wW

[email protected] (WARRENRN1)

06/11/2003 1:21 AM

different saws

SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
choice ??????


This topic has 43 replies

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 9:58 AM

>what would be the better choice ??????


Spend your money on something useful and rent the
reciprocating saw as needed.

UA100

JT

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

05/11/2003 9:21 PM

Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 1:21am (EST+5) [email protected] (WARRENRN1) claims:
<snip>=A0OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 <snip>

Could you give details on reboring a 305 to 350?


JOAT
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[email protected] (WARRENRN1)

in reply to [email protected] (T.) on 05/11/2003 9:21 PM

07/11/2003 10:15 PM

> Could you give details on reboring a 305 to 350?

i could be wrong on the numbers.... it is a california factory that rebores
the engine block.... from what i understand, per my son who is doing the
rebuilding.... they take a stock engine and rebore it to have the power of a
350... as there is only so much room inside the engine compartment... and it
won't accommodate the physical larger engine size...
it is a sweet looking engine... all chrome and brushed aluminum....

JT

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 07/11/2003 10:15 PM

07/11/2003 10:33 PM

Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 10:15pm (EST+5) [email protected] (WARRENRN1) says:
i could be wrong on the numbers.... it is a california factory that
rebores the engine block.... from what i understand, per my son who is
doing the rebuilding.... they take a stock engine and rebore it to have
the power of a
350...

Ah. Then no, it isn't 350 cubes.

as there is only so much room inside the engine compartment... and it
won't accommodate the physical larger engine size...

You'd be surprised at what you can get an engine in, if you really
work at it. http://britishv8.org/swaps/

You could fit a big block in an '87, without a lot of problems.
But, the 305 and 350 engines (small block) are the same size, and swap
easily. You coulda had a 350. LOL

it is a sweet looking engine... all chrome and brushed aluminum....

I saw the picture. Pretty.

My son's got the engine I originally built up for the Luv - 420 HP.
Now he's probably got the fastest 4X4 truck in the country. LOL

JOAT
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from human beings as possible.

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"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 07/11/2003 10:15 PM

10/11/2003 7:06 PM


"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 10:15pm (EST+5) [email protected] (WARRENRN1) says:
> i could be wrong on the numbers.... it is a california factory that
> rebores the engine block.... from what i understand, per my son who is
> doing the rebuilding.... they take a stock engine and rebore it to have
> the power of a
> 350...
>
> Ah. Then no, it isn't 350 cubes.
>
> as there is only so much room inside the engine compartment... and it
> won't accommodate the physical larger engine size...


All small block Chevy's will interchange as far as mounts and transmissions
are concerned. There are some variations in intake and exhaust manufolds,
but the basic outside dimensions are the same.
I have a 305 in my Chevy and if it dies I will most likely drop in a new GM
350 engine. I will need larger injectors and a rdifferant chip, but I have a
buddy that works at a dealership! All parts 10% over cost!
Greg

JT

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

07/11/2003 4:54 PM

I would still like to know how you get a 305 out to a 350.

JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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wW

[email protected] (WARRENRN1)

in reply to [email protected] (T.) on 07/11/2003 4:54 PM

07/11/2003 10:22 PM

> I would still like to know how you get a 305 out to a 350.

305 to a 350..... semantics...semantics....like i said...i don't play with the
cars...

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 2:26 AM

warrenrn1 asks:

>SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
>reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
>dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
>them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's
>car....

Just to make your job easier, also consider Bosch and Milwaukee, both
excellent.

Charlie Self

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
Thomas J. Watson















gG

[email protected] (GTO69RA4)

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 2:38 AM

One thing to consider in a reciprocating saw is how it's built, not just how
powerful or easy to use it is.

I have a recent PC Tiger Saw (model 738, non-orbital) right now. The guides
that keep the ram from rotating are undersized and wore out. The mechanism that
supports the ram bearings takes the other orbiting models into account. It's
kind of weak and it now worn. The main ram bearings themselves also became
quite sloppy. The wobble plate/ram joint also is getting worn.

I also had a Makita JR3000V. Simple, good design in many regards, but the
anti-rotation guides were plain alumnium and wore out. Kinda underpowered and
rough, too.

