A University of Maryland poll shows Bush supporters should start
paying more attention to the "biased" mainstream media, because as it
stands a very large percentage of Bush backers are shockingly ignorant
of the facts.
I don't know where they are getting their news now, but the sources
they are choosing obviously don't have their facts straight.
No wonder some of them think the Washington Post and other credible
newspapers are "liberal rags." When the truth is consistently at odds
with your warped world view, you are bound to perceive those who
report facts as "biased."
The Separate Realities of Bush and Kerry Supporters
(PIPA, University of Maryland)
http://tinyurl.com/6aze2
.
On 23 Oct 2004 10:21:32 -0700, [email protected] (Florida
Patriot) wrote:
>A University of Maryland poll shows Bush supporters should start
>paying more attention to the "biased" mainstream media, because as it
>stands a very large percentage of Bush backers are shockingly ignorant
>of the facts.
>
>I don't know where they are getting their news now, but the sources
>they are choosing obviously don't have their facts straight.
>
>No wonder some of them think the Washington Post and other credible
>newspapers are "liberal rags." When the truth is consistently at odds
>with your warped world view, you are bound to perceive those who
>report facts as "biased."
>
Nah, no mainstream press that publishes forged documents as fact and then
maintained their position for weeks could possibly be biased, could it? No
mainstream media news organization that sent a memo to its people
indicating that it's "crunch time" and while they have an obligation to be
fair, because of the importance of this election, they need to be more
"fair" to one side than the other. Nope, no bias there?
Perhaps FP mistakes "opinion" for "fact".
>The Separate Realities of Bush and Kerry Supporters
>(PIPA, University of Maryland)
>http://tinyurl.com/6aze2
>
>
>.
Do you actually own or use any woodworking tools?
"Florida Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A University of Maryland poll shows Bush supporters should start
> paying more attention to the "biased" mainstream media, because as it
> stands a very large percentage of Bush backers are shockingly ignorant
> of the facts.
>
> I don't know where they are getting their news now, but the sources
> they are choosing obviously don't have their facts straight.
>
> No wonder some of them think the Washington Post and other credible
> newspapers are "liberal rags." When the truth is consistently at odds
> with your warped world view, you are bound to perceive those who
> report facts as "biased."
>
> The Separate Realities of Bush and Kerry Supporters
> (PIPA, University of Maryland)
> http://tinyurl.com/6aze2
>
>
> .
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1098577995.l4DFU2fS5tGrL9c/+e9O2Q@teranews...
> On 23 Oct 2004 10:21:32 -0700, [email protected] (Florida
> Patriot) wrote:
>
> >A University of Maryland poll shows Bush supporters should start
> >paying more attention to the "biased" mainstream media, because as it
> >stands a very large percentage of Bush backers are shockingly ignorant
> >of the facts.
> >
> >I don't know where they are getting their news now, but the sources
> >they are choosing obviously don't have their facts straight.
> >
> >No wonder some of them think the Washington Post and other credible
> >newspapers are "liberal rags." When the truth is consistently at odds
> >with your warped world view, you are bound to perceive those who
> >report facts as "biased."
> >
>
> Nah, no mainstream press that publishes forged documents as fact and
then
> maintained their position for weeks could possibly be biased, could it?
No
> mainstream media news organization that sent a memo to its people
> indicating that it's "crunch time" and while they have an obligation to be
> fair, because of the importance of this election, they need to be more
> "fair" to one side than the other. Nope, no bias there?
>
> Perhaps FP mistakes "opinion" for "fact".
>
Sounds like the study is talking about you.
In article <1098577995.l4DFU2fS5tGrL9c/+e9O2Q@teranews>,
[email protected] says...
> Perhaps FP mistakes "opinion" for "fact".
>
FP is undoubtedly biased, as are you. But what about the survey? Did
the Bush supporters polled deliberately lie to the pollsters? If not,
they DO live in a fantasy world.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
"hex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote in message .
>>
>> Here's man-in-the street test I'd lke to see.
>>
>> Ask people to explain the difference between an automatic rifle
>> and a semi-automatic rifle. Then ask them whom they support for
>> President.
>>
>> Then ask people to find Iraq on a map of the Middle East. Then ask
>> them whom they support for President.
>>
>> My prediction is that a majority of those who don't know the difference
>> between the rifles are Kerry (or Nader) supporters whereas the majority
>> who can't find Iraq are Bush supporters.
