Enjoy
Lew
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ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
indication of how much trouble our country is in.
God Bless America!
A DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of 'why'
our country is in trouble:
1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter)
ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up
by being near the window. (On an airplane!)
2. I got a call from a Kansas Congressman's (Moore) staffer
(Howard Bauleke), who wanted to go to Capetown.
I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport
information, and then he interrupted me with, ''I'm not trying to
make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts ....''
Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained,
''Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Capetown is in Africa''
his response -- click.
3. A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called,
furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was
wrong with the vacation in Orlando .
He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain
that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.
He replied, 'don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is
a very thin state!'' (OMG)
4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife (Landra Reid) who asked,
''Is it possible to see England from Canada ?'' I said, ''No.''
She said, ''But they look so close on the map.'' (OMG, again!)
5. An aide for a cabinet member(Janet Napolitano) once called
and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. I pulled up the
reservation and noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas.
When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, ''I heard
Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between
gates to save time.'' (Aghhhh)
6. An Illinois Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) called last week.
She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from
Detroit left at 8:30 a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.
I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois, but she
couldn't understand the concept of time zones.
Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.
7. A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked,
''Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they
know whose luggage belongs to whom?
I said, 'No, why do you ask?'
He replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a
tag on my luggage that said (FAT) and I'm overweight.
I happen to think that is very rude!''
After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it.
(I was dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code
for Fresno, Ca. is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline
was just putting a destination tag on his luggage.
8. A Senator John Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire
about a trip package to Hawaii.
After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would it be
cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?''
9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman,
Bobby Bright from Ala., who asked, ''How do I know which
plane to get on?''
I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied,
''I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes
have that number on them.''
10. Senator Dianne Feinstein called and said, ''I need to fly to
Pepsi-Cola, Florida. Do I have to get on one of those little
computer planes?''
I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola, FL on a commuter plane.
She said, ''Yeah, whatever, smarty!''
11. Mary Landrieu, La. Senator called and had a question about
the documents she needed in order to fly to China. After a lengthy
discussion about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa.
'Oh, no I don't. I've been to China many times and never had to
have one of those.''
I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa.
When I told her this she said, ''Look, I've been to China four times
and every time they have accepted my American Express card!''
12. A New Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make
reservations, ''I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York.''
'Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the man.
After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, sir, I've
looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a
rhino anywhere."
''The man retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where
it is.
Check your map!''
So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered,
''You don't mean Buffalo, do you?'' The reply?
''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''
Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in!
Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
I don't write it, I just offer it for your consideration.
Like manure, you just gotta spread it around.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home
>> or land owner.
> ----------------------------------------
> Ownership of a share of corporate America doesn't count?
>
> Lew
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
Ownership of stock is way too easy to get out of. Stock prices are
obviously not dictated by the condition our society is on. I would prefer
that the Mexican and Chinese citizens not be involved in our elections..
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home
>> or land owner.
> ----------------------------------------
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>>> Ownership of a share of corporate America doesn't count?
> -------------------------------------------
> "Just Wondering" wrote:
>
>> What in the world is that? "Corporate America?" You can buy shares
>> of stock in a corporation called America?
> ---------------------------------------
> Nice try but no cigar.
>
> Lew
We'll try this. The Chinese own an obscene amount of shares of Corporate
America. Do you really think that they should have a right to vote in our
elections? If so, you are part of the problem.
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 00:14:31 -0500, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I mentioned that one should be a land/property owner. Total assets have
>nothing to do with anything. If you own land/property you might vote
>differently if you have more at risk risk because of the out come of the
>election.
Home ownerships is about 65% and declining. I don't know about other
property though.
Doubt we will go back to 1790 again
http://www.infoplease.com/timelines/voting.html
or keep the Irish Catholics from voting as was also done.
http://www.ourwhitehouse.org/whogetsvote.html
In 1776 all white men who own property have the right to vote,
except for Catholics, Jews, and Quakers.
