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Tim Daneliuk

07/01/2008 2:32 PM

ON Topic ;) - Wine Bottle Storage Dimensions

Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and
want to see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
experiences...

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GG

Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 1:18 PM

Chris Friesen said:

>Greg G. wrote:
>> J T said:
>
>>>You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
>>>then just stack the cases.
>
>> An old roommate used to buy hers by the box.
>> Wine in a bag in a box. Real connoisseur stuff. ;-)
>
>Actually, this is one of the best possible ways to serve wine. You can
>dispense it by the glass, and it has minimal exposure to oxygen so it
>lasts a long time once opened.
>
>Like metal screw-top caps, this is one of those things that wine snobs
>dislike but are real technological advances.

You have a point, although my primary critique was the wine itself
more so than the method of packaging. Chacun son goût.


Greg G.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 7:11 PM

On Jan 7, 9:59 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 7:26 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> >> Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim Daneliuk)
> >> doth come in and waonder:
> >> Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
> >> bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
> >> Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and want to
> >> see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
> >> experiences...
>
> >> Where do you people come from? Do it like everyone else. Make
> >> your 'cubbyholes' all the same size, large enough to hold the largest
> >> bottle you expect to store. You can always put a small bottle in a
> >> large space, but you've got to grease the living Hell out of a large
> >> bottle to get it into a small space. You wants to store a few even
> >> larger bottles, make a small, separate cabinet for them. If you want
> >> the cubbyholes sized to the bottles, make separate cabinets for each.
> >> Did you bother googling? You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
> >> then just stack the cases.
>
> >> I used to be enthralled with different wines. But now I've got it
> >> figured out. Champagne is sour wine. Most of the others are too
> >> expensive. I finally figured it out. All you need is one wine you
> >> like, and stick with it. So now, when I drink wine it is just one
> >> imported wine - Mother Vinyard's Scuppernong Wine. It's imported fom
> >> Virginia. Good stuff. I buy it by the bottle, and store it in the
> >> fridge.
>
> > Nice to know you don't have to buy the wine by the cup full any
> > more! :)~
>
> > I think we both missed Tim's cry for help in convincing SWMBO that the
> > large quantity of bottles coming into his house full, and leaving
> > empty, are purely for woodworking research purposes. Don't back down,
> > Tim! Be a man and sneak the bottles in like the rest of us do. ;)
>
>
> You a guys are all weak. My SWMBO *sells* booze and wine - I get
> mine free or at a discount ... and she tells me we don't have
> anywhere near enough in "storage".
>
> P.S. She does NOT have a sister ... well not a single one anyway.
>
> Bwhahahahahahaha

Without a doubt the most cunning intro to a gloat I've ever read.
Well done (ya bastid!). ;)

R

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 12:06 PM

Greg G. wrote:
> J T said:

>>You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
>>then just stack the cases.

> An old roommate used to buy hers by the box.
> Wine in a bag in a box. Real connoisseur stuff. ;-)

Actually, this is one of the best possible ways to serve wine. You can
dispense it by the glass, and it has minimal exposure to oxygen so it
lasts a long time once opened.

Like metal screw-top caps, this is one of those things that wine snobs
dislike but are real technological advances.

Chris

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 11:30 AM


Somebody wrote:

> An old roommate used to buy hers by the box.
> Wine in a bag in a box. Real connoisseur stuff. ;-)

Think 2 Buck Chuck or better yet, check out the 99 cent store.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 12:31 PM


"Greg G." wrote:

> And what is a 2 Buck Chuck?

Charles Shaw, a California wine.

Guy who owns the winery just loves to piss off the Northern CA
vineyards, so it retails for $1.99/bottle, and he is making money.

Am told it is pretty good stuff.

May or may not be available in your area.

Check Trader Joes, if you have one.

> I didn't know you could buy alcohol at the dollar store... ;-)

The 99 cent store chain is strictly a SoCal outfit and is a different
operation than the Dollar Stores which are also in SoCal.

99 cent is strictly a liquidator type operation.

If they can make money at 99 cents, they will figure out a way to sell
it.

SFWIW, eggs have had large price increases so 99 cent now sells a 6
pack of eggs for 99 cents which becomes $2/dozen or about 2/3 the
supermarket price.

As for the 99 cent, understand it ain't bad.