>
> Interesting idea, but you've left out two key groups: the totally
> clueless knowing neither answer and the ones who know both answers.
> My guess is that the clueless are the mythical the undecided voters?
> Who else would respond the attack adds?
> The ones who know both answers will be driven by other issues.
>
> hex
> -30-
Its the 'blind faith' culture. They dont have eyes?
......................................
http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/
http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/
"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<yQ_ed.243272$wV.188628@attbi_s54>...
> Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
> first jewish president and the first white african first
> lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
> ancestry...
The poll tells us Bush supporters are ignorant. Your post tells us
Bush supporters are racist, which further validates the poll's
finidngs.
[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote in message .
>
> Here's man-in-the street test I'd lke to see.
>
> Ask people to explain the difference between an automatic rifle
> and a semi-automatic rifle. Then ask them whom they support for
> President.
>
> Then ask people to find Iraq on a map of the Middle East. Then ask
> them whom they support for President.
>
> My prediction is that a majority of those who don't know the difference
> between the rifles are Kerry (or Nader) supporters whereas the majority
> who can't find Iraq are Bush supporters.
Interesting idea, but you've left out two key groups: the totally
clueless knowing neither answer and the ones who know both answers.
My guess is that the clueless are the mythical the undecided voters?
Who else would respond the attack adds?
The ones who know both answers will be driven by other issues.
hex
-30-
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:29:45 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:57:18 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yea should be very interesting if Kohn [excuse me for using the original
>>>>name ] and Edwards get elected .
>>>>
>>>>It could be the first time the country is run by a couple of trial
>>>>Lawyers
>>>>.
>>>>Just think of all the liberal judges they can appoint, so that
>>>>Constitutional law can be avoided, furthermore making law from the bench
>>>>should avoid all the stupid laws passed by your ELECTED representatives
>>>>local, statewide and national.
>>>>
>>>>Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house,
>>>>the
>>>>first jewish president and the first white african first
>>>>lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
>>>>ancestry...
>>>
>>> Racist.
>>
>>Well excuse me, I just stated facts and an opinion, nothing racist
>>whatsoever.
>>
>>Now if YOU consider Jews or white Africans inferior in some way to
>>Yourself,
>>then I can uderstand your stupid assertion....mjh
>
> Wrong. You're listing reasons why we should not vote for Kerry, and
> then mention off-handedly that he's of Jewish ancestry, and the first
> lady is of african extraction. That sure as hell seems to me like
> you're intending to present their bloodlines as a negative. I'd be
> hard for me to consider Jews inferior to myself, since I'm only
> seperated by one generation from being a full-blooded Jew.
Regardless of your affiliation, either religious or statehood, my last
comment stands.....mjh
Having trouble with facts again...?????? mjh
--"dpsours" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<yQ_ed.243272$wV.188628@attbi_s54>...
>> Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
>> first jewish president and the first white african first
>> lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
>> ancestry...
>
> The poll tells us Bush supporters are ignorant. Your post tells us
> Bush supporters are racist, which further validates the poll's
> finidngs.
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:57:18 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Yea should be very interesting if Kohn [excuse me for using the original
>>name ] and Edwards get elected .
>>
>>It could be the first time the country is run by a couple of trial Lawyers
>>.
>>Just think of all the liberal judges they can appoint, so that
>>Constitutional law can be avoided, furthermore making law from the bench
>>should avoid all the stupid laws passed by your ELECTED representatives
>>local, statewide and national.
>>
>>Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
>>first jewish president and the first white african first
>>lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
>>ancestry...
>
> Racist.
Well excuse me, I just stated facts and an opinion, nothing racist
whatsoever.
Now if YOU consider Jews or white Africans inferior in some way to Yourself,
then I can uderstand your stupid assertion....mjh
"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<yQ_ed.243272$wV.188628@attbi_s54>...
> Yea should be very interesting if Kohn [excuse me for using the original
> name ] and Edwards get elected .
<snip>
Oh, good--the old "we can't vote for him because he's a JEWBOY"
argument. Lovely.
Kohn was John Kerry's grandfather's last name--when he lived in
Czechoslovakia. He came to the US and changed his name to "Kerry."
Yes, John Kerry's grandfather and grandmother (paternal) were both
Jewish, although his grandmother did convert to Catholicism later in
life.
