Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its goodies.
That was 1986.
Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbox/
;~)
And a long way to go to get to this.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
I am using white oak for the solid wood components and cherry for the
exterior plywood panels. At the moment the top of the desk will be a
complementary color, plastic laminate. The desk top will be
approximately 32" x 96"
Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails and
center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they work
out that way. ;~)
On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to get
to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be assembled
tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry panels.
The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387897986/in/set-72157622991960362/
The rails to the back face frames with Domino tenons, a pretty cool
joint. It naturally forms a rabbet with its lap joints strengthened
with the Donimos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387898578/in/set-72157622991960362/
What the joint looks like assembled.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899142/in/set-72157622991960362/
And the finished back face frame showing the rabbet that goes all the
way around the opening. Note the dado's on the bottom sides of both
stiles. These will receive the side panels.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899782/in/set-72157622991960362/
As a side note, all of the kerf cuts in the plywood work surface are a
result of cutting the Wilsonart plastic laminate for the airplane
cabinet project. The Festool fine tooth blade for plywood cut the
laminate like a hot knife through butter with absolutely no chipping.
On 1/14/2013 11:38 AM, RP wrote:
> That's gonna be real sweet! I love contrasting colors like that. I just did an Urn with a cherry box surrounmded with Maple columns and top and bottom. Came out pretty nice if I say so myself. Only charged them $100
>
> RP
>
Thank you! White Oak and cherry are not two woods that you would
normally think would go together well. Three years ago I built a
bedroom that used white and red oak and cherry. It did not turn your
stomach. ;~)
I am looking more for the contrast and color differences. Cherry and
maple go together real well but I wanted something darker.
On 1/14/2013 1:02 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/14/13 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails and
>> center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they work
>> out that way. ;~)
>
> I absolutely love the curves on that tall cabinet and can't wait to see
> the finished results.
Thank you, I can't wait either. ;~) I have been putting this off since
we moved into our new home two years ago.
> You should have pictures of the finished product in a couple weeks,
> right? :-p
Absolutely :~0
On 1/14/2013 1:01 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its
>> goodies. That was 1986.
>>
>> Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
>> ;~)
>>
>> And a long way to go to get to this.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
> A two person desk? I see two chairs there. If I had to work that
> closely with someone, it would not be a good situation.
Yup. My wife. Our work areas are pretty well separated, I have the
garage she has the second floor for quilting.
> It will match the bed.
>
>
>
Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 1/16/2013 3:53 PM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
>>>> units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to
>>>> get to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be
>>>> assembled tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry
>>>> panels.
>>>>
>>>> The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387897986/in/set-7215762299196
>>>> 03 62/
>>>>
>>>> The rails to the back face frames with Domino tenons, a pretty cool
>>>> joint. It naturally forms a rabbet with its lap joints strengthened
>>>> with the Donimos.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387898578/in/set-7215762299196
>>>> 03 62/
>>>>
>>>> What the joint looks like assembled.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899142/in/set-7215762299196
>>>> 03 62/
>>>>
>>>> And the finished back face frame showing the rabbet that goes all
>>>> the way around the opening. Note the dado's on the bottom sides of
>>>> both stiles. These will receive the side panels.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899782/in/set-7215762299196
>>>> 03 62/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a side note, all of the kerf cuts in the plywood work surface are
>>>> a result of cutting the Wilsonart plastic laminate for the airplane
>>>> cabinet project. The Festool fine tooth blade for plywood cut the
>>>> laminate like a hot knife through butter with absolutely no
>>>> chipping.
>>>
>>> Looks great so far. I like the joint with the dominoes. Looks real
>>> strong to me (nincompoop).
>>>
>>
>> I am sure this has been used long before me but I never saw one like
>> this before I came up with it about 14 months ago. Thank you Sketchup
>> for helping me visualize it. I have made 14 previous back face frames
>> this way in the past year or so, not counting the current project. I
>> am reeeeeeeeel happy with it.
>
> You should put that Sketchup file on the website ...
> (hint - so I can "borrow" it!)
>
Which file and what web site.?
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>
>> Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
>> units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to
>> get to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be
>> assembled tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry panels.
