Mm

-MIKE-

16/11/2014 12:51 PM

My Summer Project

What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)

I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small for a
barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.

It's purpose for the time being is to store everything that is now
packed like sardines in my garage, and then some. Hopefully this will
allow me to have a shop and/or drum room in the garage. Future plan are
to run electric out to it so it can become the shop/brewery/bat-cave.
:-)

The front looks a little goofy right now. Try to picture a flat,
slanted overhang/awning coming down from about soffit-level to the
horizontal trim board running above the doors. I'm also still undecided
on whether to have a deck-way from the door thresholds to grade, or
bring in gravel and fill it.

That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both sides)
was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the building and
it works very well. They're made from corrugated polycarbonate roof
panels.

It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty much
anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in life. :-)


--

-MIKE-

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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Sc

Sonny

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 11:20 AM

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:51:23 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
20'x24' with 10' walls.=20
> It's purpose for the time being is to store everything=20

Storage space above the ceiling joists, also? My shop has some space up th=
ere.

> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty much
> anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in life. :=
-)

Looks good, all 'round. =20
.... Royal green trim? http://www.colourlovers.com/color/204D02/royal_gree=
n

Eye level windows, so you can see what's going on outside. I like to see w=
hat's going on outdoors.... and at my home, some good distance, next door. =
What I don't care for, with my scenario, is someone can, somewhat, also se=
e what's going on in my shop. This is one reason why I eliminated the fron=
t door of the shop (originally a rent house), facing the road. =20

Sonny

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 4:19 PM


"-MIKE-" wrote:

> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>
> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small
> for a
> barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
<snip>
-----------------------------------------------
Looking good.

My father built our home after WWII on a foundation of that
approximate size.

It was intended to be an oversized garage/shop when the house was
built.

Things changed and the house never got built, but that is life.

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 6:06 PM


"-MIKE-" wrote:

>
> Thanks for the nice comments. For those talking about windows...
> Yes, I want to eventually add windows if this ends up being a shop.
> The
> back yard is beautiful with lots of bird and squirrel activity, so
> I'd
> love to have a view. I'd also like to get a cross breeze with the
> garage door.
---------------------------------------------------
If you decide to put in power, do it with solar.

Energy storage improvements are continuing to be made.

Keeps the power company clutter out.

Lew


EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 5:59 AM

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 00:08:44 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:



>
>It's amazing how much trees shade a home. It's also amazing how much
>they do to block sound, but that's another topic. :-)
>

I read someplace years ago that a good shade tree is equal to a 12,000
BTU air conditioner.

Cc

Casper

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

19/11/2014 11:37 AM

>What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)

Nice. Wish I had room for one like that. I don't have a garage anymore
and miss it. If I move again, which I hope to do one day, I will have
another.

>I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small for a
>barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.

LOL. Good a name. I wonder if that's what they are called in Ireland.

>It's purpose for the time being is to store everything that is now
>packed like sardines in my garage, and then some. Hopefully this will
>allow me to have a shop and/or drum room in the garage. Future plan are
>to run electric out to it so it can become the shop/brewery/bat-cave.
>:-)
>
>The front looks a little goofy right now. Try to picture a flat,
>slanted overhang/awning coming down from about soffit-level to the
>horizontal trim board running above the doors. I'm also still undecided
>on whether to have a deck-way from the door thresholds to grade, or
>bring in gravel and fill it.
>
>That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both sides)
>was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the building and
>it works very well. They're made from corrugated polycarbonate roof
>panels.
>
>It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty much
>anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in life. :-)
>Mike

Hope you get much good use and enjoyment out of it.
`Casper

Sk

Swingman

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 6:22 PM

On 11/17/2014 9:49 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/17/14, 7:21 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/16/2014 7:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> In any case, if I build another house in my lifetime, the outbuilding is
>>> going up first. I swore to that after building my first home up in
>>> Ohio... when I finished the outbuilding second. :-)
>>
>> Exactly what I did by not demo'ing the old single car utility
>> room/garage, which is now my shop (once again), when I built the house
>> we now live in.
>>
>> Having a shop onsite to work in when building the main structure is
>> damned handy when you do some of the work yourself:
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011?noredirect=1#5661590406311300114
>>
>>
>
> "Keep Out" AND "No Trespassing!"
> It's a shame we need to post signs to tell people not to steal our $h!t.
> I guess in TX that makes it even more legal to shoot the bast@rd, huh? :-)

Basically, without signs giving notice, it is difficult to charge anyone
charge with trespassing in Texas.

