Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
cheers for prescription goggles).
Sorry, just venting.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:43:55 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>?
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Lights directly over a bench (and your head) are bright enough to dim
>> the transitionals.
>
>Wrong, I've never had that happen.
>
>Transitions don't change from the amount of light so that would not affect
>them at all.
You're right, I shouldn't have said "bright enough". Fluors give off
some UV, too, or didn't you know? I've watched other people's glasses
change under fluors.
Maybe not all brands of lenses are as sensitive as others. But I said
"dim", not "fully darken".
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
On Jan 2, 11:01=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:22:11 +0000 (UTC),
>
> [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>In article <[email protected]>,
> >>[email protected] says...
>
> >>> FWIW many safety professionals recommend against transistional lenses=
in
> >>> industrial settings where they are not used outdoors.
>
> >>I am curious as to why, other than that they don't get quite as clear a=
s
> >>conventional lenses?
>
> >I don't think a factory, warehouse, truck shop, etc. exists where the li=
ght
> >is too bright.
>
> Lights directly over a bench (and your head) are bright enough to dim
> the transitionals.
If the lights over a bench are dimming them then you need to be
wearing _something_ because you've got a UV source approximately as
bright as sunlight.
They won't dim in a car in broad daylight you know, because the
windshield and window glass block enough UV to stop them from working.
?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
>> Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection too.
>
> -------------------------------
> Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>
> Lew
>
>
I don't know. I take care of them and have not had a scratch in decades.
Yes, I wear them all my waking hours too.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 04:01:53 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>>
>>> Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection
>>> too.
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
>Is that a fact?
>
>There is a rather amazing list of properties of polycarbonate here:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
>
>I was pointed to them because they can make the same prescription
>with reduced thickness. I pay to have them "hardened", to reduce
>scratches, but maybe they are just taking my money. I go out of my way
>not to scratch them anyway. When I paint, or similar, I wear my old pair.
>
>I wish to get a face mask/shield for general protection when using power
>tools. Have a recommendation? "Works well with glasses" is
>non-negotiable.
I've had $30 and $15 AO Safety shields, and $8 and $3 HF shields.
The pricier ones are a bit thicker, but I've never had a large piece
break even the thin one. Most bits hitting it are very small, an inch
or less down to smaller than sand granule size.
Any of them will do as long as they have an infinitely adjustable
headband. Get that set right so it stays off your temples.
Almost all of them are made with polycarbonate, so it's stiffer and
tougher. (I can handle the distortion there, in small doses, but
moving around much just kills me. Urp!)
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
On Dec 31 2010, 1:34=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com>
wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote innews:MPG.2786f57ddf34e03f9899=
[email protected]:
>
> > Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> > else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> > on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK s=
o
> > no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> > ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> > Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> > glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> > cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> > Sorry, just venting.
>
> Are the motorcycle goggles useful for woodworking? =A0I usually use goggl=
es
> because they fit over my glasses, but have been wondering if prescription
> goggles or safety glasses would solve the fogging problems.
Mine are WileyX--they're small, not like aviator goggles. And they
don't really address fogging that much.
>
> Puckdropper
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 04:01:53 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>>
>>> Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection
>>> too.
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
>Is that a fact?
>
>There is a rather amazing list of properties of polycarbonate here:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
>
>I was pointed to them because they can make the same prescription
>with reduced thickness. I pay to have them "hardened", to reduce
>scratches, but maybe they are just taking my money. I go out of my way
>not to scratch them anyway. When I paint, or similar, I wear my old pair.
Polycarb glasses are lighter for coke-bottle prescriptions but they tend to
have annoying chromatic aberration, particularly at the edges of large lenses
(useful for computer work).
I *try* not to scratch my glasses, but that's obviously not good enough. I
took a chunk out of one pair last week, dropping them off a ladder onto the
rock below. The other pair went through the wash (presbyopia, so only needed
for reading). Both are still wearable, at least until I go to the eye doctor
in a couple of months.
>I wish to get a face mask/shield for general protection when using power
>tools. Have a recommendation? "Works well with glasses" is
>non-negotiable.
>
>Bill
Josepi wrote:
> "Opthamologist"? ROFLMFAO Samples of what? Knives and clamps?
>
> You guys can't seriously see an eye surgeon to get corrective lenses?
> Your car mechanic would probably be more advised on that one.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophthalmology
>
>
>
Hmm. I get an eye exam once a year from an opthamologist, not an
optometrist, not an optician, and not in the same building with a Walmart.
Here's my doctor's c.v.:
http://www.houstoneye.com/index.php?/doctor/action/view/doctor_name/Richard_Ou
You'll notice he's an honor graduate of Harvard, got his M.D. from Baylor,
and did his 4-year ophthalmic residency at UCLA's Jules Stein Eye Institute,
and is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons.
Now if YOU want to go to a car mechanic for corrective lenses (for eyes, not
fenders), well, to each his own I suppose.
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> Now, a
> couple months later, I'm noticing a distinct corrosion on the right
> temple, where it touches my face. I'm going to have to replace them
> with either SS or titanium frames due to my corrosive skin makeup.
