I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
goes.
I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
unadulterated crap.
Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
now...
On Aug 11, 11:47=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
> goes.
>
> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> unadulterated crap.
> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
> now...
I had NO idea what there is to learn about antennas.
On 8/14/2011 8:15 AM, Leon wrote:
> I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is the most ill
> though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
LOL ... ain't that the truth. They actually make comcast look like
geniuses with that device. I've gotten used to it now, but it took a
year to resist chunking it across the street.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
In article <[email protected]>,
k-nuttle <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/12/2011 1:43 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Aug 12, 11:16 am, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2011 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>>>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>>>>> unadulterated crap.
>>>>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> now...
>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>> And your question is?
>>>
>>>>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>>
>>>>> Lew
>>>
>>>> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
>>>
>>> Limited, but favorable. I have an antenna and WinTV USB adapter for my
>>> laptop which I use to watch TV on the balcony the rare times I'm
>>> interested in a sporting event.
>>>
>>> The picture here in Houston, from numerous stations, is astounding
>>> compared to cable ... not surprising since, IIRC, OTA is not compressed
>>> (or not as much), as over cable or sat.
>>>
>>> And it is farking free! ....
>>>
>>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>>> Last update: 4/15/2010
>>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>>
>> Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
>> french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
>> of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
>> going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
>> But I ain't paying for shit.
>> From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PBS
>> and wide-open digitalus maximus.
>> Besides, I want to be able to watch the Revolution (which will be
>> televised with apologies to Gil Scott-Heron) without fear of some anal
>> retentive bureaucrat cutting my cable. (Not so far fetched considering
>> that they're trying to cut off BlackBerries in the UK during the
>> riots.)
>
>
>It is my understanding (I have not researched it) that there is a move
>in Washington to eliminate broadcast TV, so to have TV you would have to
>buy Cable
There is some active scaremongering by the National Association of
Broadcasters to that effect. There have been ads running on local (Chicago)
over-the-air TV. *ZERO* information about what *is* under consideration,
just that one might lose over-the-air TV. Presumably it's to take that
spectrum and use it for 'something else'.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>> I can't easily get OTA here, but most of what we watch in only on the
>> cable/sat channels. History Channel, Nat Geo, Smithsonian, Discovery,
>> Travel, HD Net.
>>
>> I DVR what we want to see and eliminate the commercials. Expensive, but
>> little choice here.
>
> Do you eliminate or skip over? I would like to learn how to eliminate the
> mershals.
I think the old TIVO was able to eliminate them. I just FF over them. My
cable company sucked so I went to DirecTv about a year ago. It has worked
very well and has a good channel selection. I also have the 'whole house"
setup so I can record anywhere (we have two DVR) and watch anywhere.
The price differences are minimal, but when my cable company upgraded they
were still years behind the latest technology and did not offer some of my
favorite channels in HD. I was skeptical about going to satellite, but it
has proven to be at least as reliable with better offerings. If all you
watch is the 6 o'clock news, OTA on an old B&W tv is just fine. If you like
Planet Earth and series like that, a big ass flat screen and and HD DVR add
much to the enjoyment.
Mighty Ships started again last week. I found it interesting to see one of
our subs highlighted. That sucker is huge!
Some series get boring and soap opera-ish, but at least catch one or two
episodes of Ice Road Truckers, Swamp People and the like. It gives you an
idea of what goes on in our world that we usually never see and don't even
know exists.
"Robatoy" wrote:
> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> unadulterated crap.
> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> money
> now...
-------------------------------
And your question is?
BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
Lew
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:a1cfa504-4c6b-4c67-b5ae-22094eb0a6fd@w18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>> > There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>> > unadulterated crap.
>> > Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>> > money
>> > now...
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> And your question is?
>>
>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>
>> Lew
>
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
Go to RemoteCentral.com and check out the HDTV forum, you will find
discussion there about OTA TV and reception along the US/Ontario, Canada
border.
www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-sat/list.cgi
On 2011-08-12 10:31:49 -0400, dpb <[email protected]> said:
> Very little...when they forced the changeover from analog to digital in
> fringe areas, the signal went from snowy to the typical on/off of
> digital and we went from the three networks plus PBS and one local to
> the two networks most of the time and the third hit 'n miss and no PBS
> or local. That's with an external amplifier on the signal prior to the
> input to the digital converter; w/o it there's nothing at all.
This tool may provide some useful information: http://www.tvfool.com/
"Robert Bonomi" wrote:
> There is some active scaremongering by the National Association of
> Broadcasters to that effect. There have been ads running on local
> (Chicago)
> over-the-air TV. *ZERO* information about what *is* under
> consideration,
> just that one might lose over-the-air TV. Presumably it's to take
> that
> spectrum and use it for 'something else'.
------------------------------------------
Same pitch here in SoCal.
Lew
On 8/14/2011 9:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 8/14/2011 8:15 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is the most ill
>> though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
>
> LOL ... ain't that the truth. They actually make comcast look like
> geniuses with that device. I've gotten used to it now, but it took a
> year to resist chunking it across the street.
