On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
> voter turnout.
>
FWIW voter turn out was very good this time around.
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 11:08:23 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>
>> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
>> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
>> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
>> voter turnout.
>>
>
>At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
>bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
>Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
It's scary to think about the number who can't.
"[email protected]" wrote:
> To compare voting to hundreds of thousands of dead
> people is foolish.
https://www.redstatememewar.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/img_4877.jpg
On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 5:54:31 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wr=
ote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 6:19:47 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:45:46 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >=20
> > >Hundreds of thousands of people=3D
> > > died on both sides in that revolution.
> >=20
> > https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/american-revolution-faqs
> >=20
> > Read a bit of history, you will see your estimates of causality count
> > are a bit off.
>=20
> Wow. I never realized the Revolutionary war was such a little pecker of =
a war. To put it real bluntly. Just 80 years later we had progressed so m=
uch that we were killing off the total number killed in the Revolutionary w=
ar in just one battle. That's good progress.
>=20
> I guess comparing voting to a mere 25,000 dead people is not much. Today=
we happily kill off more than that with opium pills or needles. And suici=
de and maybe even car crashes. Maybe car crashes don't kill off that many.
And in some States, prolly some of those folks are still voting. My vote(s=
) may have gone to Putin, who knows.
Sonny
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 6:19:47 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:45:46 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >Hundreds of thousands of people=3D
> > died on both sides in that revolution.
>=20
> https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/american-revolution-faqs
>=20
> Read a bit of history, you will see your estimates of causality count
> are a bit off.
Wow. I never realized the Revolutionary war was such a little pecker of a =
war. To put it real bluntly. Just 80 years later we had progressed so muc=
h that we were killing off the total number killed in the Revolutionary war=
in just one battle. That's good progress.
I guess comparing voting to a mere 25,000 dead people is not much. Today w=
e happily kill off more than that with opium pills or needles. And suicide=
and maybe even car crashes. Maybe car crashes don't kill off that many.
On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
voter turnout.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:45:46 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
>I'm not sure Jefferson used very good wording in this case.
snip
I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and
as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.
Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on
the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of
this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their
punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a
medecine necessary for the sound health of government.
Thomas Jefferson, Letters of Thomas Jefferson
On 11/7/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 11:08:23 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>>
>>> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
>>> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
>>> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
>>> voter turnout.
>>>
>>
>> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
>> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
>> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
>
> It's scary to think about the number who can't.
>
Yeah, I recall the millennials reactions to Clinton loosing the
election. They buy into the media hook, line, and sinker.
On 11/8/2018 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>
>> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>>
>> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
>
> With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
> Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
> harm that can be done.
>
WHAT F ing harm?????????
Lowest unemployment in decades? A thriving economy? Finally
negotiating with N Korea? Undoing a stupid nuclear treaty with Iran?
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 02:34:17 -0700, Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/6/2018 7:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem wrote:
>>
>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>
>> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
>> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
>> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
>> voter turnout.
>
>We should have "none of the above" as a choice. If "none of
>the above" gets a plurality of the votes, the candidates on
>the ballot are disqualified and we have another election with
>a new slate of candidates.
I agree completely. Of course it would probably take a number of
election cycles for the various parties to figure out that the jig was
up.
>We should have "none of the above" as a choice. If "none of
>the above" gets a plurality of the votes, the candidates on
>the ballot are disqualified and we have another election with
>a new slate of candidates.
Been saying this for years. All I ever hear is 'write someone in'. I
don't believe that sends the same message. So I write in 'none of the
above'. I want to vote, not take a multiple choice test.
If you don't like any of the above scoundrels, then maybe it's time to
change the method. Because 'it's the way it's always been done'
doesn't mean it's the most effective way anymore.
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 11:54:13 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 11/8/2018 8:15 AM, Jack wrote:
> > On 11/7/2018 12:08 PM, Leon wrote:
> >=20
> >> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look ha=
lf
> >> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
> >> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
> >=20
> > =C2=A0+1
> >=20
> > Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the moron=
s=20
> > that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,etc=
.
> >=20
> > The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voters=
=20
> > plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why=20
> > they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't care=
=20
> > if they vote or not, they will vote for them.=C2=A0 Mail in ballots are=
also=20
> > a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.
> >=20
>=20
> A perfect example, Trump and the media, specifically the CNN reporter=20
> that was totally off topic during the news conference concerning the=20
> election. =20
I'm not defending Acosta's *behavior* in any manner, but reporters from all
sides - friend and foe - were asking questions unrelated to the election.
