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"sal"

06/05/2012 9:17 AM

OT- Rabbits

Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
arms.

Sal


This topic has 60 replies

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 11:48 AM

On 5/7/2012 12:56 AM, Bob Martin wrote:
> in 1527308 20120506 154558 Gordon Shumway<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, "sal"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
>>> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
>>> arms.
>>>
>>> Sal
>>>
>> A good pellet gun works for me. Do you really care what your
>> neighbors think?
>
> The American way : if it moves shoot it.
> Can't you Yanks learn to live with wildlife?

Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit. AND man was given
dominion over the animals. The animals don't control US, WE control the
animals. Hello?

--
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remove the "not" from my address to email

Mm

Markem

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

09/05/2012 12:45 PM

On Mon, 07 May 2012 12:59:07 -0500, Steve Barker
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>>
>>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>>
>> Good logical reason.
>>
>>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>>
>> Pure bullshit.
>>
>
>might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>
>Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
>the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
>over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Do not following mythology the has been through the telephone game
through few thousands of years.

Mark

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

09/05/2012 6:14 PM

Markem wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2012 12:59:07 -0500, Steve Barker
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>>>
>>> Good logical reason.
>>>
>>>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>>>
>>> Pure bullshit.
>>>
>>
>> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>>
>> Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
>> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the
>> earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
>
> Do not following mythology the has been through the telephone game
> through few thousands of years.
>

I'll bet you really meant to say something else didn't you Mark?

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 7:22 PM

Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:35:11 -0400, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> Ok - so you don't agree with a guy's religeous beliefs. That's fine
>> - it's your purogative.
>
> Before this gets carried away (again) let me assert that all I meant
> was that his first reason was sufficient unto itself, there was no
> need to bring up Steve's (and apparently your) particular religious
> beliefs.

I agree.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 1:27 PM

Larry Blanchard wrote:

> I stopped worrying about the neighbor's reaction when a couple of the
> old ladies in the park asked me if I could come over and shoot their
> rabbits :-).

Oh Larry - that one leaves you wide open! Too tempting...

The only thing I can say, is that it's a good thing you didn't have a beaver
or a "cat" problem...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 6:06 PM

On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:11:47 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>The internet is just full of information.

But how do you find it? I bet if we come up with a "search motor"
where you just type in what you want and this thing finds the
information, we can make hundreds of dollars, maybe thousands, even.
We can call it something catchy like GoogaBing.

Du

Dave

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 8:03 PM

On Mon, 7 May 2012 14:35:11 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>but your reply speaks for you. Perhaps you can show the irrefutaqble truth
>to contradict Steve's position. Don't bother - you

Irrefutable proof has nothing to do with it. Steve brought religion
into an argument that had nothing to do with religion.

His use of religion is tantamount to saying, "Here's my reply, you
can't refute it, you're wrong and I'm right, so screw you."

It's arrogant, it's condescending and it has absolutely no place in
any type of logical or scientific discussion. Yet he said it anyway.

"THAT'S" why I abhor people who flaunt their religion. It's a way of
saying to everybody that disagrees with them, that they're inferior in
some way.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 2:35 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Steve Barker wrote:
>
>> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>>
>> Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
>> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the
>> earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
> -----------------------------------
> Talk about pure bullshit.
>
>

Ok - so you don't agree with a guy's religeous beliefs. That's fine - it's
your purogative. But... why do you feel compelled to reply that way? That
sir, only makes you look like a pure asshole. I don't think you are one,
but your reply speaks for you. Perhaps you can show the irrefutaqble truth
to contradict Steve's position. Don't bother - you can't.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Rr

RonB

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 7:35 PM

On May 6, 7:42=A0pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
> > We are having some Armadillo problems and they are tilling up our lawn
> > as well as the neighbor's =A0I caught one in the yard a few weeks ago,
> > late at night, and didn't follow instinct and get the shotgun.
>
> They do that? =A0I thought the only thing Armadillos did was lie dead in =
the
> road.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]

I'll send you about a dozen and you can test them out :o)

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 1:11 PM

sal wrote:

> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of
> your yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would
> be up in arms.
>

This was the first result from a google search using "rabbit deterrent" as
the search criteria...

http://www.squidoo.com/rabbit-deterrent

The internet is just full of information.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Du

Dave

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 8:08 PM

On Mon, 7 May 2012 14:35:11 -0400, "Mike Marlow" That
>sir, only makes you look like a pure asshole. I don't think you are one,

Then you better call me one too.