>
I like the way that only 3 or 4 of the buttons light up. The ones that
do light up make it even harder to see the ones you are actually hunting
for.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
> french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
> of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
> going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
> But I ain't paying for shit.
> From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PBS
> and wide-open digitalus maximus.
I can't easily get OTA here, but most of what we watch in only on the
cable/sat channels. History Channel, Nat Geo, Smithsonian, Discovery,
Travel, HD Net.
I DVR what we want to see and eliminate the commercials. Expensive, but
little choice here.
In article <[email protected]>,
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
> > There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> > unadulterated crap.
> > Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> > money
> > now...
> -------------------------------
> And your question is?
> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
???
So is this a tower or is it a mast?
A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
--
Stuart Winsor
In article
<[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> (Not so far fetched considering that they're trying to cut off
> BlackBerries in the UK during the riots.)
Not that I have heard (Living in the UK). Blackberry's encryption has been
mentioned but there are no moves to cut them off, as there were in Iran.
--
Stuart Winsor
In article
<[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > So is this a tower or is it a mast?
> >
> > A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
> > structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
> >
> > --
> > Stuart Winsor
> It is a self standing tower. A 4-foot section of mast is on top driven
> by a rotor. The footprint is triangular.
Ta. Stay wires would be redundant then unless you are worried about
/very/ severe winds.
--
Stuart Winsor
In article <[email protected]>,
Dale Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
> > structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
> >
> That depends...some towers are not ment to be true free standing.
> Most expensive towers can be true free standing.
I am a retired transmitter engineer, having spent most of my working life
in broadcast, and the definition I gave is the correct one.
Any structure requiring stay wires is a mast whether it is a pole a few
inches in diameter or a TV mast 1000ft high with a much larger cross
section, including such as the mast at Waltham-in-the Wolds, which is an
enclosed steel cylinder having a lift up its inside capable of carrying
four men at a time.
As you say, towers are expensive so tend to be used only up to a couple of
hundred feet. The notable exception in the UK, is the concrete tower at
Emley Moor - which replaced a previous mast, like the one at Waltham,
which fell down.
--
Stuart Winsor
In article <[email protected]>,
Dale Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> Then explain these guyed towers.
> http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-45g-tower
> IMO if it is triangular or square it is not a mast but a tower, if round
> than it is a mast.
Sorry but masts can be any cross sectional shape, though triangular is
very common due to maximum strength for minimum material. The only
governing principal is whether it is self supporting or not.
http://www.alandick.com/broadcast_towers_masts.htm
It is a pity there are no illustrations but the text is clear enough,
referring to "Self supporting /towers/" and "Guyed lattice /masts/" You
may like to note that if you follow the link to masts you will find
reference to masts of triangular section.
However,
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=229&pageid=203
Has some interesting photographs and notes regarding the triangular
section /mast/ at Sutton Coldfield. Note especially the BBC Engineering
department letter at the bottom of the webpage referring to /mast/
There are details of lots of other Tx stations here too, including a very
iced-up Holme Moss and the collapsed mast and new concrete tower at Emley
Moor.tower
Again, note the references to /mast/ here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_Coldfield_transmitting_station
I think we are falling into the same terminology problem where, for
example, you americans, rather illogically, call a machine for planing a
piece of wood flat (a planer) a jointer and a device for machining a piece
of wood to thickness (a thicknesser) a planer
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_masts_and_towers
and read the section "Mast or tower", Americans are out of step with both
UK Broadcast engineers and civil engineers.
--
Stuart Winsor
On 08/14/2011 07:07 PM, Stuart wrote:
> I think we are falling into the same terminology problem where, for
> example, you americans, rather illogically, call a machine for planing a
> piece of wood flat (a planer) a jointer and a device for machining a piece
> of wood to thickness (a thicknesser) a planer
>
> See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_masts_and_towers
>
> and read the section "Mast or tower", Americans are out of step with both
> UK Broadcast engineers and civil engineers.
>
Yes there in lies the problem...here in the USA we call the "pipe"
portion of an antenna system a "Mast" and anything of lattice
construction whether guyed or free-standing a tower.
If I had of seen your email was in the UK I probably wouldn't have
responded at all.
--
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Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Tennessee
Ham Operator since 1997
Member of YahooPipesmokers and ASP since February 2005
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
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On Aug 12, 11:16=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8/12/2011 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> "Robatoy" wrote:
> >>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> >>> unadulterated crap.
> >>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> >>> money
> >>> now...
>
> >> -------------------------------
> >> And your question is?
>
> >> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>
> >> Lew
>
> > The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
>
> Limited, but favorable. I have an antenna and WinTV USB adapter for my
> laptop which I use to watch TV on the balcony the rare times I'm
> interested in a sporting event.
>
> The picture here in Houston, from numerous stations, is astounding
> compared to cable ... not surprising since, IIRC, OTA is not compressed
> (or not as much), as over cable or sat.
>
> And it is farking free! =A0....
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 4/15/2010
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
But I ain't paying for shit.
From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PBS
and wide-open digitalus maximus.