>>
>> The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
>
> Sure beats cutting mortices for loose tenons with a router, doesn't it. I
> don't have a domino cutter but if I did wood stuff for a living I sure
> would.
Considering that I have bought 3 cases of replacement Dominos in 5 and 6 mm
it sure does beat using a router in most cases. IIRC the 5 mm cases come
with 1800 Domino tenons. I have probably cut at least 4000 mortises.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its goodies.
> That was 1986.
>
> Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> ;~)
>
> And a long way to go to get to this.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
A two person desk? I see two chairs there. If I had to work that closely
with someone, it would not be a good situation.
It will match the bed.
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:57:02 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
Noticed the saw tracks on the sheet plywood to the right of that
picture. I'm assuming they're from your track saw. You get quite a bit
of use from that don't you? Makes me ask, do you ever miss cutting
sheet goods on the table saw?
On 1/15/2013 12:51 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/15/2013 11:54 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Do they have anything for keeping the sapwood in poplar from looking
>> like a lime popsicle after a clear coat?
>
> Yes! this one in particular. ;~)
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2007257/16238/general-finishes-wood-stain-water-based-espresso-stain-pint.aspx
Pfffft. "clear" ... like shellac, lacquer, etc. ;~)
But yes ... Java Gel Stain on poplar on poplar will too:
http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/CrftsManCh18.JPG
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:01:04 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
>A two person desk? I see two chairs there. If I had to work that closely
>with someone, it would not be a good situation.
Yeah, I noticed that and it's not a bad idea. Space to slide over to
some other peripheral or perhaps a second monitor. Worst case, a
second person could be sitting there taking part or helping you work.
Best case, you could be gaming against the person sitting beside you.
On 1/14/2013 11:12 AM, Leon wrote:
> Well than you again. Now if only my shop was a giant 3D printer.
What?? ... Festool hasn't come out with one yet? ;)
42F outside this morning, stayed 60F in the shop overnight of its own
accord. I'm sweating out here rasping, planing, sanding tits off chair
rails ... gonna have to take off the sweatshirt.
Walk outside to the house, freeze your ass off ...
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On 1/14/2013 11:19 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/14/2013 11:12 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> Well than you again. Now if only my shop was a giant 3D printer.
>
> What?? ... Festool hasn't come out with one yet? ;)
I thin we would know within moments of each other if Festool had one. LOL
>
> 42F outside this morning, stayed 60F in the shop overnight of its own
> accord. I'm sweating out here rasping, planing, sanding tits off chair
> rails ... gonna have to take off the sweatshirt.
We got down to 37, at leas that is what it was at 8:15 this morning, The
shop was 64 and my little heater brought it up to 67 and that was
feeling toasty.
>
> Walk outside to the house, freeze your ass off ...
>
Walk out where? D&R
On 1/14/2013 5:02 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Then there was this about 10 years ago, The long quarter columns on
>> the front corners of the chest pictured below were completely cut on
>> a TS and a touch of sandpaper to ease the edges. The capitols top
>> and bottom were done on a lathe.
>>
>
> I saw those on your site a long time ago - I love those two pictures! That
> is great work.
>
Thank you. I built a pair and they had to be designed to match an
existing dresser and chest of drawers. That was my design
interpretation also.
On 1/18/2013 2:10 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 1/18/2013 12:12 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:34:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>>> But to answer your question, I do not miss cutting full sheets of
>>>> plywood on my TS. I did that for about 25 years and wish I'd had
>>>> this alternative 24 years ago. Keep in mind that the track saw
>>>> could replace the TS if quality of cut was the only factor.
>>>
>>> I ask these questions in relation to my wheelchair. I can sit and
>>> feed sheet plywood through the tablesaw, but I can't move and run a
>>> track saw through plywood at the same time. I wish it was otherwise.
>>>
>>> Two years ago, I bought a TS55 to see if there was some way I could
>>> use it, but ended up exchanging it for an hl850e planer.
>>
>> I never tried to use a planer to cut boards Dave.
>
> Nor have I. But I did see someone try to do so with a joiner.