I seem to recall that the newer DeWalt models have different designs to help
counteract some of these problems. The Bosch Panther saw also has an excellent
internal design, although I've heard some have gear trouble.

Anyway, I'm getting rid of the PC saw because I just bought a used Milwaukee
Super Sawzall. Milwaukee invented the modern reciprocating saw years ago, and I
think it's still the best overall. The standard Sawzall is a very simple,
reliable design. The Super Sawzall takes it one step futher and adds a
counterweight to balance out the action. Only saw to have that feature.
Rotational forces are absorbed in a different way from saws like the PC, too.

Any, I'd probably say get a Super Sawzall if you're looking for the best, then
maybe an original Sawzall or DeWalt. The PC is also a great big, powerful saw,
but I wouldn't recommend it for daily use.

By the way. You ever notice how most builders usually have mostly recent tools,
with a few old ones knocking around? Along with Skil wormdrives, Bosch jigsaws,
PC belt sanders, etc, one of the oldies is usually a Milwaukee Sawzall, still
getting hard use after years.

GTO(John)

>SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
>reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
>dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
>them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's
>car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
>charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
>topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
>choice ??????

gG

[email protected] (GTO69RA4)

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 2:39 AM

I forgot to mention, the Ridgid has a large component of Ryobi design in it.

GTO(John)

Nn

Nova

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 1:47 AM

WARRENRN1 wrote:

> SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
> reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
> dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
> them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
> charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
> topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
> choice ??????

My choice would be either the Milwaukee Sawzall or the DeWalt DW309K. I have the
DeWalt, my neighbor has the Milwaukee. We used both during a rebuild of a porch.
The DeWalt cuts faster due to the 1.25" stroke verses the .75" stroke of the
Milwaukee. Sometimes the longer stroke works better, sometimes it's a
disadvantage.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

05/11/2003 11:45 PM

WARRENRN1 wrote:

> dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any

> topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the
> better choice ??????

No idea about the other two. Dad has the PC, and it'll chew through just
about anything with ease.

--
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Mark

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

07/11/2003 3:29 AM



Charles Krug wrote:

> Milwaulkee Super Sawzall. ..... I've had ZERO regrets.
>


Same here. I got the Milwaukee Orbital Super SawZall.

It's allowed me to put off buying a chain saw for tree pruning and limb
maintenance.



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Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

BG

"Bob Gramza"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 1:32 AM


"WARRENRN1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
: reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
: dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
: them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
: OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
: charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
: topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
: choice ??????

I have the Porter Cable tiger saw. Variable speed, quick change blade. Works great.

BG

"Bob G"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

11/11/2003 2:02 PM



> I would too. Though it is possible, I belive the cylinder walls are too
thin
> on the 305 to over-bore to a 350.
> Greg

===================
Honestly you may have top increase the stroke ...quite normal to see a bunch
of 383's (stroked 350's) every Saturday night at the local cruise in.. done
with a stanrard 30 over bore and increasing the stroke...

Never played with a 305 but off hand I would assume the absolute max over
bore would be 60. But I do know a lot of guys raced 350's destroked to 305
to meet class
rules in SCCA racing years ago...

Bob Griffiths



CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

07/11/2003 3:09 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> It's *NO*JOKE*. Part of the introduction of their new line, is
> lifetime warranty -- *including* things normally considered consumables
> like _batteries_ -- for tools purchased *before* Dec 23.
>
> If one is contemplating purchase of any cordless tools, it's a H*LL of a
> good reason to by Ridgid, before Christmas.

Unfortunately, the warranty IS a joke.

Search the archives of the group...someone here has already researched
the warranty, talked to the dealers and it is for the "life of the tool".
Not the life of YOU.

This is _nothing_ like the lifetime warranty on Craftsman hand tools.
Who decides what the life of the tool is? Rigid does. IIRC, it also
excludes normal wear and tear...so when it wear out...then the life of
the tool is over. No repair or replacement - the warranty is over.

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"Bob G"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 1:20 PM


I have had a Milwaukee saw in the shop for well over 30 years and it keeps
on ticken...lol....