Clearly a case of exposure to either WD40 or oak sawdust...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Jan 1, 11:37=A0am, "Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
> >> Glass glasses? =A0 =A0Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protectio=
n too.
>
> > -------------------------------
> > Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>
> How long has it been since you had a pair of polycarbonate lenses?
>
> I ask, because there are many different types of poly nowadays, and some
> like my last pair are the most scratch resistant of any I have ever had, =
by
> many times over.
>
> I just had to order a new pair, =A0since they got crushed, somehow. I onl=
y
> hope they are as good. =A0They had better be, for the price. =A0New frame=
s and
> transitions bifocals, 284 bucks. =A0I about chocked on that, but I will n=
ot
> have a pair without transitions (darkening and UV protection) lenses.
> --
> Jim in NC
Actually that's not a horrible price for polycarbonate Transitions.
Personally I've never been impressed with photochromic lenses though.
And you don't need to do anything to polycarbonate to get UV
protection anyway.
On Dec 30 2010, 10:52=A0pm, "WW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> > else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> > on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK s=
o
> > no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> > ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> > Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> > glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> > cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> > Sorry, just venting.
>
> J.C. I am an old motorcycle trail rider. Only need glasses for reading. J=
ust
> need goggles for eye protection. What type of beast do you ride? =A0WW
Suzuki DL650.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
>
Are the motorcycle goggles useful for woodworking? I usually use goggles
because they fit over my glasses, but have been wondering if prescription
goggles or safety glasses would solve the fogging problems.
Puckdropper
"J. Clarke" wrote:
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do
> something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had
> fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went
> CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles
> (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
---------------------------------------
Sounds like you were lucky.
You could have been wearing them when they broke.
Lew
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
> I don't know. I take care of them and have not had a scratch in
> decades. Yes, I wear them all my waking hours too.
-------------------------------------
Let me know how well they work after you have had to scrape some cured
epoxy drops off that polycarbonate lens, especially if the epoxy was
smeared while still wet.
Lew
"Larry Jaques" wrote:
>>-------------------------------------
>>Let me know how well they work after you have had to scrape some
>>cured
>>epoxy drops off that polycarbonate lens, especially if the epoxy was
>>smeared while still wet.
---------------------------------
> I wonder if RainX would have helped that. Give it a try, Lew.
---------------------------------
A single edge razor blade scrapes any crap off my glass lens with out
any problems.
Lew
"Morgans" wrote:
> How long has it been since you had a pair of polycarbonate lenses?
--------------------------------
Never.
Based on how I take care of glasses, perhaps mishandle is a better
description, have been advised to stay with glass.
-------------------------------------
> I just had to order a new pair, since they got crushed, somehow. I
only
> hope they are as good. They had better be, for the price. New
> frames and transitions bifocals, 284 bucks. I about chocked on
> that, but I will not have a pair without transitions (darkening and
> UV protection) lenses.
------------------------------
Sounds like you got a deal to me.
I wear a lens ground from 62mm blank for an aviator (RayBan) type
frame, trifocals and photo gray lenses.(Darkening for glass)
Corning is the only supplier and they are very proud of their 62mm
lenses.
(A shade under $400 for the last pair including frames and that
included a discount as a repeat customer.)
Lew
I wrote:
>> You get sun up there in Toronto?<G>
----------------------------
"FrozenNorth" wrote:
> Three months a year, just like clockwork.
--------------------------------
As I often told my mother when I went back to Ohio, "Ma, you have a
great summer here in Ohio, both days of it, July 4th and 5th."
And sometimes the 5th was cold.
Lew
On Dec 30 2010, 9:38=A0pm, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 30, 5:01=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> > else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> > on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK s=
o
> > no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> > ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> > Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> > glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> > cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> > Sorry, just venting.
>
> I had an optometrist (actually Mordecai Richler's brother in St
> John's) once ask me how many pairs of shoes I had. So why would I have
> only one pair of glasses? Although he had a definite interest in the
> matter, it makes perfect sense to me. Now, I have 3 pairs (I lost one
> on my hunting trip this fall, I couldn't find them under the snow.)
>
> I also had a scary incident on I5 in northern Oregon when my lens fell
> off on a rainy night last November. And that was the right eye, the
> one through which I see (for those who don't know, I am a one-eye-
> talian). Luckily there was a rest stop not too far ahead, but I had to
> go into the camper to get another pair. So I now keep a spare pair in
> the glove compartment.
>
> Luigi
Had that happen on the bike once. Of course the lens was gone--I
doubt it would have been much good after bouncing down the highway at
40 mph and getting run over a few times even if I could have found
it. Fortunately it was my sunglasses and I had my clears in the tank
bag so it was no big deal. Got the goggles shortly after that.
On Dec 31 2010, 1:00=A0am, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ?"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> > else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> > on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK s=
o
> > no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> > ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> > Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> > glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> > cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> > Sorry, just venting.
>
> Glass glasses? =A0 =A0Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection t=
oo.
Some kind of plastic--doesn't really matter--250 pounds in a riding
boot will do for any of them.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:14:20 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>
>> Now, a
>> couple months later, I'm noticing a distinct corrosion on the right
>> temple, where it touches my face. I'm going to have to replace them
>> with either SS or titanium frames due to my corrosive skin makeup.