>
> It was in a junior high shop class around 1946. When the teacher saw the
> kid trying to cut through the board with the joiner he grabbed the kid, bent
> him over a table and broke the board with the kid's butt. As I said, it was
> 1946 and things were different corporal punishment-wise then. And no, I
> wasn't the kid.
>
>
The good old days, however It was 1969 for me. Use the jointer ONLY to
straighten or flatten a board, NEVER to clean up a cut or make the board
a specific thickness or width. Our shop teacher took base ball bats and
cut them long ways a few times to product 3~4 paddles.
On 1/16/2013 3:53 PM, Han wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>
>> Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
>> units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to
>> get to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be
>> assembled tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry panels.
>>
>> The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387897986/in/set-721576229919603
>> 62/
>>
>> The rails to the back face frames with Domino tenons, a pretty cool
>> joint. It naturally forms a rabbet with its lap joints strengthened
>> with the Donimos.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387898578/in/set-721576229919603
>> 62/
>>
>> What the joint looks like assembled.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899142/in/set-721576229919603
>> 62/
>>
>> And the finished back face frame showing the rabbet that goes all the
>> way around the opening. Note the dado's on the bottom sides of both
>> stiles. These will receive the side panels.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899782/in/set-721576229919603
>> 62/
>>
>>
>> As a side note, all of the kerf cuts in the plywood work surface are a
>> result of cutting the Wilsonart plastic laminate for the airplane
>> cabinet project. The Festool fine tooth blade for plywood cut the
>> laminate like a hot knife through butter with absolutely no chipping.
>
> Looks great so far. I like the joint with the dominoes. Looks real
> strong to me (nincompoop).
>
I am sure this has been used long before me but I never saw one like
this before I came up with it about 14 months ago. Thank you Sketchup
for helping me visualize it. I have made 14 previous back face frames
this way in the past year or so, not counting the current project. I am
reeeeeeeeel happy with it.
On 1/14/2013 3:34 PM, Han wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its
>> goodies.
>> That was 1986.
>>
>> Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbo
>> x/
>>
>> ;~)
>>
>> And a long way to go to get to this.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbo
>> x/
>>
>> I am using white oak for the solid wood components and cherry for the
>> exterior plywood panels. At the moment the top of the desk will be a
>> complementary color, plastic laminate. The desk top will be
>> approximately 32" x 96"
>>
>>
>> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails
>> and center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they
>> work out that way. ;~)
>
> Some gorgeous furniture coming soon!! Congrats on the design, Leon!!
>
Thank you Han. I'll try and keep my progress posted.
On 1/14/2013 11:09 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its goodies.
>> That was 1986.
>>
>> Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
>> ;~)
>>
>> And a long way to go to get to this.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
>>
>> I am using white oak for the solid wood components and cherry for the
>> exterior plywood panels. At the moment the top of the desk will be a
>> complementary color, plastic laminate. The desk top will be
>> approximately 32" x 96"
>>
>>
>> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails and
>> center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they work
>> out that way. ;~)
>
> Absolute tasty design ... can't imagine the execution anything but.
>
Well than you again. Now if only my shop was a giant 3D printer.
On 1/17/2013 12:25 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/17/2013 11:57 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Well the glue is setting and all 8 sides of the ddesk drawer units are
>> basically done. Next major task will be building drawers. The desk
>> portion could be finished by the end of next week, probably not. LOL
>>
>> These BTY are clocked 90 degrees...
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
>
> Gorgeous, as usual. Hell, you _will_ be finished next week.
>
> BTW, What does the "Y" stand for? <g,d,r>
>
Out of the clamps and dry fit with approximate distance placement.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8390822778/
Joint Detail
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389737835/in/photostream/
Swingman <[email protected]> writes:
>On 1/15/2013 11:27 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:20:30 -0600, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> I have never ever had any luck with purple heart staying purple. For me
>>> it always turns brown. It would look cool in purple heart and maybe,
>>> zebra! ;~)
>>
>> Woodcraft sold (and may still) a dye called, IIRC, burgundy. A little of
>> that on purpleheart does not change the color, but it keeps the color a
>> lot longer. In fact I'm still waiting after several years to see the
>> brown.
>
>Do they have anything for keeping the sapwood in poplar from looking
>like a lime popsicle after a clear coat?
