md

"mttt"

12/11/2003 6:29 PM

If you've bought mail-order lumber, a "S2S" question please

If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood, etc.)
and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
dress both faces?

DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd ask
someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?

Gracias!


This topic has 12 replies

md

"mttt"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 11:29 PM


"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Bought from AdvantageLumber and specified "S2S" - surface 2 sides,
> then added "plus one edge". Quite pleased w/them.
>
> S2S refers to the faces, not the edges.

Thank you!
Have also heard good things about Advantage.

Gs

"George"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 2:49 PM

I don't order wood, but two other terms worth mentioning are "hit and miss,"
which is often associated with S2S, and appears equivalent to what I learned
as "skip-planed." Double-sided planers give boards which are not perfectly
surfaced, having the occasional low spot, but are done by the mill to
accommodate optical piecing machinery, where the knots and defect are
revealed well enough to be cut away by automatic saws. Amounts usually to a
7/8 board sold as 4/4, where a properly surfaced S2S would yield 13/16.

If I were a betting man, I'd wager that most furniture places take the
pieces and run 'em through two-sided thickness sanders.

The edges on an S2S board need only be what came from the original edger,
and may, IIRC still have some wane.

"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood,
etc.)
> and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
> dress both faces?
>
> DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd ask
> someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
>
> Gracias!
>
>

bR

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 8:01 PM

Bought from AdvantageLumber and specified "S2S" - surface 2 sides,
then added "plus one edge". Quite pleased w/them.

S2S refers to the faces, not the edges.

Renata

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:29:53 GMT, "mttt" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood, etc.)
>and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
>dress both faces?
>
>DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd ask
>someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
>
>Gracias!
>
>

bR

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

13/11/2003 2:37 PM

I bought an assortment, including a number of exotics (a sampling,
shall we say, but only a few board feet each). Mainly I was after
cherry. Vaguely recall the total was on the order was ~100 bd ft and
cherry made up 50-60% of that. The cherry around here is somewhere
around $7-9 bd ft. Advantage was significantly lower and even with
shipping added in I saved a bundle.

THe DC 'burbs obviously aren't the cheapest places to get wood, though
I suppose I could make a day trip to some of the mills or other
suppliers around and get significantly better prices (than the local
places, not Advantage). For me at the time, "mail order" was the way
to go. While I didn't get to hand select my wood, the stuff that
arrived was fine and I was pleased overall with the experience.

Renata

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:41:08 -0700, WD <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:01:41 GMT, [email protected] (Renata)
>wrote:
>
>What lumber did you buy, how much per b/f and shipping cost?
>Is it really worth it?
>
>
>>Bought from AdvantageLumber and specified "S2S" - surface 2 sides,
>>then added "plus one edge". Quite pleased w/them.
>>
>> S2S refers to the faces, not the edges.
>>
>>Renata
>>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 8:12 PM

Down here it's called "S2S1E"

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"George M. Kazaka" wrote in message

> S3S is generaly
> Surfaced 3 sides or surfaced 2 sides and straight line ripped

WL

"Wade Lippman"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 10:40 PM

I followed your link and found their walnut was more than I just paid
locally!
I feel a little better.

"Erik Ahrens" <erikl_nospam_@_nospam_syserco.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just received 20 bdft of 4/4 white oak and 20 bdft of 4/4 hard maple
from
> http://Woodworkerssource.com and paid $0.20/bdft to have both edges planed
> flat. Normally it comes S2S. Had to do it as I don't have a jointer and 40
> bdft of 4/4 is a lot of edge to plane.
>
> Erik
>
> "mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood,
> etc.)
> > and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
> > dress both faces?
> >
> > DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd
ask
> > someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
> >
> > Gracias!
> >
> >
>
>

CM

Chris Merrill

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

13/11/2003 2:59 AM

mttt wrote:
> If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood, etc.)
> and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
> dress both faces?

In general, methinks S2S refers to the faces.

In specific, this is the case from Wall Lumber. Can't speak
for the others.


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WD

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 8:41 PM

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:01:41 GMT, [email protected] (Renata)
wrote:

What lumber did you buy, how much per b/f and shipping cost?
Is it really worth it?


>Bought from AdvantageLumber and specified "S2S" - surface 2 sides,
>then added "plus one edge". Quite pleased w/them.
>
> S2S refers to the faces, not the edges.
>
>Renata
>
>On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:29:53 GMT, "mttt" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood, etc.)
>>and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
>>dress both faces?
>>
>>DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd ask
>>someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
>>
>>Gracias!
>>
>>

md

"mttt"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 11:29 PM


"Erik Ahrens" <erikl_nospam_@_nospam_syserco.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I just received 20 bdft of 4/4 white oak and 20 bdft of 4/4 hard maple
from
> http://Woodworkerssource.com and paid $0.20/bdft to have both edges planed
> flat. Normally it comes S2S. Had to do it as I don't have a jointer and 40
> bdft of 4/4 is a lot of edge to plane.

Thanks Erik - I'm in a different spot. Have a jointer but no planer. Thus my
interest in S2S vs. S2S1E.

EA

"Erik Ahrens"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 2:05 PM

I just received 20 bdft of 4/4 white oak and 20 bdft of 4/4 hard maple from
http://Woodworkerssource.com and paid $0.20/bdft to have both edges planed
flat. Normally it comes S2S. Had to do it as I don't have a jointer and 40
bdft of 4/4 is a lot of edge to plane.

Erik

"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood,
etc.)
> and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
> dress both faces?
>
> DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd ask
> someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
>
> Gracias!
>
>

EA

"Erik Ahrens"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 3:57 PM

Where abouts are you, Wade? I'm in the Seattle, Redmond area. BTW, now I've
got a bunch of 4/4 I need to get resawn *^%%$#*^%. It's to damn thick for
what I need. A local cabinet shop said they will do it and resurface for
$60/hr. Said it'll take 20-30 minutes.

Erik

"Wade Lippman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I followed your link and found their walnut was more than I just paid
> locally!
> I feel a little better.
>
> "Erik Ahrens" <erikl_nospam_@_nospam_syserco.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I just received 20 bdft of 4/4 white oak and 20 bdft of 4/4 hard maple
> from
> > http://Woodworkerssource.com and paid $0.20/bdft to have both edges
planed
> > flat. Normally it comes S2S. Had to do it as I don't have a jointer and
40
> > bdft of 4/4 is a lot of edge to plane.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > "mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood,
> > etc.)
> > > and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did
they
> > > dress both faces?
> > >
> > > DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd
> ask
> > > someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
> > >
> > > Gracias!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "mttt" on 12/11/2003 6:29 PM

12/11/2003 12:41 PM

S2S = Surfaced 2 sides. S4S= Surfaced 4 sides, and of course S3S is generaly
Surfaced 3 sides or surfaced 2 sides and straight line ripped
"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you've bought mail-order lumber (e.g. Wall Lumber, Badger Hardwood,
etc.)
> and they said it was S2S, did they dress a face and an edge, or did they
> dress both faces?
>
> DAGS on "S2S" and I found conflicting definitions of S2S. Thought I'd ask
> someone who's actually bought it, what arrived?
>
> Gracias!
>
>


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