In 1856 North Carolina becomes the last state to remove the
restriction that prevents citizens who do not own property from
voting, so now all white men who are not convicted criminals can vote.
In 1870 Congress ratifies the Fifteenth Amendment, which guarantees
all non-white men the right to vote. However, this right was often
denied through intimidation and the imposition of poll taxes, which
many could not pay.
Women are granted the right to vote in 1920 via the Nineteenth
Amendment.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Enjoy
>
> Lew
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>
> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
> This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>
> God Bless America!
>
> A DC airport ticket agent offers some examples of 'why'
> our country is in trouble:
>
> 1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter)
> ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up
> by being near the window. (On an airplane!)
>
> 2. I got a call from a Kansas Congressman's (Moore) staffer
> (Howard Bauleke), who wanted to go to Capetown.
>
> I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport
> information, and then he interrupted me with, ''I'm not trying to
> make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts ....''
>
> Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained,
> ''Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Capetown is in Africa''
> his response -- click.
>
> 3. A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called,
> furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was
> wrong with the vacation in Orlando .
>
> He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain
> that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.
>
> He replied, 'don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is
> a very thin state!'' (OMG)
>
> 4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife (Landra Reid) who asked,
> ''Is it possible to see England from Canada ?'' I said, ''No.''
>
> She said, ''But they look so close on the map.'' (OMG, again!)
>
> 5. An aide for a cabinet member(Janet Napolitano) once called
> and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. I pulled up the
> reservation and noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas.
>
> When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, ''I heard
> Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between
> gates to save time.'' (Aghhhh)
>
> 6. An Illinois Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) called last week.
> She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from
> Detroit left at 8:30 a.m., and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.
>
> I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois, but she
> couldn't understand the concept of time zones.
>
> Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that.
>
> 7. A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked,
> ''Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they
> know whose luggage belongs to whom?
>
> I said, 'No, why do you ask?'
>
> He replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a
> tag on my luggage that said (FAT) and I'm overweight.
>
> I happen to think that is very rude!''
>
> After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it.
> (I was dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code
> for Fresno, Ca. is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline
> was just putting a destination tag on his luggage.
>
> 8. A Senator John Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire
> about a trip package to Hawaii.
>
> After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would it be
> cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?''
>
> 9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman,
> Bobby Bright from Ala., who asked, ''How do I know which
> plane to get on?''
>
> I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied,
> ''I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes
> have that number on them.''
> 10. Senator Dianne Feinstein called and said, ''I need to fly to
> Pepsi-Cola, Florida. Do I have to get on one of those little
> computer planes?''
>
> I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola, FL on a commuter plane.
> She said, ''Yeah, whatever, smarty!''
>
> 11. Mary Landrieu, La. Senator called and had a question about
> the documents she needed in order to fly to China. After a lengthy
> discussion about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa.
>
> 'Oh, no I don't. I've been to China many times and never had to
> have one of those.''
>
> I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa.
> When I told her this she said, ''Look, I've been to China four times
> and every time they have accepted my American Express card!''
>
> 12. A New Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make
> reservations, ''I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York.''
>
> 'Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the man.
>
> After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, sir, I've
> looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a
> rhino anywhere."
>
> ''The man retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where
> it is.
>
> Check your map!''
>
> So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered,
> ''You don't mean Buffalo, do you?'' The reply?
>
> ''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''
>
> Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in!
>
> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>
> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
>
> I don't write it, I just offer it for your consideration.
>
> Like manure, you just gotta spread it around.
And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
convinced dumber people to vote for them.
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:55:42 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Leon" wrote:
>
>> We'll try this. The Chinese own an obscene amount of shares of
>> Corporate
>> America. Do you really think that they should have a right to vote
>> in our
>> elections? If so, you are part of the problem.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Since when to the contents of the wallet determine proof of
>citizenship?
I believe that was Leon's argument, back at you.
On 9/24/2013 12:30 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Sorry, can't at all subscribe to your opinion that property owners are
> the only ones that should be able to vote.