Besides, I want to be able to watch the Revolution (which will be
televised with apologies to Gil Scott-Heron) without fear of some anal
retentive bureaucrat cutting my cable. (Not so far fetched considering
that they're trying to cut off BlackBerries in the UK during the
riots.)
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:43:58 -0400, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/11/11 11:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
>> goes.
>>
>> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
>> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
>> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
>> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
>> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
>> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>> unadulterated crap.
>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
>> now...
>
>Just putting the antenna in a banana tree would have been cheaper :-)
The trees are no longer that tall. (He smokes too many of the leaves.)
--
Fear not those who argue but those who dodge.
-- Marie Ebner von Eschenbach
On Aug 11, 11:47=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
> goes.
>
> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks.
We went free digital TV last year - I put up a little (2-3 foot long)
$40 antenna and pointed it to the channels (see Antennaweb.org for the
application to find your local channels) and it worked pretty well.
But, maybe because I have a six-way splitter behind a two-way
splitter, I tried a Radio Shack in-line amplifier and everything
improved significantly.
I bought a larger antenna for my vacation home as it is much further
from the stations. Have yet to install it as I, too, am searching
GOVDEALS.COM for a tower - but, so far, they have been going for
hundreds of dollars there. At one point, I received analog Free TV
there with a "Standard" roof antenna I'd recovered from the trash.
But, when I tried it with the new digital, not so good!
I am told that you can "gang" antennas with 300 ohm wire, pointing
each toward a different cluster of broadcasting stations and improve
the number of channels received w/o a rotor.
There;s a Cable Customer group on Yahoo: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/gr=
oup/CABLECUSTOMER
Frankly, I think we were hosed with the advent of Cable. We had free
over the air TV all my life in exchange for watching the
advertisements. Now, we pay for the privilege of watching the same
old same old and there are more commercials per hour than ever before.
The "News" has been replaced with Opinion "Journalism" which seeks and
commands great ratings and advertisers while spewing conflict.
On Aug 14, 11:06=A0am, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 8/14/11 10:27 AM, Leon wrote:
>
> > On 8/14/2011 9:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
> >> On 8/14/2011 8:15 AM, Leon wrote:
>
> >>> I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is the most il=
l
> >>> though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
>
> >> LOL ... ain't that the truth. They actually make comcast look like
> >> geniuses with that device. I've gotten used to it now, but it took a
> >> year to resist chunking it across the street.
>
> > I like the way that only 3 or 4 of the buttons light up. The ones that
> > do light up make it even harder to see the ones you are actually huntin=
g
> > for.
>
> Can you get a Logitech Harmony remote and use that?
> I love mine (wore out the first one, lasted about tn years) depending on
> the model they can replace a stack of remotes, and control many devices
> all from one. =A0You set up activities, like watch TV, in my case it turn=
s
> on the TV, sets it to HDMI1, turns on the amp, sets it to VIDEO1, turns
> on the satellite box. =A0All with one button, from then on, the volume
> controls the amp, channel selection controls the sat box, etc.....even
> my wife can use it. =A0:-)
>
> --
> Froz...
>
> The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
I have one of those. Best thing ever. Plugged into my USB port of my
puter, went to their website, selected all the components I use and
presto... all done. Nothing to talk about. Ticketypoo, Bob's your
uncle.
On 08/17/2011 09:12 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 11, 11:47 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
>> goes.
>>
>> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
>> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
>> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
>> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
>> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
>> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>> unadulterated crap.
>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
>> now...
>
> I had NO idea what there is to learn about antennas.
Check out this forum Robatoy.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/
--
All the Best & 73's
Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Tennessee
Ham Operator since 1997
Member of YahooPipesmokers and ASP since February 2005
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Ubuntu User #26423
[email protected]
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(cut the spam to reply)
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On 08/14/2011 09:36 AM, Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Dale Miller<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
>>> structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
>>>
>
>> That depends...some towers are not ment to be true free standing.
>> Most expensive towers can be true free standing.
>
> I am a retired transmitter engineer, having spent most of my working life
> in broadcast, and the definition I gave is the correct one.
>
> Any structure requiring stay wires is a mast whether it is a pole a few
> inches in diameter or a TV mast 1000ft high with a much larger cross
> section, including such as the mast at Waltham-in-the Wolds, which is an
> enclosed steel cylinder having a lift up its inside capable of carrying
> four men at a time.
>
> As you say, towers are expensive so tend to be used only up to a couple of
> hundred feet. The notable exception in the UK, is the concrete tower at
> Emley Moor - which replaced a previous mast, like the one at Waltham,
> which fell down.
>
Then explain these guyed towers.
http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-45g-tower
IMO if it is triangular or square it is not a mast but a tower, if round
than it is a mast.
--
All the Best & 73's
Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Tennessee
Ham Operator since 1997
Member of YahooPipesmokers and ASP since February 2005
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Ubuntu User #26423
[email protected]
[email protected]
(cut the spam to reply)
VOTE TO REBUILD!
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--
On 08/12/2011 02:52 AM, Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Lew Hodgett<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>> unadulterated crap.
