Hello all,
I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
(1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
need, etc.
Thanks
Greg
ki4bbl
G. Doughty wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
> project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
> doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
> shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
> project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
> experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
> (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
> probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
> by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
> need, etc.
>
> Thanks
> Greg
> ki4bbl
Not to be rude, here, but you should really search this group with your
more specific questions. There is more info in the archives than you
could shake a stick at. Don't be afraid to search for specific topics,
questions or answers either.
Right now you are at "I'm gonna build a large nice car from a pile of
raw metal, and I was wondering what tools I should get and where I can
get some instruction and maybe some plans. I don't know how to weld,
hand grind, shape metal, the proper lubricants for drilling aluminum,
steel or iron, and I have never upholstered or fine finished anything.
But I intend to learn along the way. Oh yeah, I'm gonna start with a
bicycle first, learning as I go and my skills should be in place by the
end of the summer."
I know you mean well, but there are too many styles to build in,
techniques, tips, tricks, tools, madatory skills you need to learn,
(and on and on) to cover with a quick post. And as you will find,
everyone has their own take on how to do things, based on their
opinion, skill level, and how well certain things work for them.
If I were you I would go to the library and check out as many books on
this subject as I could find. Also, the Time Life guys always have
tons of books in the 1/2 price or used book stores. Some of them are
quite good and have different levels of skill and tools requirements
addressed in their project lists.
Good luck!
Robert
G. Doughty wrote:
>
> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
> project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
> doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
> shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
> project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
> experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
> (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
> probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
> by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
> need, etc.
Hey Greg. Are you looking forward to a fair bit of woodworking or are
you looking for it to be done quickly on a budget? Which is most
important to you - money, time, quality, or you doing the work to have
fun? That's all up to you, so I'll tell you some options. Basically,
you have three choices:
1). Stock:
Buy the boxes from IKEA and assemble the thing. They have a fairly
wide range of styles and prices, they're easy to assemble and you could
get pretty close to a full built-in look. With a few pieces of trim
acting as closure pieces, it would be built-in.
- very few tools required, you probably already have them
- quick and finished
2). Semi-custom:
Buy the carcases (cabinet bodies) from an outfit like CabParts and
prefinished doors, drawer boxes and drawer fronts from someplace like
http://www.cabinetdoors.com You should also call around locally.
- gives you more choices in the actual design of the cabinets, style,
species of wood and configuration. You'll be much more involved in the
design, will have to make sure that all the hardware and other parts
fit correctly.
- a few more tools required than above
- takes more time, but you built yours, not someone else's
- if you want more complexity: build/have built face framing; finish
the doors and drawer fronts yourself.
- you'd be concentrating your efforts on the parts you see
3). Custom:
Either buy or build the carcases, build the doors and drawer boxes,
finish the piece.
- unless you go with simple plywood boxes, simple edged-plywood doors,
and a simple finish, the project could take a lot of hours, require a
lot of tools and enough space to build the cabinets.
- if you're a masochist, this should be your first choice, because it's
sure to be a fair bit of heartache considering it will be your first
woodworking project. You should probably start smaller - one of the
two choices above would be a good place to start! ;)
R
Take a class,watch the DIY 24 hour woodworking (WW) channel, borrow
some WW videos.Take WW magazines and books out of the library.Some
areas have co-op shops that you could build pieces in without the
investment.Some areas have WW clubs. Dont buy a bunch of equipment
without knowing if you like the hobby enough.
> G. Doughty wrote:
>>
>> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
>> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
>> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a
>> behemoth
>> project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft.
snip
"RicodJour"
> Hey Greg. Are you looking forward to a fair bit of woodworking or are
> you looking for it to be done quickly on a budget? Which is most
> important to you - money, time, quality, or you doing the work to have
> fun? That's all up to you, so I'll tell you some options. Basically,
> you have three choices:
>
> 1). Stock:
> Buy the boxes from IKEA and assemble the thing. They have a fairly
> wide range of styles and prices, they're easy to assemble and you could
> get pretty close to a full built-in look. With a few pieces of trim
> acting as closure pieces, it would be built-in.
