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"Anthony Glass"

09/01/2004 12:48 AM

Stanley #12 Blade Subs

I've been eyeing some Stanley #12 veneer scrapers on ebay. A lot of them
don't come with blades, and original blades seem to be hard to come by. Does
anyone know whether a regular scraper can be made into an acceptable
substitute for these planes? I know these are collectors items, but I think
I'd actually use one of these if I could get my hands on one.

Thanks!


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DIYGUY

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

08/01/2004 9:15 PM

You can use the blade from an old handsaw to make a very nice scaper.
In fact you can make many from one saw. Flea markets have these fairly
cheap - usually you can pick one up for less than $5 or so. I use my
#12 on a fairly regular bases. There is much info to be had from
Patrick Leach's website at:
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm. Watch out! Using these
tools can be habit forming ...

Anthony Glass wrote:
> I've been eyeing some Stanley #12 veneer scrapers on ebay. A lot of them
> don't come with blades, and original blades seem to be hard to come by. Does
> anyone know whether a regular scraper can be made into an acceptable
> substitute for these planes? I know these are collectors items, but I think
> I'd actually use one of these if I could get my hands on one.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

RL

"Rob Lee"

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

10/01/2004 3:05 AM


"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message

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> enough finger clearance. Lee Valley are now doing a #112 repro (L-N
> have done one for a while) and the blades for these should be
> available separately.
<snip>

Andy, Andy, Andy....

Ours is definitely not a "repro".... ;)

Cheers -

Rob

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

09/01/2004 1:49 AM

"Anthony Glass" <[email protected]> writes:
>I've been eyeing some Stanley #12 veneer scrapers on ebay. A lot of them
>don't come with blades, and original blades seem to be hard to come by. Does
>anyone know whether a regular scraper can be made into an acceptable
>substitute for these planes? I know these are collectors items, but I think
>I'd actually use one of these if I could get my hands on one.
>
>Thanks!
>
>

Ron Hock sells blades for the #12 and #112.

www.hocktools.com You want the #SB112 blade.

Note his are quite a bit thicker than a regular
card hand scraper blade.

wb

"walt"

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

10/01/2004 8:05 PM


Andy, I have 2 #112's set up for different cuts..once you get the angle of
the burr set...bob's yer uncle. If you want to get rid of that ugly thing
though..let me know.
Rob, next purchase for me is your new improved scraper plane..I particularly
like the added feature that enables you to bow the blade. Like having the
best of the 112 and the #80 combined. great job

walt q in cold cold Connecticut

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

10/01/2004 1:45 AM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:48:15 GMT, "Anthony Glass"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Does
>anyone know whether a regular scraper can be made into an acceptable
>substitute for these planes?

No it can't - far too thin. One of the benefits to using a #12 is
this thick scraper, and the resultant avoidance of chatter (see
below). You really do need this thick blade, or you might as well use
a #80.

On the whole though, I never use my #12's. The "broomstick" handle
just doesn't work. To avoid the whole bed of the plane chattering, you
have to keep an appreciable pressure downwards on it. This is OK for a
short stroke, but a long stroke will amost inevitably start to chatter
at the ends of it. A #112 OTOH, is basically the same scraper setup,
but with fore-and-aft handles. For scraping a large surface, this is a
_much_ better plane.

If you need a brand new iron, Hock do them. I'm not a great fan, as
they're square-cornered rather than tombstone-shaped and you don;t get
enough finger clearance. Lee Valley are now doing a #112 repro (L-N
have done one for a while) and the blades for these should be
available separately.

I also find it useful to have a couple of #12 / #112 scraper blades to
hand, both crowned and uncrowned.

If you're looking to but a scraper plane like this, given the
extortionate cost of an old one, then I'd look very hard at the Lee
Valley #112.



--
Smert' spamionam

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

10/01/2004 4:13 AM

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:05:07 GMT, "Rob Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Ours is definitely not a "repro".... ;)

Thank goodness for that ! I've an _old_ #112 and it's a piece of
junk. The Lee-Valley version is (assumedly - I've not seen one) as
well made as the rest of your products, and I can see some design
changes to it that were obvious to me the moment I dismantled my own
original and tried to make the cursed thing work right.

But it's still more use than my #12

--
Smert' spamionam

wb

"walt"

in reply to "Anthony Glass" on 09/01/2004 12:48 AM

09/01/2004 5:21 PM


got an old saw laying around? you have 3 maybe 4 good scraper blades right
there. cut them square, file down the edge (90 or 45*), hone them and
burnish a burr. I have a scraper fetish and always keep 10 or 15 blades
around with different burr angles. These things can't be beat for taming
wild grain and most any kind of smoothing.

walt q in COLD Connecticut


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