Hiya All,
I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
(Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if anyone
has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or shorter
fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure there's
really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word here) to
move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try the
longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw later.
Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
Cheers,
cc
Thanks Bob! Would you say it's worth the extra $60 for the 6" given you've
now put it on a cabinet saw (Jaysus, starting to sound like a porn add!)
Cheers,
cc
"Bob Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Vega has two "versions" of their fence, the Utility, and the Pro. The
> Utility has the 36" long fence with 1½" dia. rail, while the Pro has the
42"
> fence and 2" dia. rail.. I have the Utility model with the 36" fence, and
> have cut many a full size 4x8 sheet. In my personal opinion, 6 more
inches
> wouldn't make a meaningful difference in supporting large stock like this.
> (Keep in mind that I'm damn good though. OK, that was just a joke.)
> Seriously, it does take care and effort on the operators part when cutting
> something cumbersome like this. The homemade outfeed table did provide
much
> needed support, and I consider it an absolute necessity. I had my Vega
> installed on a real cheapo contractor style saw before purchasing my
Grizzly
> 1023 cabinet type, onto which I transferred the Vega. The Bies "clone"
that
> came with the 1023 was given away along with the old cheapo contractor
saw.
> The Griz. and the Vega are among my favorite tools in my shop. Hope this
> helps.
>
> "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hiya All,
> > I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
> > (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
> > or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
> anyone
> > has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
> shorter
> > fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
> > workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
> there's
> > really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word
here)
> to
> > move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try the
> > longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw
later.
> > Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> > Cheers,
> > cc
> >
> >
>
>
I take it you wouldn't be willing to ship then? To ABQ. New Mexico?
Thanks.
"Ace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JAY3d.342881$8_6.305685@attbi_s04...
> I would go with the 42" version. I have one and I like it very much. It
has
> always been "dead-on" and never have I had a problem with it. I just
bought
> a new Grizzly G0444Z which has a Bies clone and am going to sell my Vega
> and Vega accessories with the finger saver and the hold down device for
big
> sheets in a couple of weeks or so. I'm not going to put it on EBay.
Ithink
> I'll use the local shopper flyer. I live in Springfield Illinois.
>
> "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Thanks Leon!
> >
> > "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Hiya All,
> > > > I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet
JWTS-10
> > > > (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of
fence)
> > > > or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
> > > > anyone
> > > > has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
> > > > shorter
> > > > fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of
the
> > > > workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
> > > > there's
> > > > really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word
> > here)
> > > > to
> > > > move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try
> the
> > > > longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw
> > later.
> > > > Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> > > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > When cutting longer stock, 8', you want a longer guide. The longer
> fence
> > > will be of more benefit than that of a shorter fence in this instance.
> If
> > > you cut most shorter stock, the shorter fence should be just fine.
The
> > > difference between a contractors saw and a cabinet saw is not enough
to
> > > demand using one fence or another. Typically the table tops are about
> the
> > > same length front to back. I have used the Home Version of a Jet
Exacta
> > > fence and the longer Commercial version of the Exacta fence that is on
> my
> > > cabinet saw. I much prefer the longer fence and at times wish it were
> > > longer.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
I would go with the 42" version. I have one and I like it very much. It has
always been "dead-on" and never have I had a problem with it. I just bought
a new Grizzly G0444Z which has a Bies clone and am going to sell my Vega
and Vega accessories with the finger saver and the hold down device for big
sheets in a couple of weeks or so. I'm not going to put it on EBay. Ithink
I'll use the local shopper flyer. I live in Springfield Illinois.
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Leon!
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hiya All,
> > > I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
> > > (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
> > > or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
> > > anyone
> > > has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
> > > shorter
> > > fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
> > > workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
> > > there's
> > > really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word
> here)
> > > to
> > > move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try
the
> > > longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw
> later.
> > > Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > When cutting longer stock, 8', you want a longer guide. The longer
fence
> > will be of more benefit than that of a shorter fence in this instance.
If
> > you cut most shorter stock, the shorter fence should be just fine. The
> > difference between a contractors saw and a cabinet saw is not enough to
> > demand using one fence or another. Typically the table tops are about
the
> > same length front to back. I have used the Home Version of a Jet Exacta
> > fence and the longer Commercial version of the Exacta fence that is on
my
> > cabinet saw. I much prefer the longer fence and at times wish it were
> > longer.
> >
> >
>
>
Vega has two "versions" of their fence, the Utility, and the Pro. The
Utility has the 36" long fence with 1½" dia. rail, while the Pro has the 42"
fence and 2" dia. rail.. I have the Utility model with the 36" fence, and
have cut many a full size 4x8 sheet. In my personal opinion, 6 more inches
wouldn't make a meaningful difference in supporting large stock like this.
(Keep in mind that I'm damn good though. OK, that was just a joke.)
Seriously, it does take care and effort on the operators part when cutting
something cumbersome like this. The homemade outfeed table did provide much
needed support, and I consider it an absolute necessity. I had my Vega
installed on a real cheapo contractor style saw before purchasing my Grizzly
1023 cabinet type, onto which I transferred the Vega. The Bies "clone" that
came with the 1023 was given away along with the old cheapo contractor saw.
The Griz. and the Vega are among my favorite tools in my shop. Hope this
helps.
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya All,
> I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
> (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
> or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
anyone
> has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
shorter
> fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
> workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
there's
> really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word here)
to
> move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try the
> longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw later.
> Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>
Thanks Leon!
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hiya All,
> > I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
> > (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
> > or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
> > anyone
> > has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
> > shorter
> > fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
> > workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
> > there's
> > really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word
here)
> > to
> > move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try the
> > longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw
later.
> > Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> > Cheers,
>
> When cutting longer stock, 8', you want a longer guide. The longer fence
> will be of more benefit than that of a shorter fence in this instance. If
> you cut most shorter stock, the shorter fence should be just fine. The
> difference between a contractors saw and a cabinet saw is not enough to
> demand using one fence or another. Typically the table tops are about the
> same length front to back. I have used the Home Version of a Jet Exacta
> fence and the longer Commercial version of the Exacta fence that is on my
> cabinet saw. I much prefer the longer fence and at times wish it were
> longer.
>
>
Did you have any trouble with the allen head bolts always wanting to
return to their prior holes after moving the fence between saws?
I'm resorted to "shimming" my head on the blade side to get the proper
alignment with the miter slot front to back of the blade. A little
blue painters tape two layers thick moves the fence a few thousands at
the end.
The finger saver accesory is a wonderful addition, but I don't tend to
use my board buddies anymore, they make it too hard to push stock
through the cut.
Alan
"Bob Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Finding someone with experience in both versions of the fence is going to
> be
> nigh on to impossible, in my measly opinion. As I stated earlier, I've
> not
> found myself longing for that extra length of the fence itself.
I did not either until I got a longer fence and realized what an advantage
it offered, and again I wish my long one was longer at times. Have you
actually used with any regularity a longer fence? If spending the money for
a new fence, why not pay a few bucks more and eliminate the doubt.
I would go with the 42" version. I have one and I like it very much. It has
always been "dead-on" and never have I had a problem with it. I just bought
a new Grizzly G0444Z which has a Bies clone and am going to sell my Vega
and Vega accessories with the finger saver and the hold down device for big
sheets in a couple of weeks or so. I'm not going to put it on EBay. I think
I'll use the local shopper flyer. I live in Springfield Illinois.
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Leon!
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hiya All,
> > > I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
> > > (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
> > > or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
> > > anyone
> > > has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
> > > shorter
> > > fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
> > > workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
> > > there's
> > > really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word
> here)
> > > to
> > > move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try
the
> > > longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw
> later.
> > > Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > When cutting longer stock, 8', you want a longer guide. The longer
fence
> > will be of more benefit than that of a shorter fence in this instance.
If
> > you cut most shorter stock, the shorter fence should be just fine. The
> > difference between a contractors saw and a cabinet saw is not enough to
> > demand using one fence or another. Typically the table tops are about
the
> > same length front to back. I have used the Home Version of a Jet Exacta
> > fence and the longer Commercial version of the Exacta fence that is on
my
> > cabinet saw. I much prefer the longer fence and at times wish it were
> > longer.
> >
> >
>
>
"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya All,
> I've decided I'm going to try the Vega Fence system for my Jet JWTS-10
> (Contractor's Saw). They have either a 42" option (length of fence)
> or 36". The current fence (Jet's) is about 34". I'm wondering if
> anyone
> has any recommendations as to whether I should install the longer or
> shorter
> fence. On one hand, a longer fence would provide more support of the
> workpiece, but on the other, this is a contractor's saw so not sure
> there's
> really enough support for the extra length. I am hoping (key word here)
> to
> move to a cabinet saw in a few years so it might be worth it to try the
> longer fence on the contractor's saw and move it to the cabinet saw later.
> Anyway, thanks for any inputs.
> Cheers,
When cutting longer stock, 8', you want a longer guide. The longer fence
will be of more benefit than that of a shorter fence in this instance. If
you cut most shorter stock, the shorter fence should be just fine. The
difference between a contractors saw and a cabinet saw is not enough to
demand using one fence or another. Typically the table tops are about the
same length front to back. I have used the Home Version of a Jet Exacta
fence and the longer Commercial version of the Exacta fence that is on my
cabinet saw. I much prefer the longer fence and at times wish it were
longer.
Finding someone with experience in both versions of the fence is going to be
nigh on to impossible, in my measly opinion. As I stated earlier, I've not
found myself longing for that extra length of the fence itself. I don't
know if the mechanism, on the pro model, at the front rail is any sturdier.
My fence has little if any deflection when locked down. I'm not quite anal
enough to measure the deflection in thousandths of an inch as some have done
on this discussion group. Remember that any sideway force at that extra
length would contribute to any deflection by a factor of that increased
length. For sixty bucks difference though, you might want to go ahead with
the pro model. Your personal choice.
Another poster asked about the fact that the allen bolts which hold the
fence in position when the adjustment for miter slot parallel is made, find
their way back to the original position they had when first adjusted. What
is happening is this, the screws "dig in" to the aluminum extrusion that the
fence is made of. No problem until a readjust is necessary, like when
transferring the fence to a different saw. Since the difference in position
is small, the screws seek the position made at the prior adjustment
position. Here's what you do. Simply insert one small steel flat washer
beneath the head of each allen bolt. Voila! No more memory caused by dug
into aluminum. In my experience there is no compromise in stability after
this little fix is implemented.
Hope this helps.
I think that's what I said.
"For sixty bucks difference though, you might want to go ahead with
the pro model. Your personal choice."
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Finding someone with experience in both versions of the fence is going
to
> > be
> > nigh on to impossible, in my measly opinion. As I stated earlier, I've
> > not
> > found myself longing for that extra length of the fence itself.
>
> I did not either until I got a longer fence and realized what an advantage
> it offered, and again I wish my long one was longer at times. Have you
> actually used with any regularity a longer fence? If spending the money
for
> a new fence, why not pay a few bucks more and eliminate the doubt.
>
>