>
>Clearly a case of exposure to either WD40 or oak sawdust...
I've never exposed my Zennis to oak rust, so...
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
On Dec 30 2010, 6:01=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
Sorry if this has been said (didn't read all the replies), but ...
Shop Glasses =3D Polycarbonate Lenses
http://www.allaboutvision.com/lenses/polycarb.htm
On Dec 31, 2:17=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> I wonder if RainX would have helped that. =A0Give it a try, Lew.
>
That shit should be outlawed for use on a windshield.
?
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
> Lights directly over a bench (and your head) are bright enough to dim
> the transitionals.
Wrong, I've never had that happen.
Transitions don't change from the amount of light so that would not affect
them at all.
This is how they work:
Transitions lenses are photochromic lenses. "Photochromic" means the lenses
change from clear to dark in the presence of ultraviolet (UV) radiation,
such as when exposed to sunlight. Indoors and at night, Transitions lenses
are as clear as regular clear lenses. Outdoors, when exposed to the sun's UV
rays, they turn sunglass dark, enhancing the quality of vision by reducing
glare, thereby minimizing eye strain and fatigue, and improving contrast in
all light conditions. And it's all automatic.
You need glasses as a woodworker anyway.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I can't wear contacts. Can manage them for a month or so but
eventually they get very uncomfortable for me. And that includes one
time use disposables so it's not my cleaning.
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:07:49 -0600, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Josepi wrote:
>> Wow! Good catch! I wonder if they can remove egg out my eye or a
>> person's face?
>>
>> I guess they are so short on quantity here they wouldn't think of
>> doing eye focal problems for the measly than the $3-400 per hour an
>> optometrist would make. In our area of about 500K we have more
>> Optometrists than can fit in several yellow pages and only two
>> Opthomologists and one retired a few years ago. Now Opticians run
>> amuck and are killing the Optometrists. The last one I saw was
>> brought in on a sub-contractor day at the Optician' place.
>>
>> I just can't imagine a trained surgeon lowering him/herself to
>> prescribe a lens grind for $75.
>>
>
>Ah, but if you are referred to an opthamologist for screening for a malady
>that's a consequence of a disease your family doctor is treating (say
>potential diabetic retinopathy), he'll easily throw in the scribbling of a
>prescription.
Sure, that's what my wife does when she has to see an ophthalmologist. No
need to see the optometrist and optician (works for the optometrist) that
year.
?
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> They won't dim in a car in broad daylight you know, because the
> windshield and window glass block enough UV to stop them from working.
>
About two or three times a year, I wish I could darken them in the car.
Most times it is not a bother at all. I really like the fact I don't have
to carry a second pair of glasses for sun. I've had transitions for about
12 years now.
Josepi wrote:
> Wow! Good catch! I wonder if they can remove egg out my eye or a
> person's face?
>
> I guess they are so short on quantity here they wouldn't think of
> doing eye focal problems for the measly than the $3-400 per hour an
> optometrist would make. In our area of about 500K we have more
> Optometrists than can fit in several yellow pages and only two
> Opthomologists and one retired a few years ago. Now Opticians run
> amuck and are killing the Optometrists. The last one I saw was
> brought in on a sub-contractor day at the Optician' place.
>
> I just can't imagine a trained surgeon lowering him/herself to
> prescribe a lens grind for $75.
>
Ah, but if you are referred to an opthamologist for screening for a malady
that's a consequence of a disease your family doctor is treating (say
potential diabetic retinopathy), he'll easily throw in the scribbling of a
prescription.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
J.C. I am an old motorcycle trail rider. Only need glasses for reading. Just
need goggles for eye protection. What type of beast do you ride? WW
>
J. Clarke wrote:
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had
> fallen on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that
> went CRACK so no straightening the frame and going on about my
> business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
Get contacts. Wear only one.
One eye will work for distance, the other for close-up (like reading).
I do that and the only disadvantage is that I have to concentrate for near
depth-perception .
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> FWIW many safety professionals recommend against transistional lenses in
> industrial settings where they are not used outdoors.
I am curious as to why, other than that they don't get quite as clear as
conventional lenses?
Yes they can be as dangerous as walking into a dark building from bright
reflective and cold snow outside and closing your eyes. When you can't see
an keep walking the glasses are not the major safety problem.
Mine fog real bad, as well as staying dark for a few minutes, after blowing
the snow outside and I have to take them off to hang up my coat.
I have had one pair that was realligned a few times before they got it right
to my eyes that had one glass go completely dead and stay clear permanently.
I guess the optometrist went to a different supplier when they adjusted the
lens. They were always a slightly different tint of colour anyway. Even my
old 20 year ones are still perfectly clear but they take time to "relearn"
to change dark and then they work the same as they always did.
I have another pair that always had a yellow tint to the lenses. After
complaining to another optometrist about them he took them out of the frames
and lo and behold....clear glass.