The fact remains that the founding fathers who set up a unique form of
self government, democratic republic that unarguably vested more rights
to more people than ever experienced before in human history, did indeed
subscribe to that "opinion".
I don't like it anymore than you do, but history will prove that the
right of "everyman" to vote without qualification was the first nail in
the coffin of that unique democratic republic.
Pretty hard to argue, in the light of Detroit and Chicago, that we
wouldn't all be better off if there was some responsibility attached to
voting other than collecting a welfare check.
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:48:16 -0500, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>Perhaps if voters had more skin in the game they would be more demanding.
Sorry, can't at all subscribe to your opinion that property owners are
the only ones that should be able to vote. Do you have any idea what
would happen to your county if you enacted that type of legislation?
You'd be in the middle of a full fledged civil war within a month.
It's absolutely ludicrous to even think about it.
Neil Ward <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 5:38 PM, Leon wrote:
>> Neil Ward <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2013 1:10 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 9/20/2013 12:58 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
>>>>>> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>>>>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And 50% of them are even dumber than that ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> U.S. Congress 47% of its' Members are Millionaires: a Status Shared by
>>> Only 1% of Americans...
>>
>> And only millionaires because they are in politics.
>>
> The 113th Congress has 94 new members, the average net worth of the
> incoming lawmakers $1,066,515.
Exactly! Once they have been there a few years they will will have even
more.
>
> The wealthiest member of congress is Representative Michael McCaul,
> Texas's 10th district, estimated net worth $500.1 mil.
Neil Ward <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 1:10 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 9/20/2013 12:58 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>>> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>>>>
>>>> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
>>>> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
>>
>>
>>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>>
>>
>> And 50% of them are even dumber than that ...
>>
>>
> U.S. Congress 47% of its' Members are Millionaires: a Status Shared by
> Only 1% of Americans...
And only millionaires because they are in politics.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:55:42 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>>> We'll try this. The Chinese own an obscene amount of shares of
>>> Corporate
>>> America. Do you really think that they should have a right to vote
>>> in our
>>> elections? If so, you are part of the problem.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Since when to the contents of the wallet determine proof of
>> citizenship?
>
> I believe that was Leon's argument, back at you.
You are correct.
Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:48:16 -0500, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Perhaps if voters had more skin in the game they would be more demanding.
>>
>> Sorry, can't at all subscribe to your opinion that property owners are
>> the only ones that should be able to vote. Do you have any idea what
>> would happen to your county if you enacted that type of legislation?
>> You'd be in the middle of a full fledged civil war within a month.
>> It's absolutely ludicrous to even think about it.
>
> Obviously, those that have nothing to loose would stir the pot it this was
> reinstated. Yes, it was this way at one time.
>
> The whole idea is not to prevent people from voting so much as prevent
> those with no assets/permanent ties to loose from making decisions about
> those that do have investments/commitments that cannot be taken with them
> should they decide to leave the country.
Perhaps better yet, set up the voting so that you only vote on issues that
affect the population segment you fall into and how you would be willing to
pay for those changes. Obviously issues that affect every one would be
open for vote by every one. Sorta of like city and state elections, you
can't vote in cities and states that you have no affiliation with.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:14:57 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Pretty hard to argue, in the light of Detroit and Chicago, that we
>> wouldn't all be better off if there was some responsibility attached to
>> voting other than collecting a welfare check.
>
> Can't argue with that at all. Only problem would be the inevitable
> uprising if anyone tried to retract any rights already given. Guess
> it's comparable to your gun lobby screaming every time someone tries
> to curtail their rights.
>
> That's some big mess you have down there. Guess Canada's not too far
> removed from something similar, just not near as bad ~ yet.
Actually with ever single new law, regardless of the country, some one or
large group of people loose a right that they previously had. The problem
with letting those with no skin in the game vote is that they most often
have every thing to gain if the government increases taxes on the property
owners and those involved in building the country. These voters typically
do not pay as big of a price for government benefits as do the property
owners.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:01:46 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Edward A.
