unglue wood

On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 9:25:09 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> >> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> >> have one and want to replace it.
> >
> > Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
> >
> > Safety first.
> >
>
> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is illegal
> to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with new standard
> but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at your crib.

My sincerest apologies for using the word "legal" instead of "compliant". It's a good thing
we've got you to keep us on the straight and narrow.

>
> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.

Hey...look at that. I got my point across anyway.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

>
> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
> those that belong in a crib.

LOL. Yeah, or buy a tool.

Leon, you need a clamp? ;-)
https://houston.craigslist.org/tld/d/clamp/6335560831.html

I wonder if this is their actual asking price for the clamp!

Sonny

On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> have one and want to replace it.

Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?

Safety first.

On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>> those that belong in a crib.
>
> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
>
> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
>
> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
>

Looks plasticy. ;~)

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:56:28 AM UTC-5, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> > On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
> >>>>> and want to replace it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
> >>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
> >>>
> >>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.=C2=A0 It is
> >>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
> >>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
> >>> your crib.
> >>
> >> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
> >>>
> >>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
> >>
> >> To put it nicely.
> >=20
> > One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
> > spindles of my crib.=C2=A0 The fire department came and cut out a spind=
le to
> > set me free.
> > And set me free, they did.=C2=A0 After that, I would climb out of the c=
rib
> > when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
> > mom.=C2=A0 :-)
> >=20
> > This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
> > crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
> > the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
> > in there.=C2=A0 :-)
>=20
> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to=20
> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.

So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Real=
ly?

Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or compliant with =
today's=20
standard. Help can come in many forms.

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>
>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
>>
>> Safety first.
>>
>
>Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is illegal
>to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with new standard
>but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at your crib.

However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>
>It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.

To put it nicely.

On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>> your crib.
>>>>
>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>
>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>
>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>> set me free.
>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>> mom.  :-)
>>>
>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>> in there.  :-)
>>
>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>
> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?

Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe. You could just
as well point out the dangers of background trampolines and swimming
pools, but that's not the question.

> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
> compliant with today's standard.

But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.

> Help can come in many forms.
>
There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.

On 11/8/2017 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>> those that belong in a crib.
>
> LOL. Yeah, or buy a tool.
>
> Leon, you need a clamp? ;-)
> https://houston.craigslist.org/tld/d/clamp/6335560831.html
>
> I wonder if this is their actual asking price for the clamp!
>
> Sonny
>


W O W !!!! I'll pass!

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> > have one and want to replace it.
> >
>
>
> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
> those that belong in a crib.

Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.

In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)

https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg

On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>> have one and want to replace it.
>
> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
>
> Safety first.
>

Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is illegal
to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with new standard
but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at your crib.

It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 5:18:58 AM UTC-5, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/7/2017 4:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
> >> On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
> >>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, MIKE wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
> >>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
> >>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.=C2=A0 I=
t is
> >>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply wit=
h
> >>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
> >>>>>>> your crib.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To put it nicely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in =
the
> >>>>> spindles of my crib.=C2=A0 The fire department came and cut out a s=
pindle to
> >>>>> set me free.
> >>>>> And set me free, they did.=C2=A0 After that, I would climb out of t=
he crib
> >>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up=
my
> >>>>> mom.=C2=A0 :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was wit=
h
> >>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm =
sure
> >>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head s=
tuck
> >>>>> in there.=C2=A0 :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
> >>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
> >>>
> >>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"=
? Really?
> >>
> >> Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe.
> >=20
> > I don't recall seeing any indication that it was safe either. For all w=
e
> > know the OP is trying fix a crib that been in someone's attic for decad=
es
> > upon decades. "Your great-great-grandmother slept in this crib". No
> > indication of it's level of safety is enough for me to want to ask.
>=20
> So when someone has a question about a table saw, you ignore their=20
> question to ask if the safety guard is in place? The next time someone=
=20
> asks about wood finishing, you're going to ignore their question to talk=
=20
> about lead-based paint?
>=20
> >> You could just as well point out the dangers of background trampolines
> >> and swimming pools, but that's not the question.
> >=20
> > Had the OP asked about a trampoline or swimming pool, I might have. Sin=
ce
> > she didn't, I really don't think those would have been relevant questio=
ns.=20
> She also did not ask whether her crib slats were spaced too far apart,=20
> but that didn't stop you from jumping right in on safe crib design.
>=20
> >>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not
> >>> be safe or compliant with today's standard.
> >>
> >> But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
> >=20
> > Oh, so it *probably* won't cause the death of a child. That's fine, "pr=
obably"
> > is good enough, especially when it comes to the safety of children. She=
eesh.
>=20
> You have no reason to think helenmag's crib has any safety issues -=20
> except for a broken dowel that needs replacing, for which she asked=20
> advice that you declined to provide.
>=20
> >>
> >>> Help can come in many forms.
> >>>
> >> There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib desig=
n.
> >=20
> > And that somehow makes my question irrelevant?=20
>=20
> It makes your question off-topic, and totally useless for
> helping helenmag with replacing her broken dowel which IS
> a safety concern.
>=20
> > Don't forget, it's about the children.=20
>=20
> It this case, it's about how to remove a broken dowel so it can be=20
> replace with a good one - a fix for the children that you decided not to=
=20
> help with.
>=20
> >> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
> >> totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
> >=20
> > There was no reason for me to repeat the fine suggestions
> > that others had made.
>=20
> You were the VERY FIRST person to respond to her question.
> When you wrote "Is the crib still legal for use? ..." no one had
> yet made any suggestions about how to remove the broken dowel.