His tax-returns, the Russian probe, immigration, etc.
Yes, the opening remarks were about the election, but the questions ranged
far and wide from many other reporters, not just those trying to trip
Trump up. Trump had no issue with answering non-election related questions,=
=20
nor should he have. =20
> He was rude and disrespectful to every one in the room=20
> especially other reporters that wanted to ask questions.
>=20
Acosta was absolutely being an a-hole, but it wasn't because of the subject=
=20
matter of his questions, it was his method.
Markem <[email protected]> wrote:
> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
https://i.imgur.com/BGCDJll.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwv12taUcAAKmWC.jpg
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1800/1*SMsjFOs5YHM2-jst7VmJcQ.jpeg
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On 11/8/2018 5:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 11:54:13 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/8/2018 8:15 AM, Jack wrote:
>>> On 11/7/2018 12:08 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
>>>> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
>>>> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
>>>
>>> Â +1
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the morons
>>> that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,etc.
>>>
>>> The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voters
>>> plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why
>>> they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't care
>>> if they vote or not, they will vote for them. Mail in ballots are also
>>> a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.
>>>
>>
>> A perfect example, Trump and the media, specifically the CNN reporter
>> that was totally off topic during the news conference concerning the
>> election.
>
> I'm not defending Acosta's *behavior* in any manner, but reporters from all
> sides - friend and foe - were asking questions unrelated to the election.
> His tax-returns, the Russian probe, immigration, etc.
I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK
but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several
attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a
hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight
and he got his ass in a jam.
>
>> He was rude and disrespectful to every one in the room
>> especially other reporters that wanted to ask questions.
>>
>
> Acosta was absolutely being an a-hole, but it wasn't because of the subject
> matter of his questions, it was his method.
>
I'm not sure he had a method. If he did it certainly was not working.
Trump is a negotiator and the PIA press is so inept they think that
Trump is being mean, so those "like" Acosta walk into the press room
with a chip on their shoulders.
The media's motto.
"Never let the facts get in the way of a sensational "story".
On 11/9/2018 4:54 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/9/2018 6:52 AM, Jack wrote:
>> On 11/8/2018 7:58 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK
>>>> but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several
>>>> attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a
>>>> hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight
>>>> and he got his ass in a jam.
>>>
>>> You do know that I'm agreeing with you about his behavior, don't you?
>>> My only
>>> point was that you included the words "totally off topic" in your
>>> comments
>>> about him as if that was something else that he did wrong. His being
>>> "off-
>>> topic" had nothing to do with him being an a-hole. Many others asked
>>> questions
>>> that were "totally off topic" so that shouldn't be included as if it
>>> was part
>>> of the (his) problem.
>>
>> Dunno what Leon meant, but by "off topic" I'd say the "topic" of a
>> Press Conference is the "Press" asking the Prez questions. It is NOT
>> about so called "Newsmen" expressing their opinion. Trump was right
>> on calling the dick out, but he should have added to get a press pass,
>> you must be a member of the press, not the propaganda arm of the Dims,
>> spewing forth their Dimwitted opinions. If it were me, and yins are
>> all lucky it's not, I would make it known any person from the press
>> expressing their opinion would have their press card revoked
>> permanently. Send newsmen to ask questions, not commentators to spew
>> their lame personal opinions on the world.
>
> Also should explain that the one in control is the one calling
> the conference, not the rank and file press members.
True. Acosta was called out on this, but it has been going on for many
years and many presidents of both parties. Now much different with
other press conferences where the reporters want to impress their own
viewers. Its sees they want to make the question more important than
the answer. Ratings.
On 11/9/2018 6:52 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 11/8/2018 7:58 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>
>>> I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK
>>> but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several
>>> attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a
>>> hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight
>>> and he got his ass in a jam.
>>
>> You do know that I'm agreeing with you about his behavior, don't you?
>> My only
>> point was that you included the words "totally off topic" in your
>> comments
>> about him as if that was something else that he did wrong. His being
>> "off-
>> topic" had nothing to do with him being an a-hole. Many others asked
>> questions
>> that were "totally off topic" so that shouldn't be included as if it
>> was part
>> of the (his) problem.