>but your reply speaks for you. Perhaps you can show the irrefutaqble truth
>to contradict Steve's position. Don't bother - you can't.

That's the point. No one can. That's why Steve used religion in his
reply. It doesn't allow for logical or scientific response in any way,
shape or form. His use of religion was a completely out of place
reply.

Rr

RonB

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 4:28 PM

On May 6, 9:17=A0am, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have any of =A0you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
> arms.
>
> Sal

We are having some Armadillo problems and they are tilling up our lawn
as well as the neighbor's I caught one in the yard a few weeks ago,
late at night, and didn't follow instinct and get the shotgun.

I asked the neighbor if they minded if I shot one with a shotgun or
pistol. She said you'll be in a lot more trouble with us if you don't
shoot the little S.O.B.'s

RonB

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 4:09 PM

Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Steve Barker <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>>>
>>> Good logical reason.
>>>
>>>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>>>
>>> Pure bullshit.
>>>
>>
>> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>>
>> Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
>> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the
>> earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
>
> A self-justifying folk tale.
>
> scott

An assertion by one who has no further proof than the person to whom he is
responding - yet tries to sound confident enough to imply he does.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 6:39 AM

Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Sun, 06 May 2012 21:16:49 -0700, Larry Jaques
>>>> Got your head in the gutter eh? Guess it had to happen. Old age gets
>>>> all of us. The gutter is the only refuge left.
>>>
>>>Yeah - great, ain't it?
>>
>>Poor Dave must have _left_ the gutter at some point. One wonders why.
>><snort>
>
> Maybe Dave found something better than the gutter ~ as unbelievable as
> that may sound. :)

I've got a nice upscale rut here for sale. It's not as deep as a gutter,
but it's every bit as cozy. *g*

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 11:20 AM


Steve Barker wrote:

> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>
> Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the
> earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
-----------------------------------
Talk about pure bullshit.


Lew


MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 8:42 PM

RonB wrote:

>
> We are having some Armadillo problems and they are tilling up our lawn
> as well as the neighbor's I caught one in the yard a few weeks ago,
> late at night, and didn't follow instinct and get the shotgun.
>

They do that? I thought the only thing Armadillos did was lie dead in the
road.


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

TD

Tim Daneliuk

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

08/05/2012 10:51 AM

On 05/06/2012 09:45 AM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, "sal"<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
>> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
>> arms.
>>
>> Sal
>>
> A good pellet gun works for me. Do you really care what your
> neighbors think?


Shooting your neighbors with a pellet gun is very poor
form and almost certainly illegal...

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Daneliuk

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 1:05 PM

sal wrote:

> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of
> your yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would
> be up in arms.
>

Pet coyotes work well.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

08/05/2012 8:19 AM

Bob Martin wrote:
> in 1527308 20120506 154558 Gordon Shumway <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of
>>> your yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors
>>> would be up in arms.
>>>
>>> Sal
>>>
>> A good pellet gun works for me. Do you really care what your
>> neighbors think?
>
> The American way : if it moves shoot it.
> Can't you Yanks learn to live with wildlife?

Said the city dweller who's never felt the thrill of his fingers around a
small, furry, neck.

LA

Limp Arbor

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 5:28 AM

On May 6, 12:09=A0pm, "G.W. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote:
> sal wrote:
> > Have any of =A0you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of yo=
ur
> > yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up i=
n
> > arms.
>
> > Sal
>
> A rabbit trap is easy to build. =A0 I use mine for squirrels and have
> trapped and removed around 30. =A0We used to have rabbits around, but
> the neighbor's cats took care of those.
>
Careful...

I used to trap and reloacte the groundhogs pestering SWMBO's garden.
Stopped doing that after one morning there was a skunk in the cage...

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Steve Barker

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

09/05/2012 7:54 PM

On 5/9/2012 12:45 PM, Markem wrote:

>
> Do not following mythology the has been through the telephone game
> through few thousands of years.
>
> Mark

Is this English?

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 8:49 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2012 14:35:11 -0400, "Mike Marlow" That
>> sir, only makes you look like a pure asshole. I don't think you are
>> one,
>
> Then you better call me one too.

Of course Dave - you can read that I did NOT call anyone an asshole. Not
the other poster, and not you.



--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 5:09 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:27:15 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> Oh Larry - that one leaves you wide open! Too tempting...
>>
>> The only thing I can say, is that it's a good thing you didn't have
>> a beaver or a "cat" problem...
>
> Got your head in the gutter eh? Guess it had to happen. Old age gets
> all of us. The gutter is the only refuge left.

