Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
drops of oil before each use.
I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
CW wrote:
> For those that really don't want to mess with it, there are inline
> oilers available. One shop that I worked at had two air hookups at
> every workbench. One was strait from the air dryer and ran at 150
> PSI. That was for blow guns. The other was 90 PSI with an inline
> oiler for air tools. The the boss would go around every Monday and
> fill the oilers.
That can work really well for some types of shops, but for most small
operations and hobby guys it's not so do-able. If your air hoses have to
pull double duty and supply a paint gun or a blow gun, as well as other air
tools, then in-line oilers are not a good solution. Think contaminated
hoses.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
-MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> I'd go back to adding oil to the tools that need it, and keeping
>> your air hoses clear of oil. The benefit for all but the fewest of
>> us, in having an in-line oiler is nill. The advantage of having
>> hoses that you don't have to worry about is huge.
>>
>
> Yeah, that's what I'll be doing. Nice experiment, anyway.
>
>
>> As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the
>> time. Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you
>> can hear the ocean?...
>>
>
> Yes, and if you lick an outlet it tastes like cotton candy. :-)
But... does your tongue stick to it like a steel pipe in the winter time?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 29 Feb 2012 18:27:10 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
>> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
>> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
>> drops of oil before each use.
>>
>> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
>> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
>> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>>
>> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
>> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
>> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
>
>The biggest pain is just keeping track of that little bottle of oil.
>Mine lives on a corner of the bench, generally protected by the miter saw
>fence.
I have a couple oil squirt guns full of Marvel Mystery Oil, the oil I
use in my pneumatic equipment. One is usually found in the cabinet
with the tools, the other on left rear side of the vise workbench. If
I can't find one, I can usually find the other. Then, when I find the
missing can, I put it back where it belongs.
I used to keep one in my toolbox with the Loctite, but both leaked and
really messed up a drawer.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
On Feb 29, 2:39=A0am, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
> drops of oil before each use.
>
> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>
> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
I have dropped two drops of oil down the connector of all airtools I
owned for 30+ years. Every time I connect.. two drops of oil. I used
to use an air drill to drill pilot holes during cabinet assembly.
(advantage was that the drill stops instantly when releasing the
trigger. Now the impact drivers do that too.) I had only one airtool
ever rebuilt, that was an Senco upholstery stapler; it stapled a LOT
of speaker grills.
I don't know much about modern air tools that claim not to need oil...
weird to me.
Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
> drops of oil before each use.
>
> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>
> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
The biggest pain is just keeping track of that little bottle of oil.
Mine lives on a corner of the bench, generally protected by the miter saw
fence.
Putting a drop of oil in before use is no trouble at all. It's just part
of the process for using the tool: Oil, connect, adjust pressure, use.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 29 Feb 2012 18:27:10 GMT, Puckdropper
>>Putting a drop of oil in before use is no trouble at all. It's just
>>part of the process for using the tool: Oil, connect, adjust pressure,
>>use.
>
> Do you oil it *every* time before use or just when you think of it?
>
No, not every time. The instructions said oil daily, but I believe they
were referring to a full day of work and not shooting a dozen nails.
I'll sometimes use it without oiling before hand if I had just used it
yesterday.
Do understand, though, that these are not expensive guns I'm using.
Sometimes the cheaper items will take more abuse than the more expensive
ones. Without any way to know if the gun needs oil or not, I'm really
just guessing.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 01 Mar 2012 19:52:28 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the
>>> time. Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you
>>> can hear the ocean?...
>>>
>>
>> Gass will design and patent a gadget to protect you ...
>
> "Our new BLOWstop(tm) will Save the Children! It instantly converts
> all air blow gun air down to 0.5psig @ 0.005cfm, making air safe for
> everyone again! Buy now and get a pre-90-patent discount, bringing
> the price down to only $4,723.16, plus $86 shipping and handling fees.
> Prices per item/we do not combine shipping."
And - it works by destroying your existing air hose in the event of a near
accident... Replacement hoses available at only $1,399.99 for 25' length.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 2/29/2012 1:39 AM, Dave wrote:
>
> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
> drops of oil before each use.