>
> Dunno what Leon meant, but by "off topic" I'd say the "topic" of a Press
> Conference is the "Press" asking the Prez questions. It is NOT about so
> called "Newsmen" expressing their opinion. Trump was right on calling
> the dick out, but he should have added to get a press pass, you must be
> a member of the press, not the propaganda arm of the Dims, spewing forth
> their Dimwitted opinions. If it were me, and yins are all lucky it's
> not, I would make it known any person from the press expressing their
> opinion would have their press card revoked permanently. Send newsmen to
> ask questions, not commentators to spew their lame personal opinions on
> the world.
Also should explain that the one in control is the one calling
the conference, not the rank and file press members.
On 11/8/2018 6:49 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/8/18 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>>
>>> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the
>>> 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made
>>> before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is
>>> what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to
>>> return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>>>
>>> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed"
>>> electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
>>
>> With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
>> Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
>> harm that can be done.
>>
>
> However, these are the times when some actual progress can be made.
>
> They all want to look good two years from now, and by passing some
> non-partisan stuff like infrastructure bills, the ones "in the middle"
> can look good to their constituents come reelection time.
>
> They know the only way to get anything passed is for it to be what both
> sides want and what the POTUS will sign.
>
>
That seems to have gone by the wayside in recent years. Seems both
sides are getting extreme and digging in hard rather than consider
compromise for the good of the people.
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
I'm not sure Jefferson used very good wording in this case. I know he is k=
nown for writing some good things back in his day. But not this. At the t=
ime he was around, the USA had just fought a fairly bloody and deadly "revo=
lution" with England for its independence. Hundreds of thousands of people=
died on both sides in that revolution. To compare voting to hundreds of t=
housands of dead people is foolish. I'm pretty sure if someone had stuck a=
flintlock pistol into his mouth and said "you vote and I blow your head of=
f". He would have said "I'll skip voting".
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 15:02:02 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> > On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> >> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>> >
>> > It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
>> > it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
>> > candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
>> > voter turnout.
>> >
>>
>> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
>> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
>> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
>
>Republicans lost the house Tuesday. Wednesday there were no riots, no
>protests, no videos of large groups of voters sobbing uncontrollably,
>no grief counselors at universities, no celebrities threatening to
>move to Canada, no property destroyed, no one threatened, everyone
>went back to work...
>
>"This is what a civilization looks like as it starts to fall":
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mizoXyhY8
Indeed. This isn't the first time this has happened. It will get
worse.
On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. T=
he vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and n=
ot kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced =
the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies th=
at led to eight years of almost no growth.
This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It w=
ould be nice if we had one.
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:08:45 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 11/8/2018 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >=20
> >> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
> >>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> >>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
> >>
> >> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6t=
h. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before =
and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has prod=
uced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the polici=
es that led to eight years of almost no growth.
> >>
> >> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. =
It would be nice if we had one.
> >=20
> > With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
> > Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
> > harm that can be done.
> >=20
>=20
> WHAT F ing harm?????????
>=20
> Lowest unemployment in decades? A thriving economy? Finally=20
> negotiating with N Korea? Undoing a stupid nuclear treaty with Iran?
Well, we'll continue to negotiate with North Korea as soon as they=20
reschedule the meeting that they abruptly cancelled for yesterday.=20
Probably a tactic, hoping that they can deal with Trump directly.=20
It's not like they were short of cash for the flight to NYC. ;-)
https://tinyurl.com/NK-ATM-HACK
https://news.sky.com/story/atms-spew-cash-after-hack-by-north-koreans-11548=
162
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 11/8/2018 5:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 11:54:13 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> On 11/8/2018 8:15 AM, Jack wrote:
> >>> On 11/7/2018 12:08 PM, Leon wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look =
half
> >>>> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of contex=
t.
> >>>> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
> >>>
> >>> =C2=A0+1
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the mor=
ons
> >>> that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,e=
tc.
> >>>
> >>> The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voter=
s
> >>> plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why
> >>> they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't ca=
re
> >>> if they vote or not, they will vote for them.=C2=A0 Mail in ballots a=
re also
> >>> a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.
> >>>
> >>
> >> A perfect example, Trump and the media, specifically the CNN reporter
> >> that was totally off topic during the news conference concerning the
> >> election.
> >=20
> > I'm not defending Acosta's *behavior* in any manner, but reporters from=
all
> > sides - friend and foe - were asking questions unrelated to the electio=
n.
> > His tax-returns, the Russian probe, immigration, etc.