I'm done going back and forth with you, except on your last comment.=20
According to my timeline, my response number *seven*. I had already
read the responses about hide glue, drill out the old, sistering on a=20
new spindle, etc.

I don't know what reader you are using, but it sure doesn't look to me=20
like I was the even close to the first response.

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:22:47 PM UTC-5, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
> >> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> >>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
> >>>>>>> and want to replace it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
> >>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.=C2=A0 It =
is
> >>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
> >>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
> >>>>> your crib.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
> >>>>
> >>>> To put it nicely.
> >>>
> >>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in th=
e
> >>> spindles of my crib.=C2=A0 The fire department came and cut out a spi=
ndle to
> >>> set me free.
> >>> And set me free, they did.=C2=A0 After that, I would climb out of the=
crib
> >>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up m=
y
> >>> mom.=C2=A0 :-)
> >>>
> >>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
> >>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm su=
re
> >>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stu=
ck
> >>> in there.=C2=A0 :-)
> >>
> >> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
> >> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
> >=20
> > So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? =
Really?
>=20
> Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe. =20
>=20

I don't recall seeing any indication that it was safe either. For all we
know the OP is trying fix a crib that been in someone's attic for decades
upon decades. "Your great-great-grandmother slept in this crib". No=20
indication of it's level of safety is enough for me to want to ask.

> You could just as well point out the dangers of background trampolines
> and swimming pools, but that's not the question.

Had the OP asked about a trampoline or swimming pool, I might have. Since=
=20
she didn't, I really don't think those would have been relevant questions. =
If=20
you are curious about her other possessions, I can ask for you. Just let me
know.

> > Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
> > compliant with today's standard.
>=20
> But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.

Oh, so it *probably* won't cause the death of a child. That's fine, "probab=
ly"
is good enough, especially when it comes to the safety of children. Sheeesh=
.

>=20
> > Help can come in many forms.
> >=20
> There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.=
=20

And that somehow makes my question irrelevant? Don't forget, it's about=20
the children. (I'm assuming it's about the children. For all we know, there=
's
some role playing going on. There may be no kids involved at all. Now *that=
*
would make my question irrelevant.)

> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you=20
> totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.

There was no reason for me to repeat the fine suggestions that others had
made. Instead I chose to care about the children. I'm sorry if that bothers
you, but it won't stop me from doing it again if I feel that it's important
enough.

J. Clarke <[email protected]> writes:
>On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:31:04 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>>I don't even know who heads the CPSC. Do you?
>
>I know who heads the government.

Yeah, Steve Bannon.

On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:42:24 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:27:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
> >On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> >>>> have one and want to replace it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
> >>> those that belong in a crib.
> >>
> >> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
> >>
> >> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
> >>
> >> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
> >>
> >
> >Looks plasticy. ;~)
> Also looks rather unstable - unless the base is filled with some
> kind of high-tech gravity booster - - -

Sand. It works OK on flat ground, a little wobbly at that height on
uneven ground, fine just about anywhere with one less 2' section.

The advantage of the PVC base is that it's flat, so it can be weighted
down with just about anything you might have a job site, from a tool
box to a cooler to a bucket of dirt.

I actually have a metal stand made from the original tripod base to which
I added an adjustable metal pole. (It's actually a tent pole from when I
was in the Boy Scouts about 5 decades ago.) With the tripod base, I can
raise the light to well over 10' on flat ground. Unfortunately, you can't
weight down the base because of the slanted legs.

It was just a fun little project.

