RH

"Rob H."

12/05/2011 5:04 AM

What is it? Set 388

I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html


Rob


This topic has 51 replies

kk

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 2:38 AM

On May 11, 11:04=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html
>
> Rob

2239. Some sort of compass or candle gimbal?
2241. Safety attachment for the top of the roof to tie your harness
into.
2243. I'm guessing it's for book binding.
Karl

MB

Myron Buck

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

15/05/2011 8:24 PM

On May 16, 5:58=A0am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>
> > > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
> > > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
> > > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags, includi=
ng
> > > false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
>
> > I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
> > How do you know? =A0Been reading things in burn bags lately?
>
> =A0 =A0How does he know they were ladies?
>
> --
> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid=99 on it, because it'=
s
> Teflon coated.

teeth....underwear....sounds to me like they stuffed a PERSON in a
burn bag!

--riverman

GG

GeorgeD

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 10:45 AM

On 5/12/2011 10:20 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> 2239: Ships lamp, always stays "up"?
>
> Correct, it's a gimbaled lamp for a ship.
>
>> 2240: Brown Paper Bag? Lunch sack
>
> It's not a lunch sack but it is a brown paper bag, it has a very
> particular purpose.
>
>
> Rob

2240: Burn bag for classified documents.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 5:33 PM



"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote
>
> I haven't been able to verify either the chain tool or the large clamp,
> the rest of the answers for this week along with a couple of videos can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html#answers
>
>
That wood chopping video can happen because that is very nice wood. Rarely,
in the real world, is wood that easy to split. Almost a shame to burn that
stuff. It would make very nice lumber. Very straight grain, no knots, etc.




MB

Myron Buck

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

14/05/2011 5:08 AM

On May 14, 5:00=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Howcome both of my browsers (seamonkey and mozilla) give me
> > "Page not found
> > Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog What is it? does not
> > exist."
>
> Blogger was down for maintenance for almost 24 hours starting yesterday
> afternoon but it looks like things are working again now, don't know what
> the problem was.
>
> I haven't been able to verify either the chain tool or the large clamp, t=
he
> rest of the answers for this week along with a couple of videos can be se=
en
> here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html#answers
>
> Rob

Here's a reassurance of the gimbaled lamp
http://tinyurl.com/3j73mnp

--riverman

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

15/05/2011 5:58 PM


Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>
> > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
> > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
> > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags, including
> > false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
>
> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?


How does he know they were ladies?


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

Su

"Steve"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 7:43 PM



"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...

I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html


Rob


2240 looks like an airplane barf bag to me :)


Steve R.

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

16/05/2011 3:29 PM


Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
> >> > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
> >> > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags, including
> >> > false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
> >>
> >> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
> >> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?
> >
> >
> > How does he know they were ladies?
>
> At this particular agency diversity did not extend to guys wearing bras and
> panties, so it was a fairly good assumption. :)


Not all women are 'ladies'.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 3:53 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html
>
>
> Rob
>
>

2239 - Ye olde ships lantern. Hung in the hold/below decks. Designed so
the pitch and yaw didn't tip over the candle/lantern inside. Outer cage
to keep heat away from other items.

2240 - Well locally that would be a small sized paper bag from the old
Red/White food store chain, Also used as a decorative version of the old
brown bag for your lunch...

2241 - Roof anchor to tie off on while working on a pitched roof. Wish
MANY more of them were installed. Would make vent operations MUCH easier
in the fire service...

2242 - Fence stretcher?

2243 - Looks somewhat like an old book binders clamp. Mounted so that
you could clamp the stack of pages and sew the binding.


--
Steve W.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 1:21 AM

In article <[email protected]>, willshak@
00hvc.rr.com says...
>
> PJMurphy wrote the following:
> > On May 12, 11:36 pm, PJMurphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Could the gimbal device (#1) have been used for a shop's clock?
> >>
> >> An accurate clock was essential for calculating longitude. By fixing
> >> it to the ship, tilting action would cause the mechanism to vary the
> >> time, thus producing errors in navigation. The gimbal would allow the
> >> clock to remain in a set horizontal position, and allow it to remain
> >> accurate.
> >>
> >
> > EDIT: ship's clock, not shop's clock.
> >
>
> Or shop's click.