And your son would be more then welcome in my garage
anytime... although starting with a 305 is a little hard to
understand... lol

anyhow... The Exhaust Tool Company (Gaithersburg Md) manufactures a tool
(great name here..."The Exhaust tool") which will makes seperating exhaust
pipes and mufflers ..even rusted to hell ones or spot welded ones
a simple and "clean" chore... Since I purchased one a few years ago I have
not fired up my compressor and pulled out the cut off tool a single time...

Bob Griffiths
68 SS 396 Chevelle ( 2, 4 barrels..Brodex heads, reverse valve body
trans, line locks, fuel cell, roll cage, electric fuel pump and fans, no
wipers, no radio, ..you get the picture...
64 Corvette ..L 76 365 Hp Rag top 4 sp
72 Corvette (ZZ4 powered) Rag top 4 sp
76 Corvette L 48 Coupe 4 sp both sets of tops
79 Corvette L 82 Coupe (auto) glass top only
95 Corvette LT1 Coupe 6 sp both sets of tops

BUT I haul my lumber in a "little" Dodge Dakota ... lol

CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 3:47 AM

Jack Kerouac wrote:
> ridgid's are guaranteed for life now. It's worth a shot.

stop joking around...

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John McCoy

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 4:52 PM

[email protected] (WARRENRN1) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
> reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted
> down dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince
> with any of them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping
> working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
> charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
> topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the
> better choice ??????

For that kind of power, something with a more sophisticated
chassis and suspension than the Monte would be a better choice.
Something with better brakes, too :-)

For cutting tubing to fabricate headers & collectors, I'd
probably go with an angle grinder in preference to a recip
saw.

John

wW

[email protected] (WARRENRN1)

in reply to John McCoy on 06/11/2003 4:52 PM

07/11/2003 10:20 PM

>For that kind of power, something with a more sophisticated
>chassis and suspension than the Monte would be a better choice.
>Something with better brakes, too

boys and their toys.... personally i spend my change on tools .... besides,
SWMBO wouldn't let me take of the garage to work on cars... i have the
basment all to myself.....

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 7:43 PM

I have the PC Tiger Saw and it works great. The only thing I don't
like about it is the weight, about 9 pounds. This gets really heavy
when working overhead for extended periods of time. If anything
happened to it I'd give the Sawzall a serious looking at (7 lbs).

Art

"WARRENRN1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
> reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
> dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
> them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
> charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
> topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
> choice ??????

ss

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

07/11/2003 12:49 AM

On 06 Nov 2003 01:21:58 GMT, [email protected] (WARRENRN1) wrote:

>SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
>reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
>dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
>them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
>charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
>topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
>choice ??????

Milwaukee. you will never have to worry about getting another. just
MHO. skeez

JT

in reply to "[email protected]" on 07/11/2003 12:49 AM

06/11/2003 8:53 PM

Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 12:49am (EST+5) [email protected] says:
Milwaukee. you will never have to worry about getting another. just MHO.

HA. Sound like you don't have kids then. I've got two, boys and,
saws. One saw, I haven't seen in about 2 years. It went with the
younger son to work on a friend's vehicle, and now it's, 'I don't know
what happened to it'. Aanother saw ain't good for much of anything
anymore. I just feel fortunate I don't need one often. Damn kids.


JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 6 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

ss

in reply to "[email protected]" on 07/11/2003 12:49 AM

07/11/2003 9:37 PM

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:53:38 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (T.)
wrote:

>Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 12:49am (EST+5) [email protected] says:
>Milwaukee. you will never have to worry about getting another. just MHO.
>
> HA. Sound like you don't have kids then. I've got two, boys and,
>saws. One saw, I haven't seen in about 2 years. It went with the
>younger son to work on a friend's vehicle, and now it's, 'I don't know
>what happened to it'. Aanother saw ain't good for much of anything
>anymore. I just feel fortunate I don't need one often. Damn kids.
>
>
>JOAT
>My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
>from human beings as possible.
>
>Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
>Web Page Update 6 Nov 2003.
>Some tunes I like.
>http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