Latex paint?
On 1/17/2013 11:57 AM, Leon wrote:
> Well the glue is setting and all 8 sides of the ddesk drawer units are
> basically done. Next major task will be building drawers. The desk
> portion could be finished by the end of next week, probably not. LOL
>
> These BTY are clocked 90 degrees...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
Gorgeous, as usual. Hell, you _will_ be finished next week.
BTW, What does the "Y" stand for? <g,d,r>
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On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
> Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its goodies.
> That was 1986.
>
> Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> ;~)
>
> And a long way to go to get to this.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> I am using white oak for the solid wood components and cherry for the
> exterior plywood panels. At the moment the top of the desk will be a
> complementary color, plastic laminate. The desk top will be
> approximately 32" x 96"
>
>
> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails and
> center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they work
> out that way. ;~)
Absolute tasty design ... can't imagine the execution anything but.
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Some years back I built a desk for out new computer and all its
> goodies.
> That was 1986.
>
> Yesterday I began cutting wood for the new office furniture.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380019629/in/photostream/lightbo
> x/
>
> ;~)
>
> And a long way to go to get to this.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbo
> x/
>
> I am using white oak for the solid wood components and cherry for the
> exterior plywood panels. At the moment the top of the desk will be a
> complementary color, plastic laminate. The desk top will be
> approximately 32" x 96"
>
>
> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails
> and center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they
> work out that way. ;~)
Some gorgeous furniture coming soon!! Congrats on the design, Leon!!
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>
> Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
> units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to
> get to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be
> assembled tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry panels.
>
> The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387897986/in/set-721576229919603
> 62/
>
> The rails to the back face frames with Domino tenons, a pretty cool
> joint. It naturally forms a rabbet with its lap joints strengthened
> with the Donimos.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387898578/in/set-721576229919603
> 62/
>
> What the joint looks like assembled.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899142/in/set-721576229919603
> 62/
>
> And the finished back face frame showing the rabbet that goes all the
> way around the opening. Note the dado's on the bottom sides of both
> stiles. These will receive the side panels.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899782/in/set-721576229919603
> 62/
>
>
> As a side note, all of the kerf cuts in the plywood work surface are a
> result of cutting the Wilsonart plastic laminate for the airplane
> cabinet project. The Festool fine tooth blade for plywood cut the
> laminate like a hot knife through butter with absolutely no chipping.
Looks great so far. I like the joint with the dominoes. Looks real
strong to me (nincompoop).
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 1/16/2013 3:53 PM, Han wrote:
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
>>> units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to
>>> get to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be
>>> assembled tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry
>>> panels.
>>>
>>> The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387897986/in/set-7215762299196
>>> 03 62/
>>>
>>> The rails to the back face frames with Domino tenons, a pretty cool
>>> joint. It naturally forms a rabbet with its lap joints strengthened
>>> with the Donimos.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387898578/in/set-7215762299196
>>> 03 62/
>>>
>>> What the joint looks like assembled.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899142/in/set-7215762299196
>>> 03 62/
>>>
>>> And the finished back face frame showing the rabbet that goes all
>>> the way around the opening. Note the dado's on the bottom sides of
>>> both stiles. These will receive the side panels.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8387899782/in/set-7215762299196
>>> 03 62/
>>>
>>>
>>> As a side note, all of the kerf cuts in the plywood work surface are
>>> a result of cutting the Wilsonart plastic laminate for the airplane
>>> cabinet project. The Festool fine tooth blade for plywood cut the
>>> laminate like a hot knife through butter with absolutely no
>>> chipping.
>>
>> Looks great so far. I like the joint with the dominoes. Looks real
>> strong to me (nincompoop).
>>
>
> I am sure this has been used long before me but I never saw one like
> this before I came up with it about 14 months ago. Thank you Sketchup
> for helping me visualize it. I have made 14 previous back face frames
> this way in the past year or so, not counting the current project. I
> am reeeeeeeeel happy with it.
You should put that Sketchup file on the website ...
(hint - so I can "borrow" it!)