"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
My experience has been that's at least nearly enough true when they are
new or nearly so. W/ time, every pair I've had has--
a) Gotten where transition isn't nearly as dark
b) Transition back to light gets slower
c) "Clear" becomes less than perfect
d) Become much more temperature sensitive (in that cold weather and
hence lenses when outside) so that when return to inside in cold weather
may have to remove them to have sufficient light for a while until the
lenses can warm and transition.
The last I consider could be at least somewhat of a safety issue;
fortunately, not being on a time clock I can't get docked for waiting a
while while the lenses clear when go back into the barn from the bright
sunlight... :) In a fast-moving industrial setting it could be more
serious where an overhead crane or other such could be awaiting...
Josepi wrote:
> Any transitionals I have owned (probably about 15 pairs) have always been
> perfectly clear, with no tinting and it is not detectable.
...
--
Hardened polycarbonate were the ones they used to issue us for safety
Apparently the polycarbonate absorb more impact but they are softer and
scratch more easily. The hardening gives you the best of both worlds. This
probably means prescription, only and that also makes the wrap-around not be
available.
"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't know. I take care of them and have not had a scratch in decades.
Yes, I wear them all my waking hours too.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
Any transitionals I have owned (probably about 15 pairs) have always been
perfectly clear, with no tinting and it is not detectable.
I would be curious also. We used to have a nutbar, at work, that tooted this
stuff years ago but it all turned out to be crap. In the end the safety
people recommended the transitionals and paid for them. We had a severe
flash hazard in the electrical industry but they decided the lens was better
on your face than off due to not being used indoors (they used to issue
welding gas glass lenses and nobody would wear them inside)
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I am curious as to why, other than that they don't get quite as clear as
conventional lenses?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
FWIW many safety professionals recommend against transistional lenses in
industrial settings where they are not used outdoors.
Canada
I doubt our Opthomologists would know much about corrective lenses. Any
Optometrist would check for glaucoma and/cataracts, binaural vision and
perform tear duct flushing (minor eye precedures). I had it (duct flushing)
done once at an eye surgeon's practice and I won't do that again. Haven't
been right since. Optometry is a different field, taught in universities,
here, and the two don't cross very much.
An Optician would allign and spec the lens layout and fit them to your eyes
/ head. Poor Optometrists would do this themselves in light of a small
practice.
"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I don't know where your "here" is, but in US in gneral and at least in
the states I've any familiarity (about half), it is certainly not out of
the ordinary for opthamologists to have practices in which they
routinely see patients for such purposes as well as those requiring
their more in-depth training and knowledge (as compared to optometrists,
say). Whether there are any that would proscribe against such a
practice I'm unaware; doesn't seem like of much purpose.
As a general rule, I'll see the optometrist altho every X number of
years (X is a variable and not set by anybody/anything except whim) I'll
do the opthamologist route for a more thorough headlight alignment. As
aging, figure it can't hurt for the other guy to also consider what he
thinks re: early cataract signs, etc., etc., etc., ... even tho the base
services are roughly the same can't hurt to see the expert on occasion...
--
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Mine are WileyX--they're small, not like aviator goggles. And they
> don't really address fogging that much.
I just saw a ski goggle that looked interesting, and could work.
It had two layers of lens with space between them, and a tiny fan to blow
air though the space and into the face space to keep them from fogging up
while outside. They should not fog at all inside, I would think. They are
also impact resistant.
--
Jim in NC
He has all kinds of degrees but, here, he would not be prescribing
corrective lenses.
Does he aim headlights?
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hmm. I get an eye exam once a year from an opthamologist, not an
optometrist, not an optician, and not in the same building with a Walmart.
Here's my doctor's c.v.:
http://www.houstoneye.com/index.php?/doctor/action/view/doctor_name/Richard_Ou
You'll notice he's an honor graduate of Harvard, got his M.D. from Baylor,
and did his 4-year ophthalmic residency at UCLA's Jules Stein Eye Institute,
and is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons.
Now if YOU want to go to a car mechanic for corrective lenses (for eyes, not
fenders), well, to each his own I suppose.
Josepi wrote:
"Opthamologist"? ROFLMFAO Samples of what? Knives and clamps?
You guys can't seriously see an eye surgeon to get corrective lenses?
Your car mechanic would probably be more advised on that one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophthalmology
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bf66af30-0bb2-4b0f-b830-
I had an optometrist (actually Mordecai Richler's brother in St
John's) once ask me how many pairs of shoes I had. So why would I have
only one pair of glasses? Although he had a definite interest in the
matter, it makes perfect sense to me. Now, I have 3 pairs (I lost one
on my hunting trip this fall, I couldn't find them under the snow.)
I also had a scary incident on I5 in northern Oregon when my lens fell
off on a rainy night last November. And that was the right eye, the
one through which I see (for those who don't know, I am a one-eye-
talian). Luckily there was a rest stop not too far ahead, but I had to
go into the camper to get another pair. So I now keep a spare pair in
the glove compartment.
Currently, and hopefully not any worse, I only need reading glasses.
Therefore, I also keep several pairs all over the house as well as the shop.
Though, with the shop, I have a pair of safety glasses with the reader
magnification to my need imbedded on the bottom of the lens. Best $10 spent.