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 3:37:16 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 03:15:18 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:03:53 AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> >> On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:12:35 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:42:24 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:27:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> >> >>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> >> >>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> >> >> >>>> have one and want to replace it.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
> >> >> >>> those that belong in a crib.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Looks plasticy. ;~)
> >> >> Also looks rather unstable - unless the base is filled with some
> >> >> kind of high-tech gravity booster - - -
> >> >
> >> >Sand. It works OK on flat ground, a little wobbly at that height on
> >> >uneven ground, fine just about anywhere with one less 2' section.
> >> >
> >> >The advantage of the PVC base is that it's flat, so it can be weighted
> >> >down with just about anything you might have a job site, from a tool
> >> >box to a cooler to a bucket of dirt.
> >> >
> >> >I actually have a metal stand made from the original tripod base to which
> >> >I added an adjustable metal pole. (It's actually a tent pole from when I
> >> >was in the Boy Scouts about 5 decades ago.) With the tripod base, I can
> >> >raise the light to well over 10' on flat ground. Unfortunately, you can't
> >> >weight down the base because of the slanted legs.
> >> >
> >> >It was just a fun little project.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I like an old tire/wheel assembly with a post welded into an old hub -
> >> about 30 lbs of balllast
> >
> >Not quite as portable as either of mine.
>
> They roll around a lot easier than yours - they just take more storage
> space - - - -

Yours only roll easily when disabled. Mine carry, assembled, from place to
place, whether it's 1 foot or 20.

(This could gone for days, but I'll nip it in the bud. Your method is
*fantastic*. You should be proud.)

On 11/8/2017 2:15 PM, Larry Kraus wrote:
> On 11/8/2017 12:51 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/8/2017 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>>>> those that belong in a crib.
>>>
>>> LOL.  Yeah, or buy a tool.
>>>
>>> Leon, you need a clamp?  ;-)
>>> https://houston.craigslist.org/tld/d/clamp/6335560831.html
>>>
>>> I wonder if this is their actual asking price for the clamp!
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>>
>>
>>
>> W O W !!!!  I'll pass!
>
> I think that's a Wilton 14298. Internet prices seem to range from $93 to
> $153, so $120 isn't all that ridiculous.  Not that I'll be buying one.

On second look, that particular one is not only used, but looks like it
has been overtightened and no would no longer clamp square.

-MIKE- <[email protected]> writes:
>On 11/6/17 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>> have one and want to replace it.
>>
>
>If it's really old it might be hide glue which can loosened with heat/steam.
>However, it's probably easier to simply drill out the old dowel and
>insert a new one.
>You can drill it out oversized to make sure you remove all the glue.
>And/or use epoxy on the new one to make sure.

Of course, it is likely that there are other non-broken dowels
which hold the top and bottom rails together, so inserting the
new dowel (if the broken one can even be removed without disassembling
the entire side of the crib) will be nigh-on impossible.

I'd just sister the new dowel to the old dowel with some packing
or duct tape. Not pretty, but functional.

On 11/7/2017 2:22 PM, Just Wondering wrote:

>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017  [email protected] wrote:
>>>   >>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?  Safety first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>

>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>
>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag.  She is asking for advice on how to
>>> remove a  glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>
>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"?
>> Really?
>
> Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe.  You could just
> as well point out the dangers of background trampolines and swimming
> pools, but that's not the question.
>
>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
>> compliant with today's standard.
>
> But it probably is.  Most cribs even older ones are safe.

No, they may not be. New regulations took effect in 2011. Infants are
still killed every year from defective cribs, many that ar hand-me-downs.

The fact that the crib needed repair tips you off that it may be an
older crib so DD3 was right in giving a warning. Not everyone is aware
of how the injuries occur and how they can be prevented.


https://www.cpsc.gov/content/cpsc-issues-warning-on-drop-side-cribs-32-fatalities-in-drop-side-cribs-in-last-9-years


The crib was manufactured AFTER June 28th, 2011, when new federal safety
standards were put into place
A soda can cannot pass between any of the slats of the crib
There are no corner post extensions or decorative cut-outs on the crib
Hardware (screws and bolts) which secure crib components are not loose
or missing
Crib is free of protruding rivets, metal nuts or bolts, knobs, and wing nuts
Mattress is tight-fitting; 2 fingers cannot fit between the mattress and
crib’s side
Joints and parts fit tightly, and wood is smooth and free of splinters
There is no cracked or peeling paint, and all painted surfaces are lead-free
Lowered crib sides are at least 9 inches above the mattress support
Raised crib sides are at least 26 inches above the mattress support in
the lowest position
To avoid drop-side cribs – they do not meet mandatory standards
>
>> Help can come in many forms.
>>
> There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
>  She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
> totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.

If you are ignorant of the shortcomings you'd not know to ask about them.

Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Everybody is assuming the OP was planing on using the crib for a new
> baby. There was nothing in the original post to indicate what they
> planned to do with the crib. It could be for their dog, or some other
> creative decoration in their home.