>=20
> I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK=
=20
> but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several=
=20
> attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a=
=20
> hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight=20
> and he got his ass in a jam.
You do know that I'm agreeing with you about his behavior, don't you? My on=
ly
point was that you included the words "totally off topic" in your comments=
=20
about him as if that was something else that he did wrong. His being "off-
topic" had nothing to do with him being an a-hole. Many others asked questi=
ons=20
that were "totally off topic" so that shouldn't be included as if it was pa=
rt=20
of the (his) problem.=20
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> >> He was rude and disrespectful to every one in the room
> >> especially other reporters that wanted to ask questions.
> >>
> >=20
> > Acosta was absolutely being an a-hole, but it wasn't because of the sub=
ject
> > matter of his questions, it was his method.
> >=20
>=20
> I'm not sure he had a method. If he did it certainly was not working.=20
> Trump is a negotiator and the PIA press is so inept they think that=20
> Trump is being mean, so those "like" Acosta walk into the press room=20
> with a chip on their shoulders.
>=20
> The media's motto.
>=20
> "Never let the facts get in the way of a sensational "story".
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> >> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
> >
> > It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
> > it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
> > candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
> > voter turnout.
> >
>
> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
Republicans lost the house Tuesday. Wednesday there were no riots, no
protests, no videos of large groups of voters sobbing uncontrollably,
no grief counselors at universities, no celebrities threatening to
move to Canada, no property destroyed, no one threatened, everyone
went back to work...
"This is what a civilization looks like as it starts to fall":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mizoXyhY8
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 17:49:37 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 11/8/18 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>>
>>> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>>>
>>> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
>>
>> With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
>> Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
>> harm that can be done.
>>
>
>However, these are the times when some actual progress can be made.
>
>They all want to look good two years from now, and by passing some
>non-partisan stuff like infrastructure bills, the ones "in the middle"
>can look good to their constituents come reelection time.
The problem is that there aren't any Democrats in the middle anymore.
They're _all_ full Che Guevara socialists.
>
>They know the only way to get anything passed is for it to be what both
>sides want and what the POTUS will sign.
On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
> voter turnout.
>
FWIW voter turn out was very good this time around.
On 11/8/2018 8:15 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 11/7/2018 12:08 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
>> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
>> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
>
> Â +1
>
> Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the morons
> that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,etc.
>
> The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voters
> plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why
> they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't care
> if they vote or not, they will vote for them. Mail in ballots are also
> a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.
>
A perfect example, Trump and the media, specifically the CNN reporter
that was totally off topic during the news conference concerning the
election. He was rude and disrespectful to every one in the room
especially other reporters that wanted to ask questions.
An as expected Trump is portrayed as the bad guy. More spin.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:45:46 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hundreds of thousands of people=
> died on both sides in that revolution.
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/american-revolution-faqs
Read a bit of history, you will see your estimates of causality count
are a bit off.
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:47:41 +0000, Spalted Walt
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Markem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
>From what I've seen on the news, it certainly looks like Florida
>voters are ready to "revolt".
>
>For a party that is willing to cry wolf over voter suppression in
>every election they lose, Democrats have no problem relying on
>fraudulent ballots to do the heavy lifting for candidates.
When politics becomes religion, the ends justify the means. Any means.
>"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes
>decide everything." -- Joseph Stalin
That's exactly what the American left is.
>Once the integrity of the American voting process is lost, what
>happens to America ?
Where were you in 2000?
>
>There was a time, in our not too distant past, when real men used to
>correct this type of corruption:
><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw>
Forty years ago, Hillary would indeed have been locked up. Boundless
corruption is now the norm.
>
><https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrzzUESV4AA_LJf.jpg>
><https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrxOBKBXcAAbyCx.jpg>
><https://www.lauraloomer.us/blog/exclusive-provisional-ballot-boxes-left-inside-avis-rental-car-at-fort-lauderdale-airport>
><http://bit.ly/2RMOozP>
On 11/8/2018 9:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 17:49:37 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/8/18 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>>>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>>>
>>>> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>>>>
>>>> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
>>>
>>> With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
>>> Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
>>> harm that can be done.
>>>
>>
>> However, these are the times when some actual progress can be made.
>>
>> They all want to look good two years from now, and by passing some
>> non-partisan stuff like infrastructure bills, the ones "in the middle"
>> can look good to their constituents come reelection time.