>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>> money
>>> now...
>> -------------------------------
>> And your question is?
>
>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>
> ???
>
> So is this a tower or is it a mast?
>
> A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
> structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
>
That depends...some towers are not ment to be true free standing.
Most expensive towers can be true free standing.
--
All the Best & 73's
Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Tennessee
Ham Operator since 1997
Member of YahooPipesmokers and ASP since February 2005
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Ubuntu User #26423
[email protected]
[email protected]
(cut the spam to reply)
VOTE TO REBUILD!
www.twintowersalliance.com
--
On 8/12/2011 9:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>> unadulterated crap.
>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>> money
>>> now...
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> And your question is?
>>
>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>
>> Lew
>
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
I have experienced random reception with some of the OTA TV stations in
my viewing area. I have a disk type antenna mounted about 5 feet above
the roof. Receive three stations all the time, out of 12 to 20 found
after channel search: others drop out randomly while viewing.
On 8/13/2011 11:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>>> I can't easily get OTA here, but most of what we watch in only on the
>>> cable/sat channels. History Channel, Nat Geo, Smithsonian, Discovery,
>>> Travel, HD Net.
>>>
>>> I DVR what we want to see and eliminate the commercials. Expensive, but
>>> little choice here.
>>
>> Do you eliminate or skip over? I would like to learn how to eliminate
>> the mershals.
>
> I think the old TIVO was able to eliminate them. I just FF over them. My
> cable company sucked so I went to DirecTv about a year ago. It has
> worked very well and has a good channel selection. I also have the
> 'whole house" setup so I can record anywhere (we have two DVR) and watch
> anywhere.
>
> The price differences are minimal, but when my cable company upgraded
> they were still years behind the latest technology and did not offer
> some of my favorite channels in HD. I was skeptical about going to
> satellite, but it has proven to be at least as reliable with better
> offerings. If all you watch is the 6 o'clock news, OTA on an old B&W tv
> is just fine. If you like Planet Earth and series like that, a big ass
> flat screen and and HD DVR add much to the enjoyment.
>
> Mighty Ships started again last week. I found it interesting to see one
> of our subs highlighted. That sucker is huge!
>
> Some series get boring and soap opera-ish, but at least catch one or two
> episodes of Ice Road Truckers, Swamp People and the like. It gives you
> an idea of what goes on in our world that we usually never see and don't
> even know exists.
I got into satellite TV when DirecTV still only offer movie channels so
I went with Dish Network, ordered the kit and put it all up myself
including one for my dad and BIL.
6 or 7 years later DirecTV was offering the same basic chanels but also
offered their DVR that was Tivo based. I switched and that was a great
unit. Then when DirecTV came out with their own non Tivo HD DVR it all
turned to crap for about 2 years. When we moved to our new home we went
with Uverse. I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is
the most ill though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
On 8/12/11 9:39 AM, in article
a1cfa504-4c6b-4c67-b5ae-22094eb0a6fd@w18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, "Robatoy"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>> unadulterated crap.
>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>> money
>>> now...
>
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
Reception is good but content is the usual US network junk. With most of the
programming being reality TV, or pseudo news talk shows or sports, there is
very little other that we find to watch. Public TV and the Canadian stations
that we get are the only stations that carry anything worth watching.
I am a bit closer to Detroit than Robatoy (25 miles north) and use a
externally mounted antenna on the a one-story part of my house.
On 8/14/11 11:30 PM, in article
63bac5b0-4c9b-41ba-917f-e6bb57507a41@v42g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
"Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The "News" has been replaced with Opinion "Journalism" which seeks and
> commands great ratings and advertisers while spewing conflict.
>
That's pretty accurate, but you left out the part where the "news" is a
shill for the new network TV program.
Robatoy wrote:
> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
> goes.
>
> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> unadulterated crap.
> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
> now...
Plus during a storm you can get some free electricity, for a short time!
--
Gerald Ross
Don't start comparing yourself to me.
It'll just make you crazy.
On 8/11/2011 10:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
> goes.
>
> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> unadulterated crap.
> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
> now...
And if you ever get lost you only need to look for the tower! Can you
fly a flag from that thing?
You'll be the talk of the neighborhood, Cool find!
On 8/12/2011 12:52 AM, Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
>
>
> A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
> structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
>
Nope.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 8/13/2011 11:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote
>>>> I can't easily get OTA here, but most of what we watch in only on
>>>> the cable/sat channels. History Channel, Nat Geo, Smithsonian,
>>>> Discovery, Travel, HD Net.
>>>>
>>>> I DVR what we want to see and eliminate the commercials. Expensive,
>>>> but little choice here.
>>>
>>> Do you eliminate or skip over? I would like to learn how to
>>> eliminate the mershals.
>>
>> I think the old TIVO was able to eliminate them. I just FF over them.
>> My cable company sucked so I went to DirecTv about a year ago. It has
>> worked very well and has a good channel selection. I also have the
>> 'whole house" setup so I can record anywhere (we have two DVR) and
>> watch anywhere.