I don't partake of the grape, we agree to disagree.

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 1:11 PM


"Greg G." wrote:

> We have one. Carol goes there, I'll have her check it out.
> I can afford to gamble 2 bucks to help out a fellow antagonist. ;-)

Before 2 buck chuck, was told the true method of buying wine at Trader
Joes.

Buy the cheapest bottle in the store.

Go outside, open bottle, and take a swig.

If you throw up, throw bottle in trash, then repeat with next lowest
cost bottle.

If you don't throw up, go back inside and buy rest of the case.

Straight fwd binary decision.

> Then there's the SA fault line.

When the rest of the country falls into the Atlantic, CA will still be
here<G>.

> I'm still trying to get over the
> state run liquor stores in New Hampshire

I grew up in Ohio back when you got your liquor at the "State Store".

State got out of the booze business, but don't remember when.

I quit the hard stuff a long time ago.

> nothing like that here in The Belt:

Where that?

Lew

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 3:57 PM

Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:

>> Guy who owns the winery just loves to piss off the Northern CA
>> vineyards, so it retails for $1.99/bottle, and he is making money.
>>
>> Am told it is pretty good stuff.

> For the money, it is VERY good. It's $2.99 at Trader Joe's here
> in metro Chicago, no doubt due to the taxation by the People's
> Republic Of Illinois...

You've got it lucky. I can barely buy decent juice to make my own wine
for $2/bottle. The cheapest wine available here is more like $7/bottle
and I wouldn't want to drink it.

Chris

JJ

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 7:26 PM

Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim=A0Daneliuk)
doth come in and waonder:
Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and want to
see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
experiences...

Where do you people come from? Do it like everyone else. Make
your 'cubbyholes' all the same size, large enough to hold the largest
bottle you expect to store. You can always put a small bottle in a
large space, but you've got to grease the living Hell out of a large
bottle to get it into a small space. You wants to store a few even
larger bottles, make a small, separate cabinet for them. If you want
the cubbyholes sized to the bottles, make separate cabinets for each.
Did you bother googling? You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
then just stack the cases.

I used to be enthralled with different wines. But now I've got it
figured out. Champagne is sour wine. Most of the others are too
expensive. I finally figured it out. All you need is one wine you
like, and stick with it. So now, when I drink wine it is just one
imported wine - Mother Vinyard's Scuppernong Wine. It's imported fom
Virginia. Good stuff. I buy it by the bottle, and store it in the
fridge.



JOAT
You can't always judge by appearances, the early bird may have been up
all night.

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 9:22 PM

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jan 7, 9:59 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> RicodJour wrote:
>>> On Jan 7, 7:26 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>>>> Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim Daneliuk)
>>>> doth come in and waonder:
>>>> Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
>>>> bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
>>>> Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and want to
>>>> see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
>>>> experiences...
>>>> Where do you people come from? Do it like everyone else. Make
>>>> your 'cubbyholes' all the same size, large enough to hold the largest
>>>> bottle you expect to store. You can always put a small bottle in a
>>>> large space, but you've got to grease the living Hell out of a large
>>>> bottle to get it into a small space. You wants to store a few even
>>>> larger bottles, make a small, separate cabinet for them. If you want
>>>> the cubbyholes sized to the bottles, make separate cabinets for each.
>>>> Did you bother googling? You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
>>>> then just stack the cases.
>>>> I used to be enthralled with different wines. But now I've got it
>>>> figured out. Champagne is sour wine. Most of the others are too
>>>> expensive. I finally figured it out. All you need is one wine you
>>>> like, and stick with it. So now, when I drink wine it is just one
>>>> imported wine - Mother Vinyard's Scuppernong Wine. It's imported fom
>>>> Virginia. Good stuff. I buy it by the bottle, and store it in the
>>>> fridge.
>>> Nice to know you don't have to buy the wine by the cup full any
>>> more! :)~
>>> I think we both missed Tim's cry for help in convincing SWMBO that the
>>> large quantity of bottles coming into his house full, and leaving
>>> empty, are purely for woodworking research purposes. Don't back down,
>>> Tim! Be a man and sneak the bottles in like the rest of us do. ;)
>>
>> You a guys are all weak. My SWMBO *sells* booze and wine - I get
>> mine free or at a discount ... and she tells me we don't have
>> anywhere near enough in "storage".
>>
>> P.S. She does NOT have a sister ... well not a single one anyway.
>>
>> Bwhahahahahahaha
>
> Without a doubt the most cunning intro to a gloat I've ever read.
> Well done (ya bastid!). ;)
>
> R

<Takes a bow and waits for further laurels...>

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RicodJour

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 3:03 PM

On Jan 7, 3:32 pm, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
> bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
> Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and
> want to see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
> experiences...