>
> The problem is that there aren't any Democrats in the middle anymore.
> They're _all_ full Che Guevara socialists.
I think you are correct on that count. And easily swayed by the media.
>>
>> They know the only way to get anything passed is for it to be what both
>> sides want and what the POTUS will sign.
On 11/9/2018 7:52 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 11/8/2018 7:58 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>
>>> I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK
>>> but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several
>>> attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a
>>> hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight
>>> and he got his ass in a jam.
>>
>> You do know that I'm agreeing with you about his behavior, don't you?
>> My only
>> point was that you included the words "totally off topic" in your
>> comments
>> about him as if that was something else that he did wrong. His being
>> "off-
>> topic" had nothing to do with him being an a-hole. Many others asked
>> questions
>> that were "totally off topic" so that shouldn't be included as if it
>> was part
>> of the (his) problem.
>
> Dunno what Leon meant, but by "off topic" I'd say the "topic" of a Press
> Conference is the "Press" asking the Prez questions. It is NOT about so
> called "Newsmen" expressing their opinion. Trump was right on calling
> the dick out, but he should have added to get a press pass, you must be
> a member of the press, not the propaganda arm of the Dims, spewing forth
> their Dimwitted opinions. If it were me, and yins are all lucky it's
> not, I would make it known any person from the press expressing their
> opinion would have their press card revoked permanently. Send newsmen to
> ask questions, not commentators to spew their lame personal opinions on
> the world.
Yeah, I think you better expressed what I was trying to say. +1
On 11/8/2018 6:58 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/8/2018 5:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 11:54:13 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/2018 8:15 AM, Jack wrote:
>>>>> On 11/7/2018 12:08 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
>>>>>> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
>>>>>> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
>>>>>
>>>>> Â +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the morons
>>>>> that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voters
>>>>> plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why
>>>>> they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't care
>>>>> if they vote or not, they will vote for them. Mail in ballots are also
>>>>> a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A perfect example, Trump and the media, specifically the CNN reporter
>>>> that was totally off topic during the news conference concerning the
>>>> election.
>>>
>>> I'm not defending Acosta's *behavior* in any manner, but reporters from all
>>> sides - friend and foe - were asking questions unrelated to the election.
>>> His tax-returns, the Russian probe, immigration, etc.
>>
>> I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK
>> but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several
>> attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a
>> hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight
>> and he got his ass in a jam.
>
> You do know that I'm agreeing with you about his behavior, don't you? My only
> point was that you included the words "totally off topic" in your comments
> about him as if that was something else that he did wrong. His being "off-
> topic" had nothing to do with him being an a-hole. Many others asked questions
> that were "totally off topic" so that shouldn't be included as if it was part
> of the (his) problem.
Yes, I know you were agreeing. Sorry if I seemed to be argumentative on
that.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 15:02:02 +0000, Spalted Walt
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> >> >> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
> >> >
> >> > It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
> >> > it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
> >> > candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
> >> > voter turnout.
> >> >
> >>
> >> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
> >> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
> >> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
> >
> >Republicans lost the house Tuesday. Wednesday there were no riots, no
> >protests, no videos of large groups of voters sobbing uncontrollably,
> >no grief counselors at universities, no celebrities threatening to
> >move to Canada, no property destroyed, no one threatened, everyone
> >went back to work...
> >
> >"This is what a civilization looks like as it starts to fall":
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mizoXyhY8
>
> Indeed. This isn't the first time this has happened. It will get
> worse.
Antifa soy boys are a cowardly, trifling, and shiftless brood. While
they demonstrate the state of their calloused hearts by their despicable
actions, they stoke the fires of discord and hate with impunity. Empty
cans make the most noise. Tucker Carlson is fire, they're barely smoke:
<https://www.youtube.com/embed/YFNpOlb1OBU?autoplay=1&rel=0>
0:46 Now THAT'S how you turn a fruit into a vegetable !!
On 11/6/2018 8:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
> voter turnout.
>
At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
Markem <[email protected]> wrote:
> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
From what I've seen on the news, it certainly looks like Florida
voters are ready to "revolt".
For a party that is willing to cry wolf over voter suppression in
every election they lose, Democrats have no problem relying on
fraudulent ballots to do the heavy lifting for candidates.
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes
decide everything." -- Joseph Stalin
Once the integrity of the American voting process is lost, what
happens to America ?