Falk) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Well, as much as it sounds about right (they are Democrats) and
>
>They're only democrats because someone changed the names when they
>redistributed this hoax. Read the Snopes article you yourself
>linked to.
What's that got to do with the corruption of the Democratic party?
>
>>http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/congress.asp
Do you have a point?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>
>> Nice try but again no cigar.
>>
>> Let's re-phrase the question.
>
>> How do a person's total assets determine proof of
>> citizenship?
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> "Doug Winterburn" wrote:
>
>> It's like the prez said: "You have to have some skin in the game".
>> Only problem is he wants it to be someone else's skin.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> What part of, " How do a person's total assets determine proof of
> citizenship?", do you fail to comprehend?
>
> Lew
It's is difficult to explain when you are asking about something that no
one has mentioned.
I mentioned that one should be a land/property owner. Total assets have
nothing to do with anything. If you own land/property you might vote
differently if you have more at risk risk because of the out come of the
election.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Leon" wrote:
> It's is difficult to explain when you are asking about something
> that no
> one has mentioned.
-----------------------------------------------
Sounds like a lack of comprehension.
-----------------------------------------------
"Leon" wrote:
> I mentioned that one should be a land/property owner. Total assets
> have
> nothing to do with anything.
---------------------------------------------------
Definitely a failure to comprehend.
---------------------------------------------------
"Leon" wrote:
> If you own land/property you might
> vote
> differently if you have more at risk because of the out come of
> the
> election.
--------------------------------------------------
What about the kid who enlists in the military as a means of escaping
life
in the projects (Insert city of choice) only to end up on the front
lines of a
conflict as a target of an enemy?
Think having one's life in jeopardy qualifies as being at enough risk
to
vote?
What about the parent who works 2 and 3 jobs to help earn the tuition
for a child to earn an education that allows them to lead a better
life?
Think maybe they have earned the right to have a voice in matters
affecting
education?
What about the CEO of a steel company who is fighting to keep the
doors
open while off shore competitors are dumping steel into the US market
at
prices below his cost to manufacture?
Think maybe that CEO has earned the right to have a vested interest in
foreign trade issues by voting for representatives who represent the
CEO's views?
The point is that in our democratic form of government, EVERYBODY
has a vested interest.
Sometimes, in fact most times, these vested interests do not agree,
but
vary widely requiring much comprise.
That's why Congress exists.
Now if we could just get them to do their jobs rather than play the
racist
politics presently being displayed.
Lew
On 9/20/2013 6:39 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>>
>>> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
>> >This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
>>> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>>
>
>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>
> A friend of mine has argued for decades that there should pass a test
> before someone is allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe
> he is right....
>
>
Before my time, but I've read that some states used to require literacy
tests to vote. Because so many blacks were illiterate, those laws were
stricken down as racist.
On 9/20/2013 8:04 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home
>> or land owner.
> ----------------------------------------
> Ownership of a share of corporate America doesn't count?
>
What in the world is that? "Corporate America?" You can buy shares of
stock in a corporation called America?
"Leon" wrote:
> I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home
> or land owner.
----------------------------------------
Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Ownership of a share of corporate America doesn't count?
-------------------------------------------
"Just Wondering" wrote:
> What in the world is that? "Corporate America?" You can buy shares
> of stock in a corporation called America?
---------------------------------------
Nice try but no cigar.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> It's is difficult to explain when you are asking about something
>> that no
>> one has mentioned.
> -----------------------------------------------
> Sounds like a lack of comprehension.
> -----------------------------------------------
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I mentioned that one should be a land/property owner. Total assets
>> have
>> nothing to do with anything.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Definitely a failure to comprehend.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> If you own land/property you might
>> vote
>> differently if you have more at risk because of the out come of
>> the
>> election.
> --------------------------------------------------
> What about the kid who enlists in the military as a means of escaping
> life
> in the projects (Insert city of choice) only to end up on the front
> lines of a
> conflict as a target of an enemy?