The development of a chronometer sufficiently accurate for navigation
was a major undertaking. In the early 1700s a prize of 20,000 UKP was
offered (of course Parliament weaseled out of actually paying it) for a
reasonably accurate means of determining longitude. While an early
attempt using a pendulum clock did require a gimbal, the successful
designs used a balance wheel and didn't need a gimbal any more than a
Rolex needs one (note that a Rolex is certified chronometer and is quite
adequate for celestial navigation).

aa

"anorton"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 8:59 PM


"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > 2239: Ships lamp, always stays "up"?
>>
>> Correct, it's a gimbaled lamp for a ship.
>>
> Not to question the experts, but ....
> Why would a lamp holder that was hung as a pendulum
> need gimbals? The gimbals would always keep the lamps
> orientation relative to the protective cage the same, so they
> are redundant. The old timers were smarter than that..
> Art
>

It could be really, really bad on a wooden ship to have the oil slosh out of
the lamp past the burning wick. As long as the force on the lamp is alway
perpendicular to the base, the oil will not slosh to the side. As you said,
this would USUALLY be the case if you just hung the lamp on a rope (the rope
exerts the force perpendicular to lamp base even when the lamp is swinging
in a regular fashion). However if the ship suddenly lurches laterally, or if
the lamp knocks into an object, then there is momentarily a component of
force that is not perpendicular to the base and the oil could slosh around.
The gimbal is not completely immune to these effects either, but it provides
an extra degree of protection

Actually this is a very interesting and complicated physics problem where
you can treat the gimbal lamp on a rope as a triple pendulum consisting of
the rope, a rigid body (the cage), and the lamp on the gimbal. The motion
and forces at the end due to acceleration at the top can be very chaotic.
This video illustrates this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DK1Eayyj_c
And here is a 1hr 20min MIT lecture if you want to understand it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJroTmg1_c&feature=related

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

16/05/2011 10:12 PM


Myron Buck wrote:
>
> On May 17, 3:29 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Not all women are 'ladies'.
> >
>
> And not all 'ladies' are women....


True. Some are girls, AKA 'Young ladies' ;-)


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

Pw

PJMurphy

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 8:36 PM

Could the gimbal device (#1) have been used for a shop's clock?

An accurate clock was essential for calculating longitude. By fixing
it to the ship, tilting action would cause the mechanism to vary the
time, thus producing errors in navigation. The gimbal would allow the
clock to remain in a set horizontal position, and allow it to remain
accurate.

Pw

PJMurphy

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 8:38 PM

On May 12, 11:36=A0pm, PJMurphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Could the gimbal device (#1) have been used for a shop's clock?
>
> An accurate clock was essential for calculating longitude. By fixing
> it to the ship, tilting action would cause the mechanism to vary the
> time, thus producing errors in navigation. The gimbal would allow the
> clock to remain in a set horizontal position, and allow it to remain
> accurate.

EDIT: ship's clock, not shop's clock.

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

17/05/2011 3:24 PM


Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 May 2011 20:29:10 +0100, Michael A. Terrell
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Lobby Dosser wrote:
> >>
> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> > Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I
> >> saw
> >> >> > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
> >> >> > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags,
> >> including
> >> >> > false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
> >> >> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How does he know they were ladies?
> >>
> >> At this particular agency diversity did not extend to guys wearing bras
> >> and
> >> panties, so it was a fairly good assumption. :)
> >
> >
> > Not all women are 'ladies'.
> >
> You've been Watching Little Britain AICM BRITISH pound Sterling.


No. I've never even heard of it, till now. I don't watch much TV,
after being a Broadcast engineer at three TV stations over the years
where I had to watch almost everything we aired to look for problems.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

MB

Myron Buck

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

14/05/2011 6:23 PM

On May 15, 5:34=A0am, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Myron Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> Here's a reassurance of the gimbaled lamphttp://tinyurl.com/3j73mnp
>
> --riverman
>
> Hmmm. =A0I hadn't considered that the lamp may hang from a peg
> and rest against a beam or bulkhead. =A0That would necessitate the
> internal gimbals.
> Art

Yeah, I saw that too. Got me wondering where I got it in my head that
the entire thing hung from a chain...