There was a time, in our not too distant past, when real men used to
correct this type of corruption:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw>
<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrzzUESV4AA_LJf.jpg>
<https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrxOBKBXcAAbyCx.jpg>
<https://www.lauraloomer.us/blog/exclusive-provisional-ballot-boxes-left-inside-avis-rental-car-at-fort-lauderdale-airport>
<http://bit.ly/2RMOozP>
On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
Whenever possible. Voted early this year and it was 45 minutes from
entering the line (just outside the door) to exiting the building.
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
>Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>
>This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
harm that can be done.
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 11:18:53 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/8/2018 6:49 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/8/18 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>>>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>>>
>>>> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the
>>>> 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made
>>>> before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is
>>>> what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to
>>>> return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>>>>
>>>> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed"
>>>> electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
>>>
>>> With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
>>> Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
>>> harm that can be done.
>>>
>>
>> However, these are the times when some actual progress can be made.
>>
>> They all want to look good two years from now, and by passing some
>> non-partisan stuff like infrastructure bills, the ones "in the middle"
>> can look good to their constituents come reelection time.
>>
>> They know the only way to get anything passed is for it to be what both
>> sides want and what the POTUS will sign.
>>
>>
>That seems to have gone by the wayside in recent years. Seems both
>sides are getting extreme and digging in hard rather than consider
>compromise for the good of the people.
That's the way polarization works. There is no compromising with he
who will not compromise. The best case is slowing the inevitable. Not
a good strategy.
On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:05:30 -0500, Casper wrote:
>>We should have "none of the above" as a choice. If "none of the above"
>>gets a plurality of the votes, the candidates on the ballot are
>>disqualified and we have another election with a new slate of
>>candidates.
>
> Been saying this for years. All I ever hear is 'write someone in'. I
> don't believe that sends the same message. So I write in 'none of the
> above'. I want to vote, not take a multiple choice test.
>
> If you don't like any of the above scoundrels, then maybe it's time to
> change the method. Because 'it's the way it's always been done' doesn't
> mean it's the most effective way anymore.
As in any first past the post system, the incumbents have everything to
gain from preventing change in a zero-sum game: all they need to do is
create artificial splits in the opposition, or find a polarising issue,
and they win. Strategies such as NOTA, or proportional voting, change the
rules so that platforms need some degree of substance, not just emotion-
based blather. The sum of the game is fluid, and not nearly so easy to
control.
On 11/7/2018 12:08 PM, Leon wrote:
> At least Trump is delivering on his promises. And he would not look half
> bad if the biased media would quit taking his comments out of context.
> Fortunately the mature population that votes saw through the media.
+1
Unfortunately, the "mature population that votes" must exceed the morons
that vote, plus the dead, illegals, non-voters and non-existent etc,etc.
The trick the anti-American Dims face is to not let their moron voters
plus fake votes, exceed the number of registered voters. This is why
they pay people each time they register to vote. They really don't care
if they vote or not, they will vote for them. Mail in ballots are also
a major source of Dimwit voter fraud.
--
Jack
If Democrats don't want foreigners involved in our elections,
why do they think it's all right for illegals to vote?
http://jbstein.com
On 11/7/2018 6:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 6:19:47 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:45:46 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hundreds of thousands of people=
>>> died on both sides in that revolution.
>>
>> https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/american-revolution-faqs
>>
>> Read a bit of history, you will see your estimates of causality count
>> are a bit off.
>
> Wow. I never realized the Revolutionary war was such a little pecker of a war. To put it real bluntly. Just 80 years later we had progressed so much that we were killing off the total number killed in the Revolutionary war in just one battle. That's good progress.
>
> I guess comparing voting to a mere 25,000 dead people is not much. Today we happily kill off more than that with opium pills or needles. And suicide and maybe even car crashes. Maybe car crashes don't kill off that many.
>
Car crashes kill off over 40,000 a year. A number that could be cut
drastically simply by requiring a NASCAR approved crash helmet worn by
everyone in a vehicle. A cheap roll cage in every car would almost
eliminate deaths. Instead, we worry about someone whacking off a thumb
with a table saw, and prefer not to mess up our hair with those pesky
helmets. How many lives would be saved with Saw Stop in every shop....
NONE!