+1
http://awesomediys.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Crib-Planter.jpg
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/old-crib-planter-rosalie-scanlon.jpg
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/030/013/scaled.php

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 03:15:18 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:03:53 AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:12:35 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:42:24 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:27:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> >> >> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >> >>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>> >> >>>> have one and want to replace it.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>> >> >>> those that belong in a crib.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Looks plasticy. ;~)
>> >> Also looks rather unstable - unless the base is filled with some
>> >> kind of high-tech gravity booster - - -
>> >
>> >Sand. It works OK on flat ground, a little wobbly at that height on
>> >uneven ground, fine just about anywhere with one less 2' section.
>> >
>> >The advantage of the PVC base is that it's flat, so it can be weighted
>> >down with just about anything you might have a job site, from a tool
>> >box to a cooler to a bucket of dirt.
>> >
>> >I actually have a metal stand made from the original tripod base to which
>> >I added an adjustable metal pole. (It's actually a tent pole from when I
>> >was in the Boy Scouts about 5 decades ago.) With the tripod base, I can
>> >raise the light to well over 10' on flat ground. Unfortunately, you can't
>> >weight down the base because of the slanted legs.
>> >
>> >It was just a fun little project.
>>
>>
>>
>> I like an old tire/wheel assembly with a post welded into an old hub -
>> about 30 lbs of balllast
>
>Not quite as portable as either of mine.

They roll around a lot easier than yours - they just take more storage
space - - - -

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 11/8/2017 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>>> those that belong in a crib.
>>
>> LOL. Yeah, or buy a tool.
>>
>> Leon, you need a clamp? ;-)
>> https://houston.craigslist.org/tld/d/clamp/6335560831.html
>>
>> I wonder if this is their actual asking price for the clamp!
>>
>> Sonny
>>
>
>
>W O W !!!! I'll pass!

ironically, the pawn shop selling it is in Humble.

On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>
>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>
>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>> your crib.
>>
>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>
>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>
>> To put it nicely.
>
> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
> set me free.
> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
> mom.  :-)
>
> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
> in there.  :-)

Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
If the dowel isn't too badly broken you may be able to glue it back
together and avoid having to remove and replace it. If the damage is
too extensive, cut the dowel completely in two and try wiggling the
parts back and forth. The dowel may not be glued very well and the
wiggling could loosen the glue joint. If the ends are really glued in
solid, you might have to cut the dowel flush against the frame and then
drill it out.

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:40:52 PM UTC-5, [email protected] w=
rote:
> On 11/7/2017 6:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:22:47 PM UTC-5, Just Wondering wrote:
> >> On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
> >>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
> >>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
> >>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.=C2=A0 I=
t is
> >>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply wit=
h
> >>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
> >>>>>>> your crib.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To put it nicely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in =
the
> >>>>> spindles of my crib.=C2=A0 The fire department came and cut out a s=
pindle to
> >>>>> set me free.
> >>>>> And set me free, they did.=C2=A0 After that, I would climb out of t=
he crib
> >>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up=
my
> >>>>> mom.=C2=A0 :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was wit=
h
> >>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm =
sure
> >>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head s=
tuck
> >>>>> in there.=C2=A0 :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
> >>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
> >>>
> >>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"=
? Really?
> >>
> >> Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe.
> >>
> >=20
> > I don't recall seeing any indication that it was safe either. For all w=
e
> > know the OP is trying fix a crib that been in someone's attic for decad=
es
> > upon decades. "Your great-great-grandmother slept in this crib". No
> > indication of it's level of safety is enough for me to want to ask.
> >=20
> >> You could just as well point out the dangers of background trampolines
> >> and swimming pools, but that's not the question.
> >=20
> > Had the OP asked about a trampoline or swimming pool, I might have. Sin=
ce
> > she didn't, I really don't think those would have been relevant questio=
ns. If
> > you are curious about her other possessions, I can ask for you. Just le=
t me
> > know.
> >=20
> >>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
> >>> compliant with today's standard.
> >>
> >> But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
> >=20
> > Oh, so it *probably* won't cause the death of a child. That's fine, "pr=
obably"
> > is good enough, especially when it comes to the safety of children. She=
eesh.
> >=20
> >>
> >>> Help can come in many forms.
> >>>
> >> There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib desig=
n.
> >=20
> > And that somehow makes my question irrelevant? Don't forget, it's about
> > the children. (I'm assuming it's about the children. For all we know, t=
here's
> > some role playing going on. There may be no kids involved at all. Now *=
that*
> > would make my question irrelevant.)
> >=20
> >> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
> >> totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
> >=20
> > There was no reason for me to repeat the fine suggestions that others h=
ad
> > made. Instead I chose to care about the children. I'm sorry if that bot=
hers
> > you, but it won't stop me from doing it again if I feel that it's impor=
tant
> > enough.
> >=20
> Everybody is assuming the OP was planing on using the crib for a new=20
> baby. There was nothing in the original post to indicate what they=20
> planned to do with the crib. It could be for their dog, or some other=20
> creative decoration in their home.
>=20

Please re-read the post you responded to. I addressed that very point.
Here, I'll bring it down to the bottom for you:

(I'm assuming it's about the children. For all we know, there's
some role playing going on. There may be no kids involved at all. )

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 6:58:14 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/8/2017 5:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> >>> have one and want to replace it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
> >> those that belong in a crib.
> >
> > Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
> >
> > In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
> >
> > https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
> >
>
> I read where some light stands were being recalled. They could fall
> over into a crib, injuring the baby. Has this been inspected?