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk030207/us02.shtml
How could this possibly make a difference in whether he's a good
candidate for President or not?
And as a side note--it's been interesting to hear Kerry quote more of
Scripture than Bush does, and also refreshing to hear that Kerry
starts every Sunday by attending Mass--hm, how often does Bush make it
to church?
Jim
Mike Hide wrote:
> Well excuse me, I just stated facts and an opinion, nothing racist
> whatsoever.
>
> Now if YOU consider Jews or white Africans inferior in some way to
> Yourself, then I can uderstand your stupid assertion....mjh
Why did you consider it worthy of mention in the first place?
Especially in the context of complaining about the possibiltiy of having
two lawyers in the White House.
Chuck Vance
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<1098577995.l4DFU2fS5tGrL9c/+e9O2Q@teranews>...
> On 23 Oct 2004 10:21:32 -0700, [email protected] (Florida
> Patriot) wrote:
>
> >A University of Maryland poll shows Bush supporters should start
> >paying more attention to the "biased" mainstream media, because as it
> >stands a very large percentage of Bush backers are shockingly ignorant
> >of the facts.
> >
> >I don't know where they are getting their news now, but the sources
> >they are choosing obviously don't have their facts straight.
> >
> >No wonder some of them think the Washington Post and other credible
> >newspapers are "liberal rags." When the truth is consistently at odds
> >with your warped world view, you are bound to perceive those who
> >report facts as "biased."
> >
>
> Nah, no mainstream press that publishes forged documents as fact and then
> maintained their position for weeks could possibly be biased, could it?
ISTR that was CBS, not the Post. When David Frost interviewed Richard
Nixon for PBS, Nixon make an interesting observation that all television
is entertainment, including public television -- meaning that very
interview. The best television network news is scarcely more accurate,
if more accurate at all, than the worst of the serious newspapers in
America. By 'serious' I exclude papers that are entirely or primarily
satire or spoofs like the National Enquirer or the Weekly World News.
My impression from glancing through the University of Maryland study
is that they authors reached conclusions to some extent about broad
issues or policies by drawing on inferences from narrow statements
and actions.
But there are some interesting statistics on certain specific issues:
On issues Bush opposes:
69% of Bush supporters said he favors the Comprehensive Test ban treaty
72% of Bush supporters said he favors the treaty banning land mines
51% of Bush supporters said he favors paticipation in the Kyoto agreement
When questioned as to their own opinion:
68% favored the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty
66% favor the land mine treaty
54% favor participation in the Kyoto agreement
It would appear that a majority of Bush's supporters oppose him on
these issues, but don't realize it.
Onw wonders how many of Bush's supporters would change their opinon
to support Bush if they knew what his position was. Or for that
matter, how many of Bush's supporters had any idea what it was they
were being asked about.
Here's man-in-the street test I'd lke to see.
Ask people to explain the difference between an automatic rifle
and a semi-automatic rifle. Then ask them whom they support for
President.
Then ask people to find Iraq on a map of the Middle East. Then ask
them whom they support for President.
My prediction is that a majority of those who don't know the difference
between the rifles are Kerry (or Nader) supporters whereas the majority
who can't find Iraq are Bush supporters.
--
FF
"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Zokfd.248592$wV.96437@attbi_s54>...
> "Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:57:18 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
> >>first jewish president and the first white african first
> >>lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
> >>ancestry...
> >
> > Racist.
>
> Well excuse me, I just stated facts and an opinion, nothing racist
> whatsoever.
>
> Now if YOU consider Jews or white Africans inferior in some way to Yourself,
> then I can uderstand your stupid assertion....mjh
If YOU end an article critical of the candidate with clearly irrelevent
facts about the ethnicity of that candidate's ancestry then YOU are a
racist.
You did. You are. And the horse you rode in on, too.
--
FF
>> >>Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house,
>> >>the
>> >>first jewish president and the first white african first
>> >>lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
>> >>ancestry...
>> >
>> > Racist.
>>
>> Well excuse me, I just stated facts and an opinion, nothing racist
>> whatsoever.
>>
>> Now if YOU consider Jews or white Africans inferior in some way to
>> Yourself,
>> then I can uderstand your stupid assertion....mjh
>
> If YOU end an article critical of the candidate with clearly irrelevent
> facts about the ethnicity of that candidate's ancestry then YOU are a
> racist.