>
> Think having one's life in jeopardy qualifies as being at enough risk
> to
> vote?
Absolutely, that is why there is the GI bill. An aid to become a home
owner.
>
> What about the parent who works 2 and 3 jobs to help earn the tuition
> for a child to earn an education that allows them to lead a better
> life?
>
What about that parent?
> Think maybe they have earned the right to have a voice in matters
> affecting
> education?
Absolutely and if having to work 2 or 3 jobs they perhaps already have a
mortgage.
>
> What about the CEO of a steel company who is fighting to keep the
> doors
> open while off shore competitors are dumping steel into the US market
> at
> prices below his cost to manufacture?
What about him?
>
> Think maybe that CEO has earned the right to have a vested interest in
> foreign trade issues by voting for representatives who represent the
> CEO's views?
Only if he is a property owner.
>
> The point is that in our democratic form of government, EVERYBODY
> has a vested interest.
Any why idiots are electing idiots.
>
> Sometimes, in fact most times, these vested interests do not agree,
> but
> vary widely requiring much comprise.
>
> That's why Congress exists.
>
> Now if we could just get them to do their jobs rather than play the
> racist
> politics presently being displayed.
>
> Lew
Perhaps if voters had more skin in the game they would be more demanding.
"Leon" wrote:
> We'll try this. The Chinese own an obscene amount of shares of
> Corporate
> America. Do you really think that they should have a right to vote
> in our
> elections? If so, you are part of the problem.
--------------------------------------------------------
Since when to the contents of the wallet determine proof of
citizenship?
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:48:16 -0500, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Perhaps if voters had more skin in the game they would be more demanding.
>
> Sorry, can't at all subscribe to your opinion that property owners are
> the only ones that should be able to vote. Do you have any idea what
> would happen to your county if you enacted that type of legislation?
> You'd be in the middle of a full fledged civil war within a month.
> It's absolutely ludicrous to even think about it.
Obviously, those that have nothing to loose would stir the pot it this was
reinstated. Yes, it was this way at one time.
The whole idea is not to prevent people from voting so much as prevent
those with no assets/permanent ties to loose from making decisions about
those that do have investments/commitments that cannot be taken with them
should they decide to leave the country.
"Leon" wrote:
>
> We'll try this. The Chinese own an obscene amount of shares of
> Corporate
> America. Do you really think that they should have a right to
> vote
> in our
> elections? If so, you are part of the problem.
--------------------------------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> Since when to the contents of the wallet determine proof of
> citizenship?
----------------------------------------------------
> I believe that was Leon's argument, back at you.
"Leon" wrote:
>
> You are correct.
------------------------------------------------------------
Nice try but again no cigar.
Let's re-phrase the question.
How do a person's total assets determine proof of
citizenship?
Lew
On 9/24/2013 8:21 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:14:57 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Pretty hard to argue, in the light of Detroit and Chicago, that we
>> wouldn't all be better off if there was some responsibility attached to
>> voting other than collecting a welfare check.
>
> Can't argue with that at all. Only problem would be the inevitable
> uprising if anyone tried to retract any rights already given. Guess
> it's comparable to your gun lobby screaming every time someone tries
> to curtail their rights.
Yep, that would be me ... ;)
Ostensibly I fought for those rights, but regardless, I indeed plan on
fighting to keep them if necessary.
> That's some big mess you have down there. Guess Canada's not too far
> removed from something similar, just not near as bad ~ yet.
Arguably it is such a "big mess" for the very reason I was expounding
upon. :(
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On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:14:57 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Pretty hard to argue, in the light of Detroit and Chicago, that we
>wouldn't all be better off if there was some responsibility attached to
>voting other than collecting a welfare check.
Can't argue with that at all. Only problem would be the inevitable
uprising if anyone tried to retract any rights already given. Guess
it's comparable to your gun lobby screaming every time someone tries
to curtail their rights.