I filled the base with broken spindles to weight it down.

On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 21:46:05 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:22:40 -0700, Just Wondering <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>>>> set me free.
>>>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>>>> mom.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>>
>>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?
>>
>>Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe. You could just
>>as well point out the dangers of background trampolines and swimming
>>pools, but that's not the question.
>>
>>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
>>> compliant with today's standard.
>>
>>But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
>
>Not true. There have been *MANY* crib recalls since the CSPC started
>regulating them.
>
>>> Help can come in many forms.
>>>
>>There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
>> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
>>totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
>
>Said shortcomings might not be known. It's a good thing to check. It
>might save a lifetime of grief, somewhere down the road.

Read the recalls--mostly they are in the "something might happen"
category and most seem to be "drop side" cribs where the side can drop
unexpectedly. Few are "design feature that violates regulations"
recalls.

And of course this all assumes that the gummint, currently headed by a
buffoon, knows what it is doing..

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 14:21:25 -0500, Larry Kraus <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/8/2017 2:15 PM, Larry Kraus wrote:
>> On 11/8/2017 12:51 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 11/8/2017 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>>>>> those that belong in a crib.
>>>>
>>>> LOL.  Yeah, or buy a tool.
>>>>
>>>> Leon, you need a clamp?  ;-)
>>>> https://houston.craigslist.org/tld/d/clamp/6335560831.html
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if this is their actual asking price for the clamp!
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> W O W !!!!  I'll pass!
>>
>> I think that's a Wilton 14298. Internet prices seem to range from $93 to
>> $153, so $120 isn't all that ridiculous.  Not that I'll be buying one.
>
>On second look, that particular one is not only used, but looks like it
>has been overtightened and no would no longer clamp square.
looks square to me - the screw is hitting the anvill about where it
should -

On 11/8/2017 12:51 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/8/2017 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:12 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>>> those that belong in a crib.
>>
>> LOL.  Yeah, or buy a tool.
>>
>> Leon, you need a clamp?  ;-)
>> https://houston.craigslist.org/tld/d/clamp/6335560831.html
>>
>> I wonder if this is their actual asking price for the clamp!
>>
>> Sonny
>>
>
>
> W O W !!!!  I'll pass!

I think that's a Wilton 14298. Internet prices seem to range from $93 to
$153, so $120 isn't all that ridiculous. Not that I'll be buying one.

On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 06:25:32 -0500, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 21:46:05 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:22:40 -0700, Just Wondering <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>>>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>>>>> set me free.
>>>>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>>>>> mom.  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>>>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>>>
>>>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?
>>>
>>>Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe. You could just
>>>as well point out the dangers of background trampolines and swimming
>>>pools, but that's not the question.
>>>
>>>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
>>>> compliant with today's standard.
>>>
>>>But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
>>
>>Not true. There have been *MANY* crib recalls since the CSPC started
>>regulating them.
>>
>>>> Help can come in many forms.
>>>>
>>>There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
>>> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
>>>totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
>>
>>Said shortcomings might not be known. It's a good thing to check. It
>>might save a lifetime of grief, somewhere down the road.
>
>Read the recalls--mostly they are in the "something might happen"
>category and most seem to be "drop side" cribs where the side can drop
>unexpectedly. Few are "design feature that violates regulations"
>recalls.

Or you could read the newspaper. I know I've read of more than one
kit's death caused by a non-conforming crib.
>
>And of course this all assumes that the gummint, currently headed by a
>buffoon, knows what it is doing..

I don't even know who heads the CPSC. Do you?

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 12:03:53 AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:12:35 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:42:24 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:27:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >> >>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> >>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> >> >>>> have one and want to replace it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
> >> >>> those that belong in a crib.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
> >> >>
> >> >> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Looks plasticy. ;~)
> >> Also looks rather unstable - unless the base is filled with some
> >> kind of high-tech gravity booster - - -
> >
> >Sand. It works OK on flat ground, a little wobbly at that height on
> >uneven ground, fine just about anywhere with one less 2' section.
> >
> >The advantage of the PVC base is that it's flat, so it can be weighted
> >down with just about anything you might have a job site, from a tool
> >box to a cooler to a bucket of dirt.
> >
> >I actually have a metal stand made from the original tripod base to which
> >I added an adjustable metal pole. (It's actually a tent pole from when I
> >was in the Boy Scouts about 5 decades ago.) With the tripod base, I can
> >raise the light to well over 10' on flat ground. Unfortunately, you can't
> >weight down the base because of the slanted legs.
> >
> >It was just a fun little project.
>
>
>
> I like an old tire/wheel assembly with a post welded into an old hub -
> about 30 lbs of balllast

Not quite as portable as either of mine.

