Wha' Happen? I have nearly finished a nice Cherry Arts & Craft Coffee
Table. The table top was finished with two coats of Tried & True Danish Oil
with each coat curing for two days. Then added four more coats of T&T
Varnish Oil to provide some additional protection to the surface, again
allowing two days between coats. I did as instructed and wiped the surface
COMPLETELY dry after being absorbed for the recommended time. It was
beginning to look pretty good when I decided that I should let it "age" a
bit before presenting it to SWMBO. So I moved it to the porch in nice
bright South Carolina sunshine. I thought a few hours might bring out the
better qualities of Cherry.
I took a look at it after about 30 minutes and WOW. There were puddles of
oil setting on the surface! It was really bleeding. I wiped it down and
decided to just let it sit there in the sun to what would happen. I had
thought that the oil would have cured in wood by now and there should have
been no bleeding. I have continued to wipe it down every half hour or so.
It is beginning to look better now but not sure what happened.
Have I ruined it? Should I have waited longer (1 week or month) before
trying to darken the wood? Is this something I can expect from other oil
products or is it specific to T&T? I will take the table top back to the
shop in a few more minutes (it's still on the porch) and let it sit for
another day or so. Then I have to decide if I need to plane, scrape and
sand before starting all over.
I really like T&T products and hope I can figure out the proper way to use
them. I have built a few other tables using the products but never put them
in direct sunlight. Being able to practically drink the stuff is a big plus
in my book. The lack of strong odor is another plus.
Any help from the finishing experts would be appreciated.
Ron
I always put my T&T on hot (140 degrees +), both the BLO and the varnish
oil. Rub it in, wipe it off, wipe again. I haven't had any bleed back.
--
Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wha' Happen? I have nearly finished a nice Cherry Arts & Craft Coffee
> Table. The table top was finished with two coats of Tried & True Danish
Oil
> with each coat curing for two days. Then added four more coats of T&T
> Varnish Oil to provide some additional protection to the surface, again
> allowing two days between coats. I did as instructed and wiped the
surface
> COMPLETELY dry after being absorbed for the recommended time. It was
> beginning to look pretty good when I decided that I should let it "age" a
> bit before presenting it to SWMBO. So I moved it to the porch in nice
> bright South Carolina sunshine. I thought a few hours might bring out
the
> better qualities of Cherry.
>
> I took a look at it after about 30 minutes and WOW. There were puddles of
> oil setting on the surface! It was really bleeding. I wiped it down and
> decided to just let it sit there in the sun to what would happen. I had
> thought that the oil would have cured in wood by now and there should have
> been no bleeding. I have continued to wipe it down every half hour or so.
> It is beginning to look better now but not sure what happened.
>
> Have I ruined it? Should I have waited longer (1 week or month) before
> trying to darken the wood? Is this something I can expect from other oil
> products or is it specific to T&T? I will take the table top back to the
> shop in a few more minutes (it's still on the porch) and let it sit for
> another day or so. Then I have to decide if I need to plane, scrape and
> sand before starting all over.
>
> I really like T&T products and hope I can figure out the proper way to use
> them. I have built a few other tables using the products but never put
them
> in direct sunlight. Being able to practically drink the stuff is a big
plus
> in my book. The lack of strong odor is another plus.
>
> Any help from the finishing experts would be appreciated.
>
> Ron
>
>
Agreed, but I wouldn't leave it in the sun for long. You would have done
better to expose the naked wood before finishing. After several hours of
southern sun, you'd need to wipe me down too. Bear in mind that the varnish
will set in a few hours and mostly cure in a week, but the oil will slowly
cure over a longer period of time, even with the additives. The only danger
now is if it forms "scabs" of oil on the surface, so keep an eye on it for a
few days.
GerryG
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:08:29 -0700, Fly-by-Night CC <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I took a look at it after about 30 minutes and WOW. There were puddles of
>> oil setting on the surface! It was really bleeding. I wiped it down and
>> decided to just let it sit there in the sun to what would happen. I had
>> thought that the oil would have cured in wood by now and there should have
>> been no bleeding. I have continued to wipe it down every half hour or so.
>> It is beginning to look better now but not sure what happened.
>>
>> Have I ruined it? Should I have waited longer (1 week or month) before
>> trying to darken the wood? Is this something I can expect from other oil
>> products or is it specific to T&T? I will take the table top back to the
>> shop in a few more minutes (it's still on the porch) and let it sit for
>> another day or so. Then I have to decide if I need to plane, scrape and
>> sand before starting all over.