--
Best regards
Han
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On 1/18/2013 12:12 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:34:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> But to answer your question, I do not miss cutting full sheets of
>> plywood on my TS. I did that for about 25 years and wish I'd had this
>> alternative 24 years ago. Keep in mind that the track saw could replace
>> the TS if quality of cut was the only factor.
>
> I ask these questions in relation to my wheelchair. I can sit and feed
> sheet plywood through the tablesaw, but I can't move and run a track
> saw through plywood at the same time. I wish it was otherwise.
>
> Two years ago, I bought a TS55 to see if there was some way I could
> use it, but ended up exchanging it for an hl850e planer.
I never tried to use a planer to cut boards Dave. How is that work'n
out fer yuh G,D,& R.
I know, I know. I saw low hanging fruit. LOL
>
> The only tracksaw method I can think of using is one of the self
> feeding types. The Mafell PSS 3100e is an example. And, despite the
> horrific cost of approximately $3000, it's something I'd seriously
> consider.
>
> http://www.core77.com/blog/tools/from_the_holy_cow_department_a_self-propelled_track_saw_24165.asp
>
Yeah! I have seen that saw, very cool!
On 1/17/2013 3:02 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/17/13 11:57 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Well the glue is setting and all 8 sides of the ddesk drawer units are
>> basically done. Next major task will be building drawers. The desk
>> portion could be finished by the end of next week, probably not. LOL
>>
>> These BTY are clocked 90 degrees...
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
>
> That band saw...... I hate you.
>
>
Whuuuuuuut? ;~)
On 1/17/2013 12:25 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/17/2013 11:57 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Well the glue is setting and all 8 sides of the ddesk drawer units are
>> basically done. Next major task will be building drawers. The desk
>> portion could be finished by the end of next week, probably not. LOL
>>
>> These BTY are clocked 90 degrees...
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
>
> Gorgeous, as usual. Hell, you _will_ be finished next week.
Perhaps.
>
> BTW, What does the "Y" stand for? <g,d,r>
>
Hell! And I paid particular attention to that and even was thinking of
you when I typed it. I have done that for so long that BTY looks right
and BTW looks wrong.
While we are at it, wheat does the extra d in ddesk stand for?? ;~)
On 1/15/2013 9:50 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:01:04 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
>> A two person desk? I see two chairs there. If I had to work that closely
>> with someone, it would not be a good situation.
>
> Yeah, I noticed that and it's not a bad idea. Space to slide over to
> some other peripheral or perhaps a second monitor. Worst case, a
> second person could be sitting there taking part or helping you work.
> Best case, you could be gaming against the person sitting beside you.
>
Actually my wife will be there more than any one else but I can now have
a client sitting next to me when reviewing drawings.
On 1/15/2013 11:54 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/15/2013 11:27 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:20:30 -0600, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> I have never ever had any luck with purple heart staying purple. For me
>>> it always turns brown. It would look cool in purple heart and maybe,
>>> zebra! ;~)
>>
>> Woodcraft sold (and may still) a dye called, IIRC, burgundy. A little of
>> that on purpleheart does not change the color, but it keeps the color a
>> lot longer. In fact I'm still waiting after several years to see the
>> brown.
>
> Do they have anything for keeping the sapwood in poplar from looking
> like a lime popsicle after a clear coat?
>
>
Yes! this one in particular. ;~)
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2007257/16238/general-finishes-wood-stain-water-based-espresso-stain-pint.aspx
On 1/15/2013 9:46 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:07:31 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> That's similar to something I've always wanted to build ~ a completely
> integrated computer station. Only one difference, my idea is a little
> more grandiose.
>
> I want to build a computer station that can be completely enclosed by
> finished cabinet doors hiding the whole system. The doors would also
> have integrated shelving on them with various computer peripherals.
>
> Naturally, the doors would be pretty heavy, so they'd necessarily need
> to roll on some type of wheels ~ maybe skateboard trucks.
>
> The main idea is open, it's a whole computer system. Closed, it would
> look completely unlike a computer system, maybe looking like an exotic
> array of cabinets and shelving, suitable for a high end living room.
>
> Anyway, that's my idea. Don't have the space to build it right not,
> but I guess there's nothing stopping me from designing it.