Wow! Good catch! I wonder if they can remove egg out my eye or a person's
face?
I guess they are so short on quantity here they wouldn't think of doing eye
focal problems for the measly than the $3-400 per hour an optometrist would
make. In our area of about 500K we have more Optometrists than can fit in
several yellow pages and only two Opthomologists and one retired a few years
ago. Now Opticians run amuck and are killing the Optometrists. The last one
I saw was brought in on a sub-contractor day at the Optician' place.
I just can't imagine a trained surgeon lowering him/herself to prescribe a
lens grind for $75.
On that note:
My parents had a little water leak and hired a plumber. After about 30
seconds under the sink the plumber anounced it was fixed and the bill was
$200 for the minimum time call.
My father went ballistic! "I am a brain surgeon and I don't make $200 in 1
minutes work!"
The plumber retorted with,
"I didn't make that either, when I was a brain sugeon!"
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
From the Canadian Ophthalmological Society website:
"Ophthalmologists are the designated leaders of the eye care team. They are
medical eye doctors who specialize in eye and vision care, diagnosis and the
treatment of eye disease and provide comprehensive eye exams, PRESCRIBE
CORRECTIVE LENSES, prescribe and administer medication and perform surgery."
(Emphasis added)
http://www.eyesite.ca/english/public-information/eye-care-team.htm
Because everytime the wiper travels across the windsheild the grease left
from the RainX garbage makes a haze that you can't see through. Then after
two or three seconds the haze disapears and the windsheild gets clear again.
Driving without wipers usually gives a better view, sometimes.
The stuff could be considered dangerous and probably should be banned. It's
like driving with your head up your ass half the time. Pehaps in a warmer
weather it may work.
"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Why? I love the stuff. At highway speeds, not using wipers gives a clear
view better than using wipers.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote >>
That shit (rain-X) should be outlawed for use on a windshield.
When polycarbonate meter covers replaced the glass ones the demo was to
throw a meter down an ashphalt road about 50 metres. The result? Not a
scratch for hardened polycarbonates. A gunshot was laso demonstrated. I
didn't get to see that one. Tougher than glass, anyday.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5bc971e2-8daf-45c0-8b08-d54a25a80fdf@c17g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Some kind of plastic--doesn't really matter--250 pounds in a riding
boot will do for any of them.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:cb291c06-6ba1-48e4-8643-3ccdb0e78007@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 31 2010, 4:01 am, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>>
>> >> Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protectio
> n
>> >> too.
>>
>> > -------------------------------
>> > Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>>
>> > Lew
>>
>> Is that a fact?
>>
>> There is a rather amazing list of properties of polycarbonate
>> here:http:/
> /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
>>
>> I was pointed to them because they can make the same prescription
>> with reduced thickness. I pay to have them "hardened", to reduce
>> scratches, but maybe they are just taking my money. I go out of my
>> way not to scratch them anyway. When I paint, or similar, I wear my
>> old pa
> ir.
>>
>> I wish to get a face mask/shield for general protection when using
>> power tools. Have a recommendation? "Works well with glasses" is
>> non-negotiable.
>
> I've got one of the Tritons with powered filter that works fine, but
> they're getting scarce in the US.
I hate the fabric type ones, and since I'm bearded with glasses, those
really don't work well (IMNSHO). I bought the Triton powered respirator
for too many $$ a few years back, and like it a lot. Now I retired, I'll
get to use it more ... I only need to find out what to do about fumes
from finishing stuff.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Neil Brooks <[email protected]> wrote in news:699aeac3-ac05-4f4b-8bd8-
[email protected]:
>
> Sorry if this has been said (didn't read all the replies), but ...
>
> Shop Glasses = Polycarbonate Lenses
>
> http://www.allaboutvision.com/lenses/polycarb.htm
>
As a woodturner, polycarbonate lense3s are great, except when using CA
glue.
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Because everytime the wiper travels across the windsheild the grease left
> from the RainX garbage makes a haze that you can't see through. Then after
> two or three seconds the haze disapears and the windsheild gets clear
> again.
> Driving without wipers usually gives a better view, sometimes.
>
Get some of the rain x windshield washer fluid. That will cut off the extra
treatment and get rid of the haze problem.
The washer fluid alone will do a good job, and not cause any haze problem.
--
Jim in NC
"Opthamologist"? ROFLMFAO Samples of what? Knives and clamps?
You guys can't seriously see an eye surgeon to get corrective lenses? Your
car mechanic would probably be more advised on that one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophthalmology
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Pity.
You might try ragging on your opthamologist for various "samples" from
various manufacturers. Wouldn't surprise me that you'd eventually find a
brand and model that worked quite well.
Josepi wrote:
You need glasses as a woodworker anyway.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I can't wear contacts. Can manage them for a month or so but
eventually they get very uncomfortable for me. And that includes one
time use disposables so it's not my cleaning.
On Dec 31 2010, 4:42=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
> > Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> > else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had
> > fallen on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that
> > went CRACK so no straightening the frame and going on about my
> > business.
>
> > ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> > Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> > glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> > cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> > Sorry, just venting.
>
> Get contacts. Wear only one.