This site seems pretty reasonable: http://www.winerackshop.com/dimensions.htm
They have an online rack designer, too: http://www.winerackshop.com/designer.htm

R

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 3:54 PM

Lew Hodgett said:

>"Greg G." wrote:
>> And what is a 2 Buck Chuck?
>
>Charles Shaw, a California wine.

OK - now it makes sense.

>Am told it is pretty good stuff.
>May or may not be available in your area.
>Check Trader Joes, if you have one.

We have one. Carol goes there, I'll have her check it out.
I can afford to gamble 2 bucks to help out a fellow antagonist. ;-)

>> I didn't know you could buy alcohol at the dollar store... ;-)
>
>The 99 cent store chain is strictly a SoCal outfit and is a different
>operation than the Dollar Stores which are also in SoCal.

Figured it was something like that. Haven't been to SoCal in 4 years,
2 years for the Sierra Nevada mountains. Nice weather down there in
LaLa land, but the cost of land and water is too rich for my blood.
Then there's the SA fault line. I know folks in Santa Barbara and LA.

>I don't partake of the grape, we agree to disagree.

Not much for me either. Sometimes years. Much more so when hunting for
wemmens, although the demographics have changed for the worse around
here and hardly worth the effort. I'm still trying to get over the
state run liquor stores in New Hampshire - at the freeway rest stops
no less. They do a booming business and stock quite a wide variety. I
just had to stop and look it over. nothing like that here in The Belt:
http://webpages.charter.net/videodoctor/images/NH_LiquorStore.jpg

FWIW,

Greg G.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 10:45 PM

Scott Zrubek said:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Swingman said:
>>
>> >
>> >"Greg G." wrote
>> >
>> >> You have a point, although my primary critique was the wine itself
>> >> more so than the method of packaging. Chacun son goût.
>> >
>> >Leon and I have developed an absolute, fail safe, method of determining the
>> >quality of any red wine.
>> >
>> >In an appropriate wine glase, we add the wine, then carefully dip and swirl
>> >a BlueBell 'Sugar Free'[ grape popsicle therein ... if your mouth waters:
>> >
>> >À chacun, un goût !
>>
>> New one on me. I suppose that on a sweltering Houston August day that
>> would taste pretty good. They don't sell BlueBell popsicles here
>> (named, I assume, after the state flower) and I'm not too sure I want
>> to lick anything Leon has had in his mouth. You did say one glass and
>> one popsicle. :-)
>>
>> But I had better watch what I say.
>> Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue.
>>
>>
>> Greg G.
>
>The state flower is actually the Bluebonnet.

My bad. I suppose my memory was blurred by their abundance last time
I was in Texas. At least I got the "Blue" part correct.


Greg G.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 12:34 PM


"Greg G." wrote

> You have a point, although my primary critique was the wine itself
> more so than the method of packaging. Chacun son goût.

Leon and I have developed an absolute, fail safe, method of determining the
quality of any red wine.

In an appropriate wine glase, we add the wine, then carefully dip and swirl
a BlueBell 'Sugar Free'[ grape popsicle therein ... if your mouth waters:


À chacun, un goût !

:)


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"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 9:54 PM


"Chris Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> You've got it lucky. I can barely buy decent juice to make my own wine
> for $2/bottle. The cheapest wine available here is more like $7/bottle
> and I wouldn't want to drink it.
>
> Chris

Juice to make wine now seems to be in the $2.50 to $3.50 range depending on
type and source.

My first tip to a supermarket (non-tourist area) in Italy was a surprise.
They had a display of wines on one aisle about 30 feet long. Prices started
at 1.5 Euro. I figured I was reading things wrong but sure enough, it was
that cheap. And pretty good for the price.

Vn

"Virgle"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 5:17 PM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim Daneliuk)
doth come in and waonder:
Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and want to
see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
experiences...