On 11/7/2017 4:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, MIKE wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>>>> set me free.
>>>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>>>> mom.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>>
>>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?
>>
>> Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe.
>
> I don't recall seeing any indication that it was safe either. For all we
> know the OP is trying fix a crib that been in someone's attic for decades
> upon decades. "Your great-great-grandmother slept in this crib". No
> indication of it's level of safety is enough for me to want to ask.

So when someone has a question about a table saw, you ignore their
question to ask if the safety guard is in place? The next time someone
asks about wood finishing, you're going to ignore their question to talk
about lead-based paint?

>> You could just as well point out the dangers of background trampolines
>> and swimming pools, but that's not the question.
>
> Had the OP asked about a trampoline or swimming pool, I might have. Since
> she didn't, I really don't think those would have been relevant questions.
She also did not ask whether her crib slats were spaced too far apart,
but that didn't stop you from jumping right in on safe crib design.

>>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not
>>> be safe or compliant with today's standard.
>>
>> But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
>
> Oh, so it *probably* won't cause the death of a child. That's fine, "probably"
> is good enough, especially when it comes to the safety of children. Sheeesh.

You have no reason to think helenmag's crib has any safety issues -
except for a broken dowel that needs replacing, for which she asked
advice that you declined to provide.

>>
>>> Help can come in many forms.
>>>
>> There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
>
> And that somehow makes my question irrelevant?

It makes your question off-topic, and totally useless for
helping helenmag with replacing her broken dowel which IS
a safety concern.

> Don't forget, it's about the children.

It this case, it's about how to remove a broken dowel so it can be
replace with a good one - a fix for the children that you decided not to
help with.

>> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
>> totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
>
> There was no reason for me to repeat the fine suggestions
> that others had made.

You were the VERY FIRST person to respond to her question.
When you wrote "Is the crib still legal for use? ..." no one had
yet made any suggestions about how to remove the broken dowel.

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 22:04:16 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5,
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>
>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
>>>>
>>>> Safety first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is
>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>> your crib.
>>
>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>
>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>
>> To put it nicely.
>>
>
>One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>spindles of my crib. The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>set me free.
>And set me free, they did. After that, I would climb out of the crib
>when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>mom. :-)
>
>This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>in there. :-)

You're just a kid. ;-)

CSPC crib safety standards started in 1973.

On 11/7/2017 6:43 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 9:25:09 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>>
>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
>>>
>>> Safety first.
>>>
>>
>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is illegal
>> to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with new standard
>> but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at your crib.
>
> My sincerest apologies for using the word "legal" instead of "compliant". It's a good thing
> we've got you to keep us on the straight and narrow.

I do my best. Glad I could help.

>
>>
>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>
> Hey...look at that. I got my point across anyway.
>

And that's a good thing. Many old cribs still around from what I saw on
the news.

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 05:30:42 -0800 (PST), [email protected]
wrote:

>I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>have one and want to replace it.
Carefully drill out the broken one.

On 11/8/2017 5:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>> those that belong in a crib.
>
> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
>
> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
>
> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
>

I read where some light stands were being recalled. They could fall
over into a crib, injuring the baby. Has this been inspected?

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:22:40 -0700, Just Wondering <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>
>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>>> set me free.
>>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>>> mom.  :-)
>>>>
>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>
>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>
>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?
>
>Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe. You could just
>as well point out the dangers of background trampolines and swimming
>pools, but that's not the question.
>
>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
>> compliant with today's standard.
>
>But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.

Not true. There have been *MANY* crib recalls since the CSPC started
regulating them.

>> Help can come in many forms.
>>
>There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
>totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.

Said shortcomings might not be known. It's a good thing to check. It
might save a lifetime of grief, somewhere down the road.

On 11/6/17 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> have one and want to replace it.
>

If it's really old it might be hide glue which can loosened with heat/steam.
However, it's probably easier to simply drill out the old dowel and
insert a new one.
You can drill it out oversized to make sure you remove all the glue.
And/or use epoxy on the new one to make sure.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 11/6/2017 11:34 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 05:30:42 -0800 (PST), [email protected]
> wrote:
>
>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>> have one and want to replace it.
> Carefully drill out the broken one.
>
Another way to fix it is to remove the broken dowel, and clean out the
holes in the rail. Drill the holes deeper into one rail, and make th
new dowel such that it goes completely in to one rail, when it is able
to pass the other rail. Lower the dowel into the hole in the bottom
rail until it is in the holes in the top and bottom rails. When you have
dry fit everything, add glue and again position the dowel so it is in
both holes.