No one in their right mind would consider shooting someone attempting to
steal personal property during the day time, unless it was a home
invasion - cheaper to pay for insurance than the legal aftermath.

During hours of darkness in Texas is a different story. Although our
Castle Doctrine specifically does not include detached outbuildings,
those who value their lives do well to stay away from any Texas
residence's property at night.

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Leon

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 9:47 AM

On 11/17/2014 7:21 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 7:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> In any case, if I build another house in my lifetime, the outbuilding is
>> going up first. I swore to that after building my first home up in
>> Ohio... when I finished the outbuilding second. :-)
>
> Exactly what I did by not demo'ing the old single car utility
> room/garage, which is now my shop (once again), when I built the house
> we now live in.
>
> Having a shop onsite to work in when building the main structure is
> damned handy when you do some of the work yourself:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011?noredirect=1#5661590406311300114
>
>
Had Kim and I built ourselves we would have built a larger shop first
and lived in it until the house was finished... We actually considered
building a home inside a large steel building.

Ll

Leon

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 9:49 AM

On 11/16/2014 6:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>>> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>
>>>
>>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in
>>> life. :-)
>>
>> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>>
>
> And of course - you know how he knew when it was level - right?...
>
Mike how is the redo on your home coming along?

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 2:52 PM

On 11/16/2014 1:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>
> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small for a
> barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.

>
> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both sides)
> was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the building and
> it works very well. They're made from corrugated polycarbonate roof
> panels.

Nice size. I like the idea or allowing natural light in as much as
practical. If it is storage only, you may not want windows for
security, but if it becomes your shop, it would be nice to be able to
see out. Just as e have a window over the kitchen sink, I'd want one
over my workbench.

Good luck with it.

Ll

Leon

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 9:26 AM

On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>
> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small for a
> barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
>
> It's purpose for the time being is to store everything that is now
> packed like sardines in my garage, and then some. Hopefully this will
> allow me to have a shop and/or drum room in the garage. Future plan are
> to run electric out to it so it can become the shop/brewery/bat-cave.
> :-)
>
> The front looks a little goofy right now. Try to picture a flat,
> slanted overhang/awning coming down from about soffit-level to the
> horizontal trim board running above the doors. I'm also still undecided
> on whether to have a deck-way from the door thresholds to grade, or
> bring in gravel and fill it.
>
> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both sides)
> was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the building and
> it works very well. They're made from corrugated polycarbonate roof
> panels.
>
> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty much
> anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in life. :-)
>
>
Looks respectable. Very nice Mike!

Sk

Swingman

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 5:57 PM

On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)

>
> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty much
> anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in life. :-)

Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>

Very well done, Mike. You did good!


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c

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 12:32 AM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:03:40 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 11/16/14, 9:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:27:36 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>>>>> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both
>>>>> sides) was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the
>>>>> building and it works very well. They're made from corrugated
>>>>> polycarbonate roof panels.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the nice comments. For those talking about windows...
>>> Yes, I want to eventually add windows if this ends up being a shop. The
>>> back yard is beautiful with lots of bird and squirrel activity, so I'd
>>> love to have a view. I'd also like to get a cross breeze with the
>>> garage door.
>> For ventilation I'd hinge those celestory windows- - -
>>
>
>They aren't hinge-able. I was going to put casement windows up there,
>but this was much more economical for the intended purpose. I do have a
>full ridge vent and full soffit vents that actually create quite a good
>convection. Oh, and there's that big garage door, too. :-)
>
>Believe it or not, it stays relatively cool in there. I have 70'+ (?)
>poplar trees less than 20' to the south that keep it in the shade for
>most of the day in the hot months. I was very surprised how much lower
>the temp was in that area when I was building.
We'll see how much more we have to run the E/C now that I've cut down
the cherry tree that shaded the west side of the house. Hopefully not
too much as the maples are still along the street, not that far from
the house

Ll

Leon

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 4:53 PM

On 11/17/2014 3:37 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 11/16/2014 6:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>>>>> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>>>>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose
>>>>> in life. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And of course - you know how he knew when it was level - right?...
>>>
>> Mike how is the redo on your home coming along?
>
> It's long been done. Came out beautiful. Here's the link again. All of
> the pictures are in categories so it's easy to follow the progress through
> the job.
>
> http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/mike9369/library/Log%20Home%20Restoration%20Project?sort=3&page=1
>
Wow! Looks brand new!