Probably not what you want but I made mine from 4 inch thin wall pvc. I
built a box with sliding doors and just stacked them up with a bit of pvc
glue between each row. Raise the back of the first row up so the cork stays
wet. I can store close to 200 bottles in a basement room that stays dark and
cool. Cheap but works.
I make my own wine.
Virgle

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 7:04 PM


> I think we both missed Tim's cry for help in convincing SWMBO that the
> large quantity of bottles coming into his house full, and leaving
> empty, are purely for woodworking research purposes. Don't back down,
> Tim! Be a man and sneak the bottles in like the rest of us do. ;)
>
> R

That's right. He needs to do his research:

- Buy
- Measure
- Drink
- Measure again (but pay more attention to the first measurement)

RonB

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 4:50 PM

On Jan 7, 7:26 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim Daneliuk)
> doth come in and waonder:
> Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
> bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
> Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and want to
> see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
> experiences...
>
> Where do you people come from? Do it like everyone else. Make
> your 'cubbyholes' all the same size, large enough to hold the largest
> bottle you expect to store. You can always put a small bottle in a
> large space, but you've got to grease the living Hell out of a large
> bottle to get it into a small space. You wants to store a few even
> larger bottles, make a small, separate cabinet for them. If you want
> the cubbyholes sized to the bottles, make separate cabinets for each.
> Did you bother googling? You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
> then just stack the cases.
>
> I used to be enthralled with different wines. But now I've got it
> figured out. Champagne is sour wine. Most of the others are too
> expensive. I finally figured it out. All you need is one wine you
> like, and stick with it. So now, when I drink wine it is just one
> imported wine - Mother Vinyard's Scuppernong Wine. It's imported fom
> Virginia. Good stuff. I buy it by the bottle, and store it in the
> fridge.

Nice to know you don't have to buy the wine by the cup full any
more! :)~

I think we both missed Tim's cry for help in convincing SWMBO that the
large quantity of bottles coming into his house full, and leaving
empty, are purely for woodworking research purposes. Don't back down,
Tim! Be a man and sneak the bottles in like the rest of us do. ;)

R

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 8:46 PM

J T wrote:
> Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim
> Daneliuk)
> doth come in and waonder:
> Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
> bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
> Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and
> want
> to see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
> experiences...
>
> Where do you people come from? Do it like everyone else. Make
> your 'cubbyholes' all the same size, large enough to hold the
> largest
> bottle you expect to store. You can always put a small bottle in a
> large space, but you've got to grease the living Hell out of a large
> bottle to get it into a small space. You wants to store a few even
> larger bottles, make a small, separate cabinet for them. If you
> want
> the cubbyholes sized to the bottles, make separate cabinets for
> each.
> Did you bother googling? You could always buy your Ripple by the
> case, then just stack the cases.
>
> I used to be enthralled with different wines. But now I've got
> it figured out. Champagne is sour wine. Most of the others are too
> expensive. I finally figured it out. All you need is one wine you
> like, and stick with it. So now, when I drink wine it is just one
> imported wine - Mother Vinyard's Scuppernong Wine. It's imported
> fom
> Virginia. Good stuff. I buy it by the bottle, and store it in the
> fridge.

Brings back memories. But Mother Clarke's wasn't all that good.

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"charlie"

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

09/01/2008 1:18 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Chris Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> You've got it lucky. I can barely buy decent juice to make my own wine
>> for $2/bottle. The cheapest wine available here is more like $7/bottle
>> and I wouldn't want to drink it.
>>
>> Chris
>
> Juice to make wine now seems to be in the $2.50 to $3.50 range depending
> on type and source.
>
> My first tip to a supermarket (non-tourist area) in Italy was a surprise.
> They had a display of wines on one aisle about 30 feet long. Prices
> started at 1.5 Euro. I figured I was reading things wrong but sure
> enough, it was that cheap. And pretty good for the price.

try a fresh wine store next time you're there. little hole in the wall with
all sorts of wine delivered straight from the vineyards in 100 litre
carboys. hand them your bag of jugs, go shopping, and come back to pick up
your full ones. it tastes very different than bottled wine.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

09/01/2008 3:12 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Tim Daneliuk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
>>bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
>>Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and
>>want to see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
>>experiences...
>
>Arrange the bottles in a rectangular cubby as below: (best viewed with a
>fixed-space font such as Courier)
>
>O O O
> O O
>O O O
> O O
>O O O
>
Note that spacing in above ascii-art diagram is merely to show the arrangement
of the bottles, which are (in my cubbies, at least) touching. In paragraph
below, 'width' and 'height' should read 'minimum width' and 'minimum height'
respectively.