HI JOAT. that wil l teach ya ta have them little rugrats! im a firm
believer that we should eat our young before they get old enough to
use our tools! lol. what i meant to say was if you dont LOSE it you
will never need another. even those evil younguns wont be able to kill
it. ive got one thats 25 years old and has cut more stuff than you can
imagine. i use it professionaly so it gets some abuse but just keeps
on working. BTW did your boy ever get those outboards runnin? yeh its
me. ;-] skeez

JT

in reply to "[email protected]" on 07/11/2003 9:37 PM

07/11/2003 10:18 PM

Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 9:37pm (EST+5) [email protected] says:
<snip> im a firm believer that we should eat our young before they get
old enough to use our tools! <snip>

Bill Cosby says all children are born brain damaged, and remain
that way until they're 21. I'm a believer.

BTW did your boy ever get those outboards runnin? yeh its me. ;-] =A0
=A0 =A0 =A0

Surely you jest. If I can't get two of them to do about 4 hours
worth of work getting the 350 in my Luv hooked up, so I can get it on
the street, no way I can get one to work on an outboard. Damn kids.

JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 7 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

ss

in reply to "[email protected]" on 07/11/2003 9:37 PM

08/11/2003 4:38 PM

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:18:49 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (T.)
wrote:

> Bill Cosby says all children are born brain damaged, and remain
>that way until they're 21. I'm a believer.
>
Mine was born knowing everything BUT he is forgeting fast! lol.

>BTW did your boy ever get those outboards runnin? yeh its me. ;-]  
>     
>
> Surely you jest. If I can't get two of them to do about 4 hours
>worth of work getting the 350 in my Luv hooked up, so I can get it on
>the street, no way I can get one to work on an outboard. Damn kids.
>
ya can,t teach em nuttin huh? they will however learn but
unfortunately it may be later rather than sooner. take care.
skeez

>JOAT
>My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
>from human beings as possible.
>
good luck. if it works send me the recipe.

>Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
>Web Page Update 7 Nov 2003.
>Some tunes I like.
>http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

Me

"MSgeek"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 5:25 AM

Hitachi! Best value for the money.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> WARRENRN1 wrote:
>
> > dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with
any
>
> > topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the
> > better choice ??????
>
> No idea about the other two. Dad has the PC, and it'll chew through just
> about anything with ease.
>
> --
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in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

10/11/2003 1:50 AM

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:54:52 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (T.)
wrote:

> I would still like to know how you get a 305 out to a 350.

With an engine crane ? Swapping sounds easier than boring

JT

in reply to Andy Dingley on 10/11/2003 1:50 AM

10/11/2003 3:34 AM

Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 1:50am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Andy=A0Dingley) asks:
With an engine crane ? =A0 Swapping sounds easier than boring

Well, you've got to pull an engine for a rebuild anyway. And,
anytime you get one rebuilt, you can just about count on getting it
bored out. But, it's physically impossible to rebore a 305 to a 350.
You could stroke it too, and maybe get it to 350, but you're starting to
talk serious money then. So better off just swapping in a 350. I've
got a 305 in my truck, but if it ever goes, and I keep the truck, I'll
get a 350. Just as cheap to hop up or rebuild, and more power from the
beginning.

JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

CK

Charles Krug

in reply to Andy Dingley on 10/11/2003 1:50 AM

10/11/2003 3:10 PM

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:34:37 -0500 (EST), T. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 1:50am (EST+5) [email protected]
> (Andy Dingley) asks:
> With an engine crane ?   Swapping sounds easier than boring
>
> Well, you've got to pull an engine for a rebuild anyway. And,
> anytime you get one rebuilt, you can just about count on getting it
> bored out. But, it's physically impossible to rebore a 305 to a 350.
> You could stroke it too, and maybe get it to 350, but you're starting to
> talk serious money then. So better off just swapping in a 350. I've
> got a 305 in my truck, but if it ever goes, and I keep the truck, I'll
> get a 350. Just as cheap to hop up or rebuild, and more power from the
> beginning.
>

Are you sure about that? I had a small-block Chevy enthusiast as a
coworker. I THOUGHT he'd told me that the small block could be bored as
big as 39-something or 40-something but with less water jacket it would
tend to overheat.

