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06/02/2009 8:26 AM

What is a good 1/4 inch veneer substrate?

I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
good substate for the
veneered panel would be.

How about masonite?


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RC

Robatoy

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 9:13 AM

On Feb 6, 11:51=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
> > good substate for the
> > veneered panel would be.
>
> > How about masonite?
>
> For strength, probably "real" Baltic Birch plywood.

Lately I am having a rough time finding any 'real' Baltic birch that
is flat.
One of the last 5'x5' BB sheets I received could have been made into a
bird bath. I sent it back.
My supplier assures me that the problem is industry wide from the same
people who supplied him for the last 20 years.
10 flat sheets..then 2 bad ones... very inconsistent. And the PRICE of
that stuff... what?.. Bentley opened a dealership in Finland?

GA

"Gary A in KC"

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 10:28 AM

MDF is probably one of the best veneer substrates. Good flat surface for
gluing. Good dimensional stability
If you're going to need to attach fasteners (e.g. screws) to a substrate,
then a good baltic birch/finnish birch ply is usually my preference.
my 2 cents

Gary A in KC

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
> good substate for the
> veneered panel would be.
>
> How about masonite?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 2:59 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:070b8aab-5cb8-4dd6-959d-4c7396a8d929@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 6, 11:51 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
> > good substate for the
> > veneered panel would be.
>
> > How about masonite?
>
> For strength, probably "real" Baltic Birch plywood.

Lately I am having a rough time finding any 'real' Baltic birch that
is flat.
One of the last 5'x5' BB sheets I received could have been made into a
bird bath. I sent it back.
My supplier assures me that the problem is industry wide from the same
people who supplied him for the last 20 years.
10 flat sheets..then 2 bad ones... very inconsistent. And the PRICE of
that stuff... what?.. Bentley opened a dealership in Finland?


Unfortunately you probably are not getting true Baltic Birch. I can ask for
it all day long and never get it, although it is sold as such. Many will
admit that they sell Russian Birch. Typically the real thing it does not
have fuzzy edges or surfaces, remember? ;~)

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 5:35 PM

Robatoy wrote:
>
> Just exactly what do you guys do in Texas kitchens?

You don't let the horses in?

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 2:58 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
> good substate for the
> veneered panel would be.
>
> How about masonite?

Masonite is fine. Assuming you can find it with two smooth sides rather
than one smooth, other screened.

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RC

Robatoy

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 1:36 PM

On Feb 6, 4:02=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Leon wrote:
> >>> I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what =
a
> >>> good substate for the
> >>> veneered panel would be.
>
> >>> How about masonite?
>
> >> For strength, probably "real" Baltic Birch plywood.
>
> > What kind of strength do you need in a floating panel?
> > (I'm not being a smartass.)
>
> Every once in a while a door becomes a punching bag or gets in the way of=
a
> flying object. =A0 Masonite or MDF will not take a blow like BB will. =A0=
I
> always consider what could happen and how much trouble it would be to
> replace it.

Just exactly what do you guys do in Texas kitchens?

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 11:51 AM

Leon wrote:
>> I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
>> good substate for the
>> veneered panel would be.
>>
>> How about masonite?
>
> For strength, probably "real" Baltic Birch plywood.
>

What kind of strength do you need in a floating panel?
(I'm not being a smartass.)


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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 10:51 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
> good substate for the
> veneered panel would be.
>
> How about masonite?

For strength, probably "real" Baltic Birch plywood.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 06/02/2009 8:26 AM

06/02/2009 3:02 PM


"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>>> I plan on making my first frame and panel door and am wondering what a
>>> good substate for the
>>> veneered panel would be.
>>>
>>> How about masonite?
>>
>> For strength, probably "real" Baltic Birch plywood.
>
> What kind of strength do you need in a floating panel?
> (I'm not being a smartass.)


Every once in a while a door becomes a punching bag or gets in the way of a
flying object. Masonite or MDF will not take a blow like BB will. I
always consider what could happen and how much trouble it would be to
replace it.


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