JD

John Doe

02/02/2011 2:47 AM

Right angle drives, for drilling?

Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support
an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part
number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other
right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?

Thanks.


This topic has 13 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 12:41 AM


"Upscale" wrote:

> You could just buy a right handed complete drill unit. I have a
> DeWalt right angle cordless drill and it works fine for everything
> I've asked of it so far.
> http://www.amazon.com/Bare-Tool-18-Volt-Cordless-Right-Angle-Battery/dp/B000BMGN12

-------------------------------------
And your wrists and forearms will thank you when you start using
holesaws 2" and larger.

Lew

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 9:16 AM

"Upscale" <upscale teksavvy.com> wrote:

> "John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote

>> right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
>> Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?
>
> You could just buy a right handed complete drill unit. I have a
> DeWalt right angle cordless drill and it works fine for
> everything I've asked of it so far.

Distinct possibility here.

FWIW.

I am going to drive a unicycle wheel, as a push stick for in-line
skating. A DeWalt compact drill (18v or less) without the chuck
might be light enough and short enough to stick straight out from
the axle, attached maybe with aluminum rods. The battery will go
on the other side of the wheel. The angle drill does not have
clutch settings that would be very useful for reducing strain on
the hardware and/or preventing abrupt starts. Also, the angle
drill is less powerful. Then again, I am not sure exactly how much
power my application will require. An angle drill definitely would
help simplify the construction. If the DeWalt angle drill had a
clutch and were more powerful, buying and trying it would be a
no-brainer here.

There is a lightly used DeWalt angle drill, with an XRP battery,
on eBay for $100 (US). I already have a 14.4 V compact, love it.
Recently ordered an 18 V compact (Amazon took my money four days
ago, but has not shipped the product). That 18 V battery (from
eBay) might be useful even if the angle drill does not satisfy.

Even though an angle drive attachment would require more work,
some of them reduce the speed. That is potentially useful here.

Decisions decisions.

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 3:42 PM

basilisk <basilisk invalid.org> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:
>> "Upscale" <upscale teksavvy.com> wrote:
>>> "John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>>> right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
>>>> Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?
>>>
>>> You could just buy a right handed complete drill unit. I have
>>> a DeWalt right angle cordless drill and it works fine for
>>> everything I've asked of it so far.
>>
>> Distinct possibility here.
>>
>> FWIW.
>>
>> I am going to drive a unicycle wheel, as a push stick for
>> in-line skating.
>
> Get one of the bigger right angle drive weed eaters and mount
> your wheel on it, the slight angle on the head will allow you to
> hold it to one side and keep mthe driving wheel behind your
> center of gravity.

Any examples like that? YouTube?

Mine must be electric, it cannot be a noisy gasoline motor.
Besides being quiet, being electric probably gives me more rights
for using it on the sidewalk (here in the USA). It has to be
variable speed. A weed eater probably turns too fast and would
require gearing. The minimum wheel size is about 80 mm in order to
work on anything except very smooth terrain.
--


















>
> Don't forget to get someone to hold your beer and yell "Hey!, watch this"
>
> basilisk
>

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 6:35 PM

Gerald Ross <gwr40 comsouth.net> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:
>> basilisk<basilisk invalid.org> wrote:
>>> John Doe wrote:

>>>> I am going to drive a unicycle wheel, as a push stick for
>>>> in-line skating.
>>>
>>> Get one of the bigger right angle drive weed eaters and mount
>>> your wheel on it, the slight angle on the head will allow you
>>> to hold it to one side and keep mthe driving wheel behind
>>> your center of gravity.
>>
>> Any examples like that? YouTube?
>>
>> Mine must be electric, it cannot be a noisy gasoline motor.
>> Besides being quiet, being electric probably gives me more
>> rights for using it on the sidewalk (here in the USA). It has
>> to be variable speed. A weed eater probably turns too fast and
>> would require gearing. The minimum wheel size is about 80 mm in
>> order to work on anything except very smooth terrain.
>
> I used to have a Ryobi rechargeable weed whip. It would work
> with a small wheel.

What is the typical RPM of a cordless trimmer (weed eater, grass
trimmer)?

> How slow do you want to go?

Slow enough to be pushed an incline on inline skates. That is the
main purpose for a Motail (a motorized tail). Preferably fast
enough to go at least 10 or 20 mph on level terrain. Also, it
really needs to be variable speed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
Weed eaters work by slapping the grass very fast, they probably
have little power and no speed variation.

Besides going up inclines without pushing (and the thrill of the
thing), a variable speed Motail might be very useful for street
skating because it allows good speed control for getting from one
location to another swiftly and deliberately with less concern
from pushing/stroking on potentially rough underlying terrain.

I like the idea of using an electric weed eater, but I will need
to find proper gearing for it. And then there is the speed control
issue.

Mt

"Max"

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 11:39 AM

"willshak" <[email protected]> wrote
> Gerald Ross wrote the following:
> Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?
>
> Almost everything worn in which the legs are totally, or partially,
> involved is pluralized.
> Besides panties, there are shorts, briefs, trunks, pants, jeans,
> dungarees, overalls, coveralls, etc.
>
> --
>
> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY

Thank you for that. I'm not sure I could have gone on through life without
that tidbit of profundity.

