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Limp Arbor

06/02/2009 5:22 AM

Free issue of WWJ online

Future of magazine subscriptions?

Has a plan for a fold down outfeed table that looks interesting.

http://www.zinio.com/express3?issue=337285059&ref_id=6501&ref_t=Z&originid=69422724


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"DGDevin"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 9:46 AM

Lee Michaels wrote:

> Windows Magazine? I have fond memories of that magazine. They
> changed to a business format. Then died shortly thereafter.
>
> I never understood the concept of taking something that is successful
> and killing it through unwanted "innovation". If it ain't broke,
> don't fix it.

That often happens when one company moves into an area that's new for them
by buying a smaller company and just doesn't understand the new market. The
classic example was when a German company bought Alka-Seltzer without
realizing it was a blue-collar over-indulgence remedy, they tried to take it
upscale with advertising aimed at a hipper market, the result was falling
sales. The difference in woodworking is a tool company buys another tool
company--you'd think they'd know what they're doing--and still manages to
ruin the brand they just bought by cutting corners and trashing its
reputation. Makes me sad to see a once superior brand turned into
made-in-China junk.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 8:32 AM


"Limp Arbor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:acc7fb99-48b0-4836-8289-f821f031635b@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Future of magazine subscriptions?
>
> Has a plan for a fold down outfeed table that looks interesting.
>
> http://www.zinio.com/express3?issue=337285059&ref_id=6501&ref_t=Z&originid=69422724
>
I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almost
nothing else.


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 10:50 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:b97b2647-5ed0-4e2a-aaf9-922f68d7b650@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 6, 7:32 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
>> former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almost
>> nothing else.
>
> Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
> reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
> subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
> doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
> will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
> would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.
>
>
> Many years ago I subscribed to PC Magazine but they went to strictly
> internet, did they go pack to publishing a magazine? That was the reason
> I switched over to PC World.
>
>
Yes ,they published a paper magazine till a month ago. I subscribed a few
months ago when they still came out every two weeks. Then they got a new
boss who said it will be once a month. That lasted a few issues when they
said no more paper mag, just digital.

And with each issue, it gets smaller and smaller. There was ONE good
article in the whole issue. It seems like their whole appeal is nostalgia.
I don't see how they can survive on that. They may be able to do it if it
becomes a total bare bones operation. But who is going to stick around for
that?


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 10:52 AM


<[email protected]> wrote

On Feb 6, 7:32 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:

> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
> former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almost
> nothing else.

Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.

My long time favorite is PC World, and apparently they are tinkering
with the same ideas. They are already skinny enough to be called a
pamphlet these days, but they announced that December's issue had
dropped yet two more departments.

I remember when I would get PC World, PC Magazine, and the Computer
Shopper. I literally couldn't digest all those articles in a month
before the next issues came out. With only two of those three left, I
can finish them both in a little more than an hour since there is so
little actual information in them.

How sad.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I hear ya. Magazines traditionally provided information and reading
pleasure. Not much of that any more.


LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 12:05 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Keith Nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Leon wrote:
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:b97b2647-5ed0-4e2a-aaf9-922f68d7b650@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Feb 6, 7:32 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
>>>> former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But
>>>> almost
>>>> nothing else.
>>>
>>> Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
>>> reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
>>> subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
>>> doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
>>> will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
>>> would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.
>>>
>>>
>>> Many years ago I subscribed to PC Magazine but they went to strictly
>>> internet, did they go pack to publishing a magazine? That was the
>>> reason I switched over to PC World.
>
>
> My mistake, I was thinking Windows Magazine.
>

Windows Magazine? I have fond memories of that magazine. They changed to a
business format. Then died shortly thereafter.

I never understood the concept of taking something that is successful and
killing it through unwanted "innovation". If it ain't broke, don't fix it.






Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 10:53 AM


"Keith Nuttle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:b97b2647-5ed0-4e2a-aaf9-922f68d7b650@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 6, 7:32 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
>>> former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almost
>>> nothing else.
>>
>> Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
>> reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
>> subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
>> doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
>> will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
>> would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.
>>
>>
>> Many years ago I subscribed to PC Magazine but they went to strictly
>> internet, did they go pack to publishing a magazine? That was the reason
>> I switched over to PC World.


My mistake, I was thinking Windows Magazine.

nn

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 6:58 AM

On Feb 6, 7:32=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:

> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. =A0It is a shadow of its
> former self. So sad. =A0At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almo=
st
> nothing else.

Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.

My long time favorite is PC World, and apparently they are tinkering
with the same ideas. They are already skinny enough to be called a
pamphlet these days, but they announced that December's issue had
dropped yet two more departments.

I remember when I would get PC World, PC Magazine, and the Computer
Shopper. I literally couldn't digest all those articles in a month
before the next issues came out. With only two of those three left, I
can finish them both in a little more than an hour since there is so
little actual information in them.

How sad.

Robert

KN

Keith Nuttle

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 10:13 AM

Leon wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:b97b2647-5ed0-4e2a-aaf9-922f68d7b650@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 6, 7:32 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
>> former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almost
>> nothing else.
>
> Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
> reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
> subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
> doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
> will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
> would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.
>
>
> Many years ago I subscribed to PC Magazine but they went to strictly
> internet, did they go pack to publishing a magazine? That was the reason I
> switched over to PC World.
>
>
>
>
>
>
The largest down side to e-magazines is that my wife will not let me
take the computer into the "Reading Room"

JS

Jack Stein

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 3:24 PM

Leon wrote:

>>> Many years ago I subscribed to PC Magazine but they went to strictly
>>> internet, did they go pack to publishing a magazine? That was the reason
>>> I switched over to PC World.

> My mistake, I was thinking Windows Magazine.

Not much of a mistake. I quit reading PC Gag when it turned out it WAS
a windows rag.

--
Jack
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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Limp Arbor on 06/02/2009 5:22 AM

06/02/2009 9:05 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b97b2647-5ed0-4e2a-aaf9-922f68d7b650@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 6, 7:32 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:

> I just got my PC magazine changed over to this. It is a shadow of its
> former self. So sad. At least John Dvorack is still in there. But almost
> nothing else.

Not even the old grandaddy John D. is a big enough draw to keep me
reading PC mag in that format. One of the joys of a magazine
subscription is to have something to read when I am having lunch that
doesn't have anything to do with construction. I think this format
will have a lot of appeal to the geekazoids, but not much more. I
would suspect that we are getting ready to lose PC mag.


Many years ago I subscribed to PC Magazine but they went to strictly
internet, did they go pack to publishing a magazine? That was the reason I
switched over to PC World.






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