That's some big mess you have down there. Guess Canada's not too far
removed from something similar, just not near as bad ~ yet.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> Nice try but again no cigar.
>
> Let's re-phrase the question.
> How do a person's total assets determine proof of
> citizenship?
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"Doug Winterburn" wrote:
> It's like the prez said: "You have to have some skin in the game".
> Only problem is he wants it to be someone else's skin.
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What part of, " How do a person's total assets determine proof of
citizenship?", do you fail to comprehend?
Lew
On 9/20/2013 1:04 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home
>> or land owner.
> ----------------------------------------
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>>> Ownership of a share of corporate America doesn't count?
> -------------------------------------------
> "Just Wondering" wrote:
>
>> What in the world is that? "Corporate America?" You can buy shares
>> of stock in a corporation called America?
> ---------------------------------------
> Nice try but no cigar.
>
Please explain what "corporate America" and "ownership of a share of
corporate America" means.
"Just Wondering" wrote:
> Please explain what "corporate America" and "ownership of a share of
> corporate America" means.
---------------------------------------------------------
Ownership of shares of a publically held US corporation would seem to
qualify as having ownership of a share of corporate America.
Lew
On 9/20/2013 9:04 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home
>> or land owner.
> ----------------------------------------
> Ownership of a share of corporate America doesn't count?
If your only skin in the game is the vote, you can be divided and
pandered to, as we can clearly see.
One of the reasons the vote was originally setup as property owners only.
As they say, a democracy (which we're not) is two wolves and a lamb
voting over what's for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting
the vote.
"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see...."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and
coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down
him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On
its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people
hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why
don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the
vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted
in more or less approximates to the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard
might get in."
Douglas Adams, in So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish (1984) Ch. 36.
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:46:17 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Enjoy
>
>Lew
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
Well, as much as it sounds about right (they are Democrats) and
certainly Bernie Sanders does usually that stupid (he was my
representative for fifteen years);
http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/congress.asp
On 9/20/2013 5:38 PM, Leon wrote:
> Neil Ward <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9/20/2013 1:10 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2013 12:58 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>>>>>
>>>>> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
>>>>> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
>>>
>>>
>>>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>>>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>>>
>>>
>>> And 50% of them are even dumber than that ...
>>>
>>>
>> U.S. Congress 47% of its' Members are Millionaires: a Status Shared by
>> Only 1% of Americans...
>
> And only millionaires because they are in politics.
>
The 113th Congress has 94 new members, the average net worth of the
incoming lawmakers $1,066,515.
The wealthiest member of congress is Representative Michael McCaul,
Texas's 10th district, estimated net worth $500.1 mil.
On 9/20/2013 1:10 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/20/2013 12:58 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>>> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>>>
>>> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
>>> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
>
>
>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>
>
> And 50% of them are even dumber than that ...
>
>
U.S. Congress 47% of its' Members are Millionaires: a Status Shared by
Only 1% of Americans...
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>
>> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
> >This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
>> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>
>And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>convinced dumber people to vote for them.
A friend of mine has argued for decades that there should pass a test before
someone is allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe he is
right....
"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>"Leon" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>
>>> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
>> >This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
>>> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>
>>And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>>convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>A friend of mine has argued for decades that there should pass a test
>before someone is allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe he
>is right....
I should not type prior to having a cup of coffee.... Let me restate that!
A friend of mine has argued for decades that people should pass a test
before
they are allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe he is
right....
Maybe I should take a test each morning! LOL
John
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:523bb6f9$0$17081$c3e8da3
[email protected]:
> Enjoy
>
> Lew
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
What about the guy who falls for something this hokey?
http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/congress.asp
[email protected] (Edward A. Falk) wrote in news:[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:523bb6f9$0$17081$c3e8da3
>>[email protected]:
>>
>>> Enjoy
>>>
>>> Lew
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>>
>>What about the guy who falls for something this hokey?
>>
>>http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/congress.asp
>
> Yeah, I thought it smelled like an urban legend to me.
