Instead of using ready-made, store-bought drawerslides, I want to use
single wood strips attached to the sides of drawers and have them slide
between double wood strips attached to the insides of a carcass.
1. Will this work or will it bind constantly? (Will I be swearing every
time I have to open the drawer?)
2. Are there any bits of sage advice I should know about gaps I should
leave, etc.?
3. Should I use a specific kind of wood that would be best for the
strips for sliding ability or for strength? (The drawer will be fir
plywood inside a Baltic Birch carcass.)
4. Should I use any kind of lubricant? (I think I still have lots of
something called K-Y, but for the life of me, I can't remember why.)
5. Will the strips be strong enough with glue and held with the
Nahm-style-brads-method until they're dry? Or will they need to be
screwed? (With or without the K-Y? Is there another way to use up this
stuff?)
Gerry
In article <qdzQc.5259$XV5.2147@trndny06>, Brad Bruce
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Make sure you have runners above the drawer
If the strip on the drawer is already sliding between the two on the
inside of the carcass, then the drawer can't tip, can it?
Gerry
In article <050820041912031251%[email protected]>, G.E.R.R.Y.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Instead of using ready-made, store-bought drawerslides, I want to use
> single wood strips attached to the sides of drawers and have them slide
> between double wood strips attached to the insides of a carcass.
>
> 1. Will this work or will it bind constantly? (Will I be swearing every
> time I have to open the drawer?)
>
> 2. Are there any bits of sage advice I should know about gaps I should
> leave, etc.?
>
> 3. Should I use a specific kind of wood that would be best for the
> strips for sliding ability or for strength? (The drawer will be fir
> plywood inside a Baltic Birch carcass.)
>
> 4. Should I use any kind of lubricant? (I think I still have lots of
> something called K-Y, but for the life of me, I can't remember why.)
>
> 5. Will the strips be strong enough with glue and held with the
> Nahm-style-brads-method until they're dry? Or will they need to be
> screwed? (With or without the K-Y? Is there another way to use up this
> stuff?)
>
> Gerry
As usual, you guys told me everything I needed to know.
If you're old enough to remember The Honeymooners, you'll know that
Ralphie boy's "Baby, you're the greatest!" meant you guys.
Gerry
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:32:53 +0000, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:38:19 -0400, "G.E.R.R.Y." <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're old enough to remember The Honeymooners, you'll know that
>>>Ralphie boy's "Baby, you're the greatest!" meant you guys.
>>
>>No, we're all too young. Now, anybody seen Alice?
>
> "Alice doesn't live here any more."
"Remember Alice? It's a song about Alice"
> Oops. thats a different reference. :)
Ah well.
"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote:
>
> In article <qdzQc.5259$XV5.2147@trndny06>, Brad Bruce
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Make sure you have runners above the drawer
>
> If the strip on the drawer is already sliding between the two on the
> inside of the carcass, then the drawer can't tip, can it?
>
> Gerry
You already figured that out, Brad was just emphasizing that the top
strip is needed. BTW, your strips should be at least 1/2" in width
and 3/4" for heavy drawers. A 1/8" gap or each side of the drawe
should be sufficient.
Note that this is just one way of building sliding drawers, but most
others require a dado or a router.
G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:
> In article <qdzQc.5259$XV5.2147@trndny06>, Brad Bruce
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Make sure you have runners above the drawer
>
> If the strip on the drawer is already sliding between the two on the
> inside of the carcass, then the drawer can't tip, can it?
>
> Gerry
Depends how it is made. The cabinets in my kitchen were made with 1x2
fronts and had wooden rails extending back from the fronts but the drawer
sides were not as tall as the openings so the draw would tip until the top
of the sides hit the bottom of the rails above. The top drawer was the
worst since there were no rails for a drawer above it so it would hit the
bottom of the countertop and was hanging at about a 30 degree angle.
I have seen a lot of furniture with wooden rails old and new made to fit
certain styles where that was common.
"G.E.R.R.Y." wrote in message
> Instead of using ready-made, store-bought drawerslides, I want to use
> single wood strips attached to the sides of drawers and have them slide
> between double wood strips attached to the insides of a carcass.
There are many other ways to skin that cat also. Scroll on down to the last
two items for a couple of other ideas used in traditional furniture.
http://65.201.81.222/Projects3.htm.
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In article <[email protected]>,
igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:38:19 -0400, "G.E.R.R.Y." <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>>If you're old enough to remember The Honeymooners, you'll know that
>>Ralphie boy's "Baby, you're the greatest!" meant you guys.
>
>No, we're all too young. Now, anybody seen Alice?
"Alice doesn't live here any more."
