I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
out there has done this in the past.
We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
where I go for an ISP provider.
So far no one has given me a straight answer
I dropped ATT several years ago and still receive email addressed to my @sbcglobal.net address. I did nothing to forward that email account. I now use gmail.
Larry
On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:52:05 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>
> out there has done this in the past.
>
>
>
> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>
> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
>
> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>
> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>
>
>
> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>
> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>
> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>
> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>
>
>
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>
> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
>
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
Keith Nuttle wrote:
> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
> out there has done this in the past.
>
> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>
> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
I also have BellSouth. Or ATT as the new name is. My email service
is very spotty, Usually 1 or 2 days a week it does not work. No help
from ATT help. I started an email address under AIM.Com and it works
fine. My problem started when I upgraded to the new service under ATT
where the land line and internet all is together through the internet
for a total of $67 a month.
--
GW Ross
I think you had better start lining
your hat with tinfoil.
On 9/23/2013 9:52 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
> out there has done this in the past.
>
> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>
> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
Probably not as part of your address is linked directly to the company
that you are using now. For instance If you moved to another city and
to an address that has the same number and street as you currently have
you would not receive your snail mail unless you also told every one
that the city has changed also. You could not keep the same old city
name part of your old address.
Having said that you might also be interested in knowing that my ISP is
AT&T and has been for years. My father had the same provider.
Recently, 2 years ago, he moved in with us and although he has an email
address with the same company it is now under my account. He decided to
drop his internet service when he moved in with us.
AT&T would not guarantee that he could keep his old email address since
he was dropping his service, So, a few months before dropping his
service we added a very similarly named email address to my account for
him. We added a "1" to the end of the prefix part of his then current
email address. From [email protected] to [email protected]. We did this
so that he could inform all of his hundreds of email friends of his
email address change with as little disruption and confusion to them as
possible. All they needed to do was add the "1" to his old address.
That went pretty smoothly. Until he actually dropped his old service he
was able to check his old email address for stragglers that may not have
gotten his initial #7 1/2 shot shotgun blast of out going emails with
information of his email address change.
On a similar note, you cannot always keep your old telephone land line
number if you change cities and retain the same provider.
On 9/23/2013 9:52 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
AT&T _owns and administers_ the email SERVER that the domain name
"sbcglobal.net" MX record(s) resolves to using the Internet's Domain
Name System.
AT THEIR WHIM AND FANCY ONLY, will you be able continue to configure an
email "client" to send and receive email through the AT&T owned email
"server".
At some point it the future, you will most assuredly have to give up
that email address.
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
> where I go for an ISP provider.
NO, except at AT&t's whim and fancy.
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
That is as straight an answer as anyone can give ... and from the
co-founder of the very first web based, third party DNS provider on the
Internet. :)
BTW, this issue (changing providers of Internet services like http,
smtp, ftp, et al) is the very reason we started "DNS Wizard" back in the
early nineties ... to keep companies, and savvy individuals, from being
at the mercy of ISP's when it became necessary to switch from one to
another.
--
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 9/23/2013 11:34 AM, TinWoodsmn wrote:
>
>
> "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>>> out there has done this in the past.
>>>
>>> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>>> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
>>> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>>> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>>>
>>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>>>
>>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>>
>>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>>
>> I also have BellSouth. Or ATT as the new name is. My email service
>> is very spotty, Usually 1 or 2 days a week it does not work. No help
>> from ATT help. I started an email address under AIM.Com and it works
>> fine. My problem started when I upgraded to the new service under ATT
>> where the land line and internet all is together through the internet
>> for a total of $67 a month.
>>
>> --
>> GW Ross
>>
>> I think you had better start lining
>> your hat with tinfoil.
>
> Fifteen months ago I left ATT for various and sundry reasons, changing
> to Comcast. ATT allowed me to retain my ATT address for FREE. I did
> this. Then I went to the ATT setup site for my ATT email and chose
> forwarding ALL of my messages to my new Comcast address. IT HAS WORKED
> FLAWLESSLY FOR 15 MONTHS. Try it, you'll like it. When I finally notify
> all message senders of my new address, I will cancel ATT.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
I pretty much got the same answer but they would guarantee how long that
would last. Apparently the email address is up for grabs when you quit
paying for it.
Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am
> sure someone out there has done this in the past.
>
> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email
> server addresses.
> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a
> company that
> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>
> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no
> answer: If I change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner,
> etc will I be able to continue to use the @sbcglobal.net
> address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW Yahoo account on the
> stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address
> regardless of where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
You've gotten plenty of answers so far and the answer is not
clearly no. In some cases they may allow you to forward the
mail to a new address but there's no obligation on their part.
