On Feb 16, 11:59=A0am, Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 5:12 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 15, 3:53 pm, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:55 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >Engineered stone would be a better choice.. aka quartz.
> > > >There are plenty of slabs available, usually end-cuts and sink/cookto=
p
> > > >cut-outs.
> > > >The main reason eStone would be better, is that it holds a variety of=
> > > >fasteners better, and can be machined to thinner dimensions while
> > > >staying very strong.
>
> > > >That kind of material makes for great router table tops.
>
> > > Do you know anyone who could make one to order? =A0<G>
>
> > Would 17 x 26, or sometimes 18 x 28 be a good size? They'd run from 55
> > - 70 pounds. Minus the cut-out for the router body. The body has to be
> > brought up to a thinner spot than the customary 1.25" thickness.
> > God forbid I'd tempt anybody to use a router-bit extender.
> > Maybe a router plate would have to be used.. like a Lee Valley.
>
> You'd lose a lot of accuracy with an extender. Steel City is offering
> table saws with granite tops. I've got a request in for a bit more
> information than the web site or press releases include, but it sounds
> interesting: I've been fighting rust, usually successfully, on table
> saw tops since I was 15, and I wouldn't mind a break, but I'm worried
> about fragility...my guess is, though, that if it makes it to your
> shop in one piece, and you get it set up, fragility is no longer a
> worry. And you have another place to rest coffee mugs.
Just don't peen over any rivets on it.
On Feb 15, 3:17 pm, Granitebear <[email protected]> wrote:
"Do you know anyone who could make one to order"
It seems to me that any counter top company could do that job as you
are asking for a small counter top with a very small sink cut out!.
Why not Google the manufactures sites for local vendors and ask a
couple of them.
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 12:17pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Granitebear) doth
walk in and mumble:
I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
would you be interested in buying one? I am thinking that they would be
the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast iron
tops. What do you think. I am just looking for some opinions or ideas.
Let me guess. You want to start a conversation.
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On Feb 15, 12:17=A0pm, Granitebear <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? =A0I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. =A0What do you think. =A0I am just looking for some opinions or=
> ideas.
On Feb 15, 5:12 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 3:53 pm, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:55 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >Engineered stone would be a better choice.. aka quartz.
> > >There are plenty of slabs available, usually end-cuts and sink/cooktop
> > >cut-outs.
> > >The main reason eStone would be better, is that it holds a variety of
> > >fasteners better, and can be machined to thinner dimensions while
> > >staying very strong.
>
> > >That kind of material makes for great router table tops.
>
> > Do you know anyone who could make one to order? <G>
>
> Would 17 x 26, or sometimes 18 x 28 be a good size? They'd run from 55
> - 70 pounds. Minus the cut-out for the router body. The body has to be
> brought up to a thinner spot than the customary 1.25" thickness.
> God forbid I'd tempt anybody to use a router-bit extender.
> Maybe a router plate would have to be used.. like a Lee Valley.
You'd lose a lot of accuracy with an extender. Steel City is offering
table saws with granite tops. I've got a request in for a bit more
information than the web site or press releases include, but it sounds
interesting: I've been fighting rust, usually successfully, on table
saw tops since I was 15, and I wouldn't mind a break, but I'm worried
about fragility...my guess is, though, that if it makes it to your
shop in one piece, and you get it set up, fragility is no longer a
worry. And you have another place to rest coffee mugs.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:12:56 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Would 17 x 26, or sometimes 18 x 28 be a good size? They'd run from 55
>- 70 pounds. Minus the cut-out for the router body. The body has to be
>brought up to a thinner spot than the customary 1.25" thickness.
>God forbid I'd tempt anybody to use a router-bit extender.
>Maybe a router plate would have to be used.. like a Lee Valley.
An 18x28 would work for me, as my current 1-1/2" (2x3/4") MDF top is
20x30. My plate is a Rousseau, which has been fine for 5 years. The
cutout for the plate has a 3/4" wide rabbet that the plate drops into.
How do you cut and rout that stuff?
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/TSToy.jpg
Wow, Your 3D skills are legendary.