>
And an old one at that. I think the first time I saw it was in the late 1990s.
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:27:17 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
> >
> > We'll try this. The Chinese own an obscene amount of shares of
> > Corporate
> > America. Do you really think that they should have a right to
> > vote
> > in our
> > elections? If so, you are part of the problem.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> > Since when to the contents of the wallet determine proof of
> > citizenship?
> ----------------------------------------------------
> > I believe that was Leon's argument, back at you.
> "Leon" wrote:
> >
> > You are correct.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Nice try but again no cigar.
> Let's re-phrase the question.
> How do a person's total assets determine proof of
> citizenship?
> Lew
It's like the prez said: "You have to have some skin in the game".
Only problem is he wants it to be someone else's skin.
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:10:56 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/20/2013 12:58 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>>> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>>>
>>> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
>>> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
>
>
>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>
>
>And 50% of them are even dumber than that ...
Here's one (and this one isn't a gag - Hank Johnson really is this
dumb);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg
On 9/20/2013 7:39 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>>
>>> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
>> >This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
>>> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>>
>
>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>
> A friend of mine has argued for decades that there should pass a test
> before someone is allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe
> he is right....
>
>
>
I think a vested interest/investment in the country, like be a home or
land owner.
On 9/20/2013 7:49 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
> "John Grossbohlin" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> "Leon" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>>
>>>> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
>>> >This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
>>>> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>>
>
>>> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>>> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>
>> A friend of mine has argued for decades that there should pass a test
>> before someone is allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to
>> believe he is right....
>
>
> I should not type prior to having a cup of coffee.... Let me restate that!
>
> A friend of mine has argued for decades that people should pass a test
> before
> they are allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe he is
> right....
>
> Maybe I should take a test each morning! LOL
>
> John
LOL.. Screw that test!
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:10:45 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
> Before my time, but I've read that some states used to require literacy
> tests to vote. Because so many blacks were illiterate, those laws were
> stricken down as racist.
At the time, I pointed out that that was equivalent to throwing out the
baby with the dishwater. What we needed was a fair test, not no test.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:523bb6f9$0$17081$c3e8da3
>[email protected]:
>
>> Enjoy
>>
>> Lew
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>
>What about the guy who falls for something this hokey?
>
>http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/congress.asp
Yeah, I thought it smelled like an urban legend to me.
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In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Well, as much as it sounds about right (they are Democrats) and
They're only democrats because someone changed the names when they
redistributed this hoax. Read the Snopes article you yourself
linked to.
>http://www.snopes.com/travel/trap/congress.asp
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In article <[email protected]>,
Just Wondering <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>Before my time, but I've read that some states used to require literacy
>tests to vote. Because so many blacks were illiterate, those laws were
>stricken down as racist.
The irony, it burns.
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 00:53:51 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Just Wondering" wrote:
>
>> Please explain what "corporate America" and "ownership of a share of
>> corporate America" means.
>---------------------------------------------------------
>Ownership of shares of a publically held US corporation would seem to
>qualify as having ownership of a share of corporate America.
What do you have against private corporations? ...or any other
financial organization?
On 9/20/2013 12:58 AM, Leon wrote:
>> Can anyone actually be this DUMB?
>>
>> YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS,
>> AND SADLY, THEY CONTINUE TO BREED..
> And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
> convinced dumber people to vote for them.
And 50% of them are even dumber than that ...
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 08:39:33 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Leon" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ARE THEY ACTUALLY THIS DUMB OR WHAT???
>>
>>> A DC airport ticket agent-must read!
>> >This is priceless funny stuff; but alas, is only a small
>>> indication of how much trouble our country is in.
>>
>
>>And if you think these government officials are dumb, consider that they
>>convinced dumber people to vote for them.
>
>A friend of mine has argued for decades that there should pass a test before
>someone is allowed to vote... Over the years I've come to believe he is
>right....
But then who would be blame for our stupidity?