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"Lee Michaels"

18/09/2008 2:34 PM

Off Topic - Comcast Newsgroups Alternatives

I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.

Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
doesn't cost too much.

Thanks.



This topic has 19 replies

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Chris

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 5:10 PM

Lee Michaels wrote:
> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
> doesn't cost too much.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
When Time Warner did away with USENET we (wife and I) went with Astra Web Pay
as you go plan http://www.news.astraweb.com/ $10 for 25 gig. We have had it for
several months now and have no complaints. We are fairly heavy users of USENET,
but light on the binary groups. I look at woodworkers and train binary. Our use
to date is 17,602,130 bytes (0.02 GB) As you see a little goes a long way.

They just started a new plan also for 110GB $25.00

Hope this helps

Chris

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 8:21 PM

"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am
> facing a newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something
> that doesn't cost too much.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

Google Groups works in a pinch, but naturally it's not ideal.

I use Astraweb. They had a 60GB of transfer for $25, which will take me
forever to go through. (I only read the occasional binary post.)

Puckdropper
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To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

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mac davis

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

19/09/2008 7:43 AM

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:34:42 -0400, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
>newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
>Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
>doesn't cost too much.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
I've been using APN for about a year now and really like it..

http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

For most folks, the $3 a month plan is all that they need..

Very fast, all my NG's available, no ads, good retention, etc..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Pn

Phil

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

22/09/2008 5:37 PM

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:43:23 -0700, mac davis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:34:42 -0400, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
Snip
>>Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
>>doesn't cost too much.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>I've been using APN for about a year now and really like it..
>
>http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php
>
>For most folks, the $3 a month plan is all that they need..
>
>Very fast, all my NG's available, no ads, good retention, etc..
>
>
>mac
>
>Please remove splinters before emailing

I'm with Mac as above :)

Rgds,
Phil.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 1:32 PM

On Sep 18, 2:34=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing =
a
> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? =A0Preferably something tha=
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> doesn't cost too much.
>
> Thanks.

I'm on comcast and haven't heard anything about newsgroups being cut?

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 7:52 PM

"Swingman" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
>> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>>
>> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
>> doesn't cost too much.
>
>I'm partial to Giganews ... $7.99/mo for 2 GB. Much more than you need for
>wRec/apbw combined. High retention rate, and excellent service and
>reliability.
>
>

Usenetserver.com. $14.95/mo unlimited, min 105 days retention.

scott

s

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 2:53 PM

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:34:42 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
>newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
>Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
>doesn't cost too much.
>
>Thanks.
>
>

I posted this in another thread you were in, but I guess you missed
it:

Usenet participation has been on the wane for some time for other
reasons. Meanwhile, there are other avenues to Usenet access, both for
free, and commercially.

AIOE.org doesn't even require you to register, sign up or give them
your email address. You just use their server. They only carry text
based groups, and they limit you to 25 posts per 24 hour period.
That's plenty for most people.

Go to www.aioe.org for the settings you need to configure your news
reader.

There are also free news servers that require some sort of
registration, but do not charge anything, such as motzarella.org

Finally there are commercial services, such as newsguy.com, who have
plans starting at about $3 a month for access to all groups including
binaries. The prices of the plans depend on how many megabytes you
want to download per month. If you only occasionally download a few
pictures or small files, and mostly do text groups such as this one,
the cheapest plan is plenty. They roll over any megabytes you don't
use, so you eventually build up a reserve that will allow you to
download something big, such as a movie.

Em

"Eigenvector"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 8:27 PM


"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
>newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
> doesn't cost too much.
>
> Thanks.
>

While not pertaining to your request per se, I'm actually welcoming it to
some degree. While I find the Usenet groups very handy for questions, I
find the idea of paying 8 bucks a month to read SPAM, trolls, and political
posts in this group to not be worth it at all - especially when the number
of wood related questions is almost non-existent.

Personally I'm going to drop all Usenet and see how it goes.

BH

Bob Haar

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 8:27 PM

On 9/18/08 2:34 PMSep 18, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.

You should take this discussion to alt.online-service,comcast where it is
not OT.

BTW - You can find the announcement at http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/



Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

22/09/2008 6:35 PM

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080922-lights-out-for-usenet-access-through-comcast.html


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"dadiOH"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

19/09/2008 7:40 AM

Eigenvector wrote:

> While not pertaining to your request per se, I'm actually welcoming
> it to some degree. While I find the Usenet groups very handy for
> questions, I find the idea of paying 8 bucks a month to read SPAM,
> trolls, and political posts in this group to not be worth it at all -
> especially when the number of wood related questions is almost
> non-existent.
> Personally I'm going to drop all Usenet and see how it goes.

So where are you going to get all your questions answered? Home Depot?