>
>No you didn't ruin it - what you're seeing is merely uncured oil
>expanding/squeezing out of the wood pores with the solar heat. You're
>doing right by wiping it off regularly and no harm will come of your
>work - just keep checking and wiping off any bleeding. No need to plane,
>scrape or anything else as long as you monitor the situation and remove
>the bleedback. This happens with most (all?) oils and your experience is
>standard operating proceedure - apply, wipe, wipe, wipe.
>
>The wood will darken naturally over time just existing in your living
>space but direct sun exposure certainly won't harm it as long as you've
>taken natural wood shrinkage/expansion into account.
>
>I *want* to like T&T varnish oil- (I *do* like the smell and non-toxic
>qualities) but I've not had very good success with timely curing.
>Instructions and advice says to keep application to an absolute minimum
>with curing in a matter of days, but I've experienced weeks of
>non-curing. Guess I'm still putting on too much.
It should also be noted that, if T & T's advertisements are to be believed
and I have no reason to doubt they can be, their finish contains no metallic
dryers which means curing is going to be much slower and environmentally
affected then the more common off the shelf oil finishes.
--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
[email protected]
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Gerry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Agreed, but I wouldn't leave it in the sun for long. You would have done
> better to expose the naked wood before finishing. After several hours of
> southern sun, you'd need to wipe me down too. Bear in mind that the
varnish
> will set in a few hours and mostly cure in a week, but the oil will slowly
> cure over a longer period of time, even with the additives. The only
danger
> now is if it forms "scabs" of oil on the surface, so keep an eye on it for
a
> few days.
> GerryG
>
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:08:29 -0700, Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I took a look at it after about 30 minutes and WOW. There were puddles
of
> >> oil setting on the surface! It was really bleeding. I wiped it down
and
> >> decided to just let it sit there in the sun to what would happen. I
had
> >> thought that the oil would have cured in wood by now and there should
have
> >> been no bleeding. I have continued to wipe it down every half hour or
so.
> >> It is beginning to look better now but not sure what happened.
> >>
> >> Have I ruined it? Should I have waited longer (1 week or month) before
> >> trying to darken the wood? Is this something I can expect from other
oil
> >> products or is it specific to T&T? I will take the table top back to
the
> >> shop in a few more minutes (it's still on the porch) and let it sit for
> >> another day or so. Then I have to decide if I need to plane, scrape an
d
> >> sand before starting all over.
> >
> >No you didn't ruin it - what you're seeing is merely uncured oil
> >expanding/squeezing out of the wood pores with the solar heat. You're
> >doing right by wiping it off regularly and no harm will come of your
> >work - just keep checking and wiping off any bleeding. No need to plane,
> >scrape or anything else as long as you monitor the situation and remove
> >the bleedback. This happens with most (all?) oils and your experience is
> >standard operating proceedure - apply, wipe, wipe, wipe.
> >
> >The wood will darken naturally over time just existing in your living
> >space but direct sun exposure certainly won't harm it as long as you've
> >taken natural wood shrinkage/expansion into account.
> >
> >I *want* to like T&T varnish oil- (I *do* like the smell and non-toxic
> >qualities) but I've not had very good success with timely curing.
> >Instructions and advice says to keep application to an absolute minimum
> >with curing in a matter of days, but I've experienced weeks of
> >non-curing. Guess I'm still putting on too much.
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I took a look at it after about 30 minutes and WOW. There were puddles of
> oil setting on the surface! It was really bleeding. I wiped it down and
> decided to just let it sit there in the sun to what would happen. I had
> thought that the oil would have cured in wood by now and there should have
> been no bleeding. I have continued to wipe it down every half hour or so.
> It is beginning to look better now but not sure what happened.
>
> Have I ruined it? Should I have waited longer (1 week or month) before
> trying to darken the wood? Is this something I can expect from other oil
> products or is it specific to T&T? I will take the table top back to the
> shop in a few more minutes (it's still on the porch) and let it sit for
> another day or so. Then I have to decide if I need to plane, scrape and
> sand before starting all over.
No you didn't ruin it - what you're seeing is merely uncured oil
expanding/squeezing out of the wood pores with the solar heat. You're
doing right by wiping it off regularly and no harm will come of your
work - just keep checking and wiping off any bleeding. No need to plane,
scrape or anything else as long as you monitor the situation and remove
the bleedback. This happens with most (all?) oils and your experience is
standard operating proceedure - apply, wipe, wipe, wipe.
The wood will darken naturally over time just existing in your living
space but direct sun exposure certainly won't harm it as long as you've
taken natural wood shrinkage/expansion into account.
I *want* to like T&T varnish oil- (I *do* like the smell and non-toxic
qualities) but I've not had very good success with timely curing.
Instructions and advice says to keep application to an absolute minimum
with curing in a matter of days, but I've experienced weeks of
non-curing. Guess I'm still putting on too much.
--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>