c

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 10:54 PM

On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:27:36 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 11/16/14, 1:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 11/16/2014 1:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>>
>>> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small
>>> for a barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
>>
>>>
>>> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both
>>> sides) was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the
>>> building and it works very well. They're made from corrugated
>>> polycarbonate roof panels.
>>
>> Nice size. I like the idea or allowing natural light in as much as
>> practical. If it is storage only, you may not want windows for
>> security, but if it becomes your shop, it would be nice to be able to
>> see out. Just as e have a window over the kitchen sink, I'd want
>> one over my workbench.
>>
>> Good luck with it.
>>
>
>Thanks for the nice comments. For those talking about windows...
>Yes, I want to eventually add windows if this ends up being a shop. The
>back yard is beautiful with lots of bird and squirrel activity, so I'd
>love to have a view. I'd also like to get a cross breeze with the
>garage door.
For ventilation I'd hinge those celestory windows- - -

Sk

Swingman

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 7:21 AM

On 11/16/2014 7:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> In any case, if I build another house in my lifetime, the outbuilding is
> going up first. I swore to that after building my first home up in
> Ohio... when I finished the outbuilding second. :-)

Exactly what I did by not demo'ing the old single car utility
room/garage, which is now my shop (once again), when I built the house
we now live in.

Having a shop onsite to work in when building the main structure is
damned handy when you do some of the work yourself:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011?noredirect=1#5661590406311300114

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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 7:29 PM

Swingman wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>
>>
>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in
>> life. :-)
>
> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>

And of course - you know how he knew when it was level - right?...

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[email protected]

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 7:15 PM

On 11/16/14, 5:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>
>>
>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose
>> in life. :-)
>
> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>
> Very well done, Mike. You did good!
>

Thanks you, sir. There are certain things I can't do with music
playing. Any hammering being high on the list. It can dangerous trying
to keep time. :-)



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 7:20 PM

On 11/16/14, 6:19 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "-MIKE-" wrote:
>
>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>
>> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small
>> for a barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
> <snip> ----------------------------------------------- Looking good.
>
> My father built our home after WWII on a foundation of that
> approximate size.
>
> It was intended to be an oversized garage/shop when the house was
> built.
>
> Things changed and the house never got built, but that is life.
>
> Lew
>
>

A friend and mentor of mine, who passed away a couple years ago, built
his first house with a hammer and a chainsaw. IIRC, if it was bigger
than this, it wasn't by much. I helped him build on to it a couple
different times. That's when I discovered the freedom that comes from
post and beam construction.

In any case, if I build another house in my lifetime, the outbuilding is
going up first. I swore to that after building my first home up in
Ohio... when I finished the outbuilding second. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 7:20 PM

On 11/16/14, 6:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>
>>>
>>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows
>>> pretty much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual
>>> purpose in life. :-)
>>
>> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>>
>
> And of course - you know how he knew when it was level - right?...
>

I brought over a bass player to see when the drool was coming out of
both sides of his mouth. :-D


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 7:27 PM

On 11/16/14, 1:52 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 1:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>
>> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small
>> for a barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
>
>>
>> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both
>> sides) was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the
>> building and it works very well. They're made from corrugated
>> polycarbonate roof panels.
>
> Nice size. I like the idea or allowing natural light in as much as
> practical. If it is storage only, you may not want windows for
> security, but if it becomes your shop, it would be nice to be able to
> see out. Just as e have a window over the kitchen sink, I'd want
> one over my workbench.
>
> Good luck with it.
>

Thanks for the nice comments. For those talking about windows...
Yes, I want to eventually add windows if this ends up being a shop. The
back yard is beautiful with lots of bird and squirrel activity, so I'd
love to have a view. I'd also like to get a cross breeze with the
garage door.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 11:03 PM

On 11/16/14, 9:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:27:36 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>>>> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both
>>>> sides) was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the
>>>> building and it works very well. They're made from corrugated
>>>> polycarbonate roof panels.
>>
>> Thanks for the nice comments. For those talking about windows...
>> Yes, I want to eventually add windows if this ends up being a shop. The
>> back yard is beautiful with lots of bird and squirrel activity, so I'd
>> love to have a view. I'd also like to get a cross breeze with the
>> garage door.
> For ventilation I'd hinge those celestory windows- - -
>