A simple analogy... You buy a new house and move but you still
want to pickup your mail from your old mailbox. The new owner
will likely have a problem with that. The post office will
forward, and are obligated by law to do so, for a certain
amount of time, however ISP's have no such mandate.
Problem is even if they're generous and forward to your new
address, you really need to keep the old address for a year, a
complete cycle for renewals of yearly occurrances.
YMMV
Larry
On 9/23/2013 10:52 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
> out there has done this in the past.
>
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
Straight answer it to keep paying ATT or BellSouth and just use their
server for email.
We have a similar setup at work. We keep our @XXXYYY.com email with our
original ISP but use Verizon servers for both outgoing mail and web
access.
You can take advantage of the faster service by your cable provider, but
to keep the old email addresses, you have to keep paying that ISP as
they are doing the hosting and routing for those addresses. Everything
else will come from the cable servers and be piped through their wires.
TinWoodsmn wrote:
>
>
> "G. Ross"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>>> out there has done this in the past.
>>>
>>> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>>> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
>>> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>>> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>>>
>>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>>>
>>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>>
>>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>>
>> I also have BellSouth. Or ATT as the new name is. My email service is
>> very spotty, Usually 1 or 2 days a week it does not work. No help from
>> ATT help. I started an email address under AIM.Com and it works fine. My
>> problem started when I upgraded to the new service under ATT where the
>> land line and internet all is together through the internet for a total of
>> $67 a month.
>>
>> --
>> GW Ross
>>
>> I think you had better start lining
>> your hat with tinfoil.
>
> Fifteen months ago I left ATT for various and sundry reasons, changing to
> Comcast. ATT allowed me to retain my ATT address for FREE. I did this. Then
> I went to the ATT setup site for my ATT email and chose forwarding ALL of my
> messages to my new Comcast address. IT HAS WORKED FLAWLESSLY FOR 15 MONTHS.
> Try it, you'll like it. When I finally notify all message senders of my new
> address, I will cancel ATT.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
>
Thanks. I'll try that.
--
GW Ross
I think you had better start lining
your hat with tinfoil.
On 9/23/2013 10:52 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
> out there has done this in the past.
>
> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>
> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
No, because that part of the email name is translated (by the use of a
"name server") to a physical network address. Think of the complexity
of routing email to the right place if what you proposed was allowed.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:52:05 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
Straight answer = NO.
--
This message was for rec.woodworking - if it appears in homeownershub
they ripped it off.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:52:05 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> So far no one has given me a straight answer
To expand on my previous short answer, your address is converted into one
in the range 216.76.0.0 - 216.79.255.255. Those addresses are the
address of BellSouth. To learn how all this works, take a look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
--
This message was for rec.woodworking - if it appears in homeownershub
they ripped it off.
On 9/23/2013 11:56 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:52:05 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>
>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>
> Straight answer = NO.
>
I take it that it can not be done. ;-)
While Tim suggest a way it could be done using a free ATT account, I
think we will stay with ATT for a while. The free att account sounds
like a way to change, not to stay with the address.
Leon wrote:
> On 9/23/2013 11:34 AM, TinWoodsmn wrote:
>>
>>
>> "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>>> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>>>> out there has done this in the past.
>>>>
>>>> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>>>> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server
>>>> addresses.
>>>> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>>>> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>>>>
>>>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>>>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>>>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>>>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>>>>
>>>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address
>>>> regardless of
>>>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>>>
>>>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>>>
>>> I also have BellSouth. Or ATT as the new name is. My email service
>>> is very spotty, Usually 1 or 2 days a week it does not work. No help
>>> from ATT help. I started an email address under AIM.Com and it works
>>> fine. My problem started when I upgraded to the new service under ATT
>>> where the land line and internet all is together through the internet
>>> for a total of $67 a month.
>>>
>>> --
>>> GW Ross
>>>
>>> I think you had better start lining
>>> your hat with tinfoil.
>>
>> Fifteen months ago I left ATT for various and sundry reasons, changing
>> to Comcast. ATT allowed me to retain my ATT address for FREE. I did
>> this. Then I went to the ATT setup site for my ATT email and chose
>> forwarding ALL of my messages to my new Comcast address. IT HAS WORKED
>> FLAWLESSLY FOR 15 MONTHS. Try it, you'll like it. When I finally notify
>> all message senders of my new address, I will cancel ATT.
>>
>> Tin Woodsmn
>
> I pretty much got the same answer but they would guarantee how long
> that would last. Apparently the email address is up for grabs when
> you quit paying for it.