>
I tried that to some extent on my current desk in 1986. I found that
computers, printers, and monitors all change shape and size. My
original printer, 6 or so printers ago fit in my desk drawer, no longer.
On 1/14/2013 3:09 PM, chaniarts wrote:
> On 1/14/2013 2:02 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 1/14/2013 11:38 AM, RP wrote:
>>> That's gonna be real sweet! I love contrasting colors like that. I
>>> just did an Urn with a cherry box surrounmded with Maple columns and
>>> top and bottom. Came out pretty nice if I say so myself. Only charged
>>> them $100
>>>
>>> RP
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you! White Oak and cherry are not two woods that you would
>> normally think would go together well. Three years ago I built a
>> bedroom that used white and red oak and cherry. It did not turn your
>> stomach. ;~)
>>
>> I am looking more for the contrast and color differences. Cherry and
>> maple go together real well but I wanted something darker.
>
> try purpleheart. with shellac it turns pretty dark purple-brown-ish.
>
I have never ever had any luck with purple heart staying purple. For me
it always turns brown. It would look cool in purple heart and maybe,
zebra! ;~)
On 1/14/2013 2:40 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails
>> and center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they
>> work out that way. ;~)
>
> Have you always been a glutton for punishment? :)
>
Only in relatively recent years. I built a bedroom set and a pantry for
"us" starting about 3 years ago, between the paying jobs. I was
stretching what I consider my limits on both.
Then there was this about 10 years ago, The long quarter columns on the
front corners of the chest pictured below were completely cut on a TS
and a touch of sandpaper to ease the edges. The capitols top and bottom
were done on a lathe.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380785705/in/set-72157630857421932/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8381866850/in/set-72157630857421932/lightbox/
On 1/15/2013 1:18 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:53:19 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> Actually my wife will be there more than any one else but I can now have
>> a client sitting next to me when reviewing drawings.
>
> The client thing is a good idea. Build it right and you can also use
> it as an example of your craftsmanship to those clients.
>
Hence the difficulty factor in the rails on the doors and center arches
on the upper unit and the desk between the drawers.
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:00:40 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>The good old days, however It was 1969 for me. Use the jointer ONLY to
>straighten or flatten a board, NEVER to clean up a cut or make the board
>a specific thickness or width. Our shop teacher took base ball bats and
>cut them long ways a few times to product 3~4 paddles.
Been years since I've thought about those 'good old days'. For
throwing a snowball, I was hit three times on the palm of my hand with
a leather strap.
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:49:40 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>I tried that to some extent on my current desk in 1986. I found that
>computers, printers, and monitors all change shape and size. My
>original printer, 6 or so printers ago fit in my desk drawer, no longer.
Yes, you have a point there. Nevertheless, the size of computer
station that I had in mind would certainly allow for a changing
configuration in the years to come. You do have to admit, that except
for increasing monitor size, computers are generally getting smaller
as time goes on.
The current computer case that I have is only 2.5" less deep than the
case I've been eyeing. Both of them are pretty well future proofed.
Here's the one I've been thinking about. Temjin TJ11. One thing in
particular that I like about it is that the motherboard is rotated 90°
and heat can be exhausted out of the top of it.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=temjin+tj11&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-an1UOqWHoTW2gXl34CYBg&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=800&bih=441
On 1/14/13 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails and
> center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they work
> out that way. ;~)
I absolutely love the curves on that tall cabinet and can't wait to see
the finished results.
You should have pictures of the finished product in a couple weeks,
right? :-p
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Leon wrote:
> Yes the drawer tops, file cabinet cabinet door rails, door top rails
> and center eye brow are curved, not an optical illusion. I hope they
> work out that way. ;~)
Have you always been a glutton for punishment? :)
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On 1/14/2013 2:02 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 1/14/2013 11:38 AM, RP wrote:
>> That's gonna be real sweet! I love contrasting colors like that. I
>> just did an Urn with a cherry box surrounmded with Maple columns and
>> top and bottom. Came out pretty nice if I say so myself. Only charged
>> them $100
>>
>> RP
>>
>
>
> Thank you! White Oak and cherry are not two woods that you would
> normally think would go together well. Three years ago I built a
> bedroom that used white and red oak and cherry. It did not turn your
> stomach. ;~)
>
> I am looking more for the contrast and color differences. Cherry and
> maple go together real well but I wanted something darker.
try purpleheart. with shellac it turns pretty dark purple-brown-ish.
