I like the look of
cork flooring but the wear factor is said to be limited.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:17:53 -0700 (PDT), "G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wrote:
>You had negative experience with the bad quality bamboo floors.
I had both positive and negative. Evidently there is a big difference in
bamboo.
>I want to buy bamboo floor, but now I'm afraid how to choose quality
>bamboo floors.
You got me there. Like I said, it's a crap-shoot. I bought the bamboo for my
previous house online and was very happy with it (6' vertical - medium
carbonized). The floors that came in this house are junk (horizontal - light
carbonized, I think). They looked like hell before we even moved in. If you
look in the great room closet you can see the original color is about ten
shades darker. I bet I didn't pay as much (<$3/ft^2) for the stuff I bought
as the builder did, either. How to know what you're getting? Beats the hell
out of me.
>On Aug 29, 1:54 am, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT), "G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>>
>> Some are, some aren't.
>>
>> >Some friends told me bamboo floors were good, but I'm confused now
>> >because I viewed a comment .
>>
>> We loved the (vertical) bamboo I installed in our previous house. This house
>> (horizontal), not so much. We'll likely replace it in five years or so with
>> hardwood, if we're still here. IOW, it's a crap-shoot.
>>
>> >"I've seen reports of Bamboo flooring being ripped up due to fast wear
>> >out.
>> >I've seen reports of the plastic wood replacement boards coming apart
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> ???
On 8/29/2010 10:06 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 29, 12:36 am, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>> With bamboo flooring, you're at the mercy of the retailer. Do your
>> homework carefully, pick your retailer for longevity, experience and
>> good referrals, and you should be OK ... but, like one poster said "it's
>> a crap shoot" with this type of flooring.
> The complaints I have heard (aside from unanticipated panda invasions)
> is that the solid bamboo floors tend to have issues with humidity
> cycles. One customer bought a bamboo lamination (veneer?) laid up on
> engineered wood planks and she is very pleased. I like the look of
> cork flooring but the wear factor is said to be limited.
Lots of older folks are requesting cork lately. Although it took me
almost a month to do it, I recently persuaded a remodeling client to
forego the 1500+ sf of cork flooring.
One of the problems, IME, was in getting a consistent float throughout
the area, which included six rooms and a large hallway ... the FF to
ceiling measurements in the house currently vary by almost 2" (often in
the same room) and I couldn't get a bid which included demo'ing the
existing, floating, and installation, which makes me suspicious that
there is going to be some finger pointing in the future if one sub is
not responsible for all three.
--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:54:39 -0700 (PDT), "G.Jitu" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
Some are, some aren't.
>Some friends told me bamboo floors were good, but I'm confused now
>because I viewed a comment .
We loved the (vertical) bamboo I installed in our previous house. This house
(horizontal), not so much. We'll likely replace it in five years or so with
hardwood, if we're still here. IOW, it's a crap-shoot.
>"I've seen reports of Bamboo flooring being ripped up due to fast wear
>out.
>I've seen reports of the plastic wood replacement boards coming apart
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
???
On Aug 30, 9:53=A0am, "PB" <[email protected]> wrote:
> G. Jitu
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Bamboo floors have their place that they work wel=
l and they will
> FAIL miserably in other areas. I installed over 1200 sqft of bamboo form
> Lumber Liquidators. The material is very soft !!!!! =A0As a key example t=
ake a
> normal 8 ounce glass tumber and drop in free fall onto the floor. If the
> bottom hits first, the floor WILL NOW HAVE A NASTY DENT !!!! =A0Dining ro=
om
> chairs will dammage the floor as folks push back from the table.. Office
> chairs with rollers will severely rut the floor. I witness this first han=
d
> in my own home. The flooring I used is solid bamboo not the engineered
> laminate type. I also went with the "Hortizontal " type. This means when =
you
> look at the flooring each plank is a series of bamboo strips glued togeth=
er.
> For bedroom use nice choice, for anywhere esle do not use this product. W=
ith
> regard to the information below regarding Bamboo as hard, comapred to oak=
,
> it is SUPER soft. I tore out the 50 year old oak flooring that was here.
> (Tearing out many walls created a nightmare to try to save the floor) The
> oak floor never had any of the damage issues I now have with bamboo.
Bamboo hardness is quite variable. Some is significantly harder than
Oak, obviously some not. The stuff I put in my previous house was
quite hard and scratch resistant. The problem we have with the floors
in our current house is not so much that they're soft, but the surface
scratches very easily and has faded terribly.
There is a lot of information to be found with a web search. This
article proposes that the darker the carbonization the softer. That's
not the whole story because our previous floors were carbonized-
medium. The ones in our current house are light. Anyway, FWIW:
http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/hardwoodinstaller/bamboo_hardness.htm
Do you mean there are some different kinds of bamboo floors ?
On Aug 29, 1:40=A0am, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> G.Jitu wrote:
> > Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
>
> Some are, some aren't....like most things, it depends on whether one
> buys good material and does a quality installation.
>
> There are all types of bamboo flooring and bamboo itself, like wood
> consists of many species which have different characteritics--"bamboo"
> is not all just "bamboo".
>
> You need to research more about it -- there is quite a plethora of
> information available from flooring manufacturers, trade associations,
> etc., etc., etc., that discuss the various factors; I'm not going to
> even try to write a treatise here.
>
> ...
>
> --
G.Jitu wrote:
> Are bamboo floors of bad quality ?
Some are, some aren't....like most things, it depends on whether one
buys good material and does a quality installation.
There are all types of bamboo flooring and bamboo itself, like wood
consists of many species which have different characteritics--"bamboo"
is not all just "bamboo".
You need to research more about it -- there is quite a plethora of
information available from flooring manufacturers, trade associations,
etc., etc., etc., that discuss the various factors; I'm not going to
even try to write a treatise here.
...
--