>>
>> The price differences are minimal, but when my cable company upgraded
>> they were still years behind the latest technology and did not offer
>> some of my favorite channels in HD. I was skeptical about going to
>> satellite, but it has proven to be at least as reliable with better
>> offerings. If all you watch is the 6 o'clock news, OTA on an old B&W
>> tv is just fine. If you like Planet Earth and series like that, a big
>> ass flat screen and and HD DVR add much to the enjoyment.
>>
>> Mighty Ships started again last week. I found it interesting to see
>> one of our subs highlighted. That sucker is huge!
>>
>> Some series get boring and soap opera-ish, but at least catch one or
>> two episodes of Ice Road Truckers, Swamp People and the like. It
>> gives you an idea of what goes on in our world that we usually never
>> see and don't even know exists.
>
> I got into satellite TV when DirecTV still only offer movie channels
> so I went with Dish Network, ordered the kit and put it all up myself
> including one for my dad and BIL.
>
> 6 or 7 years later DirecTV was offering the same basic chanels but
> also offered their DVR that was Tivo based. I switched and that was a
> great unit. Then when DirecTV came out with their own non Tivo HD DVR
> it all turned to crap for about 2 years. When we moved to our new
> home we went with Uverse. I am happier with Uverrse however their
> remote control is the most ill though out controller I have ever laid
> my hands on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Leon,
It is nice to hear someone else who thinks the Uverse remote is crap. I
have had it about 2 months and I still hit the wrong button at the wrong
time. I am considering getting one of those fancy Logitech remotes that
runs everything.
Steve
On Aug 12, 12:31=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
> > There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> > unadulterated crap.
> > Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> > money
> > now...
>
> -------------------------------
> And your question is?
>
> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>
> Lew
The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
On Aug 14, 2:25=A0pm, [email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> k-nuttle =A0<[email protected]> wrote:
> >On 8/12/2011 1:43 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> >> On Aug 12, 11:16 am, Swingman<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >>> On 8/12/2011 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> >>>> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> =A0 =A0wr=
ote:
> >>>>> "Robatoy" wrote:
> >>>>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> >>>>>> unadulterated crap.
> >>>>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> >>>>>> money
> >>>>>> now...
>
> >>>>> -------------------------------
> >>>>> And your question is?
>
> >>>>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>
> >>>>> Lew
>
> >>>> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
>
> >>> Limited, but favorable. I have an antenna and WinTV USB adapter for m=
y
> >>> laptop which I use to watch TV on the balcony the rare times I'm
> >>> interested in a sporting event.
>
> >>> The picture here in Houston, from numerous stations, is astounding
> >>> compared to cable ... not surprising since, IIRC, OTA is not compress=
ed
> >>> (or not as much), as over cable or sat.
>
> >>> And it is farking free! =A0....
>
> >>> --www.e-woodshop.net
> >>> Last update: 4/15/2010
> >>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> >> Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
> >> french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
> >> of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
> >> going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
> >> But I ain't paying for shit.
> >> =A0From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PB=
S
> >> and wide-open digitalus maximus.
> >> Besides, I want to be able to watch the Revolution (which will be
> >> televised with apologies to Gil Scott-Heron) without fear of some anal
> >> retentive bureaucrat cutting my cable. (Not so far fetched considering
> >> that they're trying to cut off BlackBerries in the UK during the
> >> riots.)
>
> >It is my understanding (I have not researched it) that there is a move
> >in Washington to eliminate broadcast TV, so to have TV you would have to
> >buy Cable
>
> There is some active scaremongering by the National Association of
> Broadcasters to that effect. =A0There have been ads running on local (Chi=
cago)
> over-the-air TV. =A0*ZERO* information about what *is* under consideratio=
n,
> just that one might lose over-the-air TV. =A0Presumably it's to take that
> spectrum and use it for 'something else'.
I guess the cable companies are making some serious campaign
contributions, wot?
On Aug 12, 3:52=A0am, Stuart <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> =A0 =A0Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Robatoy" wrote:
> > > There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> > > unadulterated crap.
> > > Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> > > money
> > > now...
> > -------------------------------
> > And your question is?
> > BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>
> ???
>
> So is this a tower or is it a mast?
>
> A tower is free-standing like the Eifel or Blackpool, a mast is a slim
> structure supported by guys (stay wires if you prefer) like on a ship.
>
> --
> Stuart Winsor
It is a self standing tower. A 4-foot section of mast is on top driven
by a rotor.
The footprint is triangular.
In article <[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Aug 14, 2:25 pm, [email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>
>> >It is my understanding (I have not researched it) that there is a move
>> >in Washington to eliminate broadcast TV, so to have TV you would have to
>> >buy Cable
>>
>> There is some active scaremongering by the National Association of
>> Broadcasters to that effect. There have been ads running on local (Chicago)
>> over-the-air TV. *ZERO* information about what *is* under consideration,
>> just that one might lose over-the-air TV. Presumably it's to take that
>> spectrum and use it for 'something else'.
>
>I guess the cable companies are making some serious campaign
>contributions, wot?