>Width of cubbyhole is obviously three bottle diameters; height is, somewhat
>less obviously, 4.464 bottle diameters. General formula for 'n' rows is
>(((n - 1) * sqrt(3) / 2) + 1) diameters. Add a small amount, maybe 1/4", to
>each dimension for clearance.
>
>
>

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It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

09/01/2008 2:01 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
>bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
>Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and
>want to see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
>experiences...

Arrange the bottles in a rectangular cubby as below: (best viewed with a
fixed-space font such as Courier)

O O O
O O
O O O
O O
O O O

Width of cubbyhole is obviously three bottle diameters; height is, somewhat
less obviously, 4.464 bottle diameters. General formula for 'n' rows is
(((n - 1) * sqrt(3) / 2) + 1) diameters. Add a small amount, maybe 1/4", to
each dimension for clearance.



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It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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Tim Daneliuk

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 8:59 PM

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jan 7, 7:26 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>> Mon, Jan 7, 2008, 2:32pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Tim Daneliuk)
>> doth come in and waonder:
>> Does anyone have a list of recommended dimensions for storing wine
>> bottles of various sizes: 375 ml, 750ml, 1.5 l, and possibly even
>> Champagne. I am trying to concoct my own wine storage system and want to
>> see if my estimated cubbyhole sizes align with other people's
>> experiences...
>>
>> Where do you people come from? Do it like everyone else. Make
>> your 'cubbyholes' all the same size, large enough to hold the largest
>> bottle you expect to store. You can always put a small bottle in a
>> large space, but you've got to grease the living Hell out of a large
>> bottle to get it into a small space. You wants to store a few even
>> larger bottles, make a small, separate cabinet for them. If you want
>> the cubbyholes sized to the bottles, make separate cabinets for each.
>> Did you bother googling? You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
>> then just stack the cases.
>>
>> I used to be enthralled with different wines. But now I've got it
>> figured out. Champagne is sour wine. Most of the others are too
>> expensive. I finally figured it out. All you need is one wine you
>> like, and stick with it. So now, when I drink wine it is just one
>> imported wine - Mother Vinyard's Scuppernong Wine. It's imported fom
>> Virginia. Good stuff. I buy it by the bottle, and store it in the
>> fridge.
>
> Nice to know you don't have to buy the wine by the cup full any
> more! :)~
>
> I think we both missed Tim's cry for help in convincing SWMBO that the
> large quantity of bottles coming into his house full, and leaving
> empty, are purely for woodworking research purposes. Don't back down,
> Tim! Be a man and sneak the bottles in like the rest of us do. ;)
>
> R

You a guys are all weak. My SWMBO *sells* booze and wine - I get
mine free or at a discount ... and she tells me we don't have
anywhere near enough in "storage".

P.S. She does NOT have a sister ... well not a single one anyway.


Bwhahahahahahaha

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Tim Daneliuk

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 3:14 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Greg G." wrote:
>
>> And what is a 2 Buck Chuck?
>
> Charles Shaw, a California wine.
>
> Guy who owns the winery just loves to piss off the Northern CA
> vineyards, so it retails for $1.99/bottle, and he is making money.
>
> Am told it is pretty good stuff.


For the money, it is VERY good. It's $2.99 at Trader Joe's here
in metro Chicago, no doubt due to the taxation by the People's
Republic Of Illinois...

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Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 11:01 PM

Lew Hodgett said:
>
>"Greg G." wrote:

>Buy the cheapest bottle in the store.
>Go outside, open bottle, and take a swig.
>If you throw up, throw bottle in trash, then repeat with next lowest
>cost bottle.
>If you don't throw up, go back inside and buy rest of the case.
>Straight fwd binary decision.

Makes sense, although I'd be wary of the next day reaction.
(Hangover if used in excess...)

>> Then there's the SA fault line.
>
>When the rest of the country falls into the Atlantic, CA will still be
>here<G>.

Well hell, maybe I'll move there after all.

