I always kind of wondered:
Would a blacksmith be able to utilise any of the steel in the router
bits? I mean, it seems like it's pretty high grade stuff, and I know
some blacksmiths use chainsaw blades to make knives.
Anyone know?
-Nathan
Andy wrote:
> DJ Delorie wrote:
> > Router bits don't last forever, so don't try to keep them forever.
>
> Especially broken ones. Why is that still rolling around in my drawer?
> Nicer (unbroken) ones may be worth sharpening, however.
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "N Hurst" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I always kind of wondered:
> >
> >Would a blacksmith be able to utilise any of the steel in the router
> >bits? I mean, it seems like it's pretty high grade stuff, and I know
> >some blacksmiths use chainsaw blades to make knives.
>
> ??? Maybe I need a little more coffee... but I'm having a *real* hard time
> imagining how you could turn a chainsaw blade into a knife. Do you mean
> chainsaw *bars* ?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Sorry to seem like I posted and ran. I had a busy weekend and didn't
get much time in front of a computer.
To turn a chainsaw blade into a knife, you do it the way you'd make any
knife out of raw stock: Heat the hell out of it then beat it into
submission.
Here's a link to a photo of someone's work in turning a chainsaw blade
into a knife:
http://www.juliusmojzis.com/damaskove_noze/damask8.html
A simple Google search will turn up more (such as
http://www.artistblacksmith.com/courses.htm look for "pattern
welding"). It's really an interesting topic. Basically the different
metals in the blade (just like on a normal carbide tipped blade) cause
different patterns to emerge in the metal when it's folded over and
over, and eventually you can forge it into a shape, grind it clean,
then give it a bit of an acid wash, and you've got a "damascus" blade.
Blacksmithing is a hobby I want to pick up, eventually, so I study it
sort of how I study Woodworking. I have as much respect for the artists
working in metal as I do those in wood.
-Nathan
Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "N Hurst" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> Here's a link to a photo of someone's work in turning a chainsaw blade
> >> into a knife:
> >> http://www.juliusmojzis.com/damaskove_noze/damask8.html
> >
> > I gotta say, on some of those knives I am not sure that the handle would
> > be the end that you would want to hold on to. ;~)
> >
> I was thinking the same thing. This stuff is obviously "knife art".
>
> I am curious to the actual number of hours it takes to convert a big mass of
> chain saw chain into one of these "knives". It can't be that different than
> what was done in the old days to make a knife in terms of fire and hammer
> blows.
Oh, don't be misled... they're bona fide functional blades. There's a
huge cottage industry of people making specialised "pattern welded"
(aka "damascus") blades for folks. It's art, yes, but it is as much a
true knife as it is a piece of art. If I'd just linked some random
pattern welded blade photos, it would be harder to believe. :-)
Time wise, I don't know for sure. I imagine the benefit of using a
chainsaw blade over something else is that they're fairly cheap, easy
to obtain, and everything's already together.
The funny thing is that metal working (especially bladesmithing) is
very similar to woodworking in that people seriously underestimate the
value of a finished piece.
-Nathan
In article <[email protected]>, "N Hurst" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I always kind of wondered:
>
>Would a blacksmith be able to utilise any of the steel in the router
>bits? I mean, it seems like it's pretty high grade stuff, and I know
>some blacksmiths use chainsaw blades to make knives.
??? Maybe I need a little more coffee... but I'm having a *real* hard time
imagining how you could turn a chainsaw blade into a knife. Do you mean
chainsaw *bars* ?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
"N Hurst" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Here's a link to a photo of someone's work in turning a chainsaw blade
> into a knife:
> http://www.juliusmojzis.com/damaskove_noze/damask8.html
I gotta say, on some of those knives I am not sure that the handle would be
the end that you would want to hold on to. ;~)
Cool site.
"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1165602032.050614.132620
@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> DJ Delorie wrote:
>> Router bits don't last forever, so don't try to keep them forever.
>
> Especially broken ones. Why is that still rolling around in my drawer?
> Nicer (unbroken) ones may be worth sharpening, however.
>
>
There's a head from a Callaway golf driver on my bookshelf, with the
shattered remains of a fancy graphite shaft attached loosely to it. A
lesson that loaning certain items to sons comes at a potential cost.
A bent/broken router bit might have a teaching moment attached, no?
Patriarch
DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> Patriarch <[email protected]> writes:
>> A bent/broken router bit might have a teaching moment attached, no?
>
> I was trying to get people to realize that router bits are not so much
> "tools" as they are "consumables" - they have a finite life span, then
> you replace them. Like sandpaper, you don't keep them forever. So my
> plan is to go through my inventory and make a list of the bits that
> are used enough that they should be replaced with new ones, and
> replace them next time I go to the tool store.
>
OK. But my sharpening guy can sharpen the ones that are worth doing.
These days, most of mine are suffering from being ignored.
Patriarch
In article <[email protected]>,
N Hurst <[email protected]> wrote:
>I always kind of wondered:
>
>Would a blacksmith be able to utilise any of the steel in the router
>bits? I mean, it seems like it's pretty high grade stuff, and I know
>some blacksmiths use chainsaw blades to make knives.
>
>Anyone know?
>
>-Nathan
>
You almost had me going there for a minute. :)
--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - [email protected]
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "N Hurst" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Here's a link to a photo of someone's work in turning a chainsaw blade
>> into a knife:
>> http://www.juliusmojzis.com/damaskove_noze/damask8.html
>
> I gotta say, on some of those knives I am not sure that the handle would
> be the end that you would want to hold on to. ;~)
>
I was thinking the same thing. This stuff is obviously "knife art".
I am curious to the actual number of hours it takes to convert a big mass of
chain saw chain into one of these "knives". It can't be that different than
what was done in the old days to make a knife in terms of fire and hammer
blows.
"N Hurst" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Oh, don't be misled... they're bona fide functional blades. There's a
> huge cottage industry of people making specialised "pattern welded"
> (aka "damascus") blades for folks. It's art, yes, but it is as much a
> true knife as it is a piece of art. If I'd just linked some random
> pattern welded blade photos, it would be harder to believe. :-)
Some of them are "functional" knives, some of them are strictly art with
multiple sharp edges. The blade on some would be the safer end to hold on to
and those are not functional.
Eithery way they all are pretty cool knives.
> Time wise, I don't know for sure. I imagine the benefit of using a
Patriarch <[email protected]> writes:
> A bent/broken router bit might have a teaching moment attached, no?
I was trying to get people to realize that router bits are not so much
"tools" as they are "consumables" - they have a finite life span, then
you replace them. Like sandpaper, you don't keep them forever. So my
plan is to go through my inventory and make a list of the bits that
are used enough that they should be replaced with new ones, and
replace them next time I go to the tool store.
"Andy" <[email protected]> writes:
> Especially broken ones. Why is that still rolling around in my drawer?
I was thinking more of dull ones that have been sharpened too many
times, and burn rather than cut through the wood.