>
>
At least in some cases, they wait 6 months until it is up for grabs.
TinWoodsmn wrote:
>
>
> "G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>>> out there has done this in the past.
>>>
>>> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>>> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
>>> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>>> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>>>
>>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>>>
>>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address
>>> regardless of
>>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>>
>>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>>
>> I also have BellSouth. Or ATT as the new name is. My email service
>> is very spotty, Usually 1 or 2 days a week it does not work. No help
>> from ATT help. I started an email address under AIM.Com and it works
>> fine. My problem started when I upgraded to the new service under
>> ATT where the land line and internet all is together through the
>> internet for a total of $67 a month.
>>
>> --
>> GW Ross
>>
>> I think you had better start lining
>> your hat with tinfoil.
>
> Fifteen months ago I left ATT for various and sundry reasons, changing
> to Comcast. ATT allowed me to retain my ATT address for FREE. I did
> this. Then I went to the ATT setup site for my ATT email and chose
> forwarding ALL of my messages to my new Comcast address. IT HAS WORKED
> FLAWLESSLY FOR 15 MONTHS.
Only because ATT is making it work (by participating as a
"forwarder"--my word). Email does not work that way in general.
> Try it, you'll like it. When I finally notify all message senders of
> my new address, I will cancel ATT.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
Gramps' shop wrote:
> I dropped ATT several years ago and still receive email addressed to my @sbcglobal.net address. I did nothing to forward that email account.
Yes, the email messages each find their targets by magic! Wondrous,
isn't it?
> I now use gmail.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:52:05 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>>
>> out there has done this in the past.
>>
>>
>>
>> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>>
>> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
>>
>> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>>
>> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>>
>>
>>
>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>>
>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>>
>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>>
>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>>
>>
>>
>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>>
>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>
>>
>>
>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
On 9/24/2013 9:46 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/23/2013 9:52 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>
> AT&T _owns and administers_ the email SERVER that the domain name
> "sbcglobal.net" MX record(s) resolves to using the Internet's Domain
> Name System.
>
> AT THEIR WHIM AND FANCY ONLY, will you be able continue to configure an
> email "client" to send and receive email through the AT&T owned email
> "server".
>
> At some point it the future, you will most assuredly have to give up
> that email address.
>
>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>
> NO, except at AT&t's whim and fancy.
>
>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>
> That is as straight an answer as anyone can give ... and from the
> co-founder of the very first web based, third party DNS provider on the
> Internet. :)
>
> BTW, this issue (changing providers of Internet services like http,
> smtp, ftp, et al) is the very reason we started "DNS Wizard" back in the
> early nineties ... to keep companies, and savvy individuals, from being
> at the mercy of ISP's when it became necessary to switch from one to
> another.
>
KeithNuttle:
Thanks for the responses. I did a lot of web searches and had
conflicting information. It is logical that the answer was NO.
You can always count on the rec.woodworking, even when it is off topic
like my question.
Keith
"G. Ross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> I do not know were else to asked this question, and I am sure someone
>> out there has done this in the past.
>>
>> We currently use Bellsouth as an IPS and have email with
>> pop.att.yahoo.com and smtp.att.yahoo.com as the email server addresses.
>> Our emails end in @sbcglobal.net. (sbcglobal was a company that
>> merged with ATT about 10 years ago)
>>
>> The question I have not been able to find a yes or no answer: If I
>> change to a non ATT provider, Time Warner, etc will I be able to
>> continue to use the @sbcglobal.net address, as SUB ACCOUNTS in the NEW
>> Yahoo account on the stmp and pop servers of the new provider.
>>
>> OR is there a way to keep using the @sbcglobal.net address regardless of
>> where I go for an ISP provider.
>>
>> So far no one has given me a straight answer
>
> I also have BellSouth. Or ATT as the new name is. My email service is
> very spotty, Usually 1 or 2 days a week it does not work. No help from
> ATT help. I started an email address under AIM.Com and it works fine. My
> problem started when I upgraded to the new service under ATT where the
> land line and internet all is together through the internet for a total of
> $67 a month.
>
> --
> GW Ross
>
> I think you had better start lining
> your hat with tinfoil.
Fifteen months ago I left ATT for various and sundry reasons, changing to
Comcast. ATT allowed me to retain my ATT address for FREE. I did this. Then
I went to the ATT setup site for my ATT email and chose forwarding ALL of my
messages to my new Comcast address. IT HAS WORKED FLAWLESSLY FOR 15 MONTHS.
Try it, you'll like it. When I finally notify all message senders of my new
address, I will cancel ATT.
Tin Woodsmn