--
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On 11/6/17 10:48 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> -MIKE- <[email protected]> writes:
>> On 11/6/17 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>>
>>
>> If it's really old it might be hide glue which can loosened with heat/steam.
>> However, it's probably easier to simply drill out the old dowel and
>> insert a new one.
>> You can drill it out oversized to make sure you remove all the glue.
>> And/or use epoxy on the new one to make sure.
>
> Of course, it is likely that there are other non-broken dowels
> which hold the top and bottom rails together, so inserting the
> new dowel (if the broken one can even be removed without disassembling
> the entire side of the crib) will be nigh-on impossible.
>
> I'd just sister the new dowel to the old dowel with some packing
> or duct tape. Not pretty, but functional.
>

Hmmm... are we talking dowel or spindle?
I assumed it was a fastening dowel in the joint.
A spindle can bet cut and removed, like we do on staircases.
Then you drill the top rail hole about 1/2" deeper than the spindle and
a bit tapered (wiggle the bit to one side when drilling).
Push the spindle up into the top rail until you can drop it in the
bottom hole, drop down, glue/pin, whatever.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5,
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>
>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
>>>
>>> Safety first.
>>>
>>
>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is
>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>> your crib.
>
> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>
>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>
> To put it nicely.
>

One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
spindles of my crib. The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
set me free.
And set me free, they did. After that, I would climb out of the crib
when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
mom. :-)

This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
in there. :-)



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 11/7/17 3:56 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017  [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>
>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?  Safety first.
>>>>
>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>> your crib.
>>>
>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>
>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>
>>> To put it nicely.
>>
>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>> set me free.
>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>> mom.  :-)
>>
>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>> in there.  :-)
>
> Y'all are not helping helenmag.  She is asking for advice on how to
> remove a  glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
> If the dowel isn't too badly broken you may be able to glue it back
> together and avoid having to remove and replace it.  If the damage is
> too extensive, cut the dowel completely in two and try wiggling the
> parts back and forth.  The dowel may not be glued very well and the
> wiggling could loosen the glue joint.  If the ends are really glued in
> solid, you might have to cut the dowel flush against the frame and then
> drill it out.

Read the entire thread and you'll see that we already gave advice on how
to fix the problem.
Then, as always happens in here, we went off on tangents.

Are you new, here?


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 11/7/2017 6:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:22:47 PM UTC-5, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>>>> set me free.
>>>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>>>> mom.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>>
>>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?
>>
>> Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe.
>>
>
> I don't recall seeing any indication that it was safe either. For all we
> know the OP is trying fix a crib that been in someone's attic for decades
> upon decades. "Your great-great-grandmother slept in this crib". No
> indication of it's level of safety is enough for me to want to ask.
>
>> You could just as well point out the dangers of background trampolines
>> and swimming pools, but that's not the question.
>
> Had the OP asked about a trampoline or swimming pool, I might have. Since
> she didn't, I really don't think those would have been relevant questions. If
> you are curious about her other possessions, I can ask for you. Just let me
> know.
>
>>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
>>> compliant with today's standard.
>>
>> But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
>
> Oh, so it *probably* won't cause the death of a child. That's fine, "probably"
> is good enough, especially when it comes to the safety of children. Sheeesh.
>
>>
>>> Help can come in many forms.
>>>
>> There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
>
> And that somehow makes my question irrelevant? Don't forget, it's about
> the children. (I'm assuming it's about the children. For all we know, there's
> some role playing going on. There may be no kids involved at all. Now *that*
> would make my question irrelevant.)
>
>> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
>> totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
>
> There was no reason for me to repeat the fine suggestions that others had
> made. Instead I chose to care about the children. I'm sorry if that bothers
> you, but it won't stop me from doing it again if I feel that it's important
> enough.
>
Everybody is assuming the OP was planing on using the crib for a new
baby. There was nothing in the original post to indicate what they
planned to do with the crib. It could be for their dog, or some other
creative decoration in their home.



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On 11/7/17 8:43 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 22:04:16 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:30:45 AM UTC-5,
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends?
>>>>>
>>>>> Safety first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards. It is
>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>> your crib.
>>>
>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>
>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>
>>> To put it nicely.
>>>
>>
>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>> spindles of my crib. The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>> set me free.
>> And set me free, they did. After that, I would climb out of the crib
>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>> mom. :-)
>>
>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>> in there. :-)
>
> You're just a kid. ;-)
>
> CSPC crib safety standards started in 1973.
>

That explains a lot. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 05:30:42 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:

> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> have one and want to replace it.


not enough info
make an ascii diagram or point to the crib online


or just go on craigslist and find a replacement crib

On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:12:35 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:42:24 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:27:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>> >On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> >>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>> >>>> have one and want to replace it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>> >>> those that belong in a crib.
>> >>
>> >> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
>> >>
>> >> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
>> >>
>> >
>> >Looks plasticy. ;~)
>> Also looks rather unstable - unless the base is filled with some
>> kind of high-tech gravity booster - - -
>
>Sand. It works OK on flat ground, a little wobbly at that height on
>uneven ground, fine just about anywhere with one less 2' section.
>
>The advantage of the PVC base is that it's flat, so it can be weighted
>down with just about anything you might have a job site, from a tool
>box to a cooler to a bucket of dirt.
>
>I actually have a metal stand made from the original tripod base to which
>I added an adjustable metal pole. (It's actually a tent pole from when I
>was in the Boy Scouts about 5 decades ago.) With the tripod base, I can
>raise the light to well over 10' on flat ground. Unfortunately, you can't
>weight down the base because of the slanted legs.
>
>It was just a fun little project.