>
> One eye will work for distance, the other for close-up (like reading).
>
> I do that and the only disadvantage is that I have to concentrate for nea=
r
> depth-perception .
I can't wear contacts. Can manage them for a month or so but
eventually they get very uncomfortable for me. And that includes one
time use disposables so it's not my cleaning.
On Dec 30, 5:01=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
I had an optometrist (actually Mordecai Richler's brother in St
John's) once ask me how many pairs of shoes I had. So why would I have
only one pair of glasses? Although he had a definite interest in the
matter, it makes perfect sense to me. Now, I have 3 pairs (I lost one
on my hunting trip this fall, I couldn't find them under the snow.)
I also had a scary incident on I5 in northern Oregon when my lens fell
off on a rainy night last November. And that was the right eye, the
one through which I see (for those who don't know, I am a one-eye-
talian). Luckily there was a rest stop not too far ahead, but I had to
go into the camper to get another pair. So I now keep a spare pair in
the glove compartment.
Luigi
On Dec 31 2010, 4:01=A0am, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
> > "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
> >> Glass glasses? =A0 =A0Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protectio=
n
> >> too.
>
> > -------------------------------
> > Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>
> > Lew
>
> Is that a fact?
>
> There is a rather amazing list of properties of polycarbonate here:http:/=
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
>
> I was pointed to them because they can make the same prescription
> with reduced thickness. =A0I pay to have them "hardened", to reduce
> scratches, but maybe they are just taking my money. I go out of my way
> not to scratch them anyway. =A0When I paint, or similar, I wear my old pa=
ir.
>
> I wish to get a face mask/shield for general protection when using power
> tools. Have a recommendation? =A0"Works well with glasses" is
> non-negotiable.
I've got one of the Tritons with powered filter that works fine, but
they're getting scarce in the US.
On Dec 31 2010, 2:35=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "J. Clarke" =A0wrote:
> > Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do
> > something
> > else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had
> > fallen
> > on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went
> > CRACK so
> > no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> > ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> > Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> > glasses. =A0And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles
> > (three
> > cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> > Sorry, just venting.
>
> ---------------------------------------
> Sounds like you were lucky.
>
> You could have been wearing them when they broke.
If I manage to step on my face, I think breaking my glasses will be
the least of my worries.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 01:00:26 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>?
>"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
>> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
>> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
>> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>>
>> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>>
>> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
>> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
>> cheers for prescription goggles).
I stepped on a rake (carefully stored backwards against the
wheelbarrow) the day after I got my new Zennis. It put two small
scraches on the left lens near the nose. It took five minutes to
reshape the frames, but nothing broke, including the lens. Now, a
couple months later, I'm noticing a distinct corrosion on the right
temple, where it touches my face. I'm going to have to replace them
with either SS or titanium frames due to my corrosive skin makeup.
This isn't the first time it's happened. My other glasses have longer
plastic segments on their temples and haven't corroded. I spent a
whopping extra $4 for an extra set of Zenni frames, too. I'll put
these lenses in that frame and keep it in the truck. I usually keep
the old pair there, too, just in case. And I now keep a set of
computer glasses in there, too.
>> Sorry, just venting.
>>
>
>Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection too.
IF you can stand the distortion. Poly has over twice the distortion
of high and regular index plastics. I had to have a pair of lenses
replaced for that reason once. They kept me dizzy for a week yet
showed up true in the prescription recheck. Caveat Emptor.
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
>> I don't know. I take care of them and have not had a scratch in decades.
>> Yes, I wear them all my waking hours too.
> -------------------------------------
> Let me know how well they work after you have had to scrape some cured
> epoxy drops off that polycarbonate lens, especially if the epoxy was
> smeared while still wet.
>
> Lew
>
>
I will, if it ever happens. If I thought I was in danger of getting epoxy
on my lenses, I'd be wearing safety glasses over them. Last scratch I
recall was when I was about 10 years old and got a scratch the first day I
wore my new glasses. Right down the center into the field of view. That
was before plastics.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
>> Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection
>> too.
>
> -------------------------------
> Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
>
> Lew
>
Is that a fact?
There is a rather amazing list of properties of polycarbonate here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
I was pointed to them because they can make the same prescription
with reduced thickness. I pay to have them "hardened", to reduce
scratches, but maybe they are just taking my money. I go out of my way
not to scratch them anyway. When I paint, or similar, I wear my old pair.
I wish to get a face mask/shield for general protection when using power
tools. Have a recommendation? "Works well with glasses" is
non-negotiable.
Bill
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
>
Goggles going to be interesting at the checkout line or worse - the Bank.
--
"He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! "
Brian's Mum
On 1/1/11 2:28 PM, Josepi wrote:
> Because everytime the wiper travels across the windsheild the grease left
> from the RainX garbage makes a haze that you can't see through. Then after
> two or three seconds the haze disapears and the windsheild gets clear again.
> Driving without wipers usually gives a better view, sometimes.
>
> The stuff could be considered dangerous and probably should be banned. It's
> like driving with your head up your ass half the time. Pehaps in a warmer
> weather it may work.