> - very few tools required, you probably already have them
> - quick and finished
>
> 2). Semi-custom:
> Buy the carcases (cabinet bodies) from an outfit like CabParts and
> prefinished doors, drawer boxes and drawer fronts from someplace like
> http://www.cabinetdoors.com You should also call around locally.
> - gives you more choices in the actual design of the cabinets, style,
> species of wood and configuration. You'll be much more involved in the
> design, will have to make sure that all the hardware and other parts
> fit correctly.
> - a few more tools required than above
> - takes more time, but you built yours, not someone else's
> - if you want more complexity: build/have built face framing; finish
> the doors and drawer fronts yourself.
> - you'd be concentrating your efforts on the parts you see
>
> 3). Custom:
> Either buy or build the carcases, build the doors and drawer boxes,
> finish the piece.
> - unless you go with simple plywood boxes, simple edged-plywood doors,
> and a simple finish, the project could take a lot of hours, require a
> lot of tools and enough space to build the cabinets.
> - if you're a masochist, this should be your first choice, because it's
> sure to be a fair bit of heartache considering it will be your first
> woodworking project. You should probably start smaller - one of the
> two choices above would be a good place to start! ;)
>
> R
>
The above is good advice. The complexity and details determine the skill
level required, not the size. Having a plan in this case is essential.
Drawing it out yourself will also help you in determining if this is a
project you want to undertake.
I'm not the one to tell anyone (I don't know) they are taking on to big a
project however, any new project needs to be thought through carefully.
Draw the plans, study all of the connections - everyone. Show the plans to
people who do this sort of work then ask for advice on building. Who knows,
you might have the talent and patience to pull it off.
Visit a Woodcraft or Rockler store, plans-a-plenty.
Good luck and keep us informed. Don't let the nay-sayers put you off.
Dave
"Swingman"
> DIY cable TV ... where valley girl hooters and bare midriffs do it all the
> time, in 30 minutes or less.
>
Swing,
My lovely bride made me watch a DIY show last night with Roger Clemons
giving a condo to a family stuck by tragedy. (The only good part of the
show!)
The carpenter, turned furniture maker made me cringe. He made a couch
shaped like a baseball glove where the fingers were the back of the couch.
Cheap plywood and MDF, screws and no structural support for anything.
I was hoping the carpenter would sit in it, and fall on his back! It was
horrible.
Dave
G. Doughty wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
> project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
> doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
> shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
> project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
> experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
> (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
> probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
> by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
> need, etc.
>
> Thanks
> Greg
> ki4bbl
First of all, I assume you are only going to be working weekends on
this. I don't know how much free time you have, but it seems a huge
stretch to have this done by the end of summer, if you've never done
anything like this before. To give you some perspective, I am not a
masterwoodworker by any means, I guess I am intermediate, and it took
me about 2.5 months to do a single 4' wide by 7' high unit. It had a
plywood carcass, a pocket screw face frame, and solid wood raised panel
doors and drawer fronts.
The guys advice to make a few shop cabinets is a good one. That's what
I did, and it helped tremendously. It's also a lot less stressful
because it's just for the shop.
I'd recommend making the unit only 7' high. You aren't going to be
reaching up in that last foot anyway. I also recommend making a bottom
unit (maybe 32" high), then put the top unit on top. Makes it a lot
easier to install and carry into the room. You can get some good design
ideas out of books. I do mine this way, and IMO it looks better than
one monolithic piece. You could even do the project in stages, making
the bottom part first, so you could get some storage right away.
Also, I want to repeat that unless you want to make woodworking your
life long hobby, you probably won't save any money doing this by
yourself. Particularly if you have to spend about $1500 (minimum) on
tools. At bare mimimum, you'll need a good contractors saw for cutting
the plywood, a router, router table (you can build yourself), router
bits for making the doors/edges, a Kreg jig would be nice for the face
frames, decent drill, biscuit cutter, also you'll need a good random
orbital sander. A compressor and brad nail gun would also be nice
(another $200 or so).
I'
Teamcasa wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett"
> snip
> > "The most important tool in the boat yard (workshop) is the thinking
> > chair".
> >
> I agree!
> http://www.teamcasa.org/workshop/images/shop_03.jpg
>
> Dave
Sorry Dave, that's no thinkin' chair.
