Who is the manufacturer of the "tung" oil/ poly finish that DJM so proudly
slathers on everything?
I would recognize (back of) the can if I ever saw it, but I've never seen
anything remotely resembling it in a woodworking store. It is supposedly
"commercially available".
Although I usually use a "sam maloof" type mixture for those applications, I
am mildly interested because I have been archiving DJM's show off DVR onto
DVD and have seen the (back of) can a number of times here lately.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Who is the manufacturer of the "tung" oil/ poly finish that DJM so proudly
> slathers on everything?
>
> I would recognize (back of) the can if I ever saw it, but I've never seen
> anything remotely resembling it in a woodworking store. It is supposedly
> "commercially available".
>
> Although I usually use a "sam maloof" type mixture for those applications,
I
> am mildly interested because I have been archiving DJM's show off DVR onto
> DVD and have seen the (back of) can a number of times here lately.
>
Odds are it's OEM from someone's factory with a supplier label.
"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
> Oh good grief...
>
> It isn't. And it's not like he's keeping it a secret either:
>
http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/What_is_the_mix_ratio_for_the_Linseed_Oil_Tung_Oil_and_Urethane_46687.asp
Thanks ... as I've yet to hear him mention the application of two different
products/finishes, that clears up the mystery of how he gets that consistent
appearance from piece- to-piece with his proverbial "4 or 5 coats of tung
oil" or "hand rubbed oil finish" that he repeats like a mantra at the end of
most segments.
I've bought General Finishes products, but have not used the clear Arm R
Seal and did not recognize the back of the can I've seen in some segments
(he usually has it in a jar) as a GF product.
I wonder if Arm R Seal holds up its appearance over the years better than
what I consider a more traditional "hand rubbed oil finish", a la the sam
maloof type, which tends to dull over time unless reapplied periodically?
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"Lee DeRaud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:47:30 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I've bought General Finishes products, but have not used the clear Arm R
>>Seal and did not recognize the back of the can I've seen in some segments
>>(he usually has it in a jar) as a GF product.
>
> I've been using the Prelude line for years and been quite happy with
> it...turns out it's a GF product also. Don't know when it happened,
> but either (1) GF stopped making it, (2) they can't sell it in
> California anymore (which has happened with many other products), or
> (3) Rockler just quit carrying it. We'll see how this "new" stuff
> works.
I started using Prelude in 1978 and progressed to Bartleys and several years
ago started using General Finishes. I too was un aware that GF make the
Prelude line of finishes until a few years age. At that time the GF web
side listed Prelude, however it does not now.
http://www.generalfinishes.com/index.htm
On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:47:30 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've bought General Finishes products, but have not used the clear Arm R
>Seal and did not recognize the back of the can I've seen in some segments
>(he usually has it in a jar) as a GF product.
I've been using the Prelude line for years and been quite happy with
it...turns out it's a GF product also. Don't know when it happened,
but either (1) GF stopped making it, (2) they can't sell it in
California anymore (which has happened with many other products), or
(3) Rockler just quit carrying it. We'll see how this "new" stuff
works.
Lee
On Sun, 29 May 2005 14:57:21 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Who is the manufacturer of the "tung" oil/ poly finish that DJM so proudly
>slathers on everything?
>
>I would recognize (back of) the can if I ever saw it, but I've never seen
>anything remotely resembling it in a woodworking store. It is supposedly
>"commercially available".
>
>Although I usually use a "sam maloof" type mixture for those applications, I
>am mildly interested because I have been archiving DJM's show off DVR onto
>DVD and have seen the (back of) can a number of times here lately.
http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/What_is_the_mix_ratio_for_the_Linseed_Oil_Tung_Oil_and_Urethane_46687.asp
Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)
On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:47:30 -0500, the inscrutable "Swingman"
<[email protected]> spake:
>"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
>
>> Oh good grief...
>>
>> It isn't. And it's not like he's keeping it a secret either:
>>
>http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/What_is_the_mix_ratio_for_the_Linseed_Oil_Tung_Oil_and_Urethane_46687.asp
>
>Thanks ... as I've yet to hear him mention the application of two different
>products/finishes, that clears up the mystery of how he gets that consistent
>appearance from piece- to-piece with his proverbial "4 or 5 coats of tung
>oil" or "hand rubbed oil finish" that he repeats like a mantra at the end of
>most segments.