>
> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>
> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
The task of adding oil is simple. How much is not so simple.
I have a Grex pinner which I might shoor 20 times or 200 times I add a
couple of drops before each use. I had an o-ring fail premature IMHO.
Four or so years. I added 2 drops of oil before each use and after a
couple hundred nails when using a lot.
The Grex rep says that you can both under oil and over oil. I probably
over oiled.
That said I replaced the o-ring in 10 minutes and I was good to go.
As always oilless is the least trouble.
FWIW I have owned a Senco finish nailer, oilless, for about 23 years
now. It had to be overhauled at about the 12 year mark but has worked
flawlessly with the exception of that one time.
Dave wrote:
> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
> drops of oil before each use.
>
> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>
> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
None at all. A drop or two down the air connector and off you go. For very
occassional use, you could easily get away with oiling it far less than
everyday. My air nailer sees infrequent use also, so I oil it when I see it
needs it. It will start to leave a nail a little proud when it needs
oiling. So - I oil it.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:33:21 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Feb 29, 2:39 am, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
>> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
>> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
>> drops of oil before each use.
>>
>> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
>> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
>> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>>
>> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
>> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
>> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
>
>I have dropped two drops of oil down the connector of all airtools I
>owned for 30+ years. Every time I connect.. two drops of oil. I used
>to use an air drill to drill pilot holes during cabinet assembly.
>(advantage was that the drill stops instantly when releasing the
>trigger. Now the impact drivers do that too.) I had only one airtool
>ever rebuilt, that was an Senco upholstery stapler; it stapled a LOT
>of speaker grills.
I used lots of oil when I had air tools as a mechanic. Now, I put a
couple drops in the end of the tool before I use it for the first time
that year, and maybe once more if I use it a lot that year.
My heavy-duty CP air chisel gets oil before each and every use,
though.
>I don't know much about modern air tools that claim not to need oil...
>weird to me.
PTFE is your friend.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
On 3/1/2012 12:24 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>>
>> I installed an oil reservoir on my tank because the instructions on
>> the Hitachi framing nailer I recently bought said to do it. I'm
>> guessing every nailer instruction say this, but I've never read them.
>> :-)
>
> Good Man!
>
> As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the time.
> Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you can hear the
> ocean?...
No, you hear the hurricane! ;~) And then nothing! ;~(
"-MIKE-" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On 3/1/12 5:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> CW wrote:
>
>> For those that really don't want to mess with it, there are inline
>> oilers available. One shop that I worked at had two air hookups at
>> every workbench. One was strait from the air dryer and ran at 150
>> PSI. That was for blow guns. The other was 90 PSI with an inline
>> oiler for air tools. The the boss would go around every Monday and
>> fill the oilers.
>
> That can work really well for some types of shops, but for most small
> operations and hobby guys it's not so do-able. If your air hoses have to
> pull double duty and supply a paint gun or a blow gun, as well as other
> air
> tools, then in-line oilers are not a good solution. Think contaminated
> hoses.
>
I installed an oil reservoir on my tank because the instructions on the
Hitachi framing nailer I recently bought said to do it. I'm guessing
every nailer instruction say this, but I've never read them. :-)
Now I'm in that boat of having oil in the hose, and I can't blow dust
off my face with the compressor any more. So, I'm either going to instal
a Y splitter before the oiler, or just go back to putting a few drops of
oil in the gun every time I use it.... which is what I've always done.
==================================================================
That was our system. the air would come out of the compressor, through the
drier then run to a connector on the back of the table. Front of table had
one connector for full pressure air, the other had a regulator and oiler.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the
> time. Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you
> can hear the ocean?...
>
Gass will design and patent a gadget to protect you ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
-MIKE- wrote:
>
> I installed an oil reservoir on my tank because the instructions on
> the Hitachi framing nailer I recently bought said to do it. I'm
> guessing every nailer instruction say this, but I've never read them.
> :-)
Good Man!