This, THIS, is a thinkin' chair:
http://www.americanstandard-us.com/Products/productDetail.aspx?area=bath&cat=3&col=&prodID=1624
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:34:05 GMT, "New Wave Dave"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> DIY cable TV ... where valley girl hooters and bare midriffs do it all
>> the
>> time, in 30 minutes or less.
>
> That and the "extreme makeover BS.
> For a while we were doing drywall repairs on behalf of ABC Pest
>Control. Once or twice a month one of their guys managed to step
>through someone's ceiling. But, we actually had one woman ask us if we
>could put 50 people in her house and remodel her whole kitchen in a
>single day. She "seen 'em" do it on TV in one hour!
> Swingman's right, they "seen it" on TV!
Yep. I was watching a show on DIY where they were remodeling a
bathroom a couple of days ago, and realized what was bugging me about
what they were up to- four people were shown [supposedly] doing tasks
ranging from installing tile to laying floor to building cabinets.
The strange part? Not a single one of them had a speck of dust, a
drop of sweat, or a drip of paint or caulk anywhere on them- and they
were dressed like they were going to go out on the town.
I, too, and pleased with the direction this thread is going. You are right.
There are many intricacies in doing this project, and I don't want to mess
it up. And thank you for not beating me up too badly.
Greg
"Tanus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> G. Doughty wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
>> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
>> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a
>> behemoth project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will
>> include doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and
>> different sized shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out
>> there for such a project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a
>> lot through experience and help from others. My family just bought an
>> older house (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that
>> problem. I will probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to
>> have the built-in done by the end of summer. What do you folks think.
>> What are some tools I will need, etc.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Greg
>> ki4bbl
>
> The responses to this post are the reason I regularly check the wreck.
>
> Greg, good luck on your project, however you end up doing it. It's not
> something I'd tackle, but it's not for me to say what you can and can't
> do.
>
> At time of my response, there are maybe 15 other posts in this thread, all
> of them excellent, and all of them different. It gives me an idea where
> each one of you guys is coming from. Many were encouraging Greg to sit
> back and think a bit more about the scope and complexity of what this
> project entailed, and I can't imagine any better advice. What got me is
> that nothing was mean-spirited.
>
> I too am relatively new to this craft/hobby, and I rely on threads like
> this. It tells me to slow down, take a bit of time to think things through
> when no one else will.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Tanus
>
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G. Doughty wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
> project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
> doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
> shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
> project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
> experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
> (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
> probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
> by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
> need, etc.
>
> Thanks
> Greg
> ki4bbl
>
>
The responses to this post are the reason I regularly check the wreck.
Greg, good luck on your project, however you end up doing it. It's not
something I'd tackle, but it's not for me to say what you can and can't do.
At time of my response, there are maybe 15 other posts in this thread,
all of them excellent, and all of them different. It gives me an idea
where each one of you guys is coming from. Many were encouraging Greg to
sit back and think a bit more about the scope and complexity of what
this project entailed, and I can't imagine any better advice. What got
me is that nothing was mean-spirited.
I too am relatively new to this craft/hobby, and I rely on threads like
this. It tells me to slow down, take a bit of time to think things
through when no one else will.
Thanks guys.
Tanus
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:19:45 -0400, "G. Doughty" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
>rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
>shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
>project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
>doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
>shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
>project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
>experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
>(1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
>probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
>by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
>need, etc.
Hi Greg-
I'd like to perform an appendectomy on my wife, but I don't have any
medical training or equipment, and my hands are a little shaky. But I
figure if I can find a book or two, and get that kitchen knife really
sharp, I should be a surgeon by the end of the week...
Hell- what is it about carpentry that makes every fool who found a
hammer at the Home Depot think he's got what it takes to tear down
half the house as an experiment after he's successfully hung a picture
or two?
Greg, go into the backyard and build yourself a shed, then some
birdhouses and maybe a little end table or two. Get a book on framing
and start small. If that works out for you and you enjoy it, then by
all means, move up to the bigger stuff. Don't jump into this one
first, it's going to whip you.