They aren't hinge-able. I was going to put casement windows up there,
but this was much more economical for the intended purpose. I do have a
full ridge vent and full soffit vents that actually create quite a good
convection. Oh, and there's that big garage door, too. :-)

Believe it or not, it stays relatively cool in there. I have 70'+ (?)
poplar trees less than 20' to the south that keep it in the shade for
most of the day in the hot months. I was very surprised how much lower
the temp was in that area when I was building.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 12:08 AM

On 11/16/14, 11:32 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:03:40 -0600, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/16/14, 9:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:27:36 -0600, -MIKE-
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang
>>>>>> (both sides) was my idea for clerestory windows to allow
>>>>>> light into the building and it works very well. They're
>>>>>> made from corrugated polycarbonate roof panels.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the nice comments. For those talking about
>>>> windows... Yes, I want to eventually add windows if this ends
>>>> up being a shop. The back yard is beautiful with lots of bird
>>>> and squirrel activity, so I'd love to have a view. I'd also
>>>> like to get a cross breeze with the garage door.
>>> For ventilation I'd hinge those celestory windows- - -
>>>
>>
>> They aren't hinge-able. I was going to put casement windows up
>> there, but this was much more economical for the intended purpose.
>> I do have a full ridge vent and full soffit vents that actually
>> create quite a good convection. Oh, and there's that big garage
>> door, too. :-)
>>
>> Believe it or not, it stays relatively cool in there. I have 70'+
>> (?) poplar trees less than 20' to the south that keep it in the
>> shade for most of the day in the hot months. I was very surprised
>> how much lower the temp was in that area when I was building.
> We'll see how much more we have to run the E/C now that I've cut
> down the cherry tree that shaded the west side of the house.
> Hopefully not too much as the maples are still along the street, not
> that far from the house
>

It's amazing how much trees shade a home. It's also amazing how much
they do to block sound, but that's another topic. :-)

The local electric company came by about every other year to mark the
big silver maple in the front yard of the house me just moved from.
There was a line going through it from the transformer to the neighbors
house. I would sand the mark off the tree every time they did it. Once
when they ignored it, I stood out under the tree as they were trimming
and waved them off any time they tried to butcher it. I let them prune
it, but I wasn't about to let them cut a giant U into it like they did
all the way down the street.

I had my neighbors blessing. He was a good 'ol boy who liked the shade
as well. He said he'd suffer through a day or two without power to let
me keep that shade. Didn't hurt matters that I cleaned out his gutters
every year to keep his fat @SS from falling off his ladder. :-D


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-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 9:49 AM

On 11/17/14, 7:21 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 7:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> In any case, if I build another house in my lifetime, the outbuilding is
>> going up first. I swore to that after building my first home up in
>> Ohio... when I finished the outbuilding second. :-)
>
> Exactly what I did by not demo'ing the old single car utility
> room/garage, which is now my shop (once again), when I built the house
> we now live in.
>
> Having a shop onsite to work in when building the main structure is
> damned handy when you do some of the work yourself:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopRetrofit2011?noredirect=1#5661590406311300114
>

"Keep Out" AND "No Trespassing!"
It's a shame we need to post signs to tell people not to steal our $h!t.
I guess in TX that makes it even more legal to shoot the bast@rd, huh?
:-)


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-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 9:52 AM

On 11/17/14, 9:26 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>
>> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small
>> for a barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
>>
>> It's purpose for the time being is to store everything that is now
>> packed like sardines in my garage, and then some. Hopefully this
>> will allow me to have a shop and/or drum room in the garage.
>> Future plan are to run electric out to it so it can become the
>> shop/brewery/bat-cave. :-)
>>
>> The front looks a little goofy right now. Try to picture a flat,
>> slanted overhang/awning coming down from about soffit-level to the
>> horizontal trim board running above the doors. I'm also still
>> undecided on whether to have a deck-way from the door thresholds to
>> grade, or bring in gravel and fill it.
>>
>> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both
>> sides) was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the
>> building and it works very well. They're made from corrugated
>> polycarbonate roof panels.
>>
>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose
>> in life. :-)
>>
>>
> Looks respectable. Very nice Mike!