Yeah - great, ain't it?

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 10:44 PM

RonB wrote:
> On May 6, 7:42 pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> We are having some Armadillo problems and they are tilling up our
>>> lawn as well as the neighbor's I caught one in the yard a few weeks
>>> ago, late at night, and didn't follow instinct and get the shotgun.
>>
>> They do that? I thought the only thing Armadillos did was lie dead
>> in the road.
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> [email protected]
>
> I'll send you about a dozen and you can test them out :o)

Sure - I'm game for some night time recreational shooting.

About a half hour ago my wife comes down from the bedroom and tells me she
hears digging right outside of where I'm sitting. Hell - I didn't hear a
feakin' thing, and she hears is up on the second floor! So much for my
sneakin' around the house at night...

Anyway - out I go with my handgun and a useless flashlight. Nothing. Go
back in for a better flashlight. Nothing in the immediate area, but I did
hear something escaping into the woods surrounding our yard. Not for long.
I may not be able to hear shit, but I can hit things I shoot at. Really
well. That dude's days are numbered.

I am just surprised that you got those damned armadillos up here so freakin'
fast. I figured it take a day or two...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 6:30 PM



"Steve Barker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


man was given
dominion over the animals.
==================================================================================================
Horse shit. It's mans arrogants that makes them think they are the greatest
thing to ever come along.

Di

"Dave in Texas"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 8:07 PM

"sal" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Well the consensus is ,shoot the dam things and screw the neighbors one is
a priest and the other 70 yr. widow I think I'll pass on that scenario but
I have a Beeman 22 air rifle so maybe we will go out at dusk.


The air rifle should work. I once dispatched a skunk [that twice
sprayed the dog] outside my master bath window with a .22 CB Cap. A 29 gr.
bullet that I once chronographed ~600 fps. Every bit as quiet as an air
rifle.
I've been keeping the squirrel population in check in my own backyard with a
.177 Gamo Quiet Cat [or some such title].

Dave in Texas

GR

"G.W. Ross"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 8:56 AM

Limp Arbor wrote:
> On May 6, 12:09 pm, "G.W. Ross"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> sal wrote:
>> > Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
>> > yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
>> > arms.
>>
>> > Sal
>>
>> A rabbit trap is easy to build. I use mine for squirrels and have
>> trapped and removed around 30. We used to have rabbits around, but
>> the neighbor's cats took care of those.
>>
> Careful...
>
> I used to trap and reloacte the groundhogs pestering SWMBO's garden.
> Stopped doing that after one morning there was a skunk in the cage...
>

I learned early not to leave the trap set overnight. I catch a
'possum every time.
Last time it was one about 2/3 grown. When I turned him out he went
through the chain-link fence like it wasn't even there. I knew
rabbits can do that but never thought a big-ol 'possum could do it.
--
G.W. Ross

There is no substitute for
incomprehensible good luck.





Cc

"CW"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

08/05/2012 9:40 AM



"J. Clarke" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Steve Barker" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
> man was given
> dominion over the animals.
> ==================================================================================================
> Horse shit. It's mans arrogants that makes them think they are the
> greatest
> thing to ever come along.

We're apex predators talking about food you know.
==================================================================================================
That's bullshit and you know it. Now back into the kill file with you.

MK

Michael Karas

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 9:52 AM

[This followup was posted to rec.woodworking and a copy was sent to the
cited author.]

In article <884dc720-705e-4fca-b2fc-
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I used to trap and reloacte the groundhogs pestering SWMBO's garden.
> Stopped doing that after one morning there was a skunk in the cage...
>

How did you resolve that dilemma?

--

Michael Karas
Carousel Design Solutions
http://www.carousel-design.com

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

08/05/2012 9:03 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Steve Barker" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
> man was given
> dominion over the animals.
> ==================================================================================================
> Horse shit. It's mans arrogants that makes them think they are the greatest
> thing to ever come along.

We're apex predators talking about food you know.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 6:49 PM

Steve Barker <[email protected]> writes:
>On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>>
>>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>>
>> Good logical reason.
>>
>>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>>
>> Pure bullshit.
>>
>
>might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>
>Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
>the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
>over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

A self-justifying folk tale.

scott

GR

"G.W. Ross"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 12:09 PM

sal wrote:
> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
> arms.
>
> Sal
>
>

A rabbit trap is easy to build. I use mine for squirrels and have
trapped and removed around 30. We used to have rabbits around, but
the neighbor's cats took care of those.