You're saying you've got no storage space, and I can sympathize- but
to make more storage space, especially at the scale you're describing
involves at least 8 or 9 specialized trade skills, and at least a few
years of cabinetmaking skills. That's not even looking at the table-
there's another ball of wax entirely. If you need some more closet
space, make a little closet in the corner and see if you are able to
frame it, run the electrical, sheetrock and tape it properly, paint
it, trim it and hang the door. That way, if it looks like Charlie
Brown made it when you're done, you can take it out fairly easily and
you only lost a couple hundred bucks in materials, and you'll have
some new tools to play with. You haven't done it, so you don't know
if you can or not. Some guys can do amazing things the first time
around, most make a huge mess that is actively dangerous- it takes a
long time to learn to finish a project properly, and the last thing
you want to do is overreach the first time out.
You can do whatever you want, but I'd be looking for a good divorce
lawyer if you think you're going to *learn* how to do all of that in
the middle of your house. "I plan to have the XXXX done by the end of
the summer" are famous last words. I'm not just blowing off steam,
it's a genuine warning to you- this happens to a lot of people, and
then guys like me will charge you a lot of money to tear it out and
redo it the right way.
Tanus wrote:
<snip>
> Many were encouraging Greg to
> sit back and think a bit more about the scope and complexity of what
> this project entailed, and I can't imagine any better advice. What got
> me is that nothing was mean-spirited.
>
> I too am relatively new to this craft/hobby, and I rely on threads
like
> this. It tells me to slow down, take a bit of time to think things
> through when no one else will.
Fred Bingham, whose book I have repeatedly suggested reading, wrote,
"The most important tool in the boat yard is the thinking chair".
IMHO, also applies to places other than the boat yard.
Lew
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> DIY cable TV ... where valley girl hooters and bare midriffs do it all
> the
> time, in 30 minutes or less.
That and the "extreme makeover BS.
For a while we were doing drywall repairs on behalf of ABC Pest
Control. Once or twice a month one of their guys managed to step
through someone's ceiling. But, we actually had one woman ask us if we
could put 50 people in her house and remodel her whole kitchen in a
single day. She "seen 'em" do it on TV in one hour!
Swingman's right, they "seen it" on TV!
--
"New Wave" Dave In Houston
"Prometheus" wrote in message
> Hell- what is it about carpentry that makes every fool who found a
> hammer at the Home Depot think he's got what it takes to tear down
> half the house as an experiment after he's successfully hung a picture
> or two?
DIY cable TV ... where valley girl hooters and bare midriffs do it all the
time, in 30 minutes or less.
--
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Last update: 5/6/06
G. Doughty <[email protected]> wrote:
: Hello all,
: I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
: rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
: shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a behemoth
: project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
: doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different sized
: shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
: project.
Jim Tolpin has a book called Built-In Furniture, from Taunton Press.
At Amazon it's
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006HFCF0/qid=1150175025/sr=8-7/ref=pd_bbs_7/002-0775089-5255260?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=228013
I've seen it at Border's and Barnes and Noble as well (and possibly
Woodcraft). That's the place to start.
I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
: experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
: (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I will
: probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the built-in done
: by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I will
: need, etc.
Tools?
Tablesaw with a good blade
biscuit jointer
drill
hammer
router if you want to cut molding profiles
jigsaw
-- Andy Barss
RicodJour wrote:
> G. Doughty wrote:
>>
>> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
>> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
>> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room. This is going to be a
>> behemoth
>> project as the height will be 8 ft and the width 15 ft. It will include
>> doors, a table(server complete with electrical outlet), and different
>> sized
>> shelves. I would love to know if there are plans out there for such a
>> project. I have limited knowledge, but hope to gain a lot through
>> experience and help from others. My family just bought an older house
>> (1967) that just has no storage. So I need to rectify that problem. I
>> will probably start by trying a closet system, but plan to have the
>> built-in done
>> by the end of summer. What do you folks think. What are some tools I
>> will need, etc.
>
> Hey Greg. Are you looking forward to a fair bit of woodworking or are
> you looking for it to be done quickly on a budget? Which is most
> important to you - money, time, quality, or you doing the work to have
> fun? That's all up to you, so I'll tell you some options. Basically,
> you have three choices:
>
> 1). Stock:
> Buy the boxes from IKEA and assemble the thing. They have a fairly
> wide range of styles and prices, they're easy to assemble and you could
> get pretty close to a full built-in look. With a few pieces of trim
> acting as closure pieces, it would be built-in.