--riverman

ww

willshak

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 12:22 AM

PJMurphy wrote the following:
> On May 12, 11:36 pm, PJMurphy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Could the gimbal device (#1) have been used for a shop's clock?
>>
>> An accurate clock was essential for calculating longitude. By fixing
>> it to the ship, tilting action would cause the mechanism to vary the
>> time, thus producing errors in navigation. The gimbal would allow the
>> clock to remain in a set horizontal position, and allow it to remain
>> accurate.
>>
>
> EDIT: ship's clock, not shop's clock.
>

Or shop's click.


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

MB

Myron Buck

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

16/05/2011 6:00 PM

On May 17, 3:29=A0am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0Not all women are 'ladies'.
>

And not all 'ladies' are women....

-riverman

Mm

Markem

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 9:24 AM

On Thu, 12 May 2011 10:20:58 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>> 2239: Ships lamp, always stays "up"?
>
>Correct, it's a gimbaled lamp for a ship.
>
>> 2240: Brown Paper Bag? Lunch sack
>
>It's not a lunch sack but it is a brown paper bag, it has a very particular
>purpose.
>
>
>Rob

2240 Luminary, you put sand and candle and line a walkway with them at
Christmas time?

Mark

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 7:12 AM

2242 Starting with the name, a play on words, Chain, changer... I'd
guess this is a tool to help change a chain... To take the tension off
of a removable link in a chain so the removable link can be undone.

On 5/12/2011 5:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html
>
>
> Rob
>
>

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 10:17 AM


> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html


>2239. Some sort of compass or candle gimbal?

The last word in your guess is correct.

>2241. Safety attachment for the top of the roof to tie your harness into.

Yes

>2243. I'm guessing it's for book binding.

I've shown this to a few people and this is the most popular suggestion for
it.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 10:19 AM


> 2242 Starting with the name, a play on words, Chain, changer... I'd
> guess this is a tool to help change a chain... To take the tension off of
> a removable link in a chain so the removable link can be undone.


Sounds like a good use for it, hard to say if it's for tire chains or some
other specific use, I did a patent search but didn't find anything.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 10:20 AM


> 2239: Ships lamp, always stays "up"?

Correct, it's a gimbaled lamp for a ship.

> 2240: Brown Paper Bag? Lunch sack

It's not a lunch sack but it is a brown paper bag, it has a very particular
purpose.


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 10:30 AM

2239 artistic display? note, hinge on front of exterior
frame. Early oil lamp maybe.
2240 the ever present paper bag
2241 not sure, maybe screws onto a beam, to provide a hook
loop?
2242, chain tightener?
2243, clamp for flat items, but what? Handle on right is
broken.
2244 from a yard game, ring toss?


--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this
set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html


Rob


SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 10:32 AM

Oh, yes, books. Similar device a the Grandin Building, in
Palmyra, NY.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0d53f859-e1ba-40c6-abce-cb21aa9942a1@r35g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
On May 11, 11:04 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this
> set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html
>
> Rob

2243. I'm guessing it's for book binding.
Karl

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 11:04 AM


>>> 2240: Brown Paper Bag? Lunch sack
>>
>> It's not a lunch sack but it is a brown paper bag, it has a very
>> particular purpose.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2240: Burn bag for classified documents.


Correct, these are used by the government for when they burn old documents
instead of shredding them.


Rob

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 11:04 AM

17/05/2011 10:07 PM

On Tue, 17 May 2011 17:30:04 -0700, Rich Grise wrote:

> There's an East LA, and it's a Mexican slum.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMfYNqJgO8Y>

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

pf

pyotr filipivich

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 11:04 AM

17/05/2011 3:43 PM

Gunner Asch <[email protected]> on Mon, 16 May 2011 23:46:30 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>
>And so on and so forth.
>
>Everyone needs to go there, once.
>Then they can go home, kiss the ground and be thankful they dont live
>in.......West Hollywood.

And now I'm wondering ... is there an East Hollywood, and what is
it like?

You know how the world says "The Nuts are in the US" and the US
says "the nuts are in California", and the Californian say "Nope -
LA." But Angelenos say "Hollywood" while Hollywood say "Now, West
Hollywood, that's the strange attractor for odd behavior."
So where do the West Hollywoodies point when they want to say
"Those folks, now they are really strange!"?