Thank you. I had grandiose plans at first, but when it came down to it,
money and time dictated a far simpler and modest design. :-)


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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 4:37 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 6:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>>>> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>>>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose
>>>> in life. :-)
>>>
>>> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>>>
>>
>> And of course - you know how he knew when it was level - right?...
>>
> Mike how is the redo on your home coming along?

It's long been done. Came out beautiful. Here's the link again. All of
the pictures are in categories so it's easy to follow the progress through
the job.

http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/mike9369/library/Log%20Home%20Restoration%20Project?sort=3&page=1

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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 5:20 PM

On 11/17/14, 3:37 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 11/16/2014 6:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2014 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>>>>> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty
>>>>> much anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose
>>>>> in life. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Built like a woodworker built it. Not bad for a drummer. ;0>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And of course - you know how he knew when it was level - right?...
>>>
>> Mike how is the redo on your home coming along?
>
> It's long been done. Came out beautiful. Here's the link again. All of
> the pictures are in categories so it's easy to follow the progress through
> the job.
>
> http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/mike9369/library/Log%20Home%20Restoration%20Project?sort=3&page=1
>

Well that sure is purty!


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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 8:31 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 11/17/2014 3:37 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Leon wrote:

>>>>
>>> Mike how is the redo on your home coming along?
>>
>> It's long been done. Came out beautiful. Here's the link again. All of
>> the pictures are in categories so it's easy to follow the
>> progress through the job.
>>
>> http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/mike9369/library/Log%20Home%20Restoration%20Project?sort=3&page=1
>>
> Wow! Looks brand new!

Isn't it amazing?! These guys did outstanding work. Removed rotted logs
and replaced them perfectly. Re-chinked the whole house and even came
inside and chinked the corners of every room that has log corners. We're
already noticing the difference in air infiltration now that it's getting
cold out. We still have not gotten used to the look - what a difference.
They even repainted all of the window trim and facia, the front porch, and
stained the deck with the same stain that's on the house. That was all
outside of the initial price, and they didn't charge us a nickle to do it.
We just had to have the paint on hand for them. In the end we saved
somewhere between 30-50% over competing bids in this area (all thinkgs
considered), and I believe we got the best crew around to do the work. Log
home work is usually priced at a premium and there's a lot of raping that
goes on.

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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 8:33 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/17/14, 3:37 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:

>>
>> It's long been done. Came out beautiful. Here's the link again. All of
>> the pictures are in categories so it's easy to follow the
>> progress through the job.
>>
>> http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/mike9369/library/Log%20Home%20Restoration%20Project?sort=3&page=1
>>
>
> Well that sure is purty!

Well thank you sir! Like I told Leon - we still have not gotten used to the
look. From weathered and tired looking to brand new looking.

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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

17/11/2014 9:17 PM

On 11/16/14, 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>

I added as bunch more pictures of the construction on progress if
anyone's interested.
http://goo.gl/rq5v0r


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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 7:33 AM

-MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/16/14, 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
>> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>
>
> I added as bunch more pictures of the construction on progress if
> anyone's interested.
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r

Man Mike - that's a lot of truss for your part of the world, isn't it? I'm
guessing at least 50lb of load psf?

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"Morgans"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 9:48 AM



"-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Thanks you, sir. There are certain things I can't do with music
playing. Any hammering being high on the list. It can dangerous trying
to keep time. :-)

**************
Any idea on material costs? I need me sumthin' like that.

Job well done.

Jim in NC


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-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 10:02 AM

On 11/18/14, 6:33 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 11/16/14, 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>>
>>
>> I added as bunch more pictures of the construction on progress if
>> anyone's interested. http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>
> Man Mike - that's a lot of truss for your part of the world, isn't
> it? I'm guessing at least 50lb of load psf?
>

Those were the specs the truss company's engineers spit out, but they
gave me different options. I could've spec'd 4' spacing or even just 8'
to coincide with the posts. But then the trusses would've been more
massive and I would've needed purlins to support the roof. I wanted to
spec it out for residential use, not just barn use, in case someone in
the future wanted to inhabit it.

I've used 24" spaced 2x4 trusses on so many projects, I never even
thought to look into other options. It's no secret to those who know me
that I error on the side of stronger for anything I engineer. :-)

Keep in mind, as well, I did this entire project with my own two hands.
I think I had my wife out there a couple times, holding a truss in
place while I tacked it. I don't know how much these weighed, but I
know I could carry one without much effort. I can't imagine I would've
been able to swing up a truss spec'd for 8' spacing.