> - very few tools required, you probably already have them
> - quick and finished
>
> 2). Semi-custom:
> Buy the carcases (cabinet bodies) from an outfit like CabParts and
> prefinished doors, drawer boxes and drawer fronts from someplace like
> http://www.cabinetdoors.com You should also call around locally.
> - gives you more choices in the actual design of the cabinets, style,
> species of wood and configuration. You'll be much more involved in the
> design, will have to make sure that all the hardware and other parts
> fit correctly.
> - a few more tools required than above
> - takes more time, but you built yours, not someone else's
> - if you want more complexity: build/have built face framing; finish
> the doors and drawer fronts yourself.
> - you'd be concentrating your efforts on the parts you see
>
> 3). Custom:
> Either buy or build the carcases, build the doors and drawer boxes,
> finish the piece.
> - unless you go with simple plywood boxes, simple edged-plywood doors,
> and a simple finish, the project could take a lot of hours, require a
> lot of tools and enough space to build the cabinets.
> - if you're a masochist, this should be your first choice, because it's
> sure to be a fair bit of heartache considering it will be your first
> woodworking project. You should probably start smaller - one of the
> two choices above would be a good place to start! ;)
For 3, build your shop. Make the cabinets for it in the same style and to
the same quality standard (or as close as your skill lets you come) that
you want the ones in the dining room to have. By the time you have enough
shop to do a job that size and have enough cabinets to have a stand for
each tool that needs one and storage for the portables and hand tools and
accessories and supplies, you'll have a pretty good handle on how to make
the one for the dining room, or else you'll have decided that this is
something you really don't want to get into.
> R
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no(SPAM)vasys wrote:
> G. Doughty wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
>> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
>> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room.
>
> <snip>
>
> Tom Plamann did a pretty good job of documenting what's involved in
> building a bedroom wall unit. That a look at his web site for an idea
> of what you're thinking of tackling.
>
> http://www.plamann.com/sys-tmpl/bedroomwallunit/
He should also look at Tom's _other_ work so that he's not too disappointed
when his own effort doesn't turn out to the same standard.
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New Wave Dave wrote:
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> DIY cable TV ... where valley girl hooters and bare midriffs do it all
>> the
>> time, in 30 minutes or less.
>
> That and the "extreme makeover BS.
> For a while we were doing drywall repairs on behalf of ABC Pest
> Control. Once or twice a month one of their guys managed to step
> through someone's ceiling. But, we actually had one woman ask us if we
> could put 50 people in her house and remodel her whole kitchen in a
> single day. She "seen 'em" do it on TV in one hour!
Did she want it tomorrow or was she willing to wait six months before
observing this prodigy? If there's time to prepare for it it would be an
interesting challenge.
> Swingman's right, they "seen it" on TV!
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G. Doughty wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room.
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Tom Plamann did a pretty good job of documenting what's involved in
building a bedroom wall unit. That a look at his web site for an idea
of what you're thinking of tackling.
http://www.plamann.com/sys-tmpl/bedroomwallunit/
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[email protected] wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>>Fred Bingham, whose book I have repeatedly suggested reading, wrote,
>>"The most important tool in the boat yard is the thinking chair".
>
>
> You are talking about the one with the flush handle, right?
>
Not really<G>.
Lew
"G. Doughty" wrote in message
> I am brand new to woodworking. In fact, I have never built anything but
> rudimentary shelving for the pantry. I want to tackle a
> shelving/cabinet/server for my dining room.
If what you say is true, your ambition far exceeds your skill for such a
project.
Doable, but time consuming, and way more expensive unless you already own
the tools to do it correctly ... and it's a shame to go through all that and
not be totally happy with the results.
If you're really interested in woodworking at that level, put this
particular project on the backburner, take some woodworking classes at a
local community college and learn the tools, go to the library, and start
gaining the knowledge it takes to do built-ins by starting on smaller
projects.
While built-ins appear easier than building furniture, they are tricky to do
correctly, particularly in an older house ... and what you are proposing to
embark upon will effect the value of your home for better or worse.
Just my tuppence ...
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