That is the best drawing you have done yet. The wall with the pegboard and
sawblades are particularly realistic! Good job!
On Feb 15, 3:17=A0pm, Granitebear <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? =A0I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. =A0What do you think. =A0I am just looking for some opinions or=
> ideas.
Sounds good to me, but you'd have to provide a fair bit of
customization as people will probably want to use different lifts,
plates, routers, etc.
JP
On Feb 15, 3:53=A0pm, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:55 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Engineered stone would be a better choice.. aka quartz.
> >There are plenty of slabs available, usually end-cuts and sink/cooktop
> >cut-outs.
> >The main reason eStone would be better, is that it holds a variety of
> >fasteners better, and can be machined to thinner dimensions while
> >staying very strong.
>
> >That kind of material makes for great router table tops.
>
> Do you know anyone who could make one to order? =A0<G>
I'll ask around..<G>
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:55 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Engineered stone would be a better choice.. aka quartz.
>There are plenty of slabs available, usually end-cuts and sink/cooktop
>cut-outs.
>The main reason eStone would be better, is that it holds a variety of
>fasteners better, and can be machined to thinner dimensions while
>staying very strong.
>
>That kind of material makes for great router table tops.
Do you know anyone who could make one to order? <G>
On Feb 15, 3:21=A0pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Granitebear wrote:
> > I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> > would you be interested in buying one? =A0I am thinking that they would
> > be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> > iron tops. =A0What do you think. =A0I am just looking for some opinions =
or
> > ideas.
>
> Seems like this was just raised no too long ago???
>
> I have two thoughts, both tending towards the negative--cost would
> likely be moderately high and the material is brittle for the application.=
>
> --
That is why Hanstone, Cambria, Silestone all would be better suited
than granite...no brittleness there.
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:17:18 -0800 (PST), Granitebear
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
>would you be interested in buying one? I am thinking that they would
>be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
>iron tops. What do you think. I am just looking for some opinions or
>ideas.
Steel City has been marketing table saws with granite tops, using the
same logic as yours.
You'd have to account for some way(s) to attach fixtures
(featherboards, etc.)
On Feb 15, 7:32=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doesn't really seem worth the effort. If the only advantage is rust
> and sag then I'd say no. If you are having a sag problem you can just
> build a torsion box or double up some 3/4 MDF and add a few cross
> braces. Also, the stone has disadvantages. I suppose the slot would
> wear after a while, so you need to figure how to mount a track anyway.
> If you want to add some custome fence, you won't have an easy time
> cutting a new slot or two. If you wnat to customize the router plate
> hol or add a hole and counter bore for a lift screw, not so easy. Not
> sure really how slick stone would be, even when polished. I would much
> prefer an easily replacable, cheap, slick, and customizable laminate
> top. Sounds like a solution looking for a problem.
>
I don't foresee the need of a track. This top is slicker than anything
else and flat.
To each his own, I guess.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/TSToy.jpg
On Feb 15, 3:17=A0pm, Granitebear <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? =A0I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. =A0What do you think. =A0I am just looking for some opinions or=
> ideas.
Engineered stone would be a better choice.. aka quartz.
There are plenty of slabs available, usually end-cuts and sink/cooktop
cut-outs.
The main reason eStone would be better, is that it holds a variety of
fasteners better, and can be machined to thinner dimensions while
staying very strong.
That kind of material makes for great router table tops.
On Feb 16, 8:33=A0am, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:12:56 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Would 17 x 26, or sometimes 18 x 28 be a good size? They'd run from 55
> >- 70 pounds. Minus the cut-out for the router body. The body has to be
> >brought up to a thinner spot than the customary 1.25" thickness.
> >God forbid I'd tempt anybody to use a router-bit extender.
> >Maybe a router plate would have to be used.. like a Lee Valley.
>
> An 18x28 would work for me, as my current 1-1/2" (2x3/4") MDF top is
> 20x30. =A0My plate is a Rousseau, which has been fine for 5 years. =A0The
> cutout for the plate has a 3/4" wide rabbet that the plate drops into.
>
> How do you cut and rout that stuff? =A0
With a 10 HP spindle, diamonds, and lots of water.