Oops. thats a different reference. :)
1) KY is definitely for woodies and sliding.
2) It will work. Some people even make the slides with a bevel so
it's like a dovetail "tail" on the drawer and the pin side on the
carcass. All cut on the table saw and sand smooth.
3) Assemble the three pieces together on the carcass and then slide
the center piece out to be attached to drawer box.
4) Some people wax the slides. Rub with parrafin wax and work the
slides. Which will reduce the friction.
5) I thought of doing the above, but found an easier way. Just
check out LeeValley Tools website and look at their drawer slides.
Particularly the extruded aluminum tracking that simply fits into a
saw kerf. It comes with a groove for the drawer bottom, you just need
to notch the drawer fronts and backs, and cut it to the length you
need.
6) If memory serves me correctly, they also sell wooden drawer slides
like you want. You might get some good ideas for how to make them.
7) The slide you choose is really dependant on the weight your going
to put in the drawer. Once again, see LV's catalogue and look at
what the manufacturers are selling and their weight capacities and
you'll start to get some good ideas on building your own.
Hope this helps.
Pat
On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 19:12:03 -0400, "G.E.R.R.Y."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Instead of using ready-made, store-bought drawerslides, I want to use
>single wood strips attached to the sides of drawers and have them slide
>between double wood strips attached to the insides of a carcass.
>
>1. Will this work or will it bind constantly? (Will I be swearing every
>time I have to open the drawer?)
>
>2. Are there any bits of sage advice I should know about gaps I should
>leave, etc.?
>
>3. Should I use a specific kind of wood that would be best for the
>strips for sliding ability or for strength? (The drawer will be fir
>plywood inside a Baltic Birch carcass.)
>
>4. Should I use any kind of lubricant? (I think I still have lots of
>something called K-Y, but for the life of me, I can't remember why.)
>
>5. Will the strips be strong enough with glue and held with the
>Nahm-style-brads-method until they're dry? Or will they need to be
>screwed? (With or without the K-Y? Is there another way to use up this
>stuff?)
>
>Gerry
G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:
> Instead of using ready-made, store-bought drawerslides, I want to use
> single wood strips attached to the sides of drawers and have them slide
> between double wood strips attached to the insides of a carcass.
>
> 1. Will this work or will it bind constantly? (Will I be swearing every
> time I have to open the drawer?)
>
> 2. Are there any bits of sage advice I should know about gaps I should
> leave, etc.?
>
> 3. Should I use a specific kind of wood that would be best for the
> strips for sliding ability or for strength? (The drawer will be fir
> plywood inside a Baltic Birch carcass.)
>
> 4. Should I use any kind of lubricant? (I think I still have lots of
> something called K-Y, but for the life of me, I can't remember why.)
>
> 5. Will the strips be strong enough with glue and held with the
> Nahm-style-brads-method until they're dry? Or will they need to be
> screwed? (With or without the K-Y? Is there another way to use up this
> stuff?)
>
> Gerry
Any hardwood should do. Make sure you have runners above the drawer as
well to prevent tipping.
I use parafin to lubricate drawer runners with good success.
Brad
Gerry,
As someone already said, there are a number of ways to make sliding drawers.
Here's a link that will give you an idea of how one quality manufacture near
me makes theirs. Take the factory tour, read and look at the pics - worth a
few moments of your time and it may influence your decision.
http://www.stickley.com/tour/index.html
Bob S.
"G.E.R.R.Y." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:050820041912031251%[email protected]...
> Instead of using ready-made, store-bought drawerslides, I want to use
> single wood strips attached to the sides of drawers and have them slide
> between double wood strips attached to the insides of a carcass.
>
> 1. Will this work or will it bind constantly? (Will I be swearing every
> time I have to open the drawer?)
>
> 2. Are there any bits of sage advice I should know about gaps I should
> leave, etc.?
>
> 3. Should I use a specific kind of wood that would be best for the
> strips for sliding ability or for strength? (The drawer will be fir
> plywood inside a Baltic Birch carcass.)
>
> 4. Should I use any kind of lubricant? (I think I still have lots of
> something called K-Y, but for the life of me, I can't remember why.)
>
> 5. Will the strips be strong enough with glue and held with the
> Nahm-style-brads-method until they're dry? Or will they need to be
> screwed? (With or without the K-Y? Is there another way to use up this
> stuff?)
>
> Gerry
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:38:19 -0400, "G.E.R.R.Y." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>If you're old enough to remember The Honeymooners, you'll know that
>Ralphie boy's "Baby, you're the greatest!" meant you guys.
No, we're all too young. Now, anybody seen Alice?