>> I'm still trying to get over the
>> state run liquor stores in New Hampshire
>
>I grew up in Ohio back when you got your liquor at the "State Store".
>State got out of the booze business, but don't remember when.
>I quit the hard stuff a long time ago.

Didn't even drink until my late 20s, and that was mostly 'cause that's
where the single women were. Unfortunately, there was a reason, most
times, why they were single. Was talked into it by co-workers. Same
with cigarettes. They were dead wrong on both counts.

>> nothing like that here in The Belt:
>
>Where that?

The Bible Belt. Dixie Mafia land. The Southeast.
I'm still in disbelief they allowed the government into the gambling
business during my 8 year absence. What a racket.


Greg G.

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Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 2:08 PM

Swingman said:

>
>"Greg G." wrote
>
>> You have a point, although my primary critique was the wine itself
>> more so than the method of packaging. Chacun son goût.
>
>Leon and I have developed an absolute, fail safe, method of determining the
>quality of any red wine.
>
>In an appropriate wine glase, we add the wine, then carefully dip and swirl
>a BlueBell 'Sugar Free'[ grape popsicle therein ... if your mouth waters:
>
>À chacun, un goût !

New one on me. I suppose that on a sweltering Houston August day that
would taste pretty good. They don't sell BlueBell popsicles here
(named, I assume, after the state flower) and I'm not too sure I want
to lick anything Leon has had in his mouth. You did say one glass and
one popsicle. :-)

But I had better watch what I say.
Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue.


Greg G.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 2:56 PM

Lew Hodgett said:

>
>Somebody wrote:
>
> > An old roommate used to buy hers by the box.
>> Wine in a bag in a box. Real connoisseur stuff. ;-)
>
>Think 2 Buck Chuck or better yet, check out the 99 cent store.

OK, Lew, I draw the line at anything worse than Boones Farm Mountain
Apple. And what is a 2 Buck Chuck? Sounds like slang for Krystals -
or a reference to what happens after you eat there. Although I guess
that would be a 2 Buck Upchuck. Or has the economy taken such a
downward turn that you're shopping for Sterno and handkerchiefs again?
I didn't know you could buy alcohol at the dollar store... ;-)


Greg G.

SZ

Scott Zrubek

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

08/01/2008 4:29 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Greg G.<[email protected]> wrote:

> Swingman said:
>
> >
> >"Greg G." wrote
> >
> >> You have a point, although my primary critique was the wine itself
> >> more so than the method of packaging. Chacun son goût.
> >
> >Leon and I have developed an absolute, fail safe, method of determining the
> >quality of any red wine.
> >
> >In an appropriate wine glase, we add the wine, then carefully dip and swirl
> >a BlueBell 'Sugar Free'[ grape popsicle therein ... if your mouth waters:
> >
> >À chacun, un goût !
>
> New one on me. I suppose that on a sweltering Houston August day that
> would taste pretty good. They don't sell BlueBell popsicles here
> (named, I assume, after the state flower) and I'm not too sure I want
> to lick anything Leon has had in his mouth. You did say one glass and
> one popsicle. :-)
>
> But I had better watch what I say.
> Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue.
>
>
> Greg G.

The state flower is actually the Bluebonnet.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 8:30 PM

J T said:

> You could always buy your Ripple by the case,
>then just stack the cases.

An old roommate used to buy hers by the box.
Wine in a bag in a box. Real connoisseur stuff. ;-)
She was a nice young lady though, one of the last I've known.
And one of the few native Georgia women I would have dated.
Ah, well...


Greg G.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Tim Daneliuk on 07/01/2008 2:32 PM

07/01/2008 8:13 PM

RonB said:

>
>> I think we both missed Tim's cry for help in convincing SWMBO that the
>> large quantity of bottles coming into his house full, and leaving
>> empty, are purely for woodworking research purposes. Don't back down,
>> Tim! Be a man and sneak the bottles in like the rest of us do. ;)
>>
>> R
>
>That's right. He needs to do his research:
>
>- Buy
>- Measure
>- Drink
>- Measure again (but pay more attention to the first measurement)

Well, that's close, but you left out the market research portion.
Bottles may vary by region. You must try Leibfraumilches, Merlots,
Chardonnays and even a few African wines in order to insure all
bottles will fit. I'll drink to that...


Greg G.


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