Leon wrote:
>
> Then there was this about 10 years ago, The long quarter columns on
> the front corners of the chest pictured below were completely cut on
> a TS and a touch of sandpaper to ease the edges. The capitols top
> and bottom were done on a lathe.
>
I saw those on your site a long time ago - I love those two pictures! That
is great work.
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:20:30 -0600, Leon wrote:
> I have never ever had any luck with purple heart staying purple. For me
> it always turns brown. It would look cool in purple heart and maybe,
> zebra! ;~)
Woodcraft sold (and may still) a dye called, IIRC, burgundy. A little of
that on purpleheart does not change the color, but it keeps the color a
lot longer. In fact I'm still waiting after several years to see the
brown.
--
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carrying a cross.
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:54:36 -0600, Swingman wrote:
> Do they have anything for keeping the sapwood in poplar from looking
> like a lime popsicle after a clear coat?
I built a magazine rack for a friend. Each of the partitions was poplar
with walnut trim. I picked the greenest poplar I could find. I liked
the look and my friend loved it. I warned him to keep it out of the sun.
In answer to your question, just put the poplar in the sun for a
while :-).
--
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carrying a cross.
Leon wrote:
> On 1/14/2013 11:07 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>
> Progress so far. The front and back face frames for the desk drawer
> units have been assembled and are receiving varnish for the hard to
> get to areas. Side panel assemblies to the drawer units will be
> assembled tomorrow after the 4th coat of varnish on the cherry panels.
>
> The stiles for the front and back face frames with Domino mortises
Sure beats cutting mortices for loose tenons with a router, doesn't it. I
don't have a domino cutter but if I did wood stuff for a living I sure
would.
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On 1/17/13 11:57 AM, Leon wrote:
> Well the glue is setting and all 8 sides of the ddesk drawer units are
> basically done. Next major task will be building drawers. The desk
> portion could be finished by the end of next week, probably not. LOL
>
> These BTY are clocked 90 degrees...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
That band saw...... I hate you.
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Leon wrote:
> On 1/18/2013 12:12 AM, Dave wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:34:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> But to answer your question, I do not miss cutting full sheets of
>>> plywood on my TS. I did that for about 25 years and wish I'd had
>>> this alternative 24 years ago. Keep in mind that the track saw
>>> could replace the TS if quality of cut was the only factor.
>>
>> I ask these questions in relation to my wheelchair. I can sit and
>> feed sheet plywood through the tablesaw, but I can't move and run a
>> track saw through plywood at the same time. I wish it was otherwise.
>>
>> Two years ago, I bought a TS55 to see if there was some way I could
>> use it, but ended up exchanging it for an hl850e planer.
>
> I never tried to use a planer to cut boards Dave.
Nor have I. But I did see someone try to do so with a joiner.
It was in a junior high shop class around 1946. When the teacher saw the
kid trying to cut through the board with the joiner he grabbed the kid, bent
him over a table and broke the board with the kid's butt. As I said, it was
1946 and things were different corporal punishment-wise then. And no, I
wasn't the kid.
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Dave wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:00:40 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> The good old days, however It was 1969 for me. Use the jointer ONLY
>> to straighten or flatten a board, NEVER to clean up a cut or make
>> the board a specific thickness or width. Our shop teacher took base
>> ball bats and cut them long ways a few times to product 3~4 paddles.
>
> Been years since I've thought about those 'good old days'. For
> throwing a snowball, I was hit three times on the palm of my hand with
> a leather strap.
Sure... next you're gonna tell us that's how those calluses got there...
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On 1/15/2013 11:27 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:20:30 -0600, Leon wrote:
>
>> I have never ever had any luck with purple heart staying purple. For me
>> it always turns brown. It would look cool in purple heart and maybe,
>> zebra! ;~)
>
> Woodcraft sold (and may still) a dye called, IIRC, burgundy. A little of
> that on purpleheart does not change the color, but it keeps the color a
> lot longer. In fact I'm still waiting after several years to see the
> brown.