>
> You did. You are. And the horse you rode in on, too.
>
> --
>
> FF
No sir that is a fact of life that I thought interesting . If I were a
racist I would have mentioned his other close advisors ,Jamie Rubin , Sandy
Berger, Dick Rubin, Dennis Ross, and perhaps his brother Cameron, who is
seldom mentioned but apparently "Kerry's" go between with the Israelis.
And no I do not like trial lawyers, and people who have difficulty telling
the truth and are dumb enough to get caught up in one lie after another, the
latest of which is this explosives crap he is accusing Bush of not
protecting . You can see todays news about Bush early voters being harassed
at early voting venues, many of the Bush campaign headquarters being
vandalised or broken into by union thugs. Reminiscent of the brown shirts of
old . If thats the kind of person you want in the white house fine it
certainly is not mine...............mjh
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:29:45 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
>
>"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:57:18 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Yea should be very interesting if Kohn [excuse me for using the original
>>>name ] and Edwards get elected .
>>>
>>>It could be the first time the country is run by a couple of trial Lawyers
>>>.
>>>Just think of all the liberal judges they can appoint, so that
>>>Constitutional law can be avoided, furthermore making law from the bench
>>>should avoid all the stupid laws passed by your ELECTED representatives
>>>local, statewide and national.
>>>
>>>Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
>>>first jewish president and the first white african first
>>>lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
>>>ancestry...
>>
>> Racist.
>
>Well excuse me, I just stated facts and an opinion, nothing racist
>whatsoever.
>
>Now if YOU consider Jews or white Africans inferior in some way to Yourself,
>then I can uderstand your stupid assertion....mjh
Wrong. You're listing reasons why we should not vote for Kerry, and
then mention off-handedly that he's of Jewish ancestry, and the first
lady is of african extraction. That sure as hell seems to me like
you're intending to present their bloodlines as a negative. I'd be
hard for me to consider Jews inferior to myself, since I'm only
seperated by one generation from being a full-blooded Jew.
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:57:18 GMT, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Yea should be very interesting if Kohn [excuse me for using the original
>name ] and Edwards get elected .
>
>It could be the first time the country is run by a couple of trial Lawyers .
>Just think of all the liberal judges they can appoint, so that
>Constitutional law can be avoided, furthermore making law from the bench
>should avoid all the stupid laws passed by your ELECTED representatives
>local, statewide and national.
>
>Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
>first jewish president and the first white african first
>lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
>ancestry...
Racist.
Yea should be very interesting if Kohn [excuse me for using the original
name ] and Edwards get elected .
It could be the first time the country is run by a couple of trial Lawyers .
Just think of all the liberal judges they can appoint, so that
Constitutional law can be avoided, furthermore making law from the bench
should avoid all the stupid laws passed by your ELECTED representatives
local, statewide and national.
Furthermore America would have a couple of firsts in the white house, the
first jewish president and the first white african first
lady..............mjh if you dont believe just google Kerry
ancestry...
--
http://members.tripod.com/mikehide2
"Jeff Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1098577995.l4DFU2fS5tGrL9c/+e9O2Q@teranews...
>> On 23 Oct 2004 10:21:32 -0700, [email protected] (Florida
>> Patriot) wrote:
>>
>> >A University of Maryland poll shows Bush supporters should start
>> >paying more attention to the "biased" mainstream media, because as it
>> >stands a very large percentage of Bush backers are shockingly ignorant
>> >of the facts.
>> >
>> >I don't know where they are getting their news now, but the sources
>> >they are choosing obviously don't have their facts straight.
>> >
>> >No wonder some of them think the Washington Post and other credible
>> >newspapers are "liberal rags." When the truth is consistently at odds
>> >with your warped world view, you are bound to perceive those who
>> >report facts as "biased."
>> >
>>
>> Nah, no mainstream press that publishes forged documents as fact and
> then
>> maintained their position for weeks could possibly be biased, could it?
> No
>> mainstream media news organization that sent a memo to its people
>> indicating that it's "crunch time" and while they have an obligation to
>> be
>> fair, because of the importance of this election, they need to be more
>> "fair" to one side than the other. Nope, no bias there?
>>
>> Perhaps FP mistakes "opinion" for "fact".
>>
>
> Sounds like the study is talking about you.
>
>
>