My *guess* would be that it's the cell-phone companies, and the other folks
(like "Clear') selling 'wireless' (*not* "wi-fi", but stuff with 'multi-mile'
range) Internet access, that have their eye on that spectrum.
I don't see the cable companies spending the money -- 'Internet TV' is
already costing them lots of customers, and it's more than likely that
_that_ is where most over-the-air customers would go.
On Aug 12, 10:33=A0am, "EXT" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:a1cfa504-4c6b-4c67-b5ae-22094eb0a6fd@w18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Robatoy" wrote:
> >> > There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> >> > unadulterated crap.
> >> > Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
> >> > money
> >> > now...
>
> >> -------------------------------
> >> And your question is?
>
> >> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>
> >> Lew
>
> > The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
>
> Go to RemoteCentral.com and check out the HDTV forum, you will find
> discussion there about OTA TV and reception along the US/Ontario, Canada
> border.
>
> www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-sat/list.cgi
Excellent. That's the kinda stuff I hoping to find. Thanks.
On 08/12/2011 08:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>> unadulterated crap.
>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>> money
>>> now...
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> And your question is?
>>
>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>
>> Lew
>
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
Yes...we turned off Direct and went to OTA and netflix.
I also put together a computer to be a DVR with MythTV and a Silicondust
HDhomerun. http://www.silicondust.com/
We also use Hulu and Boxee as other forms of getting programs.
Our set-up works quite well and Netflix isn't too bad.
We get about 30 channels and if I could get my antenna up about another
10 feet or so I think we could do even better. It sits at about 32 feet
right now.
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On 08/12/2011 10:16 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
> Limited, but favorable. I have an antenna and WinTV USB adapter for my
> laptop which I use to watch TV on the balcony the rare times I'm
> interested in a sporting event.
>
> The picture here in Houston, from numerous stations, is astounding
> compared to cable ... not surprising since, IIRC, OTA is not compressed
> (or not as much), as over cable or sat.
>
> And it is farking free! ....
>
OTA TV is a Mpeg2 stream so yes it isn't compressed.
With the digital stream you can just save the stream to a harddrive.
With the old analog you need to decode the the incoming signal which
takes quite alot of processing power.
--
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Tennessee
Ham Operator since 1997
Member of YahooPipesmokers and ASP since February 2005
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Ubuntu User #26423
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On 8/12/2011 11:19 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
>> french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
>> of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
>> going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
>> But I ain't paying for shit.
>> From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PBS
>> and wide-open digitalus maximus.
>
> I can't easily get OTA here, but most of what we watch in only on the
> cable/sat channels. History Channel, Nat Geo, Smithsonian, Discovery,
> Travel, HD Net.
>
> I DVR what we want to see and eliminate the commercials. Expensive, but
> little choice here.
Do you eliminate or skip over? I would like to learn how to eliminate
the mershals.
On 08/12/2011 12:43 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
> french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
> of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
> going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
> But I ain't paying for shit.
> From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PBS
> and wide-open digitalus maximus.
> Besides, I want to be able to watch the Revolution (which will be
> televised with apologies to Gil Scott-Heron) without fear of some anal
> retentive bureaucrat cutting my cable. (Not so far fetched considering
> that they're trying to cut off BlackBerries in the UK during the
> riots.)
We get CBS, NBC, Fox, some movie channels, 2 different PBS networks, one
out of Cookeville and one out of Nashville. We also have some religious
channels. All together about 30 channels.
--
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Dale Miller, KC2CBD
Tennessee
Ham Operator since 1997
Member of YahooPipesmokers and ASP since February 2005
Registered Linux User: #317401
Linux since June 2003
Ubuntu User #26423
[email protected]
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On 8/12/2011 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>> unadulterated crap.
>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>> money
>>> now...
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> And your question is?
>>
>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>
>> Lew
>
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
Limited, but favorable. I have an antenna and WinTV USB adapter for my
laptop which I use to watch TV on the balcony the rare times I'm
interested in a sporting event.
The picture here in Houston, from numerous stations, is astounding
compared to cable ... not surprising since, IIRC, OTA is not compressed
(or not as much), as over cable or sat.
And it is farking free! ....
--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 8/11/11 11:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
> goes.
>
> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> unadulterated crap.
> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
> now...
Just putting the antenna in a banana tree would have been cheaper :-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 8/11/2011 11:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
> goes.
>
> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
> unadulterated crap.
> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
> now...
I have been enjoying broadcast TV since the change to digital and I
don't have a tower. I get about 2 dozen channels, all national
networks, PBS, and an all movie channels, and a channel the transmit
about half movies and old sitcoms.
On 8/12/2011 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
...
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
Very little...when they forced the changeover from analog to digital in
fringe areas, the signal went from snowy to the typical on/off of
digital and we went from the three networks plus PBS and one local to
the two networks most of the time and the third hit 'n miss and no PBS
or local. That's with an external amplifier on the signal prior to the
input to the digital converter; w/o it there's nothing at all.
I've intended to add another 6-10 ft to the tower but haven't got a
round tuit handy enough to have done so, yet.