>
>I've bought General Finishes products, but have not used the clear Arm R
>Seal and did not recognize the back of the can I've seen in some segments
>(he usually has it in a jar) as a GF product.
>
>I wonder if Arm R Seal holds up its appearance over the years better than
>what I consider a more traditional "hand rubbed oil finish", a la the sam
>maloof type, which tends to dull over time unless reapplied periodically?
My froe handle has 4 coats of Waterlox on it. It looks the same now as
it did 5 years ago when I built it. (4 or 5 uses plus bouncing around
in the shop for half a decade. ;)
"Protection" is highly overrated (a buzzword) and 95% of your projects
will never need anything nearly as tough as a poly/urethane (plastic)
finish. Improperly applied (as most poly is) it looks like the piece
has been wrapped in Saran.
--
If you turn the United States on its side,
everything loose will fall to California.
--Frank Lloyd Wright
On Sun, 29 May 2005 22:08:19 GMT, "Mike S." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>The following is from DJ Marks website under faqs.
>-----------------------
>I have tried various methods of mixing linseed oil and tung oil in the past,
>but since the mid 80's I've been using a product called Seal-A-Cell and
>Arm-R-Seal made by the General Finishes Company and available through mail
>order as well as from Woodcraft.
Rockler has it also.
Lee
On Sun, 29 May 2005 19:27:28 -0700, Lee DeRaud
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Oh good grief...
Do you know what this means---> <G> ?
It was a joke...
Barry
I don't remember off hand. If you go to Davids part of the DIY website, you
can find out. It's in the FAQ.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who is the manufacturer of the "tung" oil/ poly finish that DJM so proudly
> slathers on everything?
>
> I would recognize (back of) the can if I ever saw it, but I've never seen
> anything remotely resembling it in a woodworking store. It is supposedly
> "commercially available".
>
> Although I usually use a "sam maloof" type mixture for those applications,
I
> am mildly interested because I have been archiving DJM's show off DVR onto
> DVD and have seen the (back of) can a number of times here lately.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 5/14/05
>
>
The following is from DJ Marks website under faqs.
-----------------------
I have tried various methods of mixing linseed oil and tung oil in the past,
but since the mid 80's I've been using a product called Seal-A-Cell and
Arm-R-Seal made by the General Finishes Company and available through mail
order as well as from Woodcraft.
Since doing the first six seasons of Woodworks, this finish has been
improved and no longer has the make-up stated in the show. I use two
products starting with a sealer and finishing with a top coat. Company
representatives state the sealer (which is clear but also available in
different colored stains) is a blend of modified linseed oil, oil modified
urethane, and alkyd resin, and dryers. The topcoat I use is called
Arm-R-Seal and is now an oil modified urethane with dryers. The Arm-R-Seal
is available in gloss, semi gloss, and satin.
-----------------------
--
Mike S.
[email protected]
http://members.tripod.com/n0yii/woodworking.htm
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who is the manufacturer of the "tung" oil/ poly finish that DJM so proudly
> slathers on everything?
>
> I would recognize (back of) the can if I ever saw it, but I've never seen
> anything remotely resembling it in a woodworking store. It is supposedly
> "commercially available".
>
> Although I usually use a "sam maloof" type mixture for those applications,
> I
> am mildly interested because I have been archiving DJM's show off DVR onto
> DVD and have seen the (back of) can a number of times here lately.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 5/14/05
>
>
On Sun, 29 May 2005 23:44:29 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 May 2005 16:19:21 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:
>
>>Odds are it's OEM from someone's factory with a supplier label.
>
>Imagine if it's Minwax? <G>
Oh good grief...
It isn't. And it's not like he's keeping it a secret either:
http://www.djmarks.com/stories/faq/What_is_the_mix_ratio_for_the_Linseed_Oil_Tung_Oil_and_Urethane_46687.asp
Lee
Looks exactly like the back label of a General Finishes can. IIRC it has
been mentioned that when he buys the product it the General Finishes brand.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who is the manufacturer of the "tung" oil/ poly finish that DJM so proudly
> slathers on everything?
>
> I would recognize (back of) the can if I ever saw it, but I've never seen
> anything remotely resembling it in a woodworking store. It is supposedly
> "commercially available".
>
> Although I usually use a "sam maloof" type mixture for those applications,
> I
> am mildly interested because I have been archiving DJM's show off DVR onto
> DVD and have seen the (back of) can a number of times here lately.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 5/14/05
>
>