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Han

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

19/09/2008 11:28 AM

"Eigenvector" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am
>>facing a newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>>
>> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something
>> that doesn't cost too much.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> While not pertaining to your request per se, I'm actually welcoming it
> to some degree. While I find the Usenet groups very handy for
> questions, I find the idea of paying 8 bucks a month to read SPAM,
> trolls, and political posts in this group to not be worth it at all -
> especially when the number of wood related questions is almost
> non-existent.
>
> Personally I'm going to drop all Usenet and see how it goes.
>
As I have posted ad nauseam, I paid astraweb $10 for 25 GB of download
<http://www.news.astraweb.com/>, to be used as I desire. Headers are not
included in the download quota. I paid June 20, 2008 and to date I have
used 91,372,146 bytes (0.09 GB), with 24,908,627,854 bytes (24.91 GB)
remaining, according to their website.

So that is far from $8/month.

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Em

"Eigenvector"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

19/09/2008 8:37 PM


"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Eigenvector wrote:
>
>> While not pertaining to your request per se, I'm actually welcoming
>> it to some degree. While I find the Usenet groups very handy for
>> questions, I find the idea of paying 8 bucks a month to read SPAM,
>> trolls, and political posts in this group to not be worth it at all -
>> especially when the number of wood related questions is almost
>> non-existent.
>> Personally I'm going to drop all Usenet and see how it goes.
>
> So where are you going to get all your questions answered? Home Depot?
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>

I sure ask a lot of questions, that I know, but so far I haven't asked about
how evil Republicans are, or how the country is bankrupt and it's all the
Republican's fault, or even how Sarah Palin will bring about armageddon. I
guess when I get to that stage I'll come back. But for now, oh well. If I
have a question about something I'll ask the people I should ask - friends,
family, or my own personal experiences.

We'll see, maybe forcing people to pay for Usenet will clean out the trolls,
OT posts, and bring it back to an advice oriented forum. I doubt that, in
fact I suspect that making people pay will reduce the members to an even
smaller subset - further reinforcing the notion that the forum is "theirs"
and making it even less approachable to strangers. There are quite a few
groups out in Usenet land that have such tight memberships that newbies get
roughed up at the slightest transgression. Read comp.lang.c for a taste of
how bad it can get. There are also more than plenty of groups that have
been taken over by trolls - to the point where new questions are not
advisable.

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 1:55 PM

Swingman wrote:
> "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
>> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>>
>> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
>> doesn't cost too much.
>
> I'm partial to Giganews ... $7.99/mo for 2 GB. Much more than you need for
> wRec/apbw combined. High retention rate, and excellent service and
> reliability.
>
>
usenet-news.net sells access by the gigabyte, use any time with no
monthly rates or expiration date, includes both text and binary groups.
$5.00 gets you 10GB of downloads. $24.00 gets you 100 GB. $66.00
gets you 300 GB.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 3:12 PM

Lee Michaels wrote:
> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am
> facing a newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something
> that doesn't cost too much.

If you don't want binaries,
http://schmidt.devlib.org/usenet/free-news-servers.html lists several
free servers.

http://news.individual.net is ten Euros (approx 15 bucks) a year.

http://www.newsguy.com starts at about 8 bucks a month and has
binaries.

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james187

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

20/09/2008 9:21 AM


This site has good price for many products. I have used it many time.
http://www.thehardwarecity.com/




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"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

22/09/2008 8:28 PM


"Swingman" wrote

> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080922-lights-out-for-usenet-access-through-comcast.html
>
>
It is ironic that the word scumbag was not used once in that article.

I have been having trouble with my newsgroup access for several months now
anyway. I will need to convert very soon. I have had to shut down and start
up the concast newsgroups at least 15 times a day for the last three days.
And there are periods of no access at all. Think they are giving me a hint?

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 1:54 PM



"Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>
> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver? Preferably something that
> doesn't cost too much.

I'm partial to Giganews ... $7.99/mo for 2 GB. Much more than you need for
wRec/apbw combined. High retention rate, and excellent service and
reliability.


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Kenneth

in reply to "Lee Michaels" on 18/09/2008 2:34 PM

18/09/2008 9:14 PM

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:32:35 -0700 (PDT), Tom Watson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sep 18, 2:34 pm, "Lee Michaels" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I know that we have had this discussion before. But now that I am facing a
>> newsgroup amputation, I am getting a bit upset.
>>
>> Any suggestions for an alternative newserver?  Preferably something that
>> doesn't cost too much.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>I'm on comcast and haven't heard anything about newsgroups being cut?
>

Hi Tom,

I had not seen anything either, but indeed, it is true.
Comcast will eliminate its access to GigaNews on October 25.

Check here: http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

All the best,
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