All in all, as is typical, a setback for rural areas...but then again,
we don't count; all we do is supply the basic food items, what possible
use are we so why bother about them? (Seems attitude of DC and State
governments, anyway, afaict. :( )
--
On 8/12/11 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>> unadulterated crap.
>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>> money
>>> now...
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> And your question is?
>>
>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>
>> Lew
>
> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
BWAaaaa haha hahahaha hahaha!!!
You didn't expect answers to your actual question, did you?
If you wanted to know if anyone was having any luck with OTA TV, you
should've asked about how to build a TV antenna tower out of wood, then
you would've have gotten all kinds of answers to your "real" question. :-)
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On 8/12/2011 1:43 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Aug 12, 11:16 am, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 8/12/2011 8:39 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 12, 12:31 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>>>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>>>>> unadulterated crap.
>>>>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger
>>>>> money
>>>>> now...
>>
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>> And your question is?
>>
>>>> BTW, run lots of stays to keep that tower in pure compression.
>>
>>>> Lew
>>
>>> The question is: Anybody having any luck with OTA TV?
>>
>> Limited, but favorable. I have an antenna and WinTV USB adapter for my
>> laptop which I use to watch TV on the balcony the rare times I'm
>> interested in a sporting event.
>>
>> The picture here in Houston, from numerous stations, is astounding
>> compared to cable ... not surprising since, IIRC, OTA is not compressed
>> (or not as much), as over cable or sat.
>>
>> And it is farking free! ....
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 4/15/2010
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> Say it again, and LOUD, brother...FARKING FREE my friends. (Pardon my
> french, and yes, I do speak it a little:) I am sick and fucking tired
> of paying through the nose for 150+ channels of pure shit. If I am
> going to watch shit, I want to watch it for free. Free shit rules OK!
> But I ain't paying for shit.
> From this distance I will be getting 36 channels, 3 of which are PBS
> and wide-open digitalus maximus.
> Besides, I want to be able to watch the Revolution (which will be
> televised with apologies to Gil Scott-Heron) without fear of some anal
> retentive bureaucrat cutting my cable. (Not so far fetched considering
> that they're trying to cut off BlackBerries in the UK during the
> riots.)
It is my understanding (I have not researched it) that there is a move
in Washington to eliminate broadcast TV, so to have TV you would have to
buy Cable
On 8/12/2011 8:25 PM, Steve wrote:
> On 2011-08-12 10:31:49 -0400, dpb <[email protected]> said:
>
>> Very little...when they forced the changeover from analog to digital
>> in fringe areas, the signal went from snowy to the typical on/off of
>> digital and we went from the three networks plus PBS and one local to
>> the two networks most of the time and the third hit 'n miss and no PBS
>> or local. That's with an external amplifier on the signal prior to the
>> input to the digital converter; w/o it there's nothing at all.
>
> This tool may provide some useful information: http://www.tvfool.com/
Unfortunately, the tool can't move the transmitters any closer nor boost
their signal strength... :(
I _know_ where they are (there are, after all, only three affiliate
signals within 150 miles and the local and PBS are very low level output.
--
On 8/14/11 10:27 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/14/2011 9:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 8/14/2011 8:15 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is the most ill
>>> though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
>>
>> LOL ... ain't that the truth. They actually make comcast look like
>> geniuses with that device. I've gotten used to it now, but it took a
>> year to resist chunking it across the street.
>>
>
> I like the way that only 3 or 4 of the buttons light up. The ones that
> do light up make it even harder to see the ones you are actually hunting
> for.
Can you get a Logitech Harmony remote and use that?
I love mine (wore out the first one, lasted about tn years) depending on
the model they can replace a stack of remotes, and control many devices
all from one. You set up activities, like watch TV, in my case it turns
on the TV, sets it to HDMI1, turns on the amp, sets it to VIDEO1, turns
on the satellite box. All with one button, from then on, the volume
controls the amp, channel selection controls the sat box, etc.....even
my wife can use it. :-)
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On 8/14/11 3:12 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> FrozenNorth<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 8/14/11 10:27 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/14/2011 9:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 8/14/2011 8:15 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is the most ill
>>>>> though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
>>>>
>>>> LOL ... ain't that the truth. They actually make comcast look like
>>>> geniuses with that device. I've gotten used to it now, but it took a
>>>> year to resist chunking it across the street.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like the way that only 3 or 4 of the buttons light up. The ones that
>>> do light up make it even harder to see the ones you are actually hunting
>>> for.
>>
>> Can you get a Logitech Harmony remote and use that?