I like an old tire/wheel assembly with a post welded into an old hub -
about 30 lbs of balllast

On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 16:48:49 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>-MIKE- <[email protected]> writes:
>>On 11/6/17 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>>
>>
>>If it's really old it might be hide glue which can loosened with heat/steam.
>>However, it's probably easier to simply drill out the old dowel and
>>insert a new one.
>>You can drill it out oversized to make sure you remove all the glue.
>>And/or use epoxy on the new one to make sure.
>
>Of course, it is likely that there are other non-broken dowels
>which hold the top and bottom rails together, so inserting the
>new dowel (if the broken one can even be removed without disassembling
>the entire side of the crib) will be nigh-on impossible.
>
>I'd just sister the new dowel to the old dowel with some packing
>or duct tape. Not pretty, but functional.
"scarf" the new dowel (assuming she means the "rungs" in the
drop-gate) and glue it back together after inserting both ends - - -

More than one way to skin that kitty.

On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:31:04 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 06:25:32 -0500, J. Clarke
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 21:46:05 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:22:40 -0700, Just Wondering <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 11/7/2017 4:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 9:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/6/17 8:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 21:25:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2017 6:05 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I have one
>>>>>>>>>>> and want to replace it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is the crib still legal for use? How far apart are the
>>>>>>>>>> spindles/dowels on the sides and ends? Safety first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Legality to use has nothing to do with present standards.  It is
>>>>>>>>> illegal to manufacture, sell, donate cribs that do not comply with
>>>>>>>>> new standard but the gestapo will not raid your house looking at
>>>>>>>>> your crib.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, if a kid dies, there will be some 'splainin' to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is not smart to use a non compliant crib, of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To put it nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of my earliest childhood memories was getting my head stuck in the
>>>>>>> spindles of my crib.  The fire department came and cut out a spindle to
>>>>>>> set me free.
>>>>>>> And set me free, they did.  After that, I would climb out of the crib
>>>>>>> when I woke up in the morning and cause shenanigans until I woke up my
>>>>>>> mom.  :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was probably around 1970 and I don't know what the law was with
>>>>>>> crib spindle spacing or if it was a homemade crib or what, but I'm sure
>>>>>>> the spacing is closer than what it would take to get a kid's head stuck
>>>>>>> in there.  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Y'all are not helping helenmag. She is asking for advice on how to
>>>>>> remove a glued-in broken part on the crib so it can be replaced.
>>>>>
>>>>> So pointing out an issue that might save a kid's life isn't "helping"? Really?
>>>>
>>>>Not when there's no indication that the crib is unsafe. You could just
>>>>as well point out the dangers of background trampolines and swimming
>>>>pools, but that's not the question.
>>>>
>>>>> Not everyone realizes that an old crib might not be safe or
>>>>> compliant with today's standard.
>>>>
>>>>But it probably is. Most cribs even older ones are safe.
>>>
>>>Not true. There have been *MANY* crib recalls since the CSPC started
>>>regulating them.
>>>
>>>>> Help can come in many forms.
>>>>>
>>>>There's not the least suggestion of any shortcomings in the crib design.
>>>> She was asking for advice on a woodworking-type repair, and you
>>>>totally ignored her request while going off on a tangent.
>>>
>>>Said shortcomings might not be known. It's a good thing to check. It
>>>might save a lifetime of grief, somewhere down the road.
>>
>>Read the recalls--mostly they are in the "something might happen"
>>category and most seem to be "drop side" cribs where the side can drop
>>unexpectedly. Few are "design feature that violates regulations"
>>recalls.
>
>Or you could read the newspaper. I know I've read of more than one
>kit's death caused by a non-conforming crib.

Are you sure it was by a "non-conforming" crib?

>>And of course this all assumes that the gummint, currently headed by a
>>buffoon, knows what it is doing..
>
>I don't even know who heads the CPSC. Do you?

I know who heads the government.

On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
> have one and want to replace it.
>


Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
those that belong in a crib.

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:27:22 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:

>On 11/8/2017 4:34 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:33:12 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>> On 11/6/2017 7:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> I have a crib with a broken dowel on the side and I
>>>> have one and want to replace it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why don't you guys go out and build something rather than argue like
>>> those that belong in a crib.
>>
>> Hey! Easy there big fella. I, for one, have been multi-tasking.
>>
>> In between posts I built a $6 height-adjustable work light stand. ;-)
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/xm4Ho1g.jpg
>>
>
>Looks plasticy. ;~)
Also looks rather unstable - unless the base is filled with some
kind of high-tech gravity booster - - -