Besides Kansas?

pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 11:04 AM

17/05/2011 10:06 PM

On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:43:58 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote:

> And now I'm wondering ... is there an East Hollywood, and what is it
> like?

http://easthollywood.net/dev/

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

rM

[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 11:04 AM

23/05/2011 3:42 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
pyotr filipivich <[email protected]> wrote:
> So where do the West Hollywoodies point when they want to say
>"Those folks, now they are really strange!"?
>
> Besides Kansas?

Kansas is actually the majority answer, the rest are split between NYC
and Mars (the planet).


--
The problem with socialism is there's always
someone with less ability and more need.

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 11:04 AM

17/05/2011 5:30 PM

pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Gunner Asch <[email protected]> on Mon, 16 May 2011 23:46:30 -0700

>>
>>And so on and so forth.
>>
>>Everyone needs to go there, once.
>>Then they can go home, kiss the ground and be thankful they dont live
>>in.......West Hollywood.
>
> And now I'm wondering ... is there an East Hollywood, and what is
> it like?
>
There's an East LA, and it's a Mexican slum.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

GA

Gunner Asch

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 11:04 AM

16/05/2011 11:46 PM

On Tue, 17 May 2011 00:25:51 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:12:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Myron Buck wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On May 17, 3:29 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Not all women are 'ladies'.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> And not all 'ladies' are women....
>> >
>> >
>> > True. Some are girls, AKA 'Young ladies' ;-)
>>
>> Some of them..West Hollywood comes to mind..arent even female.
>
>
> Your typical West Coast 'TV sets'? ;-)

Typical...no...typical for West Hollywierd....yes indeed.
West Hollywood has more wierd packed in it per square mile than just
about any city in the world. With perhaps the exception of DC, Chicago
and Bankok, Thailand

Not all of it is "bad" wierd..but wierd it is.

http://www.gogaywesthollywood.com/

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g33252-Activities-West_Hollywood_California.html

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/SugnZ-ZGB7O/Rihanna+Out+Shopping+West+Hollywood/Plu2pMQGwhd/Rihanna

And so on and so forth.

Everyone needs to go there, once.
Then they can go home, kiss the ground and be thankful they dont live
in.......West Hollywood.


Gunner



--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 2:43 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > 2239: Ships lamp, always stays "up"?
>
> Correct, it's a gimbaled lamp for a ship.
>
Not to question the experts, but ....
Why would a lamp holder that was hung as a pendulum
need gimbals? The gimbals would always keep the lamps
orientation relative to the protective cage the same, so they
are redundant. The old timers were smarter than that..
Art

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 12:59 PM

Rob H. wrote:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html

Howcome both of my browsers (seamonkey and mozilla) give me
"Page not found
Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog What is it? does not
exist."

?
Thanks,
Rich


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 5:00 PM


> Howcome both of my browsers (seamonkey and mozilla) give me
> "Page not found
> Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog What is it? does not
> exist."

Blogger was down for maintenance for almost 24 hours starting yesterday
afternoon but it looks like things are working again now, don't know what
the problem was.

I haven't been able to verify either the chain tool or the large clamp, the
rest of the answers for this week along with a couple of videos can be seen
here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html#answers


Rob



RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 5:11 PM

> P.S. Can you set things up so the guesses at the bottom of the
> page don't show up until the official answers have been
> released? I'd really not have them there until I have my
> answers posted. :-) (I'll actually read them before I got though
> those in the newsgroup -- but after I post this.


The way that I've currently been linking, the comments show up at the bottom
of the page by default, I'll go back to my old way of linking in which you
don't see them unless you click on the comments link at the bottom of the
page. Sometimes there is good information in the comments about some of the
unidentified items, so I don't want to turn them off or discourage people
from posting there.


Rob

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

14/05/2011 2:34 PM


"Myron Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Here's a reassurance of the gimbaled lamp
http://tinyurl.com/3j73mnp

--riverman

Hmmm. I hadn't considered that the lamp may hang from a peg
and rest against a beam or bulkhead. That would necessitate the
internal gimbals.
Art

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

14/05/2011 11:48 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>>> 2240: Brown Paper Bag? Lunch sack
>>>
>>> It's not a lunch sack but it is a brown paper bag, it has a very
>>> particular purpose.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> 2240: Burn bag for classified documents.
>
>
> Correct, these are used by the government for when they burn old documents
> instead of shredding them.
>
>
> Rob


Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw Purina
bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more interesting is
the items which make their way Into burn bags, including false teeth, ladies
underwear, and washing machine motors.