Sounded strange to me, and I may be misremember over the distance of
years.

wW

[email protected] (WARRENRN1)

in reply to Charles Krug on 10/11/2003 3:10 PM

10/11/2003 11:51 PM

>Are you sure about that? I had a small-block Chevy enthusiast as a
>coworker. I THOUGHT he'd told me that the small block could be bored as
>big as 39-something or 40-something but with less water jacket it would
>tend to overheat.

for some reason my son said thaey had to buy a small block 305... due to
configeration of the engine compartment.... i helped them put it in and it was
a bite... not very much clearance in the back.... he put an oversized
aluminum radiator in..., plus an oil cooler.... and when he took it to the
trans specialist, he also had another cooler put in for the trans...
i got to drive it.... almost too much power for me....notice the operative
word * ALMOST*..... it is a sweet machine.... only to be made better after
the body shop gets ahold of it..... he's thinking midnight metalic blue with a
clear coat and red or silver pin stripes on the side.... marroon interior....
now he is driving a ford 150 lightening svt... another sweet machine....

JT

in reply to Charles Krug on 10/11/2003 3:10 PM

10/11/2003 6:42 PM

Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 3:10pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Charles=A0Krug)
wants to know:
Are you sure about that? I had a small-block Chevy enthusiast as a
coworker. I THOUGHT he'd told me that the small block could be bored as
big as 39-something or 40-something but with less water jacket it would
tend to overheat.
Sounded strange to me, and I may be misremember over the distance of
years.

It's pretty standard to bore cylinders during a rebuild, usually
0.030", to clean them up, on a first rebore. My engine had some bad
cylinder walls, so even tho it had never been rebored, had to be taken
to 0.040". Max is usually 0.060", so should still have one rebore left
in it, which should be years away. Any more than 0.060" the cylinder
walls usually are too thin to be dependable on the street. Depends on
engine, make, etc., lots of variables. For example, one aluminum block
engine can only be safely rebored to 0.030", anything over that and you
need to put in new cylinder liners.

The water jacket is in the block, so any standard rebore won't
affect it. Any engine can overheat without adequate cooling. Could be
too small a radiiator, crud in the system, low on water, etc. Some drag
only engines fill the block water jacket with various types of filler.
Those engines are only run for seconds, or minutes, at a time tho.

JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 8 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Charles Krug on 10/11/2003 3:10 PM

11/11/2003 12:25 AM

WARRENRN1 wrote:

> for some reason my son said thaey had to buy a small block 305...
> due to configeration of the engine compartment.... i helped them put
> it in and it was a bite... not very much clearance in the back....
> he put an oversized aluminum radiator in..., plus an oil cooler....
> and when he took it to the trans specialist, he also had another
> cooler put in for the trans...
> i got to drive it.... almost too much power for me....notice the
> operative word * ALMOST*..... it is a sweet machine....

A fantasy of mine is to have my mom and/or SWMBO drive something like a
Viper souped up to 600 HP. Poor clutching technique becomes much more
apparent. <eg>

When my teenage son was learning to drive he functionally ignored my
warnings about HP getting away from him even on my bottom-of-the-line
automatic transmission Firebird. Then one rainy day, from stopped at a red
light he ended up diagonally across the intersection with the FB's nose in a
tree. Though the car has never been the same, no one was hurt and it was a
great lesson.

-- Mark


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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Mark Jerde" on 11/11/2003 12:25 AM

11/11/2003 10:53 AM

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:31:24 -0500 (EST), [email protected]
(T.) wrote:

> Always a mistake to turn a teen-age kid loose with a performance
>car. My idiot wanted to impress some other idiots, by doing a burn out.
>$400 to repair the trans. Then, as soon as it was repaired, blew up the
>converter. $400.

When I was a teenage kid, I had my own performance car, and my own
wrenches. My parents would always give me a lift down to the parts
place to get bits for it, and if I wanted to stick a piston through
the cylinder head (and damn near the bonnet/hood too !) then that was
just a valuable exercise in practical mechanics.