Max


Mt

"Max"

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 1:20 PM

"willshak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Max wrote the following:
>> "willshak" <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Gerald Ross wrote the following:
>>> Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?
>>>
>>> Almost everything worn in which the legs are totally, or partially,
>>> involved is pluralized.
>>> Besides panties, there are shorts, briefs, trunks, pants, jeans,
>>> dungarees, overalls, coveralls, etc.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> In Hamptonburgh, NY
>>
>> Thank you for that. I'm not sure I could have gone on through life
>> without that tidbit of profundity.
>>
>> Max
>
> You're welcome. I always get some satisfaction when I can help someone
> through life.
> I forgot trousers too. :-)
>
> --
>
> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY

LOL. Gad! My education was incomplete.

Max
In El Paso, TX where the temperature is currently 14° F. Brrrrrr.

JD

John Doe

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 11:41 PM

Also...
For a bike pusher or in-line skating Motail, you want the motor and
battery weight to be on the wheel. If you use a very small wheel, your
hardware is going to take a beating. You can trick the pusher into
supporting its own weight if the motor and battery is placed against
the back of your upper leg, when it pushes you and pushes its wheel
into the ground behind you.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 11:12 AM

John Doe wrote:
> basilisk<basilisk invalid.org> wrote:
>
>> John Doe wrote:
>>> "Upscale"<upscale teksavvy.com> wrote:
>>>> "John Doe"<[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>>>> right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
>>>>> Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?
>>>>
>>>> You could just buy a right handed complete drill unit. I have
>>>> a DeWalt right angle cordless drill and it works fine for
>>>> everything I've asked of it so far.
>>>
>>> Distinct possibility here.
>>>
>>> FWIW.
>>>
>>> I am going to drive a unicycle wheel, as a push stick for
>>> in-line skating.
>>
>> Get one of the bigger right angle drive weed eaters and mount
>> your wheel on it, the slight angle on the head will allow you to
>> hold it to one side and keep mthe driving wheel behind your
>> center of gravity.
>
> Any examples like that? YouTube?
>
> Mine must be electric, it cannot be a noisy gasoline motor.
> Besides being quiet, being electric probably gives me more rights
> for using it on the sidewalk (here in the USA). It has to be
> variable speed. A weed eater probably turns too fast and would
> require gearing. The minimum wheel size is about 80 mm in order to
> work on anything except very smooth terrain.

I used to have a Ryobi rechargeable weed whip. It would work with a
small wheel. How slow do you want to go?

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?




bb

basilisk

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 6:04 AM

On 02 Feb 2011 09:16:46 GMT, John Doe wrote:

> "Upscale" <upscale teksavvy.com> wrote:
>
>> "John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>> right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
>>> Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?
>>
>> You could just buy a right handed complete drill unit. I have a
>> DeWalt right angle cordless drill and it works fine for
>> everything I've asked of it so far.
>
> Distinct possibility here.
>
> FWIW.
>
> I am going to drive a unicycle wheel, as a push stick for in-line
> skating.

Get one of the bigger right angle drive weed eaters and mount your wheel
on it, the slight angle on the head will allow you to hold it to
one side and keep mthe driving wheel behind your center of gravity.

Don't forget to get someone to hold your beer and yell "Hey!, watch this"

basilisk

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

01/02/2011 10:25 PM


"John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support
> an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part
> number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other
> right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
> Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?
>
> Thanks.

Depends on what you run into. If you're doing light stuff, a light one is
good. If you're hogging holes for romex or conduit, you want something more
substantial. Almost every application of a right angle drill or adapter was
a last resort solution, and I could not get it very accurate. But for
hogging holes, they're okay. Just watch your knuckles.

Steve

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"Upscale"

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 2:41 AM


"John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a
> Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill?

You could just buy a right handed complete drill unit. I have a DeWalt right
angle cordless drill and it works fine for everything I've asked of it so
far.
http://www.amazon.com/Bare-Tool-18-Volt-Cordless-Right-Angle-Battery/dp/B000BMGN12

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willshak

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 2:24 PM

Max wrote the following:
> "willshak" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Gerald Ross wrote the following:
>> Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?
>>
>> Almost everything worn in which the legs are totally, or partially,
>> involved is pluralized.
>> Besides panties, there are shorts, briefs, trunks, pants, jeans,
>> dungarees, overalls, coveralls, etc.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bill
>> In Hamptonburgh, NY
>
> Thank you for that. I'm not sure I could have gone on through life
> without that tidbit of profundity.
>
> Max

You're welcome. I always get some satisfaction when I can help someone
through life.
I forgot trousers too. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

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willshak

in reply to John Doe on 02/02/2011 2:47 AM

02/02/2011 11:57 AM

Gerald Ross wrote the following:

<snip>

Re. your sig question.

Why is "bra" singular and "panties" plural?

Almost everything worn in which the legs are totally, or partially,
involved is pluralized.
Besides panties, there are shorts, briefs, trunks, pants, jeans,
dungarees, overalls, coveralls, etc.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @


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