>
> Now I'm in that boat of having oil in the hose, and I can't blow dust
> off my face with the compressor any more. So, I'm either going to
> instal a Y splitter before the oiler, or just go back to putting a
> few drops of oil in the gun every time I use it.... which is what
> I've always done.
I'd go back to adding oil to the tools that need it, and keeping your air
hoses clear of oil. The benefit for all but the fewest of us, in having an
in-line oiler is nill. The advantage of having hoses that you don't have to
worry about is huge.
As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the time.
Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you can hear the
ocean?...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 01 Mar 2012 19:52:28 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the
>> time. Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you
>> can hear the ocean?...
>>
>
>Gass will design and patent a gadget to protect you ...
"Our new BLOWstop(tm) will Save the Children! It instantly converts
all air blow gun air down to 0.5psig @ 0.005cfm, making air safe for
everyone again! Buy now and get a pre-90-patent discount, bringing
the price down to only $4,723.16, plus $86 shipping and handling fees.
Prices per item/we do not combine shipping."
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 29 Feb 2012 18:27:10 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> Hi. I'm considering buying a Bosch FNA-250-15 Angled Finish Nailer.
>> It's light at 4 pounds and has good reviews, but I have one qualm. And
>> that qualm is that it has an oil-type air motor that requires a few
>> drops of oil before each use.
>>
>> I've never owned a nail gun that has an oil type motor. My woodworking
>> is just as a hobbyist, so it's not going to get in the way like it
>> might with somebody using one frequently on a job site.
>>
>> Supposedly, if this oiling is done properly, it's not going to mar
>> your wood. So my question is, how much of a PITA is it to have to put
>> in a few drops of oil before every use? Thanks.
>
>The biggest pain is just keeping track of that little bottle of oil.
>Mine lives on a corner of the bench, generally protected by the miter saw
>fence.
I have a couple oil squirt guns full of Marvel Mystery Oil, the oil I
use in my pneumatic equipment. One is usually found in the cabinet
with the tools, the other on left rear side of the vise workbench. If
I can't find one, I can usually find the other. Then, when I find the
missing can, I put it back where it belongs.
I used to keep one in my toolbox with the Loctite, but both leaked and
really messed up a drawer.
===============================================================
For those that really don't want to mess with it, there are inline oilers
available. One shop that I worked at had two air hookups at every workbench.
One was strait from the air dryer and ran at 150 PSI. That was for blow
guns. The other was 90 PSI with an inline oiler for air tools. The the boss
would go around every Monday and fill the oilers.
On 3/1/12 5:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> CW wrote:
>
>> For those that really don't want to mess with it, there are inline
>> oilers available. One shop that I worked at had two air hookups at
>> every workbench. One was strait from the air dryer and ran at 150
>> PSI. That was for blow guns. The other was 90 PSI with an inline
>> oiler for air tools. The the boss would go around every Monday and
>> fill the oilers.
>
> That can work really well for some types of shops, but for most small
> operations and hobby guys it's not so do-able. If your air hoses have to
> pull double duty and supply a paint gun or a blow gun, as well as other air
> tools, then in-line oilers are not a good solution. Think contaminated
> hoses.
>
I installed an oil reservoir on my tank because the instructions on the
Hitachi framing nailer I recently bought said to do it. I'm guessing
every nailer instruction say this, but I've never read them. :-)
Now I'm in that boat of having oil in the hose, and I can't blow dust
off my face with the compressor any more. So, I'm either going to instal
a Y splitter before the oiler, or just go back to putting a few drops of
oil in the gun every time I use it.... which is what I've always done.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On 3/1/12 12:24 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> I'd go back to adding oil to the tools that need it, and keeping your air
> hoses clear of oil. The benefit for all but the fewest of us, in having an
> in-line oiler is nill. The advantage of having hoses that you don't have to
> worry about is huge.
>
Yeah, that's what I'll be doing. Nice experiment, anyway.
> As for blowing your face off with compressed air - I do it all the time.
> Did you know that if you point the blow gun into your ear, you can hear the
> ocean?...
>
Yes, and if you lick an outlet it tastes like cotton candy. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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