--
G.W. Ross

There's nothing wrong with Southern
California that a rise in the ocean
level wouldn't cure.





DM

Doug Miller

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

08/05/2012 8:43 PM

"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
>
> "J. Clarke" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> We're apex predators talking about food you know.
> =============================================================================
=====================
> That's bullshit and you know it. Now back into the kill file with you.

No, he's exactly right: in the natural environment of our species (i.e., on land) we *are* apex
predators. Not in the sea, of course, but that's not our natural environment, either.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 8:41 PM

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:11:47 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> The internet is just full of information.
>
> But how do you find it? I bet if we come up with a "search motor"
> where you just type in what you want and this thing finds the
> information, we can make hundreds of dollars, maybe thousands, even.
> We can call it something catchy like GoogaBing.

Sounds good, but nobody would probably use it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

BM

Bob Martin

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 6:56 AM

in 1527308 20120506 154558 Gordon Shumway <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
>>yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
>>arms.
>>
>>Sal
>>
>A good pellet gun works for me. Do you really care what your
>neighbors think?

The American way : if it moves shoot it.
Can't you Yanks learn to live with wildlife?

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 12:59 PM

On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>
>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>
> Good logical reason.
>
>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>
> Pure bullshit.
>

might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 2:01 PM

Steve Barker wrote:

>
> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>

I agree with Steve, but I'm ducking for cover. These things never turn out
well...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 8:48 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2012 14:35:11 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> but your reply speaks for you. Perhaps you can show the
>> irrefutaqble truth to contradict Steve's position. Don't bother -
>> you
>
> Irrefutable proof has nothing to do with it. Steve brought religion
> into an argument that had nothing to do with religion.
>
> His use of religion is tantamount to saying, "Here's my reply, you
> can't refute it, you're wrong and I'm right, so screw you."
>

Well - I don't see his response that way. I see it more as a simple
statement of his belief, though as I have already agreed within this thread,
I don't believe that statement is worth the trouble it brings along with it.
But - that's just how I saw it.


> It's arrogant, it's condescending and it has absolutely no place in
> any type of logical or scientific discussion. Yet he said it anyway.

I can't bring myself to go that far. I would not say the conversation was
overwhelmingly logical or scientific. Even if it were, religeous beliefs
are not mutually exclusive with those two platforms.


>
> "THAT'S" why I abhor people who flaunt their religion. It's a way of
> saying to everybody that disagrees with them, that they're inferior in
> some way.

I tend to see those who put down the religeous beliefs of others, that same
way.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 2:12 PM

Limp Arbor wrote:

>
> Then I gottta dig a hole...
>
> I think I'd be a little nervous releasing a coon on the other side of
> the river. Aren't supposed to be nasty?
>

Yeah and no. If you corner them, they can become quite nasty. If you give
them a way out, they will take it. The intelligence lies on your
shoulders - dont' cont on them to be too smart.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 12:12 PM

On 5/7/2012 12:06 PM, Limp Arbor wrote:
> On May 7, 12:52 pm, Michael Karas<[email protected]> wrote:
>> [This followup was posted to rec.woodworking and a copy was sent to the
>> cited author.]
>>
>> In article<884dc720-705e-4fca-b2fc-
>> [email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>
>>> I used to trap and reloacte the groundhogs pestering SWMBO's garden.
>>> Stopped doing that after one morning there was a skunk in the cage...
>>
>> How did you resolve that dilemma?
>>
>
> Luckily the cage was inside the garden near the fence. I draped a
> tarp over the fence to protect me from a possible spray. Reached over
> the fence with a long piece of Mahogany I had laying around. Spent
> about 20-30 minutes until I could get the cage to open. He just
> walked out and crawled out the way he came in.
>
> Supposedly they are very unlikey to spray during the day when not
> confranted directly. YMMV
>
> Those cages are very hard to open from the other side of a fence with
> a long pole...
>
>
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they also don't spray if you just leave them in there for 36 hours on a
105 degree day. My dad found that out in his garden. Last year: 22
possums, 5 coons, and 2 skunks. All went to sleep while he was at work
each day.