Do they have anything for keeping the sapwood in poplar from looking
like a lime popsicle after a clear coat?
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On 1/15/2013 1:16 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:49:40 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> I tried that to some extent on my current desk in 1986. I found that
>> computers, printers, and monitors all change shape and size. My
>> original printer, 6 or so printers ago fit in my desk drawer, no longer.
>
> Yes, you have a point there. Nevertheless, the size of computer
> station that I had in mind would certainly allow for a changing
> configuration in the years to come. You do have to admit, that except
> for increasing monitor size, computers are generally getting smaller
> as time goes on.
>
> The current computer case that I have is only 2.5" less deep than the
> case I've been eyeing. Both of them are pretty well future proofed.
>
> Here's the one I've been thinking about. Temjin TJ11. One thing in
> particular that I like about it is that the motherboard is rotated 90°
> and heat can be exhausted out of the top of it.
>
> https://www.google.ca/search?q=temjin+tj11&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-an1UOqWHoTW2gXl34CYBg&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=800&bih=441
>
Yeah computers are getting smaller. But my current one, I had it built
20 months ago, is the biggest that I have had yet. In fact the one in
the model is an exact match. ;~)
My tower has exhaust on every side except the right hand side and has 5
fans.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=574&Itemid=61&limit=1&limitstart=3
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:34:41 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>But to answer your question, I do not miss cutting full sheets of
>plywood on my TS. I did that for about 25 years and wish I'd had this
>alternative 24 years ago. Keep in mind that the track saw could replace
>the TS if quality of cut was the only factor.
I ask these questions in relation to my wheelchair. I can sit and feed
sheet plywood through the tablesaw, but I can't move and run a track
saw through plywood at the same time. I wish it was otherwise.
Two years ago, I bought a TS55 to see if there was some way I could
use it, but ended up exchanging it for an hl850e planer.
The only tracksaw method I can think of using is one of the self
feeding types. The Mafell PSS 3100e is an example. And, despite the
horrific cost of approximately $3000, it's something I'd seriously
consider.
http://www.core77.com/blog/tools/from_the_holy_cow_department_a_self-propelled_track_saw_24165.asp
On 1/17/2013 9:45 PM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:57:02 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8389196187/
>
> Noticed the saw tracks on the sheet plywood to the right of that
> picture. I'm assuming they're from your track saw. You get quite a bit
> of use from that don't you? Makes me ask, do you ever miss cutting
> sheet goods on the table saw?
>
Actually the saw tracks are hanging vertically just to the left of the
Laguna band saw. Drive by.... ;~)
The kerf slots you see on the plywood table are from the track saw.
Most of those were made when cutting plastic laminate on my last job.
But to answer your question, I do not miss cutting full sheets of
plywood on my TS. I did that for about 25 years and wish I'd had this
alternative 24 years ago. Keep in mind that the track saw could replace
the TS if quality of cut was the only factor.
I do still cut plenty of plywood on my TS, hardly a piece does not get
cut on the TS, the track saw simply makes large pieces into smaller and
easier to manage pieces for the TS.
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:53:19 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>Actually my wife will be there more than any one else but I can now have
>a client sitting next to me when reviewing drawings.
The client thing is a good idea. Build it right and you can also use
it as an example of your craftsmanship to those clients.
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:07:31 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8380072459/in/photostream/lightbox/
That's similar to something I've always wanted to build ~ a completely
integrated computer station. Only one difference, my idea is a little
more grandiose.
I want to build a computer station that can be completely enclosed by
finished cabinet doors hiding the whole system. The doors would also
have integrated shelving on them with various computer peripherals.
Naturally, the doors would be pretty heavy, so they'd necessarily need
to roll on some type of wheels ~ maybe skateboard trucks.
The main idea is open, it's a whole computer system. Closed, it would
look completely unlike a computer system, maybe looking like an exotic
array of cabinets and shelving, suitable for a high end living room.
Anyway, that's my idea. Don't have the space to build it right not,
but I guess there's nothing stopping me from designing it.