>
I bet it's corrosive, huh? :-p
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
In article <[email protected]>,
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 1/1/11 2:28 PM, Josepi wrote:
>> Because everytime the wiper travels across the windsheild the grease left
>> from the RainX garbage makes a haze that you can't see through. Then after
>> two or three seconds the haze disapears and the windsheild gets clear again.
>> Driving without wipers usually gives a better view, sometimes.
>>
>> The stuff could be considered dangerous and probably should be banned. It's
>> like driving with your head up your ass half the time. Pehaps in a warmer
>> weather it may work.
>>
>
>I bet it's corrosive, huh? :-p
>
>
It's a deadly combination when you are driving on a country road through
an oak-dominated forest...
--
Often wrong, never in doubt.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
In article <[email protected]>,
J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> FWIW many safety professionals recommend against transistional lenses in
>> industrial settings where they are not used outdoors.
>
>I am curious as to why, other than that they don't get quite as clear as
>conventional lenses?
>
>
I don't think a factory, warehouse, truck shop, etc. exists where the light
is too bright.
--
Often wrong, never in doubt.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
Josepi wrote:
> Any transitionals I have owned (probably about 15 pairs) have always been
> perfectly clear, with no tinting and it is not detectable.
...
My experience has been that's at least nearly enough true when they are
new or nearly so. W/ time, every pair I've had has--
a) Gotten where transition isn't nearly as dark
b) Transition back to light gets slower
c) "Clear" becomes less than perfect
d) Become much more temperature sensitive (in that cold weather and
hence lenses when outside) so that when return to inside in cold weather
may have to remove them to have sufficient light for a while until the
lenses can warm and transition.
The last I consider could be at least somewhat of a safety issue;
fortunately, not being on a time clock I can't get docked for waiting a
while while the lenses clear when go back into the barn from the bright
sunlight... :) In a fast-moving industrial setting it could be more
serious where an overhead crane or other such could be awaiting...
--
On 1/02/11 1:43 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> ?
> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Lights directly over a bench (and your head) are bright enough to dim
>> the transitionals.
>
> Wrong, I've never had that happen.
> Transitions don't change from the amount of light so that would not
> affect them at all.
>
> This is how they work:
> Transitions lenses are photochromic lenses. "Photochromic" means the
> lenses change from clear to dark in the presence of ultraviolet (UV)
> radiation, such as when exposed to sunlight. Indoors and at night,
> Transitions lenses are as clear as regular clear lenses. Outdoors, when
> exposed to the sun's UV rays, they turn sunglass dark, enhancing the
> quality of vision by reducing glare, thereby minimizing eye strain and
> fatigue, and improving contrast in all light conditions. And it's all
> automatic.
>
I just got an anti-glare coating on my last couple pairs of glasses,
find I don't need sunglasses.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
J. Clarke wrote:
> On Jan 2, 11:01 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:22:11 +0000 (UTC),
>>
>> [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>> FWIW many safety professionals recommend against transistional lenses in
>>>>> industrial settings where they are not used outdoors.
>>>> I am curious as to why, other than that they don't get quite as clear as
>>>> conventional lenses?
>>> I don't think a factory, warehouse, truck shop, etc. exists where the light
>>> is too bright.
>> Lights directly over a bench (and your head) are bright enough to dim
>> the transitionals.
>
> If the lights over a bench are dimming them then you need to be
> wearing _something_ because you've got a UV source approximately as
> bright as sunlight.
>
> They won't dim in a car in broad daylight you know, because the
> windshield and window glass block enough UV to stop them from working.
I just held the almost new pair up in front of the window here in SW KS
w/ bright sun -- storm and inside window, they did darken significantly,
even thru the glass. Tinted windshields are more UV filters, of course,
but was an interesting spearmint hadn't actually done before...
--
On 1/02/11 3:17 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "FrozenNorth" wrote
>> I just got an anti-glare coating on my last couple pairs of glasses,
>> find I don't need sunglasses.
> --------------------------------
> You get sun up there in Toronto?<G>
>
Three months a year, just like clockwork.
:-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Josepi wrote:
> He has all kinds of degrees but, here, he would not be prescribing
> corrective lenses.
...
I don't know where your "here" is, but in US in gneral and at least in
the states I've any familiarity (about half), it is certainly not out of
the ordinary for opthamologists to have practices in which they
routinely see patients for such purposes as well as those requiring
their more in-depth training and knowledge (as compared to optometrists,
say). Whether there are any that would proscribe against such a
practice I'm unaware; doesn't seem like of much purpose.
As a general rule, I'll see the optometrist altho every X number of
years (X is a variable and not set by anybody/anything except whim) I'll
do the opthamologist route for a more thorough headlight alignment. As
aging, figure it can't hurt for the other guy to also consider what he
thinks re: early cataract signs, etc., etc., etc., ... even tho the base
services are roughly the same can't hurt to see the expert on occasion...
--
I can't see it myself.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Let me know how well they work after you have had to scrape some cured
epoxy drops off that polycarbonate lens, especially if the epoxy was
smeared while still wet.
Lew
Josepi wrote:
> You need glasses as a woodworker anyway.