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

JT

in reply to "Mark Jerde" on 11/11/2003 12:25 AM

11/11/2003 3:31 AM

Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 12:25am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Mark=A0Jerde) says:
<snip> When my teenage son was learning to drive he functionally ignored
my warnings about HP getting away from him even on my bottom-of-the-line
automatic transmission Firebird. Then one rainy day <snip>

Always a mistake to turn a teen-age kid loose with a performance
car. My idiot wanted to impress some other idiots, by doing a burn out.
$400 to repair the trans. Then, as soon as it was repaired, blew up the
converter. $400.

JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 10 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Charles Krug on 10/11/2003 3:10 PM

11/11/2003 2:29 AM

T. wrote:

> It's pretty standard to bore cylinders during a rebuild, usually
> 0.030", to clean them up, on a first rebore. My engine had some bad

Of no particular relevance, but here's a thought... The truck I'm driving
still has never had a rebuild, and has more than 2,000,000 miles on the
engine and tranny.

I think when I can afford a replacement vehicle, I'm going to buy a pickup
truck, since the wife and kids never both ride with me in my car at the
same time anyway. When I do, I'm going to look hard at a Cummins, just
because of my experience with their heavy truck engines.

It's been a hell of a good truck. Can't hold its water very well, and it's
had three radiators, heater hoses, water pump pulleys, blown head gasket,
but that sum'bitch is still running great, and I'm going to run it until
something big wears in two. I've turned down must be a dozen trucks to
keep driving that thing.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

JT

in reply to Silvan on 11/11/2003 2:29 AM

11/11/2003 3:14 AM

Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 2:29am [email protected] (Silvan)
claims:
Of no particular relevance, but here's a thought... The truck I'm
driving still has never had a rebuild, and has more than 2,000,000 miles
on the engine and tranny.<snip>

2,000,000, eh? Let me know what make that is. I want one of
those.

JOAT
My aim is to get through life peacefully, with as little interferrnce
from human beings as possible.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 10 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

a

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 4:21 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
WARRENRN1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
>reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
>dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
>them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
>charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
>topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
>choice ??????

Sawzall, by Milwaukee should be at the head of the list

then dewalt or makita

then porter cable

then ridgid.

in my opinion, that is.

CK

Charles Krug

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 3:22 PM

On 06 Nov 2003 01:21:58 GMT, WARRENRN1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
> reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
> dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
> them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
> charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
> topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
> choice ??????

Milwaulkee Super Sawzall. The PC was my second choice when I bought it,
but I've had ZERO regrets.

If Bosch makes one, give it a look.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 2:10 AM

On 06 Nov 2003 01:21:58 GMT, [email protected] (WARRENRN1) wrote:

>SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
>reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
>dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any of
>them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
>charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
>topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the better
>choice ??????


I have the Milwaulkee SawzAll and it works great for demolition work.
The "Super Sawzall" has more power and larger in size. Both are very
well built. I expect it to last a lifetime.

JK

"Jack Kerouac"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 2:02 AM

ridgid's are guaranteed for life now. It's worth a shot. I have the DeWalt
and it suits me just fine.


"WARRENRN1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SWMBO asked for a xmas gift list and i am thinking about putting down
> reciprocating saw.... looking to spend about $100-125.... i jotted down
> dewalt, rigid, and porter cable.... any one have any expereince with any
of
> them ? i have used the dewalt before while helping working on my son's
car....
> OT... an '87 Monte Carlo SS 305 rebored to be a 350 with a super
> charger....550 to 650 HP....goes like a bat out of hell......back on
> topic....... used it to cut the exhaust system.... what would be the
better
> choice ??????

a

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

06/11/2003 4:18 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Chris Merrill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Jack Kerouac wrote:
>> ridgid's are guaranteed for life now. It's worth a shot.
>
>stop joking around...

It's *NO*JOKE*. Part of the introduction of their new line, is
lifetime warranty -- *including* things normally considered consumables
like _batteries_ -- for tools purchased *before* Dec 23.

If one is contemplating purchase of any cordless tools, it's a H*LL of a
good reason to by Ridgid, before Christmas.

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (WARRENRN1) on 06/11/2003 1:21 AM

10/11/2003 7:09 PM


"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would still like to know how you get a 305 out to a 350.
>
>

I would too. Though it is possible, I belive the cylinder walls are too thin
on the 305 to over-bore to a 350.
Greg


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