--
"I'm the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo ..."

AT

Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

15/05/2011 6:12 AM


> Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
> Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
> interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags, including
> false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.

I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

15/05/2011 10:31 PM

"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
>> Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
>> interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags, including
>> false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
>
> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?
>
>

The newsletter had a list of odd stuff found. Add coveralls and steel toed
boots to my previous list. I'm not sure, but I suspect there were some
disgruntled employees. There were chutes all over the place leading to an
underground conveyor that carried everything out to a chemical disposal.
Stuff like the washing machine motor damaged the conveyer (must have come
fro a top floor) and the other stuff got sifted out somehow - including the
.38 ammo. Some agencies had 'collectors' or collection points and clear
waste baskets that had to be placed on your desk when you were not there.

--
"I'm the man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo ..."

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

15/05/2011 10:32 PM

"Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>>
>> > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
>> > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
>> > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags, including
>> > false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
>>
>> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
>> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?
>
>
> How does he know they were ladies?

At this particular agency diversity did not extend to guys wearing bras and
panties, so it was a fairly good assumption. :)

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

16/05/2011 11:14 AM

Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>>>
>>> > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I saw
>>> > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
>>> > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags,
>>> > including false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
>>>
>>> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
>>> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?
>>
>> How does he know they were ladies?
>
> At this particular agency diversity did not extend to guys wearing bras
> and panties, so it was a fairly good assumption. :)

How did they know they were wearing bras and panties? Did they have those
X-ray vision machines? Or maybe they skin-searched everybody who had a lumpy
chest?

Thanks,
Rich

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

16/05/2011 8:04 PM

Myron Buck wrote:
> On May 17, 3:29 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
>>
>> Not all women are 'ladies'.
>
> And not all 'ladies' are women....
>
Yabbut, can you tell the difference?

http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/

Cheers!
Rich

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willshak

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 11:31 AM

Rob H. wrote the following:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html
>
>
> Rob
>
>
2244 Looks like a slide hammer of sorts. Put the point on a spot where
you wants to punch a hole. Holding the wooden top vertically, slide the
big metal ring up and let it drop to drive the point into the material.

--

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ES

"Esra Sdrawkcab"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

17/05/2011 6:50 PM

On Mon, 16 May 2011 20:29:10 +0100, Michael A. Terrell
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Actually the government will use almost anything as a burn bag. I
>> saw
>> >> > Purina bags used at an agency that never says anything. What's more
>> >> > interesting is the items which make their way Into burn bags,
>> including
>> >> > false teeth, ladies underwear, and washing machine motors.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not really asking... Just being a wise-guy...
>> >> How do you know? Been reading things in burn bags lately?
>> >
>> >
>> > How does he know they were ladies?
>>
>> At this particular agency diversity did not extend to guys wearing bras
>> and
>> panties, so it was a fairly good assumption. :)
>
>
> Not all women are 'ladies'.
>
You've been Watching Little Britain AICM BRITISH pound Sterling.


--
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ES

"Esra Sdrawkcab"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

18/05/2011 3:20 PM

On Tue, 17 May 2011 20:24:44 +0100, Michael A. Terrell
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Esra Sdrawkcab wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 16 May 2011 20:29:10 +0100, Michael A. Terrell
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
[]
>> >
>> > Not all women are 'ladies'.
>> >
>> You've been Watching Little Britain AICM BRITISH pound Sterling.
>
>
> No. I've never even heard of it, till now. I don't watch much TV,
> after being a Broadcast engineer at three TV stations over the years
> where I had to watch almost everything we aired to look for problems.
>
It's a quote
"We're layyyydees"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RWOIVm4MfI
(poor quality, so quite appropriate!)


--
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DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

13/05/2011 4:50 AM

On 2011-05-12, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2239) Looks like a container for an illuminating fire which
is suspended from a chain. Perhaps oil-soaked reeds in the cup
in the center?