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-MIKE-

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 10:16 AM

On 11/18/14, 8:48 AM, Morgans wrote:
>
>
> "-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Thanks you, sir. There are certain things I can't do with music
> playing. Any hammering being high on the list. It can dangerous
> trying to keep time. :-)
>
> ************** Any idea on material costs? I need me sumthin' like
> that.
>
> Job well done.
>
> Jim in NC
>

I'd have to check with my CFO for exact numbers, but last time I checked
into it, we were up around seven grand. I had eight to play with, so
that's where my mind was at, budget-wise. All the deck joists are
pressure treated. I was going to insulate the floor, but decided to do
it later if I decide to heat/cool the space.

It's pretty hilarious what those "drop-off" shed companies charge for
the sheds I see in all the back yards around here. I think $7k would've
gotten me a 12x16x7 on skids.

Of course, if I were building this for someone else, I think I'd have to
charge at least $24k to make a decent wage and hire help. I don't know,
probably more around 30, who knows?


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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 1:50 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/18/14, 6:33 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 11/16/14, 12:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> What I did on my summer vacation. :-) http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>>>> (don't worry, it's safe!)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I added as bunch more pictures of the construction on progress if
>>> anyone's interested. http://goo.gl/rq5v0r
>>
>> Man Mike - that's a lot of truss for your part of the world, isn't
>> it? I'm guessing at least 50lb of load psf?
>>
>
> Those were the specs the truss company's engineers spit out, but they
> gave me different options. I could've spec'd 4' spacing or even just
> 8' to coincide with the posts. But then the trusses would've been
> more massive and I would've needed purlins to support the roof. I
> wanted to spec it out for residential use, not just barn use, in case
> someone in the future wanted to inhabit it.
>
> I've used 24" spaced 2x4 trusses on so many projects, I never even
> thought to look into other options. It's no secret to those who know
> me that I error on the side of stronger for anything I engineer. :-)
>
> Keep in mind, as well, I did this entire project with my own two
> hands. I think I had my wife out there a couple times, holding a
> truss in place while I tacked it. I don't know how much these
> weighed, but I know I could carry one without much effort. I can't
> imagine I would've been able to swing up a truss spec'd for 8'
> spacing.

Cool! I was just noticing that the structure of the truss looked an awful
lot like what is spec'd here for 50# snow load. I do agree with your
approach though - overbuilding is always good.

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"Mike Marlow"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 1:52 PM

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/17/2014 8:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>>
>> Well thank you sir! Like I told Leon - we still have not gotten
>> used to the look. From weathered and tired looking to brand new
>> looking.
>
> I get that every time I look in the mirror. Oh, wait, maybe i got
> that backwards.

No - that's exactly how it works Ed... right after the Just For Men...

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Ed Pawlowski

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

18/11/2014 1:09 PM

On 11/17/2014 8:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:

>
> Well thank you sir! Like I told Leon - we still have not gotten used to the
> look. From weathered and tired looking to brand new looking.
>

I get that every time I look in the mirror. Oh, wait, maybe i got that
backwards.

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to -MIKE- on 16/11/2014 12:51 PM

16/11/2014 2:09 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
> What I did on my summer vacation. :-)
> http://goo.gl/rq5v0r (don't worry, it's safe!)
>
> I call it the Sharn because it's too big for a shed and too small for a
> barn. 20'x24' with 10' walls.
>
> It's purpose for the time being is to store everything that is now
> packed like sardines in my garage, and then some. Hopefully this will
> allow me to have a shop and/or drum room in the garage. Future plan are
> to run electric out to it so it can become the shop/brewery/bat-cave.
> :-)
>
> The front looks a little goofy right now. Try to picture a flat,
> slanted overhang/awning coming down from about soffit-level to the
> horizontal trim board running above the doors. I'm also still undecided
> on whether to have a deck-way from the door thresholds to grade, or
> bring in gravel and fill it.
>
> That transparent section running under the soffit overhang (both sides)
> was my idea for clerestory windows to allow light into the building and
> it works very well. They're made from corrugated polycarbonate roof
> panels.
>
> It's post and beam construction so I can add future windows pretty much
> anywhere I decide to whenever I determine its actual purpose in life. :-)
>
>
That looks great!

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