>> I love mine (wore out the first one, lasted about tn years) depending on
>> the model they can replace a stack of remotes, and control many devices
>> all from one. You set up activities, like watch TV, in my case it turns
>> on the TV, sets it to HDMI1, turns on the amp, sets it to VIDEO1, turns
>> on the satellite box. All with one button, from then on, the volume
>> controls the amp, channel selection controls the sat box, etc.....even
>> my wife can use it. :-)
>
> Philips has several 'computer programmable' remotes, under the 'Prestigo'
> model line, that can do all that kind of stuff. It's a _lot_ easier to
> program sequences, etc. on a full-size screen than on the little display on
> the remote itself. I picked up an 8-device unit on eBay, for _under_ $10
> (gloat!!), including shipping. I'm *highly* satisfied with it. (Their high-
> end model handles TWENTY(!!) devices.) I'm now down to two remotes; would
> need 10 (maybe 11) device capacity to get everything on one -- mostly
> because I've got a bunch of video gear: VHS deck, DVD changer, Laserdisc
> player, DVD _recorder_, TV converter, and the TV. Throw in the A/V receiver,
> CD mega-changer, a second DVD player, plus an audio recorder/player or two,
> and being able to control "only" 8 devices does come up a little short.
>
> One _really_ nice thing about the programmable Prestigo units, including the
> one I have (SR6008) -- Philips advertises them as 'obsolescence proof' -- You
> can download new device definitions from their website for things that
> "didn't exist" when you bought the unit. They've got something like _30,000+_
> devices in their definitions library. It's also capable of 'learning'
> from any remote you have 'in hand'.
>
>
no experience with the Philips, but the Logitech does the same thing,
plug it into the computer, go to the website and all is good. If it
doesn't have your device in the database, aim the old remote at it and
go button crazy.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
"Dale Miller" <[email protected]> wrote
> IMO if it is triangular or square it is not a mast but a tower, if round
> than it is a mast.
>
The Stratosphere Casino is a mast?
In article <[email protected]>,
FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/14/11 10:27 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/14/2011 9:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 8/14/2011 8:15 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am happier with Uverrse however their remote control is the most ill
>>>> though out controller I have ever laid my hands on.
>>>
>>> LOL ... ain't that the truth. They actually make comcast look like
>>> geniuses with that device. I've gotten used to it now, but it took a
>>> year to resist chunking it across the street.
>>>
>>
>> I like the way that only 3 or 4 of the buttons light up. The ones that
>> do light up make it even harder to see the ones you are actually hunting
>> for.
>
>Can you get a Logitech Harmony remote and use that?
>I love mine (wore out the first one, lasted about tn years) depending on
>the model they can replace a stack of remotes, and control many devices
>all from one. You set up activities, like watch TV, in my case it turns
>on the TV, sets it to HDMI1, turns on the amp, sets it to VIDEO1, turns
>on the satellite box. All with one button, from then on, the volume
>controls the amp, channel selection controls the sat box, etc.....even
>my wife can use it. :-)
Philips has several 'computer programmable' remotes, under the 'Prestigo'
model line, that can do all that kind of stuff. It's a _lot_ easier to
program sequences, etc. on a full-size screen than on the little display on
the remote itself. I picked up an 8-device unit on eBay, for _under_ $10
(gloat!!), including shipping. I'm *highly* satisfied with it. (Their high-
end model handles TWENTY(!!) devices.) I'm now down to two remotes; would
need 10 (maybe 11) device capacity to get everything on one -- mostly
because I've got a bunch of video gear: VHS deck, DVD changer, Laserdisc
player, DVD _recorder_, TV converter, and the TV. Throw in the A/V receiver,
CD mega-changer, a second DVD player, plus an audio recorder/player or two,
and being able to control "only" 8 devices does come up a little short.
One _really_ nice thing about the programmable Prestigo units, including the
one I have (SR6008) -- Philips advertises them as 'obsolescence proof' -- You
can download new device definitions from their website for things that
"didn't exist" when you bought the unit. They've got something like _30,000+_
devices in their definitions library. It's also capable of 'learning'
from any remote you have 'in hand'.
I get the only station in town in HDTV on my office TV via Rabbit Ears!
They are an electronic type - loop between the two extension type whips.
When storms wipe out the satellite on HD - I switch to the same channel
in analog - different angle in the sky. Then switch back.
I have and four down-links from 4 satellites for the house and shop.
We get a lot of junk and will likely truncate the channels to cut
the bill. Last time, they dropped the price to keep us were we were.
We were one of the first in the area to get it around here.
Martin
On 8/12/2011 7:45 AM, k-nuttle wrote:
> On 8/11/2011 11:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>> I know this is OT, but I respect the opinion of many here so here it
>> goes.
>>
>> I just bought a used 40' TV tower. $75 bucks. 45 miles asthecrowflies
>> from Detroit I will get about 36 channels a dozen or so HDTV. FREE
>> I walk the dog by this guy's house and he was wrenching his BMW
>> motorcycle so I stopped in and asked him about that nice shiny tower
>> he had... he showed me ...... incredible picture now it is all
>> digital. A dozen are HDTV... for FREE!!!!
>> There's never fuck-all on anyway... I pay for 150 channels of pure
>> unadulterated crap.
>> Between Netflix and FREE OTA TV... I'm saving some real Erdinger money
>> now...
> I have been enjoying broadcast TV since the change to digital and I
> don't have a tower. I get about 2 dozen channels, all national networks,
> PBS, and an all movie channels, and a channel the transmit about half
> movies and old sitcoms.