On Feb 15, 3:53=A0pm, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:28:55 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Engineered stone would be a better choice.. aka quartz.
> >There are plenty of slabs available, usually end-cuts and sink/cooktop
> >cut-outs.
> >The main reason eStone would be better, is that it holds a variety of
> >fasteners better, and can be machined to thinner dimensions while
> >staying very strong.
>
> >That kind of material makes for great router table tops.
>
> Do you know anyone who could make one to order? =A0<G>
Would 17 x 26, or sometimes 18 x 28 be a good size? They'd run from 55
- 70 pounds. Minus the cut-out for the router body. The body has to be
brought up to a thinner spot than the customary 1.25" thickness.
God forbid I'd tempt anybody to use a router-bit extender.
Maybe a router plate would have to be used.. like a Lee Valley.
On Feb 16, 2:47=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/TSToy.jpg
>
> Wow, Your 3D skills are legendary.
>
> That is the best drawing you have done yet. =A0The wall with the pegboard =
and
> sawblades are particularly realistic! Good job!
I had to poke all those holes, with an awl, (DigitalAwl V 2.0) A lot
of work.
The blades were SAWZcad version 14 for UNIX.
Oh... and thank you.
btw.. no comments on my skillls with BagCAD on the DC?
On Feb 15, 3:17 pm, Granitebear <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. What do you think. I am just looking for some opinions or
> ideas.
Better a shaper, with a motor designed specifically for
use with a thick top. That, or infill material for Spiers or Norris
pattern bench planes. Green parrot's wing agate would be
nifty looking, though costly -- assuming you actually care
about cost.
Note that unless wrung, really heavy, really flat block-shaped
things tend to glide across each other as if floating on air.
Doesn't really seem worth the effort. If the only advantage is rust
and sag then I'd say no. If you are having a sag problem you can just
build a torsion box or double up some 3/4 MDF and add a few cross
braces. Also, the stone has disadvantages. I suppose the slot would
wear after a while, so you need to figure how to mount a track anyway.
If you want to add some custome fence, you won't have an easy time
cutting a new slot or two. If you wnat to customize the router plate
hol or add a hole and counter bore for a lift screw, not so easy. Not
sure really how slick stone would be, even when polished. I would much
prefer an easily replacable, cheap, slick, and customizable laminate
top. Sounds like a solution looking for a problem.
On Feb 15, 12:17=A0pm, Granitebear <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? =A0I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. =A0What do you think. =A0I am just looking for some opinions or=
> ideas.
Granitebear wrote:
> I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. What do you think. I am just looking for some opinions or
> ideas.
Seems like this was just raised no too long ago???
I have two thoughts, both tending towards the negative--cost would
likely be moderately high and the material is brittle for the application.
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"Granitebear" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I am curious, if some one were to manufcture granite router table tops
> would you be interested in buying one? I am thinking that they would
> be the perfect material, so sag like MDF tops and no rust like cast
> iron tops. What do you think. I am just looking for some opinions or
> ideas.
>
What about using corian?
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:33:56 -0800 (PST), Hoosierpopi
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Why not Google the manufactures sites for local vendors and ask a
>couple of them.
It was kind of an inside joke. <G>
"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:12:56 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Would 17 x 26, or sometimes 18 x 28 be a good size? They'd run from 55
>>- 70 pounds. Minus the cut-out for the router body. The body has to be
>>brought up to a thinner spot than the customary 1.25" thickness.
>>God forbid I'd tempt anybody to use a router-bit extender.
>>Maybe a router plate would have to be used.. like a Lee Valley.
>
>
> An 18x28 would work for me, as my current 1-1/2" (2x3/4") MDF top is
> 20x30. My plate is a Rousseau, which has been fine for 5 years. The
> cutout for the plate has a 3/4" wide rabbet that the plate drops into.
>
> How do you cut and rout that stuff?
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Jay Pique <[email protected]> writes:
> Sounds good to me, but you'd have to provide a fair bit of
> customization as people will probably want to use different lifts,
> plates, routers, etc.
Miter slot, ....
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