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LA

Limp Arbor

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 11:05 AM

On May 7, 1:12=A0pm, Steve Barker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5/7/2012 12:06 PM, Limp Arbor wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 12:52 pm, Michael Karas<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> [This followup was posted to rec.woodworking and a copy was sent to th=
e
> >> cited author.]
>
> >> In article<884dc720-705e-4fca-b2fc-
> >> [email protected]>, [email protected]
> >> says...
>
> >>> I used to trap and reloacte the groundhogs pestering SWMBO's garden.
> >>> Stopped doing that after one morning there was a skunk in the cage...
>
> >> How did you resolve that dilemma?
>
> > Luckily the cage was inside the garden near the fence. =A0I draped a
> > tarp over the fence to protect me from a possible spray. =A0Reached ove=
r
> > the fence with a long piece of Mahogany I had laying around. =A0Spent
> > about 20-30 minutes until I could get the cage to open. =A0He just
> > walked out and crawled out the way he came in.
>
> > Supposedly they are very unlikey to spray during the day when not
> > confranted directly. =A0YMMV
>
> > Those cages are very hard to open from the other side of a fence with
> > a long pole...
>
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> > Access your files from your smartphone or tablet
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>
> they also don't spray if you just leave them in there for 36 hours on a
> 105 degree day. =A0My dad found that out in his garden. =A0Last year: 22
> possums, 5 coons, and 2 skunks. =A0All went to sleep while he was at work
> each day.
>

Then I gottta dig a hole...

I think I'd be a little nervous releasing a coon on the other side of
the river. Aren't supposed to be nasty?

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Limp Arbor

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 10:06 AM

On May 7, 12:52=A0pm, Michael Karas <[email protected]> wrote:
> [This followup was posted to rec.woodworking and a copy was sent to the
> cited author.]
>
> In article <884dc720-705e-4fca-b2fc-
> [email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>
> > I used to trap and reloacte the groundhogs pestering SWMBO's garden.
> > Stopped doing that after one morning there was a skunk in the cage...
>
> How did you resolve that dilemma?
>

Luckily the cage was inside the garden near the fence. I draped a
tarp over the fence to protect me from a possible spray. Reached over
the fence with a long piece of Mahogany I had laying around. Spent
about 20-30 minutes until I could get the cage to open. He just
walked out and crawled out the way he came in.

Supposedly they are very unlikey to spray during the day when not
confranted directly. YMMV

Those cages are very hard to open from the other side of a fence with
a long pole...


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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 2:35 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Steve Barker wrote:
>
>> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>>
>> Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and
>> over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the
>> earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
> -----------------------------------
> Talk about pure bullshit.
>
>
> Lew

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 9:45 AM

On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
>yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
>arms.
>
>Sal
>
A good pellet gun works for me. Do you really care what your
neighbors think?

Du

Dave

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 9:09 PM

On Mon, 7 May 2012 20:48:07 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>I tend to see those who put down the religeous beliefs of others, that same
>way.

I put down the religious beliefs of others *WHEN* they use those
beliefs as the 'irrefutable' answer to some discussion or question.
It's a form of cheating as far as I'm concerned when it comes to
informed discussion.

Steve can't prove any of his beliefs. He can't offer up any sort of
validation to his beliefs and he can't give one shred of scientific
proof about his beliefs, yet he uses them as fact that can't be
disputed.

And, because they are what they are, no one else offer rebuttal. In
other words, they are unacceptable in any discussion, in any topic,
except religion.

ss

"sal"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 5:40 PM

Well the consensus is ,shoot the dam things and screw the neighbors one is
a priest and the other 70 yr. widow I think I'll pass on that scenario but
I have a Beeman 22 air rifle so maybe we will go out at dusk.

Sal
"sal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
> arms.
>
> Sal
>
>

Du

Dave

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 5:06 PM

On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:27:15 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>Oh Larry - that one leaves you wide open! Too tempting...
>
>The only thing I can say, is that it's a good thing you didn't have a beaver
>or a "cat" problem...

Got your head in the gutter eh? Guess it had to happen. Old age gets
all of us. The gutter is the only refuge left.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 5:20 PM

On Sun, 06 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, sal wrote:

> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
> arms.

Don't be too sure. We live in a seniors mobile home park and a few years
back were so infested with rabbits I bought a BB gun and had at it. Just
stinging them a few times seems to work, but I did kill a few more by
accident than intentionally.

I stopped worrying about the neighbor's reaction when a couple of the old
ladies in the park asked me if I could come over and shoot their
rabbits :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 5:20 PM

On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:

> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.

Good logical reason.

> AND man was given dominion over the animals.

Pure bullshit.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 11:21 PM

On Mon, 07 May 2012 14:35:11 -0400, Mike Marlow wrote:

> Ok - so you don't agree with a guy's religeous beliefs. That's fine -
> it's your purogative.