--
Jack
If Democrats don't want foreigners involved in our elections,
why do they think it's all right for illegals to vote?
http://jbstein.com
On 11/8/18 5:27 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 03:27:22 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Deb"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
>>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>>
>> Its amazing how many folks voted against their best interest on the 6th. The vote was based on two things, promises, that have been made before and not kept and an aversion to Trump. What was forgotten is what has produced the economy we have today. Instead they opted to return to the policies that led to eight years of almost no growth.
>>
>> This country was founded on the premises of an "informed" electorate. It would be nice if we had one.
>
> With Democrats controlling the House and Republicans controlling the
> Senate, very little legislation will be enacted, thus minimizing the
> harm that can be done.
>
However, these are the times when some actual progress can be made.
They all want to look good two years from now, and by passing some
non-partisan stuff like infrastructure bills, the ones "in the middle"
can look good to their constituents come reelection time.
They know the only way to get anything passed is for it to be what both
sides want and what the POTUS will sign.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 11/8/2018 7:58 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> I don't recall any one being as bull headed as Acosta. Off topic is OK
>> but he made an ass of himself and refused to give up the mic on several
>> attempts so that others could speak. And he kept digging like he had a
>> hearing problem or a short attention span. He was looking for a fight
>> and he got his ass in a jam.
>
> You do know that I'm agreeing with you about his behavior, don't you? My only
> point was that you included the words "totally off topic" in your comments
> about him as if that was something else that he did wrong. His being "off-
> topic" had nothing to do with him being an a-hole. Many others asked questions
> that were "totally off topic" so that shouldn't be included as if it was part
> of the (his) problem.
Dunno what Leon meant, but by "off topic" I'd say the "topic" of a Press
Conference is the "Press" asking the Prez questions. It is NOT about so
called "Newsmen" expressing their opinion. Trump was right on calling
the dick out, but he should have added to get a press pass, you must be
a member of the press, not the propaganda arm of the Dims, spewing forth
their Dimwitted opinions. If it were me, and yins are all lucky it's
not, I would make it known any person from the press expressing their
opinion would have their press card revoked permanently. Send newsmen to
ask questions, not commentators to spew their lame personal opinions on
the world.
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com
On 11/9/2018 4:54 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/9/2018 6:52 AM, Jack wrote:
>> Dunno what Leon meant, but by "off topic" I'd say the "topic" of a
>> Press Conference is the "Press" asking the Prez questions. It is NOT
>> about so called "Newsmen" expressing their opinion. Trump was right
>> on calling the dick out, but he should have added to get a press pass,
>> you must be a member of the press, not the propaganda arm of the Dims,
>> spewing forth their Dimwitted opinions. If it were me, and yins are
>> all lucky it's not, I would make it known any person from the press
>> expressing their opinion would have their press card revoked
>> permanently. Send newsmen to ask questions, not commentators to spew
>> their lame personal opinions on the world.
>
> Also should explain that the one in control is the one calling
> the conference, not the rank and file press members.
Trump pretty much did exactly that when he told the dweeb that refused
to give up the mic, "I'm President and your not"
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com
On 11/8/2018 6:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I'm not defending Acosta's *behavior* in any manner, but reporters from all
> sides - friend and foe - were asking questions unrelated to the election.
> His tax-returns, the Russian probe, immigration, etc.
>
> Yes, the opening remarks were about the election, but the questions ranged
> far and wide from many other reporters, not just those trying to trip
> Trump up. Trump had no issue with answering non-election related questions,
> nor should he have.
>
>> He was rude and disrespectful to every one in the room
>> especially other reporters that wanted to ask questions.
>>
>
> Acosta was absolutely being an a-hole, but it wasn't because of the subject
> matter of his questions, it was his method.
>
So what makes him different than most every other reporter?
Seems most reporters just want to be on camera asking questions no
matter how many times a person says "no comment" and just ignores them.
Politicians, criminals, celebrities, makes no difference the reporter
wants to be the star. They ask the same question in three different
formats while they smile at the camera and inflate their ego.
On 11/6/2018 7:19 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 11:31:38 -0600, Markem wrote:
>
>> At least that is how Thomas Jefferson saw our election system. So I
>> hope you all took time to vote, thank you if you did.
>
> It's pointless, the choice is to keep the current scoundrel or replace
> it with a different scoundrel. If there was an option "shoot all
> candidates for this office" I suspect that we would have much better
> voter turnout.
We should have "none of the above" as a choice. If "none of
the above" gets a plurality of the votes, the candidates on
the ballot are disqualified and we have another election with
a new slate of candidates.