>
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> I can't wear contacts. Can manage them for a month or so but
> eventually they get very uncomfortable for me. And that includes one
> time use disposables so it's not my cleaning.
Pity.
You might try ragging on your opthamologist for various "samples" from
various manufacturers. Wouldn't surprise me that you'd eventually find a
brand and model that worked quite well.
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:15:29 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Dec 31, 2:17 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I wonder if RainX would have helped that. Give it a try, Lew.
>>
>That shit should be outlawed for use on a windshield.
Only at 40 below in sub-arctic banana belts. It works magnificently
here in the States. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft!
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
?
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Took my glasses off to see to mark something, went off to do something
> else, came back, something went CRACK--of course the glasses had fallen
> on the floor and that was them, and it was the lenses that went CRACK so
> no straightening the frame and going on about my business.
>
> ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
>
> Oh, well, 60 bucks to China and two weeks and I'll have plenty of
> glasses. And in the meantime I can wear my motorcycle goggles (three
> cheers for prescription goggles).
>
> Sorry, just venting.
>
Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection too.
Wasn't the oak that was abrasive, only the windshield glass that is hard on
the carborundum disc full of WD40 in the bearings..
"Markem" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Ah so you were using red oak saw dust as an abrasive eh?
Mark
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:05:09 -0500, "Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I won't touch their products ever again. It tooks me about three rounds of
>scrubbing to get that crap off my windshield before it stopped hazing over
>with normal blade wiping. I look for cleaning products without any grease
>in
>them.
>
>I wore out my angle grinder too...LOL
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:05:09 -0500, "Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I won't touch their products ever again. It tooks me about three rounds of
>scrubbing to get that crap off my windshield before it stopped hazing over
>with normal blade wiping. I look for cleaning products without any grease in
>them.
>
>I wore out my angle grinder too...LOL
Ah so you were using red oak saw dust as an abrasive eh?
Mark
I won't touch their products ever again. It tooks me about three rounds of
scrubbing to get that crap off my windshield before it stopped hazing over
with normal blade wiping. I look for cleaning products without any grease in
them.
I wore out my angle grinder too...LOL
"Morgans" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Get some of the rain x windshield washer fluid. That will cut off the extra
treatment and get rid of the haze problem.
The washer fluid alone will do a good job, and not cause any haze problem.
--
Jim in NC
"Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Because everytime the wiper travels across the windsheild the grease left
> from the RainX garbage makes a haze that you can't see through. Then after
> two or three seconds the haze disapears and the windsheild gets clear
> again.
> Driving without wipers usually gives a better view, sometimes.
>
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
>> Glass glasses? Polycarbonate is the way to go. Better protection too.
>
> -------------------------------
> Great visibility, especially when they get scratched.
How long has it been since you had a pair of polycarbonate lenses?
I ask, because there are many different types of poly nowadays, and some
like my last pair are the most scratch resistant of any I have ever had, by
many times over.
I just had to order a new pair, since they got crushed, somehow. I only
hope they are as good. They had better be, for the price. New frames and
transitions bifocals, 284 bucks. I about chocked on that, but I will not
have a pair without transitions (darkening and UV protection) lenses.
--
Jim in NC
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 08:32:11 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
>
>> I don't know. I take care of them and have not had a scratch in
>> decades. Yes, I wear them all my waking hours too.
>-------------------------------------
>Let me know how well they work after you have had to scrape some cured
>epoxy drops off that polycarbonate lens, especially if the epoxy was
>smeared while still wet.
I wonder if RainX would have helped that. Give it a try, Lew.
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:22:11 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] says...
>>>
>>> FWIW many safety professionals recommend against transistional lenses in
>>> industrial settings where they are not used outdoors.
>>
>>I am curious as to why, other than that they don't get quite as clear as
>>conventional lenses?
>
>I don't think a factory, warehouse, truck shop, etc. exists where the light
>is too bright.
Lights directly over a bench (and your head) are bright enough to dim
the transitionals.
--
Not merely an absence of noise, Real Silence begins
when a reasonable being withdraws from the noise in
order to find peace and order in his inner sanctuary.
-- Peter Minard
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote >>
> That shit (rain-X) should be outlawed for use on a windshield.
Why? I love the stuff. At highway speeds, not using wipers gives a clear
view better than using wipers.
--
Jim in NC
Josepi wrote:
> Canada
>
> I doubt our Opthomologists would know much about corrective lenses.
> Any Optometrist would check for glaucoma and/cataracts, binaural
> vision and perform tear duct flushing (minor eye precedures). I had
> it (duct flushing) done once at an eye surgeon's practice and I won't
> do that again. Haven't been right since. Optometry is a different
> field, taught in universities, here, and the two don't cross very
> much.
>
From the Canadian Ophthalmological Society website:
"Ophthalmologists are the designated leaders of the eye care team. They are
medical eye doctors who specialize in eye and vision care, diagnosis and the
treatment of eye disease and provide comprehensive eye exams, PRESCRIBE
CORRECTIVE LENSES, prescribe and administer medication and perform surgery."
(Emphasis added)
http://www.eyesite.ca/english/public-information/eye-care-team.htm