Before this gets carried away (again) let me assert that all I meant was
that his first reason was sufficient unto itself, there was no need to
bring up Steve's (and apparently your) particular religious beliefs.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

08/05/2012 4:53 PM

On Tue, 08 May 2012 09:03:40 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> Horse shit. It's mans arrogants that makes them think they are the
>> greatest thing to ever come along.
>
> We're apex predators talking about food you know.

Chuckle - we do like to forget that, don't we :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

09/05/2012 1:24 PM

On 5/9/12 12:45 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2012 12:59:07 -0500, Steve Barker
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>>>
>>> Good logical reason.
>>>
>>>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>>>
>>> Pure bullshit.
>>>
>>
>> might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28
>>
>> Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
>> likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
>> the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
>> over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
>
> Do not following mythology the has been through the telephone game
> through few thousands of years.
>
> Mark

Can't believe I'm even getting into this, but here goes.... :-)

When the dead sea scrolls were discovered, there were those who thought
they would finally prove this "telephone game" theory by seeing how
modern texts compared to these ancient ones. However, they were nearly
identical. They only differences were equivalent to differences in
spelling over time and punctuation.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Du

Dave

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 1:40 AM

On Sun, 06 May 2012 21:16:49 -0700, Larry Jaques
>>> Got your head in the gutter eh? Guess it had to happen. Old age gets
>>> all of us. The gutter is the only refuge left.
>>
>>Yeah - great, ain't it?
>
>Poor Dave must have _left_ the gutter at some point. One wonders why.
><snort>

Maybe Dave found something better than the gutter ~ as unbelievable as
that may sound. :)

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 3:28 PM

On 5/6/2012 9:17 AM, sal wrote:
> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
> yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
> arms.
>
> Sal
>
>

well screw the neighbors! get a 12ga and blast away.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

RN

Roy

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 5:26 PM

On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:17:07 -0500, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of your
>yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would be up in
>arms.
>
>Sal
>

Get a beagle.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 9:16 PM

On Sun, 6 May 2012 17:09:53 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Dave wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:27:15 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>>> Oh Larry - that one leaves you wide open! Too tempting...
>>>
>>> The only thing I can say, is that it's a good thing you didn't have
>>> a beaver or a "cat" problem...
>>
>> Got your head in the gutter eh? Guess it had to happen. Old age gets
>> all of us. The gutter is the only refuge left.
>
>Yeah - great, ain't it?

Poor Dave must have _left_ the gutter at some point. One wonders why.
<snort>

--
With every experience, you alone are painting your
own canvas, thought by thought, choice by choice.
-- Oprah Winfrey

Di

"Dave in Texas"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 8:09 PM

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
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RonB wrote:

>
> We are having some Armadillo problems and they are tilling up our lawn
> as well as the neighbor's I caught one in the yard a few weeks ago,
> late at night, and didn't follow instinct and get the shotgun.
>

They do that? I thought the only thing Armadillos did was lie dead in the
road.
-----------------------------------------------------------

Q: Why did the armadillo cross the road?

A: Just to prove he could.

Davae in Texas

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 9:14 PM

On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:05:23 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>sal wrote:
>
>> Have any of you W/W found a sure method of keeping rabbits out of
>> your yard? I would like to trap or kill them but ,my neighbors would
>> be up in arms.
>>
>
>Pet coyotes work well.

Pet cougars are much more fun. They take out the stray dogs, too.
I love kitty cats!

--
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own canvas, thought by thought, choice by choice.
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Cn

"ChairMan"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

06/05/2012 6:02 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:27:15 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> Oh Larry - that one leaves you wide open! Too tempting...
>>
>> The only thing I can say, is that it's a good thing you didn't have
>> a beaver or a "cat" problem...
>
> Got your head in the gutter eh? Guess it had to happen. Old age gets
> all of us. The gutter is the only refuge left.

Hell......everything is up from there<g>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "sal" on 06/05/2012 9:17 AM

07/05/2012 6:37 PM



"Steve Barker" wrote in message
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On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 07 May 2012 11:48:51 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
>
>> Simple, we don't like them destroying our shit.
>
> Good logical reason.
>
>> AND man was given dominion over the animals.
>
> Pure bullshit.
>

might want to review Genesis 1:26 and 1:28

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
=================================================================================
Now that you have quoted the book of fairy tales, give use a logical reason
other than man's arrogents.


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