The ball chain hanging from it in the first shot does not
belong. :-)

2240) Well ... aside from being a paper bag folded flat for storage ...

I suspect that it is a "burn bag" -- used in a place which
handles classified materials when something is still classified,
but needs to be disposed of. Things are collected in the burn
bag in the security file cabinet until the right time, and it is
then sent to the proper facility for secure destruction.

I have also seen bags printed for "Blast Mix" (Ammonium Nitrate
fertilizer and fuel oil which make an explosive, as Tim McVeigh
knew all too well.

2241) This looks like a fold-up safety warning -- the kind which might
be put on a floor which has just been mopped and waxed, to warn
that it is a slipping hazard for a while.

2242) This looks as though it is intended to tighten a chain binding
a load in place. At a guess, a link at one end of the chain
slips over the oval metal extension and is trapped there with the
wing nut on the threaded stud. The chain extends along the
handle, around whatever is being bound, and the other end
connects to the hook after which the ratchet is used to tighten
the chain around the bound load.

2243) Now this is a weird one. It looks:

1) As though one of the two cranks has been broken.

2) That it bolts down to a surface (perhaps a ship deck.)

3) That the cranks and screws below them are used to
extend downward and clamp something to the deck.
Perhaps a pair of lifeboats, perhaps a gangplank, or
something similar.

4) Whatever it was used for -- it was not intended to be on an
oriental rug as itis in the photo. :-)

2244) I don't know how much of the taper is a result of the angle of
the photo and the use of a wide angle lens, but if the taper
is not as extreme as it appears, I would suggest that this is the
sort of thing carried around a park or other grounds to spear
and pick up paper trash -- spent tickets, candy wrappers, and
such. The length is about right for the task. The point is
perhaps a bit too elaborate -- but perhaps someone got tied of
his falling apart and decided to fix it for once and for all.


Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.


P.S. Can you set things up so the guesses at the bottom of the
page don't show up until the official answers have been
released? I'd really not have them there until I have my
answers posted. :-) (I'll actually read them before I got though
those in the newsgroup -- but after I post this.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

14/05/2011 12:19 AM

On 2011-05-13, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> P.S. Can you set things up so the guesses at the bottom of the
>> page don't show up until the official answers have been
>> released? I'd really not have them there until I have my
>> answers posted. :-) (I'll actually read them before I got though
>> those in the newsgroup -- but after I post this.
>
>
> The way that I've currently been linking, the comments show up at the bottom
> of the page by default, I'll go back to my old way of linking in which you
> don't see them unless you click on the comments link at the bottom of the
> page. Sometimes there is good information in the comments about some of the
> unidentified items, so I don't want to turn them off or discourage people
> from posting there.

I *do* read them -- *after* I have sent off my post to the
newsgroups. I just don't want to see them before then, so my own
guesses do not have a chance of being contaminated with those of others. :-)

Thanks,
DoN.

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Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 12/05/2011 5:04 AM

12/05/2011 7:38 AM

2239: Ships lamp, always stays "up"?
2240: Brown Paper Bag? Lunch sack
2241:
2242: A door lock?
2243:
2244:

On 05/12/2011 05:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with the fourth and fifth items in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/05/set-388.html
>
>
> Rob
>
>

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to Michael Kenefick on 12/05/2011 7:38 AM

17/05/2011 12:25 AM


Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:12:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >Myron Buck wrote:
> >>
> >> On May 17, 3:29 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Not all women are 'ladies'.
> >> >
> >>
> >> And not all 'ladies' are women....
> >
> >
> > True. Some are girls, AKA 'Young ladies' ;-)
>
> Some of them..West Hollywood comes to mind..arent even female.


Your typical West Coast 'TV sets'? ;-)


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Teflon coated.

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Gunner Asch

in reply to Michael Kenefick on 12/05/2011 7:38 AM

16/05/2011 9:07 PM

On Mon, 16 May 2011 22:12:05 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Myron Buck wrote:
>>
>> On May 17, 3:29 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Not all women are 'ladies'.
>> >
>>
>> And not all 'ladies' are women....
>
>
> True. Some are girls, AKA 'Young ladies' ;-)

Some of them..